Re: New onset ANGRY outbursts in a 60 y/o male

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Thanks everybody.

Just an update. He went back to his doc, maybe even got a new one - being

" in tears " the health care team he's worked with all agreed this " was not

him " - so they upped his Xanax. Sigh. . . I won't say more about that. (He

was on a minimal dose -they'll give him a few days and check response.)

His father died of a brain tumor in the past year, I think they ruled that

out for him. Ruled out early Alzheimers and dementia as best they could.

I think they need to dig further on the PTSD, depression (current

relationship meltdown+father's death in past year+caring for formerly severely

abusive mother with psych issues) and hormone levels. I also think low blood

sugar was R/O. Maybe chemical exposure as well - he's the " house cleaner " and

his sister is very chemical sensitive.

Full combo likely. Thanks again.

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Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:44 pm (PST)

I'd be looking for a brain tumor or SDH (subdural hemorrhage) if it's not

PTSD.

Holly

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A 42 year old athlete friend of mine had similar symptoms (low libido, grumpy,

tired, etc) and came to find out he had a pituitary tumor that lowered his

testosterone to the level of a 100 year old man. I'd suggest a CT scan or at

least a retest on the testosterone level.

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> Any ideas about a 60 y/o guy that was never a nasty person.

> (For example he made a huge scene yesterday at a grocery store because a

> clerk sent him down the wrong aisle twice. Even it scared/surprised him in

> retrospect.)

>

> In the past year, he's had issues of extreme angry outbursts. (His abusive

> father passed away in May of last year of brain cancer - but he wasn't

> having angry outbursts then.)

>

> Diet and exercise/lifestyle hasn't changed significantly except for getting

> out of a bad 3 year relationship (but has often had relationships that

> turn bad, but not due to anger issues).

>

> Takes a good variety of supplements, B-vitamins, etc. Basic blood levels

> normal. Only cholesterol very mildly elevated. Thyroid levels " standard

> normal " but I think his testoserone levels are borderline low - oh, said his

> libido has plummeted, but also dealing with breakup again.

>

> Docs and psych have examined him and can't give him any ideas - said they

> don't know what's up.

>

> Even with drinking - he turns into a lovey, sleepy guy and goes to bed.

>

> Has always been ADD and dyslexia - but never on meds for these. Does take

> depression meds but never dx with bipolar and doesn't have the highs and

> crashes of bi-polar.

>

> Intelligent guy. Authority issues. Mostly works for himself most of his

> life (or doesn't work). Grew up in a wealthy but highly abusive home.

>

> He wants to know " Why am I NOW getting so angry over little things when

> I've never been like this before? "

>

> Anyway. This is what his SISTER has told me (she's a dear new friend - I

> don't know her brother) because she speaks by phone often with her brother.

>

> Sounds like hormone changes? Or exacerbated PTSD? He IS working with a

> psychiatrist.

>

> He's wondering IS this psych? (With such new onset) Or something more

> physical related?

>

> Specific ideas welcome.

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

> Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I

> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get

> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email!

>

>

[Guest guest]

A 42 year old athlete friend of mine had similar symptoms (low libido, grumpy,

tired, etc) and came to find out he had a pituitary tumor that lowered his

testosterone to the level of a 100 year old man. I'd suggest a CT scan or at

least a retest on the testosterone level.

Sent from my iPhone

> Any ideas about a 60 y/o guy that was never a nasty person.

> (For example he made a huge scene yesterday at a grocery store because a

> clerk sent him down the wrong aisle twice. Even it scared/surprised him in

> retrospect.)

>

> In the past year, he's had issues of extreme angry outbursts. (His abusive

> father passed away in May of last year of brain cancer - but he wasn't

> having angry outbursts then.)

>

> Diet and exercise/lifestyle hasn't changed significantly except for getting

> out of a bad 3 year relationship (but has often had relationships that

> turn bad, but not due to anger issues).

>

> Takes a good variety of supplements, B-vitamins, etc. Basic blood levels

> normal. Only cholesterol very mildly elevated. Thyroid levels " standard

> normal " but I think his testoserone levels are borderline low - oh, said his

> libido has plummeted, but also dealing with breakup again.

>

> Docs and psych have examined him and can't give him any ideas - said they

> don't know what's up.

>

> Even with drinking - he turns into a lovey, sleepy guy and goes to bed.

>

> Has always been ADD and dyslexia - but never on meds for these. Does take

> depression meds but never dx with bipolar and doesn't have the highs and

> crashes of bi-polar.

>

> Intelligent guy. Authority issues. Mostly works for himself most of his

> life (or doesn't work). Grew up in a wealthy but highly abusive home.

>

> He wants to know " Why am I NOW getting so angry over little things when

> I've never been like this before? "

>

> Anyway. This is what his SISTER has told me (she's a dear new friend - I

> don't know her brother) because she speaks by phone often with her brother.

>

> Sounds like hormone changes? Or exacerbated PTSD? He IS working with a

> psychiatrist.

>

> He's wondering IS this psych? (With such new onset) Or something more

> physical related?

>

> Specific ideas welcome.

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

> DineRight4@...

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

> Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I

> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get

> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email!

>

>