Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 don't they use mtx to induce abortions in cases where the embryo is not viable? I guess they do not want you to go through a miscarriage or such? just my guess? amber **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Mandi, the drs are concerned b/c mtx is a class X drug when it comes to pregnancy. It's the same as acutane in which dr's require strict contraception if they're going to prescribe a drug in that class. A baby exposed to mtx during critical periods of development is at risk for profound birth defects and disability. I'm sorry your doc came across harshly, but given the risks, they have to communicate that it is a critical issue. [ ] MTX & Forced Birth Control Hi everyone I wanted to run something by you all and see if you have been told something similar. When I was first put on MTX in February I was told very clearly " do not get pregnant while taking MTX " and all the other warnings that come with the drug and that was it. Do to a language barrier I had to switch to a new RU in March who I thought jokingly wrote a script stating " NO sex " . According to my new doctor a condom is not adequate protection while on MTX. He will no longer prescribe me MTX unless I begin taking birth control pills. I guess what I'm getting at here is I felt like I was being scolded like a school girl (I'm 31 married with a 2 year old) and I believe perfectly capable of preventing pregnancy. Am I missing something from his point of view? Mandi Florida ************ **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food. aol.com/dinner- tonight?NCID= aolfod0003000000 0001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Mandi, I was told this also. I was 43 at the time and our family was complete anyway so my husband had a vasectomy to be on the safe side. mary in pa [ ] MTX & Forced Birth Control Hi everyone I wanted to run something by you all and see if you have been told something similar. When I was first put on MTX in February I was told very clearly " do not get pregnant while taking MTX " and all the other warnings that come with the drug and that was it. Do to a language barrier I had to switch to a new RU in March who I thought jokingly wrote a script stating " NO sex " . According to my new doctor a condom is not adequate protection while on MTX. He will no longer prescribe me MTX unless I begin taking birth control pills. I guess what I'm getting at here is I felt like I was being scolded like a school girl (I'm 31 married with a 2 year old) and I believe perfectly capable of preventing pregnancy. Am I missing something from his point of view? Mandi Florida **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Mandi, If you read up on MTX, everything says use a reliable form of BC while on MTX, man or woman. When I was on it, I was on BC and I recall my last RD asking me if I was and then giving me all the warnings. But the original RD who prescribed it never gave me the warnings at all. My guess is that he personally is uncomfortable prescribing a medication that could cause birth defects unless someone is on a form of BC that is 99.9% effective. He probably has a personal stance on abortion and being a contributor towards it. Condoms are less effective than BC, so my guess is that it's a personal thing for him. If you don't want to go on BC and he is unrelenting, you will probably have to find a new RD. I am so sorry about this. Houston, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Mandi, If you read up on MTX, everything says use a reliable form of BC while on MTX, man or woman. When I was on it, I was on BC and I recall my last RD asking me if I was and then giving me all the warnings. But the original RD who prescribed it never gave me the warnings at all. My guess is that he personally is uncomfortable prescribing a medication that could cause birth defects unless someone is on a form of BC that is 99.9% effective. He probably has a personal stance on abortion and being a contributor towards it. Condoms are less effective than BC, so my guess is that it's a personal thing for him. If you don't want to go on BC and he is unrelenting, you will probably have to find a new RD. I am so sorry about this. Houston, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mandi, I had to sign some document saying that I was aware of potential birth defects and I wouldn't get pregnant for two years after starting ARAVA. I don't remember such discussion over MTX, but I agree it does feel a little weird to have them refuse to prescribe something unless you are on Birth Control. I think it is their call, though. Maybe each doc has his/her own criteria for prescribing these meds that can cause such devastating birth defects. Funny thing is, my period was late just one time and my husband freaked out so bad he had a vasectomy the following week! That was one worry he just didn't need. Stay Healthy MLH951@... wrote: . --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mandi, I had to sign some document saying that I was aware of potential birth defects and I wouldn't get pregnant for two years after starting ARAVA. I don't remember such discussion over MTX, but I agree it does feel a little weird to have them refuse to prescribe something unless you are on Birth Control. I think it is their call, though. Maybe each doc has his/her own criteria for prescribing these meds that can cause such devastating birth defects. Funny thing is, my period was late just one time and my husband freaked out so bad he had a vasectomy the following week! That was one worry he just didn't need. Stay Healthy MLH951@... wrote: . --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Neither of my doctors ever asked about b/c while I was on MTX. I knew that it is a teratogen, I practice NFP. (yes, I know that it is not 100% effective, but neither is anything else, so no lectures please ;-) I have migraine with brain lesions and stroke symptoms, so I cannot take any hormonal birth control, including the mini-pills, and I have been told not to do depo-provera shots either. When I got the new rheum, I asked not to take MTX when I restarted the Remicade. She (mysteriously) did not put up a fight about it, and I was fine- no extra side effects from the Remicade (which is a category B med). I was off MTX for a year before I got pg again. For me, MTX was a total waste of time, as was the plaquenil. Neither did anything for my symptoms, although my CRP numbers did diminish. I would assume most doctors would be extra cautious, although there are people who have had successful pregnancies even when conception was while on MTX. That said, this guy sounds a bit arrogant. BC pills are not adequate protection, if your definition of adequate is 100%. Nothing is, except abstinence. Maybe he has had a patient get pg on the MTX? That would make him extra skittish. Take care, Di > > Hi everyone I wanted to run something by you all and see if you have been > told something similar. When I was first put on MTX in February I was told > very clearly " do not get pregnant while taking MTX " and all the other warnings > that come with the drug and that was it. > Do to a language barrier I had to switch to a new RU in March who I thought > jokingly wrote a script stating " NO sex " . According to my new doctor a > condom is not adequate protection while on MTX. He will no longer prescribe me > MTX unless I begin taking birth control pills. I guess what I'm getting at > here is I felt like I was being scolded like a school girl (I'm 31 married with > a 2 year old) and I believe perfectly capable of preventing pregnancy. > > Am I missing something from his point of view? > > > Mandi > Florida > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mandi, I've been on MTX since I was a little kid but my RD never gave me a speach about being on BC when I hit puberty. I looked at my rx bottle and it does say not to use if you are pregnant, suspect you are, or are breastfeeding. And that's it. I've never heard any of my docs say anything about it so I was a bit taken a back by your post. I hope you get all this resolved without to much more of an issue. : ) I went to a shrink To analyze my dreams She says it's lack of sex that's bringing me down I went to a whore He said my life's a bore So quit my whining cause it's bringing her down - ¡Basket Case¢ Green Day ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Mandi, I've been on MTX since I was a little kid but my RD never gave me a speach about being on BC when I hit puberty. I looked at my rx bottle and it does say not to use if you are pregnant, suspect you are, or are breastfeeding. And that's it. I've never heard any of my docs say anything about it so I was a bit taken a back by your post. I hope you get all this resolved without to much more of an issue. : ) I went to a shrink To analyze my dreams She says it's lack of sex that's bringing me down I went to a whore He said my life's a bore So quit my whining cause it's bringing her down - ¡Basket Case¢ Green Day ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Hi Mandi! I've not heard anything like that, and I know there are women here that are pregnant and taking medications. I don't recall if anyone is on Methotrexate and pregnant. I do know that Methotrexate or Enbrel is my next step of treatment. I guarantee there will not be any doctor telling me that I must take birth control while taking the medication. I'm 36 and have not been able to take birth control in years as I am hypercoagulative and that could be life threatening for me. Hopefully others here will have some views to share with you... MLH951@... wrote: Hi everyone I wanted to run something by you all and see if you have been told something similar. When I was first put on MTX in February I was told very clearly " do not get pregnant while taking MTX " and all the other warnings that come with the drug and that was it. Do to a language barrier I had to switch to a new RU in March who I thought jokingly wrote a script stating " NO sex " . According to my new doctor a condom is not adequate protection while on MTX. He will no longer prescribe me MTX unless I begin taking birth control pills. I guess what I'm getting at here is I felt like I was being scolded like a school girl (I'm 31 married with a 2 year old) and I believe perfectly capable of preventing pregnancy. Am I missing something from his point of view? Mandi Florida **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 hi mandi, no not at all. this sounds like bull_ _ _ _ to me !! i took mtx until i got pregnant. the other stuff is crazy!! good luck & god bless, melyndagamez 5/6/08 12:45a.m.central time [ ] MTX & Forced Birth Control Hi everyone I wanted to run something by you all and see if you have been told something similar. When I was first put on MTX in February I was told very clearly " do not get pregnant while taking MTX " and all the other warnings that come with the drug and that was it. Do to a language barrier I had to switch to a new RU in March who I thought jokingly wrote a script stating " NO sex " . According to my new doctor a condom is not adequate protection while on MTX. He will no longer prescribe me MTX unless I begin taking birth control pills. I guess what I'm getting at here is I felt like I was being scolded like a school girl (I'm 31 married with a 2 year old) and I believe perfectly capable of preventing pregnancy. Am I missing something from his point of view? Mandi Florida **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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