RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria Nuggets

[Guest guest]

It's pretty awful, and clearly the monitor went overboard. I would have gone

ballistic over this and there would be no end to it.

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services

PO Box 581

La Habra, CA 90633

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

jackiechase66

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:19 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria

" Nuggets "

You have got to be kidding this is the ultimate in food police.

Jackie Chase RD

Dillingham AK

>

> Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets "

> State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase

> cafeteria food instead

> By Sara Burrows

>

> Feb. 14th, 2012

> More |

>

> RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken

> nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch

> her mother packed was not nutritious.

>

> The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple

> juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according

> to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in

> her More at Four classroom that day.

>

> The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department

> of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in

> pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day care centers - to meet

> USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat,

> one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or

> vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.

>

> When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items, child

> care providers must supplement them with the missing ones.

>

> The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect

> her daughter from retaliation - said she received a note from the school

> stating that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " would be

> offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the

> cafeteria, in her case $1.25.

>

> " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide

> lunch for her from home, " the mother wrote in a complaint to her state

> representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County.

>

> The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told

> Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white

> whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables.

>

> " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my kid I'm not packing

> her lunch box properly, " the girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox

> according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never

> consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to

> watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables. "

>

> When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to

> know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered.

> Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste.

>

> " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose

> to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of

> her, " her mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. `oh. you're lunch

> isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her food. "

>

> While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of

> vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the

> Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem.

>

> " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it

> had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and

> statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch

> itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a

> fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.

>

> There are no clear restrictions about what additional items - like

> potato chips - can be included in preschoolers' lunch boxes.

>

> " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child care

> provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child, "

> Kozlowski said.

>

> Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the Coke and Twinkie away

> from the child, but Kozlowski said she " would think the Pre-K provider

> would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for

> their child. "

>

> It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the cafeteria

> lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day.

>

> The state regulation reads:

>

> " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA

> requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of

> meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced price

> meals.

>

> " When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center,

> if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the

> center must provide additional food necessary to meet those requirements. "

>

> Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have been charged.

>

> " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the

> lunch wasn't meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted the

> child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent, " she said.

> " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school. "

>

> The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't " know anything

> about " parents being charged for the meals that day. " I know they eat in

> the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. "

>

> Pridgen's office is looking into the issue.

>

> Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal.

>

>

http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafet

eria-nuggets.html

>

[Guest guest]

this is why we need more RDs in the school districts.

> **

>

>

>

>

>

> I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go through children's

> lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What happens when an

> " approved " school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child with

> allergies or special food requirements or restrictions? If employees can't

> tell when a lunch meets the requirements, how can they be expected to

> understand something like a gluten free diet?

>

> Mavis , RDLD

>

>

> > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets "

> > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase

> > > cafeteria food instead

> > > By Sara Burrows

> > >

> > > Feb. 14th, 2012

> > > More |

> > >

> > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three

> chicken

> > > nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch

> > > her mother packed was not nutritious.

> > >

> > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple

> > > juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according

> > > to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes

> in

> > > her More at Four classroom that day.

> > >

> > > The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department

> > > of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in

> > > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day care centers - to

> meet

> > > USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of

> meat,

> > > one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or

> > > vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.

> > >

> > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items,

> child

> > > care providers must supplement them with the missing ones.

> > >

> > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect

> > > her daughter from retaliation - said she received a note from the

> school

> > > stating that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " would be

> > > offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the

> > > cafeteria, in her case $1.25.

> > >

> > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide

> > > lunch for her from home, " the mother wrote in a complaint to her state

> > > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County.

> > >

> > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told

> > > Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white

> > > whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables.

> > >

> > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my kid I'm not packing

> > > her lunch box properly, " the girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her

> lunchbox

> > > according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never

> > > consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to

> > > watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables. "

> > >

> > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to

> > > know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered.

> > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste.

> > >

> > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose

> > > to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of

> > > her, " her mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. `oh. you're lunch

> > > isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her

> food. "

> > >

> > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of

> > > vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the

> > > Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem.

> > >

> > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if

> it

> > > had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal

> and

> > > statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch

> > > itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a

> > > fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.

> > >

> > > There are no clear restrictions about what additional items - like

> > > potato chips - can be included in preschoolers' lunch boxes.

> > >

> > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child

> care

> > > provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child, "

> > > Kozlowski said.

> > >

> > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the Coke and Twinkie

> away

> > > from the child, but Kozlowski said she " would think the Pre-K provider

> > > would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for

> > > their child. "

> > >

> > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the

> cafeteria

> > > lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day.

> > >

> > > The state regulation reads:

> > >

> > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA

> > > requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of

> > > meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced

> price

> > > meals.

> > >

> > > " When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center,

> > > if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the

> > > center must provide additional food necessary to meet those

> requirements. "

> > >

> > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have been charged.

> > >

> > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the

> > > lunch wasn't meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted

> the

> > > child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent, " she said.

> > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school. "

> > >

> > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't " know anything

> > > about " parents being charged for the meals that day. " I know they eat

> in

> > > the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. "

> > >

> > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue.

> > >

> > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal.

> > >

> > >

> >

> http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafet

> > eria-nuggets.html

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

this is why we need more RDs in the school districts.

> **

>

>

>

>

>

> I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go through children's

> lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What happens when an

> " approved " school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child with

> allergies or special food requirements or restrictions? If employees can't

> tell when a lunch meets the requirements, how can they be expected to

> understand something like a gluten free diet?

>

> Mavis , RDLD

>

>

> > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets "

> > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase

> > > cafeteria food instead

> > > By Sara Burrows

> > >

> > > Feb. 14th, 2012

> > > More |

> > >

> > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three

> chicken

> > > nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch

> > > her mother packed was not nutritious.

> > >

> > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple

> > > juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according

> > > to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes

> in

> > > her More at Four classroom that day.

> > >

> > > The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department

> > > of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in

> > > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day care centers - to

> meet

> > > USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of

> meat,

> > > one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or

> > > vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.

> > >

> > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items,

> child

> > > care providers must supplement them with the missing ones.

> > >

> > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect

> > > her daughter from retaliation - said she received a note from the

> school

> > > stating that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " would be

> > > offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the

> > > cafeteria, in her case $1.25.

> > >

> > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide

> > > lunch for her from home, " the mother wrote in a complaint to her state

> > > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County.

> > >

> > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told

> > > Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white

> > > whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables.

> > >

> > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my kid I'm not packing

> > > her lunch box properly, " the girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her

> lunchbox

> > > according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never

> > > consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to

> > > watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables. "

> > >

> > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to

> > > know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered.

> > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste.

> > >

> > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose

> > > to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of

> > > her, " her mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. `oh. you're lunch

> > > isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her

> food. "

> > >

> > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of

> > > vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the

> > > Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem.

> > >

> > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if

> it

> > > had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal

> and

> > > statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch

> > > itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a

> > > fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.

> > >

> > > There are no clear restrictions about what additional items - like

> > > potato chips - can be included in preschoolers' lunch boxes.

> > >

> > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child

> care

> > > provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child, "

> > > Kozlowski said.

> > >

> > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the Coke and Twinkie

> away

> > > from the child, but Kozlowski said she " would think the Pre-K provider

> > > would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for

> > > their child. "

> > >

> > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the

> cafeteria

> > > lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day.

> > >

> > > The state regulation reads:

> > >

> > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA

> > > requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of

> > > meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced

> price

> > > meals.

> > >

> > > " When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center,

> > > if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the

> > > center must provide additional food necessary to meet those

> requirements. "

> > >

> > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have been charged.

> > >

> > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the

> > > lunch wasn't meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted

> the

> > > child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent, " she said.

> > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school. "

> > >

> > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't " know anything

> > > about " parents being charged for the meals that day. " I know they eat

> in

> > > the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. "

> > >

> > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue.

> > >

> > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal.

> > >

> > >

> >

> http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafet

> > eria-nuggets.html

> > >

> >

> >