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Hi Kathy,

I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a tricky

question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS cases anywhere

for statistical data, it really isn't known. The youngest reported is 20 if you

are talking about the adult onset.

It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will start some

kind of statistical records.

I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could imagine the

other way around happening. Can they do anything to help the spine from

deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

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,

Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I was 15 years

old when my 'complications' started. They thought that maybe I had MS because I

had a second cousin who was diagnosed with MS. In the end they called it spastic

paraparesis. In 1997, my current neurologist gave me a diagnosis of PLS. Also,

my spine is deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis in

1998. In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the rod and pins

in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened). It is hard for

me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain belongs to what. Anyway, I

have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide any data?

Thanks. kathy hillary

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Hi Kathy,

I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a tricky

question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS cases anywhere

for statistical data, it really isn't known. The youngest reported is 20 if you

are talking about the adult onset.

It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will start some

kind of statistical records.

I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could imagine the

other way around happening. Can they do anything to help the spine from

deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

Thomson

Solana Beach, Ca

Visit www.als-pls.org

and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

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,

Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I was 15 years

old when my 'complications' started. They thought that maybe I had MS because I

had a second cousin who was diagnosed with MS. In the end they called it spastic

paraparesis. In 1997, my current neurologist gave me a diagnosis of PLS. Also,

my spine is deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis in

1998. In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the rod and pins

in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened). It is hard for

me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain belongs to what. Anyway, I

have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide any data?

Thanks. kathy hillary

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Hi Kathy,

I have several medical journal articles on juvenile onset PLS which

answer your questions. They are not pleasant. Many will find the

following information depressing.

The first article (M.L. Grunnet et al., " Primary Lateral Sclerosis in

a child " , Neurology, 1989;39, 1530-1532.) reports an infant who

developed symptoms between 9 - 10 months of age. Symptoms initially

presented as progressive weakness of his left arm and leg. Symptoms

progressed rapidly. By 14 months of age, he had trouble swallowing,

his gag reflex was difficult to elicit, and he could no longer support

his head. By age 16 months, he became more rigid and weak and could

not lift his head off the bed. He continued to deteriorate...At age

47 months he died of pneumonia.

Drs. Lerman-Sagie et al (in " Infantile Onset of Hereditary Ascending

Spastic Paralysis with Bulbar Involvement " , J. Child Neurol, 1996

Jan;11(1):54-7) report a Kuwaiti family in which 3 sons developed

progressive paralysis of the lower limbs in infancy (11, 11 and 3

months respectively). The oldest boy lost the ability to walk at age

2, and the ability to talk by age 7.

Drs. G.G. Gascon, T. Siddique et al (in Familial Childhood Primary

Lateral Sclerosis with Associated Gaze Paresis " , Neuropediatrics 26

(1995) 313-319.) report 3 children from a Jordanian family with PLS.

The oldest girl had difficulty walking by age 2, stopped walking by

age 3, and began to lose speech by age 10. Her brother began to have

difficulty walking at age 1 and was in a wheelchair at age 7. He

could no longer speak by age 12. His younger brother never could walk

and began to lose his speech at age 2. He speech could not be

understood by age 10.

These juvenile onset PLS cases appear to be very severe. Not only is

onset very early, but progression is rapid.

Mark Weber

> Hi Kathy,

> I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a

tricky question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS

cases anywhere for statistical data, it really isn't known. The

youngest reported is 20 if you are talking about the adult onset.

> It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will

start some kind of statistical records.

> I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could

imagine the other way around happening. Can they do anything to help

the spine from deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

> Thomson

> Solana Beach, Ca

> Visit www.als-pls.org

> and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

>

> Re: Re: MDA

>

>

> ,

> Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I

was 15 years old when my 'complications' started. They thought that

maybe I had MS because I had a second cousin who was diagnosed with

MS. In the end they called it spastic paraparesis. In 1997, my current

neurologist gave me a diagnosis of PLS. Also, my spine is

deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis in 1998.

In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the rod and

pins in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened).

It is hard for me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain

belongs to what. Anyway, I have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

> came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide

any data? Thanks. kathy hillary

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you so much for your research. It is so hard to believe that children

that small should suffer so much. The first time I was in a supply store (for

assist devices) I saw a small walker. I cried for days. Thanks again, kathy

markw732 wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> I have several medical journal articles on juvenile onset PLS which

> answer your questions. They are not pleasant. Many will find the

> following information depressing.

>

> The first article (M.L. Grunnet et al., " Primary Lateral Sclerosis in

> a child " , Neurology, 1989;39, 1530-1532.) reports an infant who

> developed symptoms between 9 - 10 months of age. Symptoms initially

> presented as progressive weakness of his left arm and leg. Symptoms

> progressed rapidly. By 14 months of age, he had trouble swallowing,

> his gag reflex was difficult to elicit, and he could no longer support

> his head. By age 16 months, he became more rigid and weak and could

> not lift his head off the bed. He continued to deteriorate...At age

> 47 months he died of pneumonia.

>

> Drs. Lerman-Sagie et al (in " Infantile Onset of Hereditary Ascending

> Spastic Paralysis with Bulbar Involvement " , J. Child Neurol, 1996

> Jan;11(1):54-7) report a Kuwaiti family in which 3 sons developed

> progressive paralysis of the lower limbs in infancy (11, 11 and 3

> months respectively). The oldest boy lost the ability to walk at age

> 2, and the ability to talk by age 7.

>

> Drs. G.G. Gascon, T. Siddique et al (in Familial Childhood Primary

> Lateral Sclerosis with Associated Gaze Paresis " , Neuropediatrics 26

> (1995) 313-319.) report 3 children from a Jordanian family with PLS.

> The oldest girl had difficulty walking by age 2, stopped walking by

> age 3, and began to lose speech by age 10. Her brother began to have

> difficulty walking at age 1 and was in a wheelchair at age 7. He

> could no longer speak by age 12. His younger brother never could walk

> and began to lose his speech at age 2. He speech could not be

> understood by age 10.

>

> These juvenile onset PLS cases appear to be very severe. Not only is

> onset very early, but progression is rapid.

>

> Mark Weber

>

>

> > Hi Kathy,

> > I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a

> tricky question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS

> cases anywhere for statistical data, it really isn't known. The

> youngest reported is 20 if you are talking about the adult onset.

> > It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will

> start some kind of statistical records.

> > I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could

> imagine the other way around happening. Can they do anything to help

> the spine from deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

> > Thomson

> > Solana Beach, Ca

> > Visit www.als-pls.org

> > and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

> >

> > Re: Re: MDA

> >

> >

> > ,

> > Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I

> was 15 years old when my 'complications' started. They thought that

> maybe I had MS because I had a second cousin who was diagnosed with

> MS. In the end they called it spastic paraparesis. In 1997, my current

> neurologist gave me a diagnosis of PLS. Also, my spine is

> deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis in 1998.

> In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the rod and

> pins in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened).

> It is hard for me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain

> belongs to what. Anyway, I have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

> > came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide

> any data? Thanks. kathy hillary

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you so much for your research. It is so hard to believe that children

that small should suffer so much. The first time I was in a supply store (for

assist devices) I saw a small walker. I cried for days. Thanks again, kathy

markw732 wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

>

> I have several medical journal articles on juvenile onset PLS which

> answer your questions. They are not pleasant. Many will find the

> following information depressing.

>

> The first article (M.L. Grunnet et al., " Primary Lateral Sclerosis in

> a child " , Neurology, 1989;39, 1530-1532.) reports an infant who

> developed symptoms between 9 - 10 months of age. Symptoms initially

> presented as progressive weakness of his left arm and leg. Symptoms

> progressed rapidly. By 14 months of age, he had trouble swallowing,

> his gag reflex was difficult to elicit, and he could no longer support

> his head. By age 16 months, he became more rigid and weak and could

> not lift his head off the bed. He continued to deteriorate...At age

> 47 months he died of pneumonia.

>

> Drs. Lerman-Sagie et al (in " Infantile Onset of Hereditary Ascending

> Spastic Paralysis with Bulbar Involvement " , J. Child Neurol, 1996

> Jan;11(1):54-7) report a Kuwaiti family in which 3 sons developed

> progressive paralysis of the lower limbs in infancy (11, 11 and 3

> months respectively). The oldest boy lost the ability to walk at age

> 2, and the ability to talk by age 7.

>

> Drs. G.G. Gascon, T. Siddique et al (in Familial Childhood Primary

> Lateral Sclerosis with Associated Gaze Paresis " , Neuropediatrics 26

> (1995) 313-319.) report 3 children from a Jordanian family with PLS.

> The oldest girl had difficulty walking by age 2, stopped walking by

> age 3, and began to lose speech by age 10. Her brother began to have

> difficulty walking at age 1 and was in a wheelchair at age 7. He

> could no longer speak by age 12. His younger brother never could walk

> and began to lose his speech at age 2. He speech could not be

> understood by age 10.

>

> These juvenile onset PLS cases appear to be very severe. Not only is

> onset very early, but progression is rapid.

>

> Mark Weber

>

>

> > Hi Kathy,

> > I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a

> tricky question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS

> cases anywhere for statistical data, it really isn't known. The

> youngest reported is 20 if you are talking about the adult onset.

> > It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will

> start some kind of statistical records.

> > I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could

> imagine the other way around happening. Can they do anything to help

> the spine from deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

> > Thomson

> > Solana Beach, Ca

> > Visit www.als-pls.org

> > and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

> >

> > Re: Re: MDA

> >

> >

> > ,

> > Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I

> was 15 years old when my 'complications' started. They thought that

> maybe I had MS because I had a second cousin who was diagnosed with

> MS. In the end they called it spastic paraparesis. In 1997, my current

> neurologist gave me a diagnosis of PLS. Also, my spine is

> deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid Arthritis in 1998.

> In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the rod and

> pins in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened).

> It is hard for me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain

> belongs to what. Anyway, I have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

> > came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide

> any data? Thanks. kathy hillary

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

There is nothing they can do for the deterioration. My neurologist does

monitor it but he already told me there is nothing that can be done to stop the

deterioration. It is also hard to know what started first for me, the

deterioration or the PLS. If PLS is what I have. I read the information sent to

me regarding HSP/PLS chart. Like I said, at first they thought I had MS but were

doubtful as I was only 15. The hospital in Madison, WI (it's a research

hospital) some doctors felt it was MS, others didn't. When I went to Scripps in

La Jolla, CA, the doctor there said it definitly wasn't MS. I also went to

Cedars in LA but can't remember what they decided. So, I guess in the

end it doesn't really matter 'cuz there is nothing they can do to turn back the

hands of time. Will go as cheerfully as possible into an uncertain future.

Thanks for the info. kathy

Thomson wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

> I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a tricky

question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS cases anywhere

for statistical data, it really isn't known. The youngest reported is 20 if you

are talking about the adult onset.

> It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will start some

kind of statistical records.

> I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could imagine the

other way around happening. Can they do anything to help the spine from

deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

> Thomson

> Solana Beach, Ca

> Visit www.als-pls.org

> and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

>

> Re: Re: MDA

>

> ,

> Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I was 15

years old when my 'complications' started. They thought that maybe I had MS

because I had a second cousin who was diagnosed with MS. In the end they called

it spastic paraparesis. In 1997, my current neurologist gave me a diagnosis of

PLS. Also, my spine is deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid

Arthritis in 1998. In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the

rod and pins in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened). It

is hard for me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain belongs to what.

Anyway, I have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

> came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide any data?

Thanks. kathy hillary

>

>

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Hi ,

There is nothing they can do for the deterioration. My neurologist does

monitor it but he already told me there is nothing that can be done to stop the

deterioration. It is also hard to know what started first for me, the

deterioration or the PLS. If PLS is what I have. I read the information sent to

me regarding HSP/PLS chart. Like I said, at first they thought I had MS but were

doubtful as I was only 15. The hospital in Madison, WI (it's a research

hospital) some doctors felt it was MS, others didn't. When I went to Scripps in

La Jolla, CA, the doctor there said it definitly wasn't MS. I also went to

Cedars in LA but can't remember what they decided. So, I guess in the

end it doesn't really matter 'cuz there is nothing they can do to turn back the

hands of time. Will go as cheerfully as possible into an uncertain future.

Thanks for the info. kathy

Thomson wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

> I tried to find out last weekend on the youngest PLS onset. It is a tricky

question as there is juvenile onset. Since nobody reports PLS cases anywhere

for statistical data, it really isn't known. The youngest reported is 20 if you

are talking about the adult onset.

> It is all a big question mark at this time. Maybe soon they will start some

kind of statistical records.

> I've never heard of PLS causing spine deterioration. But I could imagine the

other way around happening. Can they do anything to help the spine from

deteriorating more? Is it a bone density issue?

> Thomson

> Solana Beach, Ca

> Visit www.als-pls.org

> and www.geocities.com/mdmfoo/pls.html

>

> Re: Re: MDA

>

> ,

> Can you tell me what, if known, is the youngest PLS onset? I was 15

years old when my 'complications' started. They thought that maybe I had MS

because I had a second cousin who was diagnosed with MS. In the end they called

it spastic paraparesis. In 1997, my current neurologist gave me a diagnosis of

PLS. Also, my spine is deteriorating; I received a diagnosis of Rheumatoid

Arthritis in 1998. In 1989, I broke my leg in two places and still have the

rod and pins in the leg (I wasn't even having a good time when it happened). It

is hard for me and maybe unnecessary to distinguish what pain belongs to what.

Anyway, I have always wondered if the deteriorating spine

> came first or the PLS or are they the same thing. Can you provide any data?

Thanks. kathy hillary

>

>

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