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hmmm see i only take methatrexate besides all the other meds no pain meds.

I will go check and see what it has in it. Its just weird cause this just

happened to me.. Never before.

jolene

In a message dated 4/14/2008 11:07:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

stephieann2@... writes:

Hi Jolene!

I'm glad I did post on this now! I was in so much pain from the flare later

on Saturday that I completely forgot about my face feeling like it was on

fire earlier in the day. I never even thought about it until a couple of hours

ago when I was putting more Eucerin calming cream on my face! I though " oh

maybe its not my ultram after all " . I hadn't mentioned it to my doctor as I

forgot about it completely. I did tell him I hadn't used any new products which

is true since I bought this a few weeks ago. When it was applied, it was only

in patches on the face. When I put it on Saturday I used it all over the

face. Then, on my google search it said that cosmetic allergic reactions can

cause simple itching, or severe reactions needing medical attention (like mine

did) and that itching can occur all over the body (which mine did). Does yours

happen to have an ingredient called BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE in it? I read that

that seems to be a huge culprit in burning/itching. I

thought since we have autoimmune issues it would be a good thing to look at!

_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) wrote: Funny you mentioned

this.. I was using my regualr brand which is mary kay.

And i broke out with this burn like rash on my face. All of a sudden this

has never happened ever. I am on methotrexate. Any one else?

Jolene

In a message dated 4/14/2008 9:55:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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I was wondering if anyone knows if cosmetics made from pure minerals can

interact with any medications? I purchased a new Mirabella Mineral Makeup

from a

day spa a few weeks ago. I've not used it much yet. I remember I wore it

Saturday when I went in for an appointment. When I came home a couple of

hours

later, my face was stinging and I remember I wiped the powder off. It was

later that day when my pain flare started and I had to call the emergency

rheumatologist on call and he then advised me to take my Ultram ER. I'm

wondering

now if perhaps it wasn't the cosmetic that set this whole three day reaction

off! Itching on the rest of my body has gone away, but 2 people mentioned

that

my face is a little puffy in areas. The skin is tight and dry and quite pink

though not itching just uncomfortable. I've never been allergic to a

cosmetic

before, and I've used mineral based products but usually the neutrogena.

Perhaps this was my culprit:) Although I'm still leery of

taking any medication in my cabinet at the moment.

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I was wondering if anyone knows if cosmetics made from pure minerals can

interact with any medications? I purchased a new Mirabella Mineral Makeup from a

day spa a few weeks ago. I've not used it much yet. I remember I wore it

Saturday when I went in for an appointment. When I came home a couple of hours

later, my face was stinging and I remember I wiped the powder off. It was later

that day when my pain flare started and I had to call the emergency

rheumatologist on call and he then advised me to take my Ultram ER. I'm

wondering now if perhaps it wasn't the cosmetic that set this whole three day

reaction off! Itching on the rest of my body has gone away, but 2 people

mentioned that my face is a little puffy in areas. The skin is tight and dry

and quite pink though not itching just uncomfortable. I've never been allergic

to a cosmetic before, and I've used mineral based products but usually the

neutrogena. Perhaps this was my culprit:) Although I'm still leery of

taking any medication in my cabinet at the moment.

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Hi Jolene!

I'm glad I did post on this now! I was in so much pain from the flare later on

Saturday that I completely forgot about my face feeling like it was on fire

earlier in the day. I never even thought about it until a couple of hours ago

when I was putting more Eucerin calming cream on my face! I though " oh maybe its

not my ultram after all " . I hadn't mentioned it to my doctor as I forgot about

it completely. I did tell him I hadn't used any new products which is true

since I bought this a few weeks ago. When it was applied, it was only in

patches on the face. When I put it on Saturday I used it all over the face.

Then, on my google search it said that cosmetic allergic reactions can cause

simple itching, or severe reactions needing medical attention (like mine did)

and that itching can occur all over the body (which mine did). Does yours

happen to have an ingredient called BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE in it? I read that that

seems to be a huge culprit in burning/itching. I

thought since we have autoimmune issues it would be a good thing to look at!

Jolenefive@... wrote: Funny you mentioned this..

I was using my regualr brand which is mary kay.

And i broke out with this burn like rash on my face. All of a sudden this

has never happened ever. I am on methotrexate. Any one else?

Jolene

In a message dated 4/14/2008 9:55:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

stephieann2@... writes:

I was wondering if anyone knows if cosmetics made from pure minerals can

interact with any medications? I purchased a new Mirabella Mineral Makeup from

a

day spa a few weeks ago. I've not used it much yet. I remember I wore it

Saturday when I went in for an appointment. When I came home a couple of hours

later, my face was stinging and I remember I wiped the powder off. It was

later that day when my pain flare started and I had to call the emergency

rheumatologist on call and he then advised me to take my Ultram ER. I'm

wondering

now if perhaps it wasn't the cosmetic that set this whole three day reaction

off! Itching on the rest of my body has gone away, but 2 people mentioned that

my face is a little puffy in areas. The skin is tight and dry and quite pink

though not itching just uncomfortable. I've never been allergic to a cosmetic

before, and I've used mineral based products but usually the neutrogena.

Perhaps this was my culprit:) Although I'm still leery of

taking any medication in my cabinet at the moment.

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It is really weird! It didn't burn me the first time it was applied at the

salon. That's why I was thinking perhaps something in it reacts with the

DMARD's or something. I'm still red and itchy on the face and neck this

morning. I keep taking the antihistamines and putting on the eucerin calming

cream. My doctor had advised it will take a few days for the reaction to calm

down. Luckily, its not as intense as it was and its not my whole body anymore.

It's just rather uncomfortable. And its making the upper respiratory infection

I have worse

Jolenefive@... wrote: hmmm see i only take

methatrexate besides all the other meds no pain meds.

I will go check and see what it has in it. Its just weird cause this just

happened to me.. Never before.

jolene

In a message dated 4/14/2008 11:07:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

stephieann2@... writes:

Hi Jolene!

I'm glad I did post on this now! I was in so much pain from the flare later

on Saturday that I completely forgot about my face feeling like it was on

fire earlier in the day. I never even thought about it until a couple of hours

ago when I was putting more Eucerin calming cream on my face! I though " oh

maybe its not my ultram after all " . I hadn't mentioned it to my doctor as I

forgot about it completely. I did tell him I hadn't used any new products

which

is true since I bought this a few weeks ago. When it was applied, it was only

in patches on the face. When I put it on Saturday I used it all over the

face. Then, on my google search it said that cosmetic allergic reactions can

cause simple itching, or severe reactions needing medical attention (like mine

did) and that itching can occur all over the body (which mine did). Does yours

happen to have an ingredient called BISMUTH OXYCHLORIDE in it? I read that

that seems to be a huge culprit in burning/itching. I

thought since we have autoimmune issues it would be a good thing to look at!

_Jolenefive@..._ (mailto:Jolenefive@...) wrote: Funny you mentioned

this.. I was using my regualr brand which is mary kay.

And i broke out with this burn like rash on my face. All of a sudden this

has never happened ever. I am on methotrexate. Any one else?

Jolene

In a message dated 4/14/2008 9:55:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

_stephieann2@stephiean_ (mailto:stephieann2@...) writes:

I was wondering if anyone knows if cosmetics made from pure minerals can

interact with any medications? I purchased a new Mirabella Mineral Makeup

from a

day spa a few weeks ago. I've not used it much yet. I remember I wore it

Saturday when I went in for an appointment. When I came home a couple of

hours

later, my face was stinging and I remember I wiped the powder off. It was

later that day when my pain flare started and I had to call the emergency

rheumatologist on call and he then advised me to take my Ultram ER. I'm

wondering

now if perhaps it wasn't the cosmetic that set this whole three day reaction

off! Itching on the rest of my body has gone away, but 2 people mentioned

that

my face is a little puffy in areas. The skin is tight and dry and quite pink

though not itching just uncomfortable. I've never been allergic to a

cosmetic

before, and I've used mineral based products but usually the neutrogena.

Perhaps this was my culprit:) Although I'm still leery of

taking any medication in my cabinet at the moment.

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I just read in Nourishing Traditions that eating too many whole grains

depletes us of our minerals.

I eat mostly whole oatmeal and a rice/bean/lentil mix. My protein is

mostly 3 egg yolks a day with a piece of raw liver once a week.

NOW what am I supposed to do? Used to make salads every day and can't

now and used to steam other veggies but now know you must boil a lot

which lets me out there too because of several reasons.

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I'm pretty sure that means whole grains without their anti-nutrients

removed...not whole grains in general. Double check where you read

that from. Modern processed whole grain foods definitely can bind to

many minerals in our digestive track and prevent us from absorbing

them, While properly prepared whole are grains are a rich source of

minerals and vitamins.

Weston A. Price was all for lentils and whole grains when they are

prepared properly...and eaten with fat soluble activator vitamins.

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> I just read in Nourishing Traditions that eating too many whole grains

> depletes us of our minerals.

>

> I eat mostly whole oatmeal and a rice/bean/lentil mix. My protein is

> mostly 3 egg yolks a day with a piece of raw liver once a week.

>

> NOW what am I supposed to do? Used to make salads every day and can't

> now and used to steam other veggies but now know you must boil a lot

> which lets me out there too because of several reasons.

>

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Thank goodness. That must have been what it meant.

On May 19, 2008, at 6:09 AM, gdawson6 wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that means whole grains without their anti-nutrients

> removed...not whole grains in general. Double check where you read

> that from. Modern processed whole grain foods definitely can bind to

> many minerals in our digestive track and prevent us from absorbing

> them, While properly prepared whole are grains are a rich source of

> minerals and vitamins.

>

> Weston A. Price was all for lentils and whole grains when they are

> prepared properly...and eaten with fat soluble activator vitamins.

>

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Throughout history grains have been considered the " staff of life " for all

cultures. So then why has it become popular to exclude grains from the diet

recently, as if there were something inately wrong with the grain rather than

the individual?

Just, Jim

gdawson6 <gdawson6@...> wrote:

I'm pretty sure that means whole grains without their anti-nutrients

removed...not whole grains in general. Double check where you read

that from. Modern processed whole grain foods definitely can bind to

many minerals in our digestive track and prevent us from absorbing

them, While properly prepared whole are grains are a rich source of

minerals and vitamins.

Weston A. Price was all for lentils and whole grains when they are

prepared properly...and eaten with fat soluble activator vitamins.

-

>

>

> I just read in Nourishing Traditions that eating too many whole grains

> depletes us of our minerals.

>

> I eat mostly whole oatmeal and a rice/bean/lentil mix. My protein is

> mostly 3 egg yolks a day with a piece of raw liver once a week.

>

> NOW what am I supposed to do? Used to make salads every day and can't

> now and used to steam other veggies but now know you must boil a lot

> which lets me out there too because of several reasons.

>

>

>

Well done is better than well said..., Jim Igo

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> Throughout history grains have been considered the " staff of life "

for all cultures. So then why has it become popular to exclude

grains from the diet recently, as if there were something inately

wrong with the grain rather than the individual?

>

> Just, Jim

>

I personally find that I tend to get a small " potbelly " when I eat a

lot of grains. I try to eat pretty low-carb. high-fat, and it seems

to work for me. It's not like I'd never eat grains again, but I

wouldn't eat them regularly.

mike

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Thanks.

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Re: Minerals

>

>This is supposed to be the best: http://www.wateroz.com/

>

>--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

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>> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink

reverse osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

>>

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I would say raw milk, bone broth, eggs, organs/glands/muscle meats/fats

especially the liver, coconut meat from fresh coconut would be good sources.

Have bone broth or stock gravy with every solid meal. Boiled kelp is good too.

Magnesium chloride oil as most foods are deficient in magnesium. Have fermented

cod liver oil or sunlight for vitamin D.

What are the benefits of water oz minerals?

Danny Holt

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Subject: Re: Minerals

Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:00 AM

 

This is supposed to be the best: http://www.wateroz. com/

--- In , Parashis <artpages@.. .>

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> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink reverse

osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

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ConcenTrace and Azomite are recommended in NT.

--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

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> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink reverse

osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

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Thank you very much!

On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 AM, carolyn_graff wrote:

> ConcenTrace and Azomite are recommended in NT.

>

> --- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>>

>> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink

reverse osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

>>

>>

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Wow, at vitaminlife.com it's

ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops

By: Trace Minerals

UPC Code: 878941000096

Price: $284.54

Says it comes from the Great Lakes. Do you think sea salt has the same thing?

On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 AM, carolyn_graff wrote:

> ConcenTrace and Azomite are recommended in NT.

>

> --- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>>

>> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink

reverse osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

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Regarding water, I would suggest a less expensive (and absolutely not

multi-level) water purification and alkalizing machine. I personally

have been using a waterworks4u.com Aquarius water purification machine

for a couple of years now, but their cheaper machines work well too.

I learned that minerals work vibrationally and that you do not need

massive amounts of them added to your water. Sort of like water running

over rocks in a river to get the vibration of the minerals.

The best mineral companies I have found are the following:

* tonicgold.com -- i use the one with Gotu Kola

* Ambaya Gold -- I purchase their mineral and detox products

* Omica -- great source of shilijit (amazing mineral), zeolite, and

water fiters

* Healthforce -- super food powders are amazing too, but I use the

separately

I suggest placing a few drops or whatever you like of their products in

a central water jug and filling glass bottles for re-use. I know it

sounds a little extreme, but the alkaline water absorbs the vibration of

the supplements and you body will receive that vibration whenever you

use their products. My health has gotten so amazing that it takes some

metaphysics to explain what has happened. :-D I highly recommend their

products

I tend to eat very Weston Price and Primal Diet/Aajonous Vonderplanitz

with some of the raw vegan type foods mixed in. Very native food focused.

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--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>

> Wow, at vitaminlife.com it's

> ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops

> By: Trace Minerals

> UPC Code: 878941000096

>

> Price: $284.54

Keep in mind that that is the price for an entire gallon. The dosage is a few

drops in a glass of water.

> Says it comes from the Great Lakes. Do you think sea salt has

> the same thing?

Because most of the sodium is removed from Concentrace, the desirable mineral

content is far more concentrated than what you'll get in sea salt.

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OK I get it. Will definitely save up for it since it was the recommended thing.

Re: Minerals

>

>

>

>--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

wrote:

>>

>> Wow, at vitaminlife.com it's

>> ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops

>> By: Trace Minerals

>> UPC Code: 878941000096

>>

>> Price: $284.54

>

>Keep in mind that that is the price for an entire gallon. The dosage is a few

drops in a glass of water.

>

>> Says it comes from the Great Lakes. Do you think sea salt has

>> the same thing?

>

>Because most of the sodium is removed from Concentrace, the desirable mineral

content is far more concentrated than what you'll get in sea salt.

>

>

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--- In , Parashis <artpages@...>

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> OK I get it. Will definitely save up for it since it was the

> recommended thing.

Why not just get one of the smaller sized bottles they sell on the site?

4oz $14.24:

http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/PNAME/ConcenTrace_Trace_Mineral_Drops/pr\

oduct_id/41029

8oz $20.24:

http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/PNAME/ConcenTrace_Trace_Mineral_Drops/pr\

oduct_id/41030

You might even want to try the 1/2 oz size just to see if you can handle the

taste (personally, I can't stand the stuff if it's in plain water.)

http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/PNAME/ConcenTrace_Trace_Mineral_Drops/pr\

oduct_id/41027

> Re: Minerals

> >

> >

> >

> >--- In , Parashis <artpages@>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Wow, at vitaminlife.com it's

> >> ConcenTrace Trace Mineral Drops

> >> By: Trace Minerals

> >> UPC Code: 878941000096

> >>

> >> Price: $284.54

> >

> >Keep in mind that that is the price for an entire gallon. The dosage is a few

drops in a glass of water.

> >

> >> Says it comes from the Great Lakes. Do you think sea salt has

> >> the same thing?

> >

> >Because most of the sodium is removed from Concentrace, the desirable mineral

content is far more concentrated than what you'll get in sea salt.

> >

> >

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a gallon would last a very very long time. just buy an 8 oz bottle for $20.

>

> > ConcenTrace and Azomite are recommended in NT.

> >

> > --- In , Parashis <artpages@>

wrote:

> >>

> >> Is there a mineral supplement that is supposed to be the best? I drink

reverse osmosis water and worry about lack of them.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

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