Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Always interesting to read what RDs are thinking about when they read these listserv posts. To your point, the human food supply has many more offerings due to many of the relatively new processing technologies currently used. But that doesn't mean that all processed foods are good. Or bad for that matter. The fact remains that many many foods at the grocery store are made from government subsidized grains (corn, wheat, soy) that processed down to a tasteless and nutritionally weak food paste until additives, preservatives, food dyes, food flavorings, MSGs, salt, seasonings, and/or pulverized vitamins and minerals are added back in. These are the processed carb foods most would not consider an optimal source fuel. Digna, if you had 10 different " ensure " type drinks to choose from for your client, all priced the same, wouldn't the products with the most nutrition and with the least amount of unnecessary ingredients (the least processed) be on the top of your list? Osowski MS, RD, LD Registered Dietitian Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:31 PM, " Digna Cassens " wrote: > What he didn’t point out is that without processed foods over half the population in this planet will starve dt lack of access to any wholesome food. Processing is not all that bad. Some of the methods and ingredients used to preserve foods have moved forward and more “chemicals†are used, but not all chemicals are bad either. Food preservation is an ancient science, from drying, to sugaring, to salting, to smoking…. It’s necessary to keep us all fed. > > First we can’t eat the pigs and cows and chickens, then we are forbidden from eating some of the fishes, and of course, farm grown have excessive mercury (gosh I wonder why?), then we can’t add preservatives to highly susceptible foods such as breads and cereals so we either have to eat the loaf all in 2 days or risk getting cancer from the molds. So then what do we do? > > Tonight I went to Big Lots and bought a lot of processed food in bags and boxes and bottles then to CVS and bought a case of Boost high pro for my client that has been sleeping in his car the last couple of night. He has lost over 60 lbs this year bc of a neuromuscular disorder not yet identified and multiple surgeries. It’s a long story, but he’s had no meals since yesterday. His brother and wife moved him out of the small trailer they had let him use in their property bc he had overstayed his welcome due to the surgeries and length of time recovering. I’m meeting him tomorrow morning at a senior center that I suggested it might be a good place for him to get one hot meal and some snacks and spend the day instead of hanging out in his car or the strip malls at 85+ degrees like it’s been, with no food or shelter. I notified his social worker and then went shopping. Without processed foods I’d have to buy a chicken, shell eggs, wholegrain rice, fresh milk, and fresh vegetables. Then he’d do what with them? > > I’m really tired of what we can’t eat, instead of celebrating all we can eat, all we have, and how long most of us live due to all the scientific advances there are. ENOUGH! We weren’t meant to live forever. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of hl brewer > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:27 PM > To: rd-usa > Subject: Re: Dr. Mercola on FNCE > > Guess he ignored all the sessions I went to about Omega 3, real fruits/vegetables, anti-inflammatory foods, etc. > > He does point out something we all dislike - how the processed food industry is the largest financial contributor to ADA. But without subsidy our conferences would be exponentially expensive. > > Nothing stops him from submitting proposal for speaking or purchasing an expo booth. > > Holly > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > From: <maryebailey@... <mailto:maryebailey%40gmail.com> > > >To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:06 PM > >Subject: Dr. Mercola on FNCE > > > >Not a new complaint, but an interesting read nonetheless. I'd love to know > >your thoughts... > > > >http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/10/how-ada-are-manip\ ulated-by-food-industry.aspx?e_cid=20111010_DNL_art_3 > > > >The American Dietetic Association's (ADA) annual conference is often called > > " the world's largest meeting of food and nutrition experts. " According to > >the ADA, the conference brings together " more than 10,000 registered > >dietitians, nutrition science researchers, policy makers, health-care > >providers and industry leaders to address key issues affecting the health of > >America. " > > > >Interestingly though they never invited me or anyone that I recognize as a > >true expert in the use of diet to optimize human health to their conference. > > > >It is unclear how a conference that features exhibits by Coca-Cola, General > >Mills, and other processed food and junk-food giants could ever make a > >positive impact on Americans' health. > > > >Ditto for some of their presentations, such as one titled " A Fresh Look At > >Processed Foods, " presented by a 15-year Kellogg's veteran and an employee > >of the International Food Information Council, which according to > >Grist<http://www.grist.org/food/2011-09-26-pay-to-play-with-the-ada>has > >representatives from Dannon Co., General Mills, Kraft Foods, PepsiCo, > >and Mars, Inc. on its board of trustees. > > > >The speakers actually gave the message that processed foods are an important > >part of the American diet to be consumed along with fresh produce! > > > >This message is obviously not intended to help Americans' health, but rather > >pad the pockets of the processed food industry. Surprised that the ADA would > >be sending such a message? > > > >Don't be … > > > >(more at the link) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 Absolutely! And with my training I could make that selection. Most ppl couldn’t do that. But I still insist that if it comes to the choice of going hungry and eating processed, hey! Easy for me… some ppl eat insects and reptiles, and they survive starvation. I just think that Americans are too picky bc they’ve never known hunger – not true true hunger where you grub for your grub every day and survival is you full-time job. My client gulped down a bottle of Boost hi pro with gusto, didn’t even burp. His eyes expressed his gratitude. His last meal had been 2 days before, a McD’s fish sandwich. He bought the battered knowing that it had the most fat so highest satiety value and calories. I’m sure he doesn’t care if his foods are processed as long as his stomach isn’t hurting from hunger and he doesn’t lose another pound. I know this is the extreme example, but it’s out there if we don’t close our eyes and look for them. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Osowski Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 9:46 AM To: rd-usa Cc: <rd-usa > Subject: Re: Processed Always interesting to read what RDs are thinking about when they read these listserv posts. To your point, the human food supply has many more offerings due to many of the relatively new processing technologies currently used. But that doesn't mean that all processed foods are good. Or bad for that matter. The fact remains that many many foods at the grocery store are made from government subsidized grains (corn, wheat, soy) that processed down to a tasteless and nutritionally weak food paste until additives, preservatives, food dyes, food flavorings, MSGs, salt, seasonings, and/or pulverized vitamins and minerals are added back in. These are the processed carb foods most would not consider an optimal source fuel. Digna, if you had 10 different " ensure " type drinks to choose from for your client, all priced the same, wouldn't the products with the most nutrition and with the least amount of unnecessary ingredients (the least processed) be on the top of your list? Osowski MS, RD, LD Registered Dietitian Sent from my iPhone On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:31 PM, " Digna Cassens " <dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> > wrote: > What he didn’t point out is that without processed foods over half the population in this planet will starve dt lack of access to any wholesome food. Processing is not all that bad. Some of the methods and ingredients used to preserve foods have moved forward and more “chemicals†are used, but not all chemicals are bad either. Food preservation is an ancient science, from drying, to sugaring, to salting, to smoking…. It’s necessary to keep us all fed. > > First we can’t eat the pigs and cows and chickens, then we are forbidden from eating some of the fishes, and of course, farm grown have excessive mercury (gosh I wonder why?), then we can’t add preservatives to highly susceptible foods such as breads and cereals so we either have to eat the loaf all in 2 days or risk getting cancer from the molds. So then what do we do? > > Tonight I went to Big Lots and bought a lot of processed food in bags and boxes and bottles then to CVS and bought a case of Boost high pro for my client that has been sleeping in his car the last couple of night. He has lost over 60 lbs this year bc of a neuromuscular disorder not yet identified and multiple surgeries. It’s a long story, but he’s had no meals since yesterday. His brother and wife moved him out of the small trailer they had let him use in their property bc he had overstayed his welcome due to the surgeries and length of time recovering. I’m meeting him tomorrow morning at a senior center that I suggested it might be a good place for him to get one hot meal and some snacks and spend the day instead of hanging out in his car or the strip malls at 85+ degrees like it’s been, with no food or shelter. I notified his social worker and then went shopping. Without processed foods I’d have to buy a chicken, shell eggs, wholegrain rice, fresh milk, and fresh vegetables. Then he’d do what with them? > > I’m really tired of what we can’t eat, instead of celebrating all we can eat, all we have, and how long most of us live due to all the scientific advances there are. ENOUGH! We weren’t meant to live forever. > > Digna > > From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of hl brewer > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:27 PM > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: Dr. Mercola on FNCE > > Guess he ignored all the sessions I went to about Omega 3, real fruits/vegetables, anti-inflammatory foods, etc. > > He does point out something we all dislike - how the processed food industry is the largest financial contributor to ADA. But without subsidy our conferences would be exponentially expensive. > > Nothing stops him from submitting proposal for speaking or purchasing an expo booth. > > Holly > ---------- > Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD CDE > Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator > Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV > > Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com > 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX > Joint Base Balad, Iraq (Jan-Jul 2009) > > From: <maryebailey@... <mailto:maryebailey%40gmail.com> <mailto:maryebailey%40gmail.com> > > >To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 12:06 PM > >Subject: Dr. Mercola on FNCE > > > >Not a new complaint, but an interesting read nonetheless. I'd love to know > >your thoughts... > > > >http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/10/how-ada-are-manip\ ulated-by-food-industry.aspx?e_cid=20111010_DNL_art_3 > > > >The American Dietetic Association's (ADA) annual conference is often called > > " the world's largest meeting of food and nutrition experts. " According to > >the ADA, the conference brings together " more than 10,000 registered > >dietitians, nutrition science researchers, policy makers, health-care > >providers and industry leaders to address key issues affecting the health of > >America. " > > > >Interestingly though they never invited me or anyone that I recognize as a > >true expert in the use of diet to optimize human health to their conference. > > > >It is unclear how a conference that features exhibits by Coca-Cola, General > >Mills, and other processed food and junk-food giants could ever make a > >positive impact on Americans' health. > > > >Ditto for some of their presentations, such as one titled " A Fresh Look At > >Processed Foods, " presented by a 15-year Kellogg's veteran and an employee > >of the International Food Information Council, which according to > >Grist<http://www.grist.org/food/2011-09-26-pay-to-play-with-the-ada>has > >representatives from Dannon Co., General Mills, Kraft Foods, PepsiCo, > >and Mars, Inc. on its board of trustees. > > > >The speakers actually gave the message that processed foods are an important > >part of the American diet to be consumed along with fresh produce! > > > >This message is obviously not intended to help Americans' health, but rather > >pad the pockets of the processed food industry. Surprised that the ADA would > >be sending such a message? > > > >Don't be … > > > >(more at the link) > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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