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Hi Sherry! Geoff Crenshaw here.

I just finished reading your post about your hip. Broken or not the pain

needs to be dealt with and from your description of the swelling, ice

relief, etc., there is something else you can do...

Send your husband to a local health food store that carries homeopathic

remedies. (I would suggest http://www.healingyou.org/ but you need to do

this

ASAP.) Have him buy ARNICA MONTANA in 30c pellets if possible, widely

available brand:

STANDARD HOMEOPATHIC

Tell him, " DO NOT GET A MIX, I.E., ARNICA AND SOMETHING ELSE, ONLY

STRAIGHT ARNICA (AKA: ARNICA MONTANA). " If 30c is not available, 30x

tablets or pellets will do fine. (x/c explained below)

DO NOT GET HERBAL ARNICA!

HOMEOPATHIC ARNICA AND HERBAL ARNICA ARE *NOT* THE SAME!!

(see x/c below)

Keep away from ALL FOOD, ODORS, CAMPHOR -- no perfumes in the area

including perfumed laundry soaps, softening sheets, etc., DO NOT TOUCH

the remedy with your hands or anything -- if you drop one on the floor

throw it away (contaminates). Brush your teeth with WATER ONLY prior to

and for three days after the administration of the remedy, NO MOUTHWASH,

NO TOOTHPASTE, NO " SMELLY " DEODORANTS/ANTIPERSPIRANTS, NO CAFFEINE FOR

AT LEAST FOUR HOURS before starting this and none after at all until all

resolved...

To take the remedy: Poor proper number of tablets

or pellets into the lid of the container;

Open mouth and lift tongue;

Drop remedy under tongue and close container.

Store container away from light and extremes of

temperature.

Allow remedy to dissolve naturally, will be absorbed

under the tongue (tablets fast - pellets slow)

TASTE: Homeopathics of this type use a milk sugar

pellet or tablet as a delivery system. Even lactose

intolerant people do not normally have any issues

with the vector product.

Avoid CHLORINATED WATER while taking remedies, use

filtered or bottled water.

CAUTION: Caffeine, camphor especially, and other aromatics, cigarette

smoke, etc., antidote homeopathics, as do certain Rx & OTC allopathic

drugs.

When ready to start, if 30x tablets take 4 sublingually (under the

tongue) every 1-2 waking hours for TWO days with breaks for eating; if

30x pellets take 6 the same -- if 30c take same but under the tongue for

ONE day in the same way. BE CAREFUL about your foods - no alcohol, NO

CAFFEINE, NO SPICES (esp. aromatics like garlic, etc.) while you are

using this remedy.

DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE ANY " FLAVORS " STILL IN YOUR MOUTH AFTER

FOOD/SNACKS/ETC. WAIT UNTIL FLAVORS ARE ABSENT.

Next, same amount but every 4 hours both types same... if 30x take for

two weeks, if 30c 5 days.

Arnica influences the body to reabsorb the blood from the tissues in the

area, relieve the bruising, swelling and pain. It is not unusual to see

Arnica properly administered reduce trauma healing time for soft tissues

by 50-80%, depending mostly on how soon after injury it is administered

and how severe the injury. (In more sever injuries, like what you

describe, it is still useful even this late - for mere minor bruises it

would not be.)

If bone is broken, there is another remedy to follow-on.

FYI: In the future anytime you take a bang, fall or other sort of

trauma, ARNICA is a magnificent first-line defense (including stroke).

x/c:

Homeopathic preparations are " potentized " by dilution and mixture.

A 30x remedy has been mixed 1 part product to 10 parts dillutant

(normally sterile water) as follows:

1:10, then from that take 1 part & mix w/ 10 parts dillutant

1:10, then from that take 1 part & mix w/ 10 parts dillutant

1:10, then from that take 1 part & mix w/ 10 parts dillutant

to the 30th time

a 30c remedy (stronger) has been mixed 1 part product to 100 parts

dillutant in the same manner.

As you can easily see, by the time of the final remedy you are

below molecular levels into the realm of particle physics. Obviously

this is very different than herbs (grams of product) or Rx/OTC drugs

(milligrams), It is also what gave rise to virulent opposition to

Homeopathic remedies by Allopaths in days gone by... today the

younger Allopaths have access to new scientific discoveries &

theories (like particle physics) and they tend to be more open to

the realities & feasibility of the remedies.

FYI: Arnica is one of the very few remedies you can safely recommend

out of hand for trauma -- others really must be tailored to the

individual considering all three states of the person: mental,

emotional & physical

HTH

Oh - one other thing. Sounds like you need to bite the bullet and get

that hip x-rayed, either by an Allopath, chiropractor, Osteopath or

" other " . If that hip's broken, you're going to need some pretty specific

care for it.

Regards, -----------------------

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Cooky wrote:

> Mark if I change shoes or inserts I get that kind of problem and as

> you said it goes away on its own...usually when I go back to the old

> shoes. I change shoes often being a woman and it always happens.

Interesting point. I was just discussing that with my wife. I had been

wearing my running shoes with orthotics quite a bit recently, then in the

last x number of days, due to the extreme cold weather, i've been inside

wearing my Birkies a lot more. Maybe the difference in tilt did it. Guess

I'll pop some ibuprofen for awhile and put a heating pad on it and see if

that will help to calm it down some and in the meantime, I'll put my running

shoes back on. :)

Mark

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-Hi Mark,

I can get away from wearing the orthotics for awhile but it alays

affects me.

I know that the cold does not helpas well.

Seems those feet have a lot to do with knees, hips and spine.

Marge

-- In rheumatic , " Mark Holmes " <mholmes@n...> wrote:

> Cooky wrote:

> > Mark if I change shoes or inserts I get that kind of problem and

as

> > you said it goes away on its own...usually when I go back to the

old

> > shoes. I change shoes often being a woman and it always happens.

>

>

> Interesting point. I was just discussing that with my wife. I had

been

> wearing my running shoes with orthotics quite a bit recently, then

in the

> last x number of days, due to the extreme cold weather, i've been

inside

> wearing my Birkies a lot more. Maybe the difference in tilt did

it. Guess

> I'll pop some ibuprofen for awhile and put a heating pad on it and

see if

> that will help to calm it down some and in the meantime, I'll put

my running

> shoes back on. :)

>

> Mark

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Dear Mark,

I have not got RA, but chronic Lyme. I was suffering from severe hip joint

pain and weakness. Then I went on the Hallelujah diet 3 years ago. Within

3 months the hip pain was gone and has not returned. www.hacres.com

hth,

Rosemary.

rheumatic Hip

> Anyone here have a hip get out of whack? About 5 days ago, my hip

> started stabbing me if I turned my leg a certain way. Then my whole

> leg would ache for awhile. I think such a thing has probably happened

> in the past at some time, but has gone away in a few days. I've had

> very little hip involvement with my RA - only a few times in a total

> body flare have I experienced some general aching in my hips, but his

> is different. This is one of those - Ouch! pains. I can walk

> sometimes though and not notice a thing, but then suddenly swing my

> leg in a certain way and zingo.

>

> Just wondered if any of you had had this. I'm trying to think positive

> and not think about bone on bone type things from RA, but am wondering

> what's gonna make this go away now. Hot compresses help? Ice?

>

> Thanks,

> Mark

>

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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>

>

> I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need that thing that

> sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice would be

> appreciated, Thank's.

Yes you need a raised toliet seat. You might be able to get away

with the ring type thing, if you have something to lift yourself up

on, like a sink. Bending forward to get off the toilet is a BUG NO

NO!

Valeri

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Oh yesssssssssssssssssssssssss

Went to a friends for supper last week, since I am on a can now, I forgot about the toilet seat. I come to sit and... no way I could reach down that far...

So yessssssss not only is it recomended, don't think u can get down that far after the surgery.

Carolejarrmatt27 <dkfuller27@...> wrote:

I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need that thing that sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice would be appreciated, Thank's.

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Yes you need the raised toilet seat. I'm at 14 weeks post op and am still trying to get myself down that low. My doctor told me that I still can't go down too low. I also have a bathtub bench to help get in and out of the tub as I don't have a walk-in shower. But I hope to soon be rid of this equipment.jarrmatt27 <dkfuller27@...> wrote:

I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need that thing that sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice would be appreciated, Thank's.

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Hi Jarmatt27,

I had my Hip replacement 4 years ago and a knee replacement 3 years ago both on my right side I tried using a low toilet and it bother my Hip and Knee that I had replace I think the newer operations are working better for people then the ones I had I like to know is how do you use the bathtub bench ? do you use it to get in and out of the tub ? I stand sideways and step over the side of the tub and I hold onto my walker to get out .Well I wish you good luck and a speedy recovery . you have a nice day.

Susie

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Yes you need the raised toilet seat. I'm at 14 weeks post op and am still trying to get myself down that low. My doctor told me that I still can't go down too low. I also have a bathtub bench to help get in and out of the tub as I don't have a walk-in shower. But I hope to soon be rid of this equipment.jarrmatt27 <dkfuller27@...> wrote: I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need that thing that sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice would be appreciated, Thank's.

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HiJarmatt,

I have stopped using my toilet seat now, 10 weeks I used it for..U

do really need it, also a sock aid, and reacher thing to pick stuff

up with..The sock aid is really important so as not to bend past the

90 degrees.

Also it might pay for u to practice getting in and out of bed,

WITHOUT moving ur operated leg..Maybe u can try getting in and out

of the hospital bed on the same side of your own bed at home..To

make it easier.

I had rails put up in my bathroom and toilet to help me.

Read all the posts on here that u can, they are very helpful, and

ask all the questions u want, u get some great answers here.

Good luck

Mark

>

>

> I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need that thing that

> sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice would be

> appreciated, Thank's.

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I second it-- you WILL want a toilet boost seat. Even

with the boost seat it is helpjul to have a walker

standing by to help lift oneselt off the toilet.

The gadget the lets you put your sock on it necessary.

As I say that I recall an incident at the donut shop

when I asked a recent hippie if he had a gadget to let

him put on his sock. He said, " NO, that's the reason

I have a wife. " I could have puked.

I found a long handled pincher called " reacher " very

helpful, too, as it is impossible to reach to the

floor to pick up something.

I am 4 months post op and I still really like my bath

bench with hand held waterpix shower head.

Power to you all. RUTH

--- Carmel Santos <pureenergy7@...> wrote:

> Yes you need the raised toilet seat. I'm at 14

> weeks post op and am still trying to get myself down

> that low. My doctor told me that I still can't go

> down too low. I also have a bathtub bench to help

> get in and out of the tub as I don't have a walk-in

> shower. But I hope to soon be rid of this

> equipment.

>

> jarrmatt27 <dkfuller27@...> wrote:

>

> I'm going in for tlhr April 8th, do I really need

> that thing that

> sit's on the toilet when I get out. Any other advice

> would be

> appreciated, Thank's.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Several warnings in here that experience shows.

1 Don't argue with the doctor - question, but recognise

the training.

2 Pain medication - it seems to be better to have a

little more than a little too little. You need to control

your pain.

3 Take medication as directed. (with milk, after food,

before food, whole - what ever)

4 After such trauma it is to be expected that we will

have some depression. Don't be ashamed of it, report it.

5 Prepare well in advance before the operation.

6 We're human, that is ok. (I still have to remind

myself about things on this list.)

Margaret from Australia

Re: hip

I ditto everything that Peggy said. I sure wish I had had

the

grabber, sock gadget and raised toilet before the surgery.

They

have all made my life much easier.

I had my doc drop my pain meds from percocet to hydrocodone

when he

discharged me and regret it. I think I'm allergic to the

hydrocodone. I think I posted here that I've been in a

depression

and think that drug was mostly responsible. I was having

3-4

migraines every day and was beginning to feel suicidal.

Saturday, I

knew I had a social engagement to go to and would be

sitting still

for 3+hours so I took two pills, then another afterward.

Bad idea

with no food all day. At about 12:30 am I got up from the

couch to

go to bed. I felt dizzy and made it to the doorway of the

kitchen

and lost consciousness. I awoke flat on my back on the

kitchen

floor. The noise woke my wife, who came to help me. I

guess my

operated leg was bent at an odd angle so she straightened

it. I

felt and heard a loud pop, which scared the dickens out of

me.

Sunday I felt fine, but Monday everything hurt. I think I

had

fallen on my left hip <the good one> so that was a blessing

except

it hurt really bad. I also hit my chin, both elbows and

sprained

both ankles. Went to the doc yesterday and had both hips

x-rayed.

I'm happy to report that I didn't damage the new prosthesis

or

fracture the other arthritic hip. What a relief. Just a

warning

folks, make sure you eat when you take those meds. You

don't want

to end up like me.

take care,

dave, 49

THR 01/31/01

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Well said, Margaret. I'll tell you what. I never would have

survived the aftermath of my surgery without the guidance given

here. It is much appreciated.

cheers,

dave

> Several warnings in here that experience shows.

>

> 1 Don't argue with the doctor - question, but recognise

> the training.

>

> 2 Pain medication - it seems to be better to have a

> little more than a little too little. You need to control

> your pain.

>

> 3 Take medication as directed. (with milk, after food,

> before food, whole - what ever)

>

> 4 After such trauma it is to be expected that we will

> have some depression. Don't be ashamed of it, report it.

>

> 5 Prepare well in advance before the operation.

>

> 6 We're human, that is ok. (I still have to remind

> myself about things on this list.)

>

> Margaret from Australia

>

> Re: hip

>

>

>

>

> I ditto everything that Peggy said. I sure wish I had had

> the

> grabber, sock gadget and raised toilet before the surgery.

> They

> have all made my life much easier.

> I had my doc drop my pain meds from percocet to hydrocodone

> when he

> discharged me and regret it. I think I'm allergic to the

> hydrocodone. I think I posted here that I've been in a

> depression

> and think that drug was mostly responsible. I was having

> 3-4

> migraines every day and was beginning to feel suicidal.

> Saturday, I

> knew I had a social engagement to go to and would be

> sitting still

> for 3+hours so I took two pills, then another afterward.

> Bad idea

> with no food all day. At about 12:30 am I got up from the

> couch to

> go to bed. I felt dizzy and made it to the doorway of the

> kitchen

> and lost consciousness. I awoke flat on my back on the

> kitchen

> floor. The noise woke my wife, who came to help me. I

> guess my

> operated leg was bent at an odd angle so she straightened

> it. I

> felt and heard a loud pop, which scared the dickens out of

> me.

> Sunday I felt fine, but Monday everything hurt. I think I

> had

> fallen on my left hip <the good one> so that was a blessing

> except

> it hurt really bad. I also hit my chin, both elbows and

> sprained

> both ankles. Went to the doc yesterday and had both hips

> x-rayed.

> I'm happy to report that I didn't damage the new prosthesis

> or

> fracture the other arthritic hip. What a relief. Just a

> warning

> folks, make sure you eat when you take those meds. You

> don't want

> to end up like me.

> take care,

> dave, 49

> THR 01/31/01

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  • 11 months later...

First off welcome to the boards Monteisus. Congrats on your scheduled surgery date... hope how soon your feeling better & I wish you the best of luck.

As to your question about how long it takes to get back on your feet. Welp... they'll literally have you up the same day if your surgery is earlier enough. As to back to work or "feeling normal" that varies patient per patient. Depends upon how well you stick to your PT and restrictions, how balanced your diet is during your recovery, whether your a smoker, your general health status, age... there is a list of factors which helps and/or henders the recovery process. But also the type of procedure and if it's "average THR" or a more complex one. I had my leg discrepancy corrected during the operation which added sit backs to my recovery and I was 10 months having extreme muscle spasms... by the 12 month I was scheduled for a revision due to complications because my socket would not "stablize".....

You can't get a "time frame" based upon anothers case and it actually be an accurate one. Some I know have returned to driving by the 3rd wk. and back to work by the 8th... while others like myself 3 yrs. later have still not returned to working status and are far from being "pain-free" or "back to normal". Anyone that gives you the "craved in stone" time limit is full of their self. The majority of doctors advise you'll see your implants "fullest potential" between 3~12 months... but truth of the matter is.... patients with more complex operations take much longer to heal. Patients with bone graphes being done for example can be restricted for up to 4 months before their even permitted to start into the PT programs after surgery. On this topic~ your guess is honestly as good if not better then any of ours.... you at least know your case history.

Best of luck 2 ya and well walking~

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I have had RA for 20 years. All of a sudden my hip started hurting to

the point that I cannot walk. What is really weird is that it comes

and goes. At first I thought I might have a hair line crack because I

have never had a problem before, but now I don't know since I can

intermittenly walk just fine. Has this happened to anyone else?

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I've had RA for about 20 years, too - I'm 65. My hip hurts when I walk, just

like you it comes and goes. I mentioned it to my rheumy - she punched my hip in

various places, then said it was not rheumatoid related (I respect her

expertise)- I have obvious hand deformities and take Enbrel inj. to control

flares. I have good bone density tests, so no osteoporosis- how about you??

Hairline fractures occur with some kind of injury, I think. Lilian

shc220 <phyliss.cole@...> wrote: I have had RA for 20 years. All

of a sudden my hip started hurting to

the point that I cannot walk. What is really weird is that it comes

and goes. At first I thought I might have a hair line crack because I

have never had a problem before, but now I don't know since I can

intermittenly walk just fine. Has this happened to anyone else?

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