Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 It's recommended to get no more than 350mg of magnesium in supplement form - more can have a laxative effect eg. milk of magnesia. Neily, MS, RD, CSSD, LD Registered and Licensed Dietitian Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics Nutrition Consultant to Meals to Live, LLC www.mealstolive.com  Website: www.jenniferneily.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/Neily Facebook! www.facebook.com/NeilyonNutrition ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 1.   http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/20/11/2291.long J. ,  Esther A. Gonzálezand Slatopolsky, Clinical Consequences and Management of Hypomagnesemia,  doi: 10.1681/ASN.2007111194 (JASN November 1, 2009 vol. 20 no. 11 2291-2295) 8. http://www.ijkd.org/index.php/ijkd/article/view/140 Assadi, F., Hypomagnesemia, An Evidence-Based Approach to Clinical Cases, (Iranian Journal of Kidney Diseases, Vol 4, No 1 (2010) if you are interested in helping chronically ill clients improve their health, I would encourage consulting a Nephrologist or two, instead of repeating the " Upper Limits " that were last truly assessed in 1997 and if you skip the Executive summary of that report and actually read the magnesium research that is cited the only thing the upper limit was based on was the diarrhea and the wording repeatedly shows that studies on foods with added magnesium did not cause diarrhea. It is a smooth muscle relaxation effect by the soluble ion actually triggering the bowels to relax. a magnesium glycinate supplement seems less likely to cause loose stools. Smaller amounts with food is less likely to trigger the -short term- loose stool effect. not a poison - a pain killer - not a death sentence - a quality of life gift 18 B. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20081245 Magdalena Bujalska, Helena Makulska-Nowak, Stanis³aw W. Gumuka Magnesium ions and opioid agonistsin vincristine-induced neuropathy , Department of Pharmacodynamics, Medical University of Warsaw, Krakowskie Przedmieoecie 26/28, PL 00-927 Warszawa, Poland 19 B. Magnesium: an emerging drug in anaesthesia, , Editorial I, M. F. M. , British Journal of Anaesthesia, 103 (4): 465-7 (2009) DOI:10.1093/bja/aep242 why is magnesium being treated like a drug and given out in miserly 30 mg iv doses to boost opioid medication efficacy in diabetic patients that opioid medications don't work for otherwise but the magnesium alone did work for - oh maybe they are drug pushers perhaps and really want to sell opioid drugs. Medical field after all is selling medicine. and not food or healthcare. I know that dietitians don't really count for much but if you would acre for a dietitian's sloppy opinion then these links cluster most of my gatherings on the topic of safe use of magnesium and how to actually get it to stay in the person that you care about - because otherwise it just is pouring on through with the health shakes. http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/03/hypomagnesemia-symptoms-and-causes-list.h\ tml http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/12/medical-hypothesis-re-autism.html why is it okay that IV of 100,000 IU vitamin D is injected in people by caring physician's but we quibble over a little loose stool. If you want to repeat government guidelines and skip individual counseling considerations, then simply go to the mypyramid.gov website - skip the university degree - save yourself some time - it covers the basics very well  R Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 4:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 1.   http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/20/11/2291.long J. ,  Esther A. Gonzálezand Slatopolsky, Clinical Consequences and Management of Hypomagnesemia,  doi: 10.1681/ASN.2007111194 (JASN November 1, 2009 vol. 20 no. 11 2291-2295) 8. http://www.ijkd.org/index.php/ijkd/article/view/140 Assadi, F., Hypomagnesemia, An Evidence-Based Approach to Clinical Cases, (Iranian Journal of Kidney Diseases, Vol 4, No 1 (2010) if you are interested in helping chronically ill clients improve their health, I would encourage consulting a Nephrologist or two, instead of repeating the " Upper Limits " that were last truly assessed in 1997 and if you skip the Executive summary of that report and actually read the magnesium research that is cited the only thing the upper limit was based on was the diarrhea and the wording repeatedly shows that studies on foods with added magnesium did not cause diarrhea. It is a smooth muscle relaxation effect by the soluble ion actually triggering the bowels to relax. a magnesium glycinate supplement seems less likely to cause loose stools. Smaller amounts with food is less likely to trigger the -short term- loose stool effect. not a poison - a pain killer - not a death sentence - a quality of life gift 18 B. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20081245 Magdalena Bujalska, Helena Makulska-Nowak, Stanis³aw W. Gumuka Magnesium ions and opioid agonistsin vincristine-induced neuropathy , Department of Pharmacodynamics, Medical University of Warsaw, Krakowskie Przedmieoecie 26/28, PL 00-927 Warszawa, Poland 19 B. Magnesium: an emerging drug in anaesthesia, , Editorial I, M. F. M. , British Journal of Anaesthesia, 103 (4): 465-7 (2009) DOI:10.1093/bja/aep242 why is magnesium being treated like a drug and given out in miserly 30 mg iv doses to boost opioid medication efficacy in diabetic patients that opioid medications don't work for otherwise but the magnesium alone did work for - oh maybe they are drug pushers perhaps and really want to sell opioid drugs. Medical field after all is selling medicine. and not food or healthcare. I know that dietitians don't really count for much but if you would acre for a dietitian's sloppy opinion then these links cluster most of my gatherings on the topic of safe use of magnesium and how to actually get it to stay in the person that you care about - because otherwise it just is pouring on through with the health shakes. http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/03/hypomagnesemia-symptoms-and-causes-list.h\ tml http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/12/medical-hypothesis-re-autism.html why is it okay that IV of 100,000 IU vitamin D is injected in people by caring physician's but we quibble over a little loose stool. If you want to repeat government guidelines and skip individual counseling considerations, then simply go to the mypyramid.gov website - skip the university degree - save yourself some time - it covers the basics very well  R Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 4:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 1.   http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/20/11/2291.long J. ,  Esther A. Gonzálezand Slatopolsky, Clinical Consequences and Management of Hypomagnesemia,  doi: 10.1681/ASN.2007111194 (JASN November 1, 2009 vol. 20 no. 11 2291-2295) 8. http://www.ijkd.org/index.php/ijkd/article/view/140 Assadi, F., Hypomagnesemia, An Evidence-Based Approach to Clinical Cases, (Iranian Journal of Kidney Diseases, Vol 4, No 1 (2010) if you are interested in helping chronically ill clients improve their health, I would encourage consulting a Nephrologist or two, instead of repeating the " Upper Limits " that were last truly assessed in 1997 and if you skip the Executive summary of that report and actually read the magnesium research that is cited the only thing the upper limit was based on was the diarrhea and the wording repeatedly shows that studies on foods with added magnesium did not cause diarrhea. It is a smooth muscle relaxation effect by the soluble ion actually triggering the bowels to relax. a magnesium glycinate supplement seems less likely to cause loose stools. Smaller amounts with food is less likely to trigger the -short term- loose stool effect. not a poison - a pain killer - not a death sentence - a quality of life gift 18 B. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20081245 Magdalena Bujalska, Helena Makulska-Nowak, Stanis³aw W. Gumuka Magnesium ions and opioid agonistsin vincristine-induced neuropathy , Department of Pharmacodynamics, Medical University of Warsaw, Krakowskie Przedmieoecie 26/28, PL 00-927 Warszawa, Poland 19 B. Magnesium: an emerging drug in anaesthesia, , Editorial I, M. F. M. , British Journal of Anaesthesia, 103 (4): 465-7 (2009) DOI:10.1093/bja/aep242 why is magnesium being treated like a drug and given out in miserly 30 mg iv doses to boost opioid medication efficacy in diabetic patients that opioid medications don't work for otherwise but the magnesium alone did work for - oh maybe they are drug pushers perhaps and really want to sell opioid drugs. Medical field after all is selling medicine. and not food or healthcare. I know that dietitians don't really count for much but if you would acre for a dietitian's sloppy opinion then these links cluster most of my gatherings on the topic of safe use of magnesium and how to actually get it to stay in the person that you care about - because otherwise it just is pouring on through with the health shakes. http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/03/hypomagnesemia-symptoms-and-causes-list.h\ tml http://gingerjens.blogspot.com/2011/12/medical-hypothesis-re-autism.html why is it okay that IV of 100,000 IU vitamin D is injected in people by caring physician's but we quibble over a little loose stool. If you want to repeat government guidelines and skip individual counseling considerations, then simply go to the mypyramid.gov website - skip the university degree - save yourself some time - it covers the basics very well  R Vajda, R.D. www.GingerJens.com ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 4:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think if you look cafefully and read ant very well it is about 1600 mg in 2 tablespoons. A teaspoon will cover any magnisuim supplemental needs and not cause distress. It is also avery good antiacid.  Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:58 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  the dose on Milk of Magnesia is far, far more than 350 mg however - two tablespoons for an adult - no mg of Magnesium listed  R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  It's recommended to get no more than 350mg of magnesium in supplement form - more can have a laxative effect eg. milk of magnesia. Neily, MS, RD, CSSD, LD Registered and Licensed Dietitian Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics Nutrition Consultant to Meals to Live, LLC www.mealstolive.com  Website: www.jenniferneily.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/Neily Facebook! www.facebook.com/NeilyonNutrition ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I think if you look cafefully and read ant very well it is about 1600 mg in 2 tablespoons. A teaspoon will cover any magnisuim supplemental needs and not cause distress. It is also avery good antiacid.  Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:58 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  the dose on Milk of Magnesia is far, far more than 350 mg however - two tablespoons for an adult - no mg of Magnesium listed  R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  It's recommended to get no more than 350mg of magnesium in supplement form - more can have a laxative effect eg. milk of magnesia. Neily, MS, RD, CSSD, LD Registered and Licensed Dietitian Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics Nutrition Consultant to Meals to Live, LLC www.mealstolive.com  Website: www.jenniferneily.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/Neily Facebook! www.facebook.com/NeilyonNutrition ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Granted, but just for clarification I was just answering the initial question - what is the upper limit for magnesium in supplement form.  The National Academy of Sciences set a tolerable upper limit (UL) on intake of magnesium at 350 milligrams per day for individuals 9 years and older. This limit was restricted, however, to magnesium obtained from dietary supplements, and no upper limit was set on intake of magnesium from food sources.  Obviously I wouldn't consider MOM a supplement. Neily, MS, RD, CSSD, LD Registered and Licensed Dietitian Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics Nutrition Consultant to Meals to Live, LLC www.mealstolive.com  Website: www.jenniferneily.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/Neily Facebook! www.facebook.com/NeilyonNutrition ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:27 AM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  I think if you look cafefully and read ant very well it is about 1600 mg in 2 tablespoons. A teaspoon will cover any magnisuim supplemental needs and not cause distress. It is also avery good antiacid.  Jackie Chase RD Dillingham Ak To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:58 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  the dose on Milk of Magnesia is far, far more than 350 mg however - two tablespoons for an adult - no mg of Magnesium listed  R Vajda, R.D. ________________________________ To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: Re: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  It's recommended to get no more than 350mg of magnesium in supplement form - more can have a laxative effect eg. milk of magnesia. Neily, MS, RD, CSSD, LD Registered and Licensed Dietitian Board Certified Specialist in Sports Dietetics Nutrition Consultant to Meals to Live, LLC www.mealstolive.com  Website: www.jenniferneily.com Twitter: www.twitter.com/Neily Facebook! www.facebook.com/NeilyonNutrition ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 3:38 PM Subject: upper limit for magnesium (supplements)  Can anyone help me to determine the upper limit for magnesium supplements for adults? Thank you so much! Annie Sasseville RD Pediatric RD @ Mile High Climbers Nutrition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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