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Hi Caroline!

Welcome to the group!! You have come to a very caring, supportive environment

filled with wonderful individuals. keeps us updated on latest medical

research and posts great medical information that is very informative and

helpful.

I am 36 and have been being treated for 2 years. I've had CFS since the age of

19, and FMS since the age of 30. It is completely normal to feel malaise and

extreme fatigue with RA. One of the most important things we learn with this

illness is to pace ourselves and not overdo things. To rest when we have to

rest. We are not being lazy simply fighting an illness.

Meloxicam is an NSAID. I started it on March 3rd and only take 7.5mgs. I used

to take 50mgs 2 times a day of diclofenac. It doesn't give me any side effects.

It's just like taking an aspirin for me. Are you on the maximum dose of 15mgs?

I'm not sure if its even helping me at the moment, but I have a liver disease or

diagnosis of hepatitis for unknown reason, so my doctor didn't want me on the

diclofenac.

I am treated with Plaquenil and Sulfasalazine but Methotrexate or Enbrel is my

next step of treatment. There are many here that take methotrexate that will be

able to give you very helpful advice. It is complicated at times, to find the

right drug combination that works for one. The DMARD is very important to take

though as it helps prevent against joint damage and may slow the progression of

the disease.

sistergirlfriend001 <burchall@...> wrote: I

am a 34 year old mother of 2.

I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005 but

then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away completely. I

was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA came

on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night. Then

my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I found a

new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

any of the meds get thru to my son.

Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was high.

I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else feel

like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the pain

isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA? People

are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to keep

my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean and

now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

Methotrexate? Or bad?

I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want to

complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

Caroline

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i had to stop methoxerate due to stomach problems.humira is a life saver for

me.  i take it weekly. i also take prednisone for flares.  and i too feel lazy

every day.  get tired so easily. rita

[ ] Into & questions re: Meloxicam, Methotrexate & feeling

lazy

I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005 but

then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away completely. I

was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA came

on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night. Then

my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I found a

new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

any of the meds get thru to my son.

Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was high.

I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else feel

like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the pain

isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA? People

are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to keep

my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean and

now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

Methotrexate? Or bad?

I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want to

complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

Caroline

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Caroline,

I am currently taking 4 mtx a week with absolutely no problem whatsoever. Some

people have problems and some have none, hopefully you'll be in the none group,

here's hoping. You should also get a script for folic acid when he perscribes

the mtx. mary in pa

[ ] Into & questions re: Meloxicam, Methotrexate & feeling

lazy

I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005 but

then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away completely. I

was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA came

on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night. Then

my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I found a

new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

any of the meds get thru to my son.

Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was high.

I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else feel

like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the pain

isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA? People

are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to keep

my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean and

now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

Methotrexate? Or bad?

I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want to

complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

Caroline

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Hi caroline,

I don't post much, but I was on Sulfasalazine, hydroxychloroquine

and celebrex for my RA. I have had it now for 6 years. I just went

off of everything in prep for trying to get pregnant. I am a high

risk for loosing pregnancy but it not b/c of RA. It's just a

precaution. I am/was alright but my rheumy was seriously

condsidering Mexthotrexate(Sp?) Heck I was scared after reading all

the things about RA and the drugs to treat it. I am 31 and still have

a great many years to go with kids hopefully in the picture. We will

see. Goodluck! I would try and half my dose 2x a day if it makes you

seriuosly loopy. but ask DR 1st. GOODLUCK!

>

> Caroline,

>

> I am currently taking 4 mtx a week with absolutely no problem

whatsoever. Some people have problems and some have none, hopefully

you'll be in the none group, here's hoping. You should also get a

script for folic acid when he perscribes the mtx. mary in pa

> [ ] Into & questions re: Meloxicam,

Methotrexate & feeling lazy

>

>

> I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

>

> I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early

2005 but

> then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away

completely. I

> was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and

at

> that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

> night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA

came

> on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

> was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night.

Then

> my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I

found a

> new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to

think

> about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

>

> I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

> fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

> take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

> breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I

couldn't

> wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

> any of the meds get thru to my son.

>

> Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was

high.

> I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else

feel

> like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

> night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

> this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the

pain

> isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will

wait

> until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

> afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

>

> My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA?

People

> are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to

keep

> my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

> when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was

clean and

> now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

>

> It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need

to

> take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

> hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

> while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

> Methotrexate? Or bad?

>

> I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't

want to

> complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for

support.

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I just joined this group and already I have a very favorable impression. I

was diagnosed with lupus arthritis in October 2007 (probably had it long

before); and I have had fibromyalgia since 1984. I am retired and 70 yrs.

old. I am quite active as I fight my illness but lately have to gear down

as the flares come on quickly when I have overdone it.

Best wishes to all-Cheryl, Santa Barbara

Re: [ ] Into & questions re: Meloxicam, Methotrexate &

feeling lazy

> Hi Caroline!

> Welcome to the group!! You have come to a very caring, supportive

> environment filled with wonderful individuals. keeps us updated on

> latest medical research and posts great medical information that is very

> informative and helpful.

>

> I am 36 and have been being treated for 2 years. I've had CFS since the

> age of 19, and FMS since the age of 30. It is completely normal to feel

> malaise and extreme fatigue with RA. One of the most important things we

> learn with this illness is to pace ourselves and not overdo things. To

> rest when we have to rest. We are not being lazy simply fighting an

> illness.

>

> Meloxicam is an NSAID. I started it on March 3rd and only take 7.5mgs. I

> used to take 50mgs 2 times a day of diclofenac. It doesn't give me any

> side effects. It's just like taking an aspirin for me. Are you on the

> maximum dose of 15mgs? I'm not sure if its even helping me at the moment,

> but I have a liver disease or diagnosis of hepatitis for unknown reason,

> so my doctor didn't want me on the diclofenac.

>

> I am treated with Plaquenil and Sulfasalazine but Methotrexate or Enbrel

> is my next step of treatment. There are many here that take methotrexate

> that will be able to give you very helpful advice. It is complicated at

> times, to find the right drug combination that works for one. The DMARD

> is very important to take though as it helps prevent against joint damage

> and may slow the progression of the disease.

>

>

>

> sistergirlfriend001 <burchall@...> wrote:

> I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

>

> I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005 but

> then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away completely. I

> was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

> that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

> night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA came

> on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

> was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night. Then

> my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I found a

> new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

> about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

>

> I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

> fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

> take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

> breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

> wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

> any of the meds get thru to my son.

>

> Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was high.

> I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else feel

> like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

> night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

> this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the pain

> isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

> until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

> afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

>

> My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA? People

> are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to keep

> my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

> when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean and

> now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

>

> It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

> take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

> hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

> while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

> Methotrexate? Or bad?

>

> I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want to

> complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> now.

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HI CAROLINE,WELCOME! FIRST I WANT TO SAY I LOVE YOUR E-MAIL NAME. ME & MY

SISTERS CALL EACH OTHER SISTERGIRL ALL THE TIME!! TOO FUNNY I THOUGHT I WOULD

SHARE IT WITH YOU. ANYWAY BACK TO RA, IM 38 & A MOTHER OF 1. YOU ARE RIGHT RA

DOES MAKE YOU TIRED ITS NOT LAZINESS... MY HUSBAND THINKS IM PRETENDING

SOMETIMES & IT MAKES ME MAD.. WHEN I WAS PREGNANT I FELT AWESOME BUT WHEN MY

DAUGHTER WAS BORN, IT CAME BACK FULL ON & I WAS IN MAJOR PAIN. I WAS TAKING OFF

ALL MY MEDS WHEN PG SO THE BABY WOULD NOT BE HARMED & I DID GREAT! I HAVE NEVER

HEARD OF MELOXICAM. IS THAT THE BRAND NAME OR GENERIC? I TO TAKE

METHOTREXATE(7PILLS EVERY FRIDAY).IT SEEMS TO HELP SOMEWHAT & YES THEY DO LAB

WORK EVERY TIME I VISIT MY RHEUMMY & MY PCP. IM TAKEN WELL CARE OF IN THE

SPARKLING CITY BY THE SEA!! I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER & THAT THE MEDS HELP WITH THE

PAIN. GOD BLESS,MELYNDAGAMEZ 4/25/08 8:10P.M.CENTRAL TIME

[ ] Into & questions re: Meloxicam, Methotrexate & feeling

lazy

I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005 but

then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away completely.  I

was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

that time I was still fine..  No RA.  Then when I weaned my son from

night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA came

on with a vengeance.  ( I think there is a hormonal link)  First it

was my jaws.  I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night.  Then

my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers.  I found a

new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug. 

I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

fully wean my son from breastfeeding.  Finally yesterday I couldn't

take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

breakfast.  The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

wait.  So that's it for the breastfeeding.  It would be wrong to let

any of the meds get thru to my son.

Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was high.

I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open.  Does anyone else feel

like that?  Will that go away?  Also I was dripping wet in bed last

night.  That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy.  Is

this a really hard drug I am on?  This morning when I woke up the pain

isn't so bad so the drug must still be working.  I think I will wait

until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA?  People

are always telling me to fight my laziness.  I find it so hard to keep

my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids.  But

when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean and

now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean. 

It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long.  Next I need to

take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week.  I'm scared because I

hear it is a really harsh drug.  They will be monitoring my liver

while I'm on it.  Anyone have good things to tell me about

Methotrexate?  Or bad?

I feel so isolated with RA.  No one understands me and I don't want to

complain all the time.  It's so nice to find this group for support.

Caroline

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I don't know about MELOXICAM, but if it's an NSAID that should not

wipe you out from my experience with NSAIDs. What makes one

tired/lazy is the RA. You spend a LOT of energy fighting the pain!!

MTX has benefits that often outweigh the rare side effects/risks. I

take injectable (equivalent to 8 pills) because it's easier on my

stomach (some of my other meds work the same on my stomach.) I have a

little hair loss going on, but thats it.

Welcome to the group, we all have times of difficulty where we need

to vent.

>

> I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

>

> I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005

but

> then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away

completely. I

> was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

> that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

> night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA

came

> on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

> was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night.

Then

> my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I

found a

> new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

> about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

>

> I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

> fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

> take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

> breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

> wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

> any of the meds get thru to my son.

>

> Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was

high.

> I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else

feel

> like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

> night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

> this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the

pain

> isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

> until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

> afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

>

> My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA?

People

> are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to

keep

> my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

> when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean

and

> now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

>

> It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

> take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

> hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

> while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

> Methotrexate? Or bad?

>

> I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want

to

> complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

>

> Caroline

>

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Hi Caroline!

This is only the 2nd time I've posted but wanted to share my feelings

about Methotrexate. I take 6 pills per day once a week and Folic

acid to prevent side effects from the Methotrexate.

I've been on it for 6 months now and I'm not sure it is working as

I'm still having lots of stiffness, pain and fatigue. I have RA and

Fibromyalgia, migraines, degenerative disk disease in both cervical

and lumbar regions of the spine, asthma (which began just after being

diagnosed with RA.)

I get " lazy " some days so much that I never get out of bed. I'm

totally exhausted and sleep the entire day!!! Fortunately, my

husband understands as he's also disabled. He just lets me sleep and

says that I must need it.

So don't feel bad about feeling " lazy " or tired. I truly think it is

our body's way of helping us fight this disease and allow the meds to

work.

Best wishes to you.

Hugs,

Judy Hyman

>

> I am a 34 year old mother of 2.

>

> I was diagnosed with a really high rheumatoid factor in early 2005

but

> then got pregnant and the symptoms and factor went away

completely. I

> was told to come back when my baby was 3 months old and I did and at

> that time I was still fine. No RA. Then when I weaned my son from

> night nursing this past December I got my period back and the RA

came

> on with a vengeance. ( I think there is a hormonal link) First it

> was my jaws. I thought maybe I was grinding my teeth at night.

Then

> my 3 middle toes (thought it was my ski boots) and fingers. I

found a

> new Rheumatologist and he prescribed MELOXICAM and told me to think

> about METHOTREXATE as a second line drug.

>

> I filled the prescription but put it off as I wasn't ready yet to

> fully wean my son from breastfeeding. Finally yesterday I couldn't

> take the pain for another second and took the MELOXICAM with my

> breakfast. The prescription said to take with supper but I couldn't

> wait. So that's it for the breastfeeding. It would be wrong to let

> any of the meds get thru to my son.

>

> Yesterday I took 1 pill (15 MG) of MELOXICAM and I swear I was

high.

> I couldn't move, I couldn't keep my eyes open. Does anyone else

feel

> like that? Will that go away? Also I was dripping wet in bed last

> night. That never happens to me but I was sweating like crazy. Is

> this a really hard drug I am on? This morning when I woke up the

pain

> isn't so bad so the drug must still be working. I think I will wait

> until supper today as I have errands to run with my kids this

> afternoon and don't want to be driving around all messed up.

>

> My other question is that does anyone else feel lazy from RA?

People

> are always telling me to fight my laziness. I find it so hard to

keep

> my house organized and keep on top of the mess from the kids. But

> when I was in so much pain the last thing I wanted to do was clean

and

> now with this Meloxicam I feel too mellow to clean.

>

> It feels incredible to not be in pain after so long. Next I need to

> take the METHOTREXATE 4 X 2.5MG once a week. I'm scared because I

> hear it is a really harsh drug. They will be monitoring my liver

> while I'm on it. Anyone have good things to tell me about

> Methotrexate? Or bad?

>

> I feel so isolated with RA. No one understands me and I don't want

to

> complain all the time. It's so nice to find this group for support.

>

> Caroline

>

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