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I just posted this on my blog...I was surprised that Vit D2 and Vit D3 were

considered " equal " . I usually encourage the Vit D3 and discourage the

50,000 IU Vit D2 that MDs usually prescribe. Any insight or thoughts on

this???

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> Medscape Medical News from:

>

> ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

>

> This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine Society.

>

> From Medscape Medical News

>

> Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

>

>

>

> Authors and Disclosures

>

> June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) — The Endocrine Society today

> unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

>

> F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

>

> The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

>

> " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

>

> The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

>

> The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

>

> " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups — essentially

> everyone is at risk. "

>

> Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> ng/mL.

>

> " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline states.

>

> For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

>

> Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> IU/day of vitamin D.

>

> Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30 ng/mL.

>

> Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> than 30 ng/mL.

>

> " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> reported.

>

> Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> without medical supervision, " include the following:

>

> 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

>

> However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

>

> " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

>

> For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

>

> He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> and high blood pressure.

>

> The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> recommendations for care.

>

> Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> became involved. "

>

> Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

>

> " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

>

> Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> task force are listed with the original article.

>

> ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> 2011.

>

> J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

>

> http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment. It is

needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as vitamin D3

since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function declines with age

imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) — The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups — essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment. It is

needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as vitamin D3

since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function declines with age

imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) — The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups — essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment. It is

needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as vitamin D3

since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function declines with age

imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) — The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups — essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Catia,

I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

fractures.

I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

" controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

death and I don't blame her.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:51 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment.

It is needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as

vitamin D3 since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function

declines with age imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine

Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) - The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups - essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline

states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30

ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427

<http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne>

& src=nldne

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200964

Effect of Vitamin D3 and Calcium on Fracture Risk in 65- to 71-Year-Old Women:

A Population-Based 3-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial-the Ostpre-Fps, (© 2010

American Society for Bone and Mineral Research) *** 800 IU vit D & 1000 mg Ca x

3 yr study in Finland

http://www.ajcn.org/content/91/1/82.

Bolland, Mark J., Bacon, J., Horne, Anne M, Mason, Barbar H, Ames,

Rth W., Wang, Tom KM, Grey, B., Gamble, Greg D,, and Reid, Ian R,

Vitamin D insufficiency and health outcomes over 5 Y in older women, (Am J Clin

Nutr January 2010 vol. 91 no. 1 82-89, 2010, American Society for Nutrition)

“Women with a seasonally adjusted 25(OH)D concentration < 50 nmol/L were not

at

increased risk of adverse consequences for any musculoskeletal outcome,

including fracture, falls, bone density, or grip strength or any nonskeletal

outcomes, including death, myocardial infarction, cancer, hart failure,

diabetes, or adverse changes in blood pressure, weight body composition,

cholesterol, or glucose.â€

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/515957

Magnesium intake from food and supplements is associated with bone mineral

density in healthy older white subjects. (elderly health), M. Ryder,

I Shorr, J. Bush, Tamara , Stone and Frances A

Tylavsky. Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, 53.11 (Nove 2005):

p1875-1881. Academic One File. Web. 13 Dec. 2010, PMID: 16274367 [PubMed -

indexed for MEDLINE]

Vajda, R.D.

www.GingerJens.com

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 10:37:58 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Catia,

I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

fractures.

I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

" controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

death and I don't blame her.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:51 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment.

It is needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as

vitamin D3 since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function

declines with age imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine

Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) - The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups - essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline

states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30

ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427

<http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427 & src=nldne>

& src=nldne

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200964

Effect of Vitamin D3 and Calcium on Fracture Risk in 65- to 71-Year-Old Women:

A Population-Based 3-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial-the Ostpre-Fps, (© 2010

American Society for Bone and Mineral Research) *** 800 IU vit D & 1000 mg Ca x

3 yr study in Finland

http://www.ajcn.org/content/91/1/82.

Bolland, Mark J., Bacon, J., Horne, Anne M, Mason, Barbar H, Ames,

Rth W., Wang, Tom KM, Grey, B., Gamble, Greg D,, and Reid, Ian R,

Vitamin D insufficiency and health outcomes over 5 Y in older women, (Am J Clin

Nutr January 2010 vol. 91 no. 1 82-89, 2010, American Society for Nutrition)

“Women with a seasonally adjusted 25(OH)D concentration < 50 nmol/L were not

at

increased risk of adverse consequences for any musculoskeletal outcome,

including fracture, falls, bone density, or grip strength or any nonskeletal

outcomes, including death, myocardial infarction, cancer, hart failure,

diabetes, or adverse changes in blood pressure, weight body composition,

cholesterol, or glucose.â€

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/515957

Magnesium intake from food and supplements is associated with bone mineral

density in healthy older white subjects. (elderly health), M. Ryder,

I Shorr, J. Bush, Tamara , Stone and Frances A

Tylavsky. Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, 53.11 (Nove 2005):

p1875-1881. Academic One File. Web. 13 Dec. 2010, PMID: 16274367 [PubMed -

indexed for MEDLINE]

Vajda, R.D.

www.GingerJens.com

________________________________

To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 10:37:58 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Catia,

I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

fractures.

I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

" controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

death and I don't blame her.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:51 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment.

It is needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as

vitamin D3 since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function

declines with age imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine

Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) - The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups - essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline

states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30

ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200964

Effect of Vitamin D3 and Calcium on Fracture Risk in 65- to 71-Year-Old Women:

A Population-Based 3-Year Randomized, Controlled Trial-the Ostpre-Fps, (© 2010

American Society for Bone and Mineral Research) *** 800 IU vit D & 1000 mg Ca x

3 yr study in Finland

http://www.ajcn.org/content/91/1/82.

Bolland, Mark J., Bacon, J., Horne, Anne M, Mason, Barbar H, Ames,

Rth W., Wang, Tom KM, Grey, B., Gamble, Greg D,, and Reid, Ian R,

Vitamin D insufficiency and health outcomes over 5 Y in older women, (Am J Clin

Nutr January 2010 vol. 91 no. 1 82-89, 2010, American Society for Nutrition)

“Women with a seasonally adjusted 25(OH)D concentration < 50 nmol/L were not

at

increased risk of adverse consequences for any musculoskeletal outcome,

including fracture, falls, bone density, or grip strength or any nonskeletal

outcomes, including death, myocardial infarction, cancer, hart failure,

diabetes, or adverse changes in blood pressure, weight body composition,

cholesterol, or glucose.â€

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Magnesium intake from food and supplements is associated with bone mineral

density in healthy older white subjects. (elderly health), M. Ryder,

I Shorr, J. Bush, Tamara , Stone and Frances A

Tylavsky. Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, 53.11 (Nove 2005):

p1875-1881. Academic One File. Web. 13 Dec. 2010, PMID: 16274367 [PubMed -

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To: rd-usa

Sent: Wed, June 8, 2011 10:37:58 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Catia,

I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

fractures.

I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

" controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

death and I don't blame her.

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:51 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

The efficacy can be the same if the patient doesn't have renal impairment.

It is needed a higher dose of vitamin D2 though to have the same effect as

vitamin D3 since it has transformed in the kidney. Since renal function

declines with age imo elderly patients should receive vitamin D3.

Catia Borges

>

> > Medscape Medical News from:

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting

> >

> > This coverage is not sanctioned by, nor a part of, The Endocrine

Society.

> >

> > From Medscape Medical News

> >

> > Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin D

> >

> >

> >

> > Authors and Disclosures

> >

> > June 7, 2011 (Boston, Massachusetts) - The Endocrine Society today

> > unveiled a Clinical Practice Guideline on the evaluation, treatment, and

> > prevention of vitamin D deficiency, with an emphasis on the care of

> > patients who are at risk for vitamin D deficiency.

> >

> > F. Holick, MD, PhD, from Boston University Medical Center,

> > Massachusetts, who chaired the 8-member task force that developed the

> > guideline, summarized the recommendations at a press briefing here at

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting.

> >

> > The guideline also was published online June 6 in the Journal of

> > Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism.

> >

> > " Based on all the evidence, at a minimum, we recommend vitamin D levels

> > of 30 ng/mL, and because of the vagaries of some of the assays, to

> > guarantee sufficiency, we recommend between 40 and 60 ng/mL for both

> > children and adults, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > The society's clinical practice guideline was developed by " experts in

> > the field who carefully reviewed the current literature and features the

> > latest and most comprehensive recommendations available on the

> > prevention and treatment of vitamin D deficiency, " he said.

> >

> > The guideline recommends that clinicians screen for vitamin D deficiency

> > in people at risk for deficiency, including obese individuals, blacks,

> > pregnant and lactating women, and patients with malabsorption syndromes.

> >

> > " We do not recommend population screening for vitamin D deficiency in

> > individuals who are not at risk, " Dr. Holick said, but added that

> > " vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups - essentially

> > everyone is at risk. "

> >

> > Screening should be performed using a " reliable assay " for

> > 25-hydroxy-vitamin D (25[OH]D), not 1,25-dihydroxy-vitamin D

> > (1,25[OH]2D), " which tells you nothing about vitamin D status, " Dr.

> > Holick said. Vitamin D deficiency is defined as 25[OH]D levels below 20

> > ng/mL.

> >

> > " Considering that vitamin D deficiency is very common in all age groups

> > and that few foods contain vitamin D, the Task Force recommended

> > supplementation at suggested daily intake and tolerable upper limit

> > levels, depending on age and clinical circumstances, " the guideline

states.

> >

> > For bone health, infants and children up to 1 year of age require at

> > least 400 IU/day vitamin D, and children 1 year and older need at least

> > 600 IU/day, the guideline states. However, at least 1000 IU/day of

> > vitamin D may be needed to raise the blood level of 25(OH)D consistently

> > above 30 ng/mL, it notes.

> >

> > Adults aged 19 to 70 years require at least 600 IU/day of vitamin D to

> > maximize bone health and muscle function. However, getting 25(OH)D

> > levels consistently above 30 ng/mL may require at least 1500 to 2000

> > IU/day of vitamin D.

> >

> > Adults 70 years and older require at least 800 IU/day of vitamin D for

> > bone health and fall prevention; at least 1500 to 2000 IU/day of

> > supplemental vitamin D may be needed to keep 25(OH)D levels above 30

ng/mL.

> >

> > Pregnant and lactating women need a minimum of 600 IU/day of vitamin D;

> > 1500 IU/day may be needed to maintain blood levels of 25(OH)D higher

> > than 30 ng/mL.

> >

> > " Obese children and adults and children and adults on anticonvulsant

> > medications, glucocorticoids, antifungals such as ketoconazole, and

> > medications for AIDS need at least 2 to 3 times more vitamin D for their

> > age group to satisfy their body's vitamin D requirement, " Dr. Holick

> > reported.

> >

> > Tolerable upper limits of vitamin D, which " should not be exceeded

> > without medical supervision, " include the following:

> >

> > 1000 IU/day for infants aged up to 6 months,

> > 1500 IU/day for infants aged 6 months to 1 year old,

> > 2500 IU/day for children aged 1 to 3 years,

> > 3000 IU/day for children aged 4 to 8 years, and

> > 4000 IU/day for everyone older than 8 years.

> >

> > However, the guideline states that for individuals who are vitamin D

> > deficient, higher levels of vitamin D (2000 IU/day for children up to

> > age 1 year; 4000 IU/day for children aged 1 - 18 years, and up to 10,000

> > IU/day for adults aged 19 years and older) " may be necessary to correct,

> > treat, and prevent vitamin D deficiency, " Dr. Holick said.

> >

> > " Both vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 is equally fine in treating and

> > preventing vitamin D deficiency, " he added.

> >

> > For all age groups, it is unknown whether these age-specific levels of

> > vitamin D are " enough to provide all of the potential nonskeletal health

> > benefits associated with vitamin D, " Dr. Holick noted.

> >

> > He also said that at present, " there is not sufficient evidence to

> > recommend prescribing vitamin D to attain the noncalcemic benefit for

> > cardiovascular protection. " However, association studies have suggested

> > that increasing vitamin D levels may help protect against some cancers,

> > including colorectal cancer, as well as infectious disease, diabetes,

> > and high blood pressure.

> >

> > The upper limits and the dietary intake levels in the Endocrine Society

> > guideline for the most part mirror those of the 2010 Institute of

> > Medicine consensus report, " Dietary Reference Intakes for Calcium and

> > Vitamin D, " although the Endocrine Society gives more explicit

> > recommendations for care.

> >

> > Dr. Holick commented that the Institute of Medicine report used a

> > " population model, not a medical model, and was not intended to direct

> > physicians on care of patients. It was up to professional associations

> > to establish guidelines of care, which is why [the Endocrine Society]

> > became involved. "

> >

> > Stencel, media relations officer of the National Academy of

> > Sciences, said the committee that issued the 2010 report is no longer an

> > entity and would not have a comment on the Endocrine Society guideline.

> >

> > " At some point down the road, there is the potential that [institute of

> > Medicine] could convene a new committee to reexamine all the new

> > information and look at changing the [dietary reference intakes], but at

> > this point we wouldn't do any immediate re-look at this, " she said.

> >

> > Development of the clinical practice guideline was supported solely by

> > the Endocrine Society. Dr. Holick has disclosed financial or

> > business/organizational interests with Merck, Novartis, Nichols-Quest

> > Diagnostics, Bayer, Aventis, Warner Chilcott, Amgen, the UV Foundation,

> > DMI, and the Mushroom Council. A complete list of disclosures for the

> > task force are listed with the original article.

> >

> > ENDO 2011: The Endocrine Society 93rd Annual Meeting. Presented June 6,

> > 2011.

> >

> > J Clin Endocrinol Metabol. Published online June 6, 2011. Abstract

> >

> > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/744128?sssdmh=dm1.693427

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There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related with an

intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per day

around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our genetics

didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to determine

her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many flaws) say that

25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near enough to promote good

bone health and function.I talked with some experts in this year ESPEN advanced

clinical nutrition course and in their opinion, we should target for serum

levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside working

facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without sunscreen afraid of

getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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Digna

There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related with an

intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per day

around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our genetics

didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to determine

her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many flaws) say that

25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near enough to promote good

bone health and function.I talked with some experts in this year ESPEN advanced

clinical nutrition course and in their opinion, we should target for serum

levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside working

facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without sunscreen afraid of

getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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Digna

There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related with an

intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per day

around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our genetics

didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to determine

her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many flaws) say that

25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near enough to promote good

bone health and function.I talked with some experts in this year ESPEN advanced

clinical nutrition course and in their opinion, we should target for serum

levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside working

facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without sunscreen afraid of

getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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Yahoo had major lag and I thought the 1st answer wasn't posted, hence the double

answer :).

Here are some papers on vitamin D deficiency and toxicity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20511052

Low vitamin D status: definition, prevalence, consequences, and correction.

Binkley N, Ramamurthy R, Krueger D.

Source

University of Wisconsin-Madison Osteoporosis Clinical Center and Research

Program, Madison, WI 53705, USA. nbinkley@...

Abstract

Vitamin D is obtained from cutaneous production when 7-dehydrocholesterol is

converted to vitamin D(3) (cholecalciferol) by ultraviolet B radiation or by

oral intake of vitamin D(2) (ergocalciferol) and D(3). An individual's vitamin D

status is best evaluated by measuring the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D

(25(OH)D) concentration. Although controversy surrounds the definition of low

vitamin D status, there is increasing agreement that the optimal circulating

25(OH)D level should be approximately 30 to 32 ng/mL or above. Using this

definition, it has been estimated that approximately three-quarters of all

adults in the United States have low levels. Low vitamin D status classically

has skeletal consequences such as osteomalacia/rickets. More recently,

associations between low vitamin D status and increased risk for various

nonskeletal morbidities have been recognized; whether all of these associations

are causally related to low vitamin D status remains to be determined. To

achieve optimal vitamin D status, daily intakes of at least 1000 IU or more of

vitamin D are required. The risk of toxicity with " high " amounts of vitamin D

intake is low. Substantial between-individual variability exists in response to

the same administered vitamin D dose. When to monitor 25(OH)D levels has

received little attention. Supplementation with vitamin D(3) may be preferable

to vitamin D(2).

____________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20413135

Addressing vitamin D deficiency in Canada: a public health innovation whose time

has come.

Schwalfenberg GK, Genuis SJ, Hiltz MN.

Source

Faculty of Medicine, University of Alberta, 301, 9509-156 Street, Edmonton,

Alberta T5P 4J5, Canada. schwalfe@...

Abstract

There is disturbing evidence of widespread vitamin D deficiency in many

population groups, particularly within nations at high latitude. Numerous recent

studies in the scientific literature associate vitamin D deficiency with a

colossal increase in morbidity and mortality. Since Canada is at higher

latitude, this review assesses the vitamin D status within the Canadian

population. This review was prepared by assessing available medical and

scientific literature from Medline, as well as by reviewing several books and

conference proceedings. A standard 25(OH)D level of 75-80nmol/l or more was used

to indicate vitamin D sufficiency. Between 70% and 97% of Canadians demonstrate

vitamin D insufficiency. Furthermore, studies assessing 25(OH)D levels of

vitamin D at 25-40nmol/l reveal that many Canadians have profoundly deficient

levels. Repletion of vitamin D3 with 2000IU/day for those not receiving

judicious sun exposure and those with no contra-indications would likely achieve

normalized levels in more than 93% of patients, without risk of toxicity.

Explicit directives regarding vitamin D assessment and management are urgently

required.

______________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21199466

Int J Rheum Dis. 2010 Oct;13(4):318-23. doi: 10.1111/j.1756-185X.2010.01559.x.

Vitamin D deficiency: the time to ignore it has passed.

Haroon M, Regan MJ.

Source

Department of Rheumatology, Cork University Hospital, National University of

Ireland, Cork, Ireland. mharoon301@...

Abstract

It is true to say that it is just over the past decade and even more so in this

new decade that it has become appreciated how vitally important vitamin D is for

optimum health. This 'sunshine' vitamin could justifiably be called 'the

nutrient of this decade'. Until recently, vitamin D was known primarily for its

role in bone health. However, as a result of advances in research this

perspective has changed. While it is true to say that the classic function of

vitamin D is to control calcium and vitamin D metabolism, we now know that the

importance of vitamin D spreads far wider than just bone health. There is much

ongoing research with regard to its emerging role in immunopathology, as a

potent inhibitor of cellular growth, stimulator of insulin secretion, modulator

of immune function and inhibitor of renin production. This review discusses the

current evidence with regard to the clinical consequences of vitamin D

deficiency and underscores the fact that physicians should be vigilant in

searching for and treating this preventable and treatable condition.

Furthermore, this review highlights the fact that the time is opportune for

rheumatologists to agree upon clinical guidelines to advise practitioners as to

when and in which patients to check for, what target vitamin D level to aim for

and how best to treat vitamin D deficiency.

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Yahoo had major lag and I thought the 1st answer wasn't posted, hence the double

answer :).

Here are some papers on vitamin D deficiency and toxicity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20511052

Low vitamin D status: definition, prevalence, consequences, and correction.

Binkley N, Ramamurthy R, Krueger D.

Source

University of Wisconsin-Madison Osteoporosis Clinical Center and Research

Program, Madison, WI 53705, USA. nbinkley@...

Abstract

Vitamin D is obtained from cutaneous production when 7-dehydrocholesterol is

converted to vitamin D(3) (cholecalciferol) by ultraviolet B radiation or by

oral intake of vitamin D(2) (ergocalciferol) and D(3). An individual's vitamin D

status is best evaluated by measuring the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D

(25(OH)D) concentration. Although controversy surrounds the definition of low

vitamin D status, there is increasing agreement that the optimal circulating

25(OH)D level should be approximately 30 to 32 ng/mL or above. Using this

definition, it has been estimated that approximately three-quarters of all

adults in the United States have low levels. Low vitamin D status classically

has skeletal consequences such as osteomalacia/rickets. More recently,

associations between low vitamin D status and increased risk for various

nonskeletal morbidities have been recognized; whether all of these associations

are causally related to low vitamin D status remains to be determined. To

achieve optimal vitamin D status, daily intakes of at least 1000 IU or more of

vitamin D are required. The risk of toxicity with " high " amounts of vitamin D

intake is low. Substantial between-individual variability exists in response to

the same administered vitamin D dose. When to monitor 25(OH)D levels has

received little attention. Supplementation with vitamin D(3) may be preferable

to vitamin D(2).

____________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20413135

Addressing vitamin D deficiency in Canada: a public health innovation whose time

has come.

Schwalfenberg GK, Genuis SJ, Hiltz MN.

Source

Faculty of Medicine, University of Alberta, 301, 9509-156 Street, Edmonton,

Alberta T5P 4J5, Canada. schwalfe@...

Abstract

There is disturbing evidence of widespread vitamin D deficiency in many

population groups, particularly within nations at high latitude. Numerous recent

studies in the scientific literature associate vitamin D deficiency with a

colossal increase in morbidity and mortality. Since Canada is at higher

latitude, this review assesses the vitamin D status within the Canadian

population. This review was prepared by assessing available medical and

scientific literature from Medline, as well as by reviewing several books and

conference proceedings. A standard 25(OH)D level of 75-80nmol/l or more was used

to indicate vitamin D sufficiency. Between 70% and 97% of Canadians demonstrate

vitamin D insufficiency. Furthermore, studies assessing 25(OH)D levels of

vitamin D at 25-40nmol/l reveal that many Canadians have profoundly deficient

levels. Repletion of vitamin D3 with 2000IU/day for those not receiving

judicious sun exposure and those with no contra-indications would likely achieve

normalized levels in more than 93% of patients, without risk of toxicity.

Explicit directives regarding vitamin D assessment and management are urgently

required.

______________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21199466

Int J Rheum Dis. 2010 Oct;13(4):318-23. doi: 10.1111/j.1756-185X.2010.01559.x.

Vitamin D deficiency: the time to ignore it has passed.

Haroon M, Regan MJ.

Source

Department of Rheumatology, Cork University Hospital, National University of

Ireland, Cork, Ireland. mharoon301@...

Abstract

It is true to say that it is just over the past decade and even more so in this

new decade that it has become appreciated how vitally important vitamin D is for

optimum health. This 'sunshine' vitamin could justifiably be called 'the

nutrient of this decade'. Until recently, vitamin D was known primarily for its

role in bone health. However, as a result of advances in research this

perspective has changed. While it is true to say that the classic function of

vitamin D is to control calcium and vitamin D metabolism, we now know that the

importance of vitamin D spreads far wider than just bone health. There is much

ongoing research with regard to its emerging role in immunopathology, as a

potent inhibitor of cellular growth, stimulator of insulin secretion, modulator

of immune function and inhibitor of renin production. This review discusses the

current evidence with regard to the clinical consequences of vitamin D

deficiency and underscores the fact that physicians should be vigilant in

searching for and treating this preventable and treatable condition.

Furthermore, this review highlights the fact that the time is opportune for

rheumatologists to agree upon clinical guidelines to advise practitioners as to

when and in which patients to check for, what target vitamin D level to aim for

and how best to treat vitamin D deficiency.

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Yahoo had major lag and I thought the 1st answer wasn't posted, hence the double

answer :).

Here are some papers on vitamin D deficiency and toxicity:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20511052

Low vitamin D status: definition, prevalence, consequences, and correction.

Binkley N, Ramamurthy R, Krueger D.

Source

University of Wisconsin-Madison Osteoporosis Clinical Center and Research

Program, Madison, WI 53705, USA. nbinkley@...

Abstract

Vitamin D is obtained from cutaneous production when 7-dehydrocholesterol is

converted to vitamin D(3) (cholecalciferol) by ultraviolet B radiation or by

oral intake of vitamin D(2) (ergocalciferol) and D(3). An individual's vitamin D

status is best evaluated by measuring the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D

(25(OH)D) concentration. Although controversy surrounds the definition of low

vitamin D status, there is increasing agreement that the optimal circulating

25(OH)D level should be approximately 30 to 32 ng/mL or above. Using this

definition, it has been estimated that approximately three-quarters of all

adults in the United States have low levels. Low vitamin D status classically

has skeletal consequences such as osteomalacia/rickets. More recently,

associations between low vitamin D status and increased risk for various

nonskeletal morbidities have been recognized; whether all of these associations

are causally related to low vitamin D status remains to be determined. To

achieve optimal vitamin D status, daily intakes of at least 1000 IU or more of

vitamin D are required. The risk of toxicity with " high " amounts of vitamin D

intake is low. Substantial between-individual variability exists in response to

the same administered vitamin D dose. When to monitor 25(OH)D levels has

received little attention. Supplementation with vitamin D(3) may be preferable

to vitamin D(2).

____________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20413135

Addressing vitamin D deficiency in Canada: a public health innovation whose time

has come.

Schwalfenberg GK, Genuis SJ, Hiltz MN.

Source

Faculty of Medicine, University of Alberta, 301, 9509-156 Street, Edmonton,

Alberta T5P 4J5, Canada. schwalfe@...

Abstract

There is disturbing evidence of widespread vitamin D deficiency in many

population groups, particularly within nations at high latitude. Numerous recent

studies in the scientific literature associate vitamin D deficiency with a

colossal increase in morbidity and mortality. Since Canada is at higher

latitude, this review assesses the vitamin D status within the Canadian

population. This review was prepared by assessing available medical and

scientific literature from Medline, as well as by reviewing several books and

conference proceedings. A standard 25(OH)D level of 75-80nmol/l or more was used

to indicate vitamin D sufficiency. Between 70% and 97% of Canadians demonstrate

vitamin D insufficiency. Furthermore, studies assessing 25(OH)D levels of

vitamin D at 25-40nmol/l reveal that many Canadians have profoundly deficient

levels. Repletion of vitamin D3 with 2000IU/day for those not receiving

judicious sun exposure and those with no contra-indications would likely achieve

normalized levels in more than 93% of patients, without risk of toxicity.

Explicit directives regarding vitamin D assessment and management are urgently

required.

______________________________________________________________________

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21199466

Int J Rheum Dis. 2010 Oct;13(4):318-23. doi: 10.1111/j.1756-185X.2010.01559.x.

Vitamin D deficiency: the time to ignore it has passed.

Haroon M, Regan MJ.

Source

Department of Rheumatology, Cork University Hospital, National University of

Ireland, Cork, Ireland. mharoon301@...

Abstract

It is true to say that it is just over the past decade and even more so in this

new decade that it has become appreciated how vitally important vitamin D is for

optimum health. This 'sunshine' vitamin could justifiably be called 'the

nutrient of this decade'. Until recently, vitamin D was known primarily for its

role in bone health. However, as a result of advances in research this

perspective has changed. While it is true to say that the classic function of

vitamin D is to control calcium and vitamin D metabolism, we now know that the

importance of vitamin D spreads far wider than just bone health. There is much

ongoing research with regard to its emerging role in immunopathology, as a

potent inhibitor of cellular growth, stimulator of insulin secretion, modulator

of immune function and inhibitor of renin production. This review discusses the

current evidence with regard to the clinical consequences of vitamin D

deficiency and underscores the fact that physicians should be vigilant in

searching for and treating this preventable and treatable condition.

Furthermore, this review highlights the fact that the time is opportune for

rheumatologists to agree upon clinical guidelines to advise practitioners as to

when and in which patients to check for, what target vitamin D level to aim for

and how best to treat vitamin D deficiency.

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Bulletin of the NYU Hospital for Joint Diseases 2010;68(3):218-22

Vitamin D in Lupus

New Kid on the Block?

Diane L. Kamen, M.D., M.S.C.R.

Vitamin D is an essential steroid hormone, with wellestablished

effects on mineral metabolism, skeletal health,

and recently established effects on the cardiovascular and

immune systems. Vitamin D deficiency is highly prevalent

and evidence is mounting that it contributes to the morbidity

and mortality of multiple chronic diseases, including

systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE). Patients with SLE

avoid the sun because of photosensitive rashes and potential

for disease flare, so adequate oral supplementation is

critical. This review will describe the prevalence of vitamin

D deficiency in patients with SLE, identify risk factors for

deficiency, describe the consequences of deficiency, and

review current vitamin D recommendations for patients with

rheumatic diseases.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YCPyTUsokLiefD7cTDCxzD5f6fah_5mbhvhwlfwu1gCQ7sNUqUZ\

1UjWL4gyUCYbNApUfTvaNme-0wIfgq3xGRlRo9ltcCjOXLHbkkUTVDbw/Vitamin%20D/Vitamin%20D\

%20in%20Lupus.pdf

This paper talks about the vitamin D deficiencies as well.

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Bulletin of the NYU Hospital for Joint Diseases 2010;68(3):218-22

Vitamin D in Lupus

New Kid on the Block?

Diane L. Kamen, M.D., M.S.C.R.

Vitamin D is an essential steroid hormone, with wellestablished

effects on mineral metabolism, skeletal health,

and recently established effects on the cardiovascular and

immune systems. Vitamin D deficiency is highly prevalent

and evidence is mounting that it contributes to the morbidity

and mortality of multiple chronic diseases, including

systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE). Patients with SLE

avoid the sun because of photosensitive rashes and potential

for disease flare, so adequate oral supplementation is

critical. This review will describe the prevalence of vitamin

D deficiency in patients with SLE, identify risk factors for

deficiency, describe the consequences of deficiency, and

review current vitamin D recommendations for patients with

rheumatic diseases.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YCPyTUsokLiefD7cTDCxzD5f6fah_5mbhvhwlfwu1gCQ7sNUqUZ\

1UjWL4gyUCYbNApUfTvaNme-0wIfgq3xGRlRo9ltcCjOXLHbkkUTVDbw/Vitamin%20D/Vitamin%20D\

%20in%20Lupus.pdf

This paper talks about the vitamin D deficiencies as well.

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Bulletin of the NYU Hospital for Joint Diseases 2010;68(3):218-22

Vitamin D in Lupus

New Kid on the Block?

Diane L. Kamen, M.D., M.S.C.R.

Vitamin D is an essential steroid hormone, with wellestablished

effects on mineral metabolism, skeletal health,

and recently established effects on the cardiovascular and

immune systems. Vitamin D deficiency is highly prevalent

and evidence is mounting that it contributes to the morbidity

and mortality of multiple chronic diseases, including

systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE). Patients with SLE

avoid the sun because of photosensitive rashes and potential

for disease flare, so adequate oral supplementation is

critical. This review will describe the prevalence of vitamin

D deficiency in patients with SLE, identify risk factors for

deficiency, describe the consequences of deficiency, and

review current vitamin D recommendations for patients with

rheumatic diseases.

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YCPyTUsokLiefD7cTDCxzD5f6fah_5mbhvhwlfwu1gCQ7sNUqUZ\

1UjWL4gyUCYbNApUfTvaNme-0wIfgq3xGRlRo9ltcCjOXLHbkkUTVDbw/Vitamin%20D/Vitamin%20D\

%20in%20Lupus.pdf

This paper talks about the vitamin D deficiencies as well.

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Thank you!

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:25 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Digna

There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related

with an intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per

day around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our

genetics didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to

determine her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many

flaws) say that 25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near

enough to promote good bone health and function.I talked with some experts

in this year ESPEN advanced clinical nutrition course and in their opinion,

we should target for serum levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with

increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside

working facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without

sunscreen afraid of getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D

deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and

continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to

current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration

will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk

of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not

as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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Thank you!

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:25 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Digna

There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related

with an intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per

day around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our

genetics didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to

determine her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many

flaws) say that 25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near

enough to promote good bone health and function.I talked with some experts

in this year ESPEN advanced clinical nutrition course and in their opinion,

we should target for serum levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with

increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside

working facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without

sunscreen afraid of getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D

deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and

continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to

current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration

will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk

of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not

as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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Thank you!

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

catianutr

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:25 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Endocrine Society Issues Practice Guideline on Vitamin

D

Digna

There are few reported cases of vitamin D toxicity and they were related

with an intake of over 40.000 IU daily.

It is estimated that during the Palaeolithic period humans synthesized per

day around 5000 IU of vitamin D. So 3500 IU is more than safe, since our

genetics didn't change that much.

I think the best way to convince your patient to take vitamin D is to

determine her serum levels. Although the guidelines (which imo have many

flaws) say that 25ug/mL is normal, most of experts say that isn't near

enough to promote good bone health and function.I talked with some experts

in this year ESPEN advanced clinical nutrition course and in their opinion,

we should target for serum levels of 75-100ug/mL, specially in people with

increase risk of bone fracture.

Considering that now days most people spend most of their life inside

working facilities or at home, and don't even go on the sun without

sunscreen afraid of getting skin cancer, we can say that most are vitamin D

deficiency.

Atm I am on holidays, I will check if I have some references with me.

Here is a source for your patient to read http://www.vitamindcouncil.org

Best regards

Catia

>

> Catia,

>

>

>

> I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and

continues

> to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to

current

> literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration

will

> continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk

of

> fractures.

>

>

>

> I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not

as

> " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> death and I don't blame her.

>

>

>

>

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More info on vitamin D

http://www.sdapa.net/conferences/winter2010/presentations/Breedon-VitaminD.pdf

Catia Borges

> >

> > Catia,

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a home health client with advanced osteoporosis - has lost 8 inches

> > in height in the last few years and has suffered atleast 3 compression

> > fractures of spine. She has difficulty eating enough calories and

> continues

> > to lose weight - a total of 15 lbs since first fx 2 years ago. She is

> > prescribed amonth her multiple meds Vitamin D 3500 IU She will not take it

> > bc per client her extensive research and sources indicate that Vit D in

> > large doses is toxic. She has argued this with her MD, with me, the

> > pharmacist. She is educated (mental health field) and has access to

> current

> > literature. I have not been able to convince her that her deterioration

> will

> > continue unless she takes the supplements prescribed and she will continue

> > to lose bone. This in turn increases her pain, gastric distress and risk

> of

> > fractures.

> >

> >

> >

> > I need additional sources that contradict her conviction and that are not

> as

> > " controversial " or " iffy " as what she is reading. Her torso has folded

> > forward and I have grave concern for her at this time. She is scared to

> > death and I don't blame her.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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