Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at children's foods From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of theonlineceliacdietitian Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table.Every meal, portion veggies to the " picky eater " (98% of all the kids are and they " grow out " " of it, eventually) and as he makes a " face " and starts the " drama " say something to the effect: this is what mom made for dinner. No one is forcing it at you. YOu can leave it at the plate or try it, maybe you'll like it. if the kid eats - great. No praise, no punishment, no drama.If he doesn't - same response.Most importantly - mom and dad are eating the veggies and maybe take seconds. Setting an example. Monkey sees monkey do. Eventually, some kids sooner then others, will try the " forbidden fruit " . Just be consistent. No drama, no fuss, and continue to portion to their plate whatever is served to the rest of the dinners (only in smaller portion). I don't like deception. Maybe because I see it as a form of lying. When the kids will discover that, the parent will lose credit and trust.I was around that age (5) when I discovered that the coffee I wanted was tea with milk. Back then my parents believed it is better for me then coffee, so they did what they thought was right. But after I discovered that - not only I stopped drinking that " coffee " , I lost some trust, even if temporarily in my parents. DOn't underestimate the little ones. They outsmart us every generation!Thank's G-d we don't live in a 3rd world country. The kid would not die of hunger (at least not in this case, it seems, though yes, unfortunately, many kids in our nation do struggle with hunger, and that, is beyond sad). If she can afford that - tell her to get Pediasure. It will ease her mind and the kid would love it. Problem solved (2-3X/day), all Vit and minerals provided. Eventually - the kid will try new foods and eat some veggies if not all. My daughter used to eat only mashed potato, rice (white!) and chic nuggets. No veggie in sight. I did all of the above with her, who is now 18 and would NOT sit for dinner w/o a fresh salad! Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: KLaschke@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:15:50 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at children's foods From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of theonlineceliacdietitian Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: dignacassens@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: dignacassens@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I agree with Digna and Merav....I grew up in a family of 5 where " options " were not an option...you ate what was put in front of you. My mom was an adventurous cook for women in the 60's and 70's. We learned to eat many different and varied foods. None of which, myself, nor my siblings ever whined about. Me, I hated ham jambalaya; but I ate it...my sister...she hated souffle.....but she ate it. As stated so well by Merav....no fuss, no drama. Cece ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:32:25 -0500 >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav Levi ) >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > >Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > >Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. >http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > >To: rd-usa >From: dignacassens@... >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding > >foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors > >(elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it > >amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > > >I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the > >fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it > >they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the > >vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they > >don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable > >on the menu that they'll like. > > > >Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > >Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services > >PO Box 581 > >La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat > > > >vegetables > > > >To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego > > > >Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of > > > >vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the > > > >pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of > > > >pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. > > > >You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to > > > >buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. > > > >I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. > > > >Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > >> > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat > > > >vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she > > > >might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of > > > >one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend > > > >for her? > > > >> Thank you, > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > >> > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks Cece, and you know what else- you, your siblings, Digna and me- we are a different generation.we had more respect for what our parents put on the table. We respected the hard work that got the food on the table and that's why we didn't whine , as you said, but ate what was served. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG Sent from my iPhone > I agree with Digna and Merav....I grew up in a family of 5 where " options " were not an option...you ate what was put in front of you. My mom was an adventurous cook for women in the 60's and 70's. We learned to eat many different and varied foods. None of which, myself, nor my siblings ever whined about. Me, I hated ham jambalaya; but I ate it...my sister...she hated souffle.....but she ate it. As stated so well by Merav....no fuss, no drama. > Cece > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:32:25 -0500 > >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav Levi ) > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > >To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > >Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > > > >Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. > >http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > >To: rd-usa > >From: dignacassens@... > >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding > > > >foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors > > > >(elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it > > > >amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > > > > > > >I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the > > > >fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it > > > >they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the > > > >vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they > > > >don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable > > > >on the menu that they'll like. > > > > > > > >Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > > > >Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services > > > >PO Box 581 > > > >La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat > > > > > > > >vegetables > > > > > > > >To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego > > > > > > > >Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of > > > > > > > >vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the > > > > > > > >pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of > > > > > > > >pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. > > > > > > > >You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to > > > > > > > >buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. > > > > > > > >I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. > > > > > > > >Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat > > > > > > > >vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she > > > > > > > >might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of > > > > > > > >one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend > > > > > > > >for her? > > > > > > > >> Thank you, > > > > > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 We also ate together as a family every night...no television on, put our napkins in our laps, no elbows on the table and had to be excused from the table when finished......took our dishes to the sink, rinsed them and put them in the dishwasher. Thanks for this walk down my memory lane! ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:42:53 -0500 >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav ) >Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > > > > > Thanks Cece, and you know what else- you, your > siblings, Digna and me- we are a different > generation.we had more respect for what our parents > put on the table. We respected the hard work that > got the food on the table and that's why we didn't > whine , as you said, but ate what was served. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Cece Ohmart > wrote: > > > I agree with Digna and Merav....I grew up in a > family of 5 where " options " were not an option...you > ate what was put in front of you. My mom was an > adventurous cook for women in the 60's and 70's. We > learned to eat many different and varied foods. None > of which, myself, nor my siblings ever whined about. > Me, I hated ham jambalaya; but I ate it...my > sister...she hated souffle.....but she ate it. As > stated so well by Merav....no fuss, no drama. > > Cece > > > > ---- Original message ---- > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:32:25 -0500 > > >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav > Levi ) > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > getting children to eat vegetables > > >To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > >Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or > help making the meal they feel more " connected " to > it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also > was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this > day my daughter will try anything (that's how she > grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items > ,which are not something originally in our Middle > Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > > > > > >Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the > food police. > > >http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you > take, but by the moments that take your breath > away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, they just become better in lying " > (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > >To: rd-usa > > >From: dignacassens@... > > >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the > comments but I cannot see hiding > > > > > >foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm > now teaching my seniors > > > > > >(elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this > same concept and some find it > > > > > >amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > > > > > > > > > > >I would suggest having a child grow a garden from > a seedling on up to the > > > > > >fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots > of room. If they grow it > > > > > >they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso > will not serve other than the > > > > > >vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it > they eat it, if they > > > > > >don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe > I'll have another vegetable > > > > > >on the menu that they'll like. > > > > > > > > > > > >Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > > > > > >Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition > Consulting Services > > > > > >PO Box 581 > > > > > >La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting > children to eat > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > >To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I > use Veggie Smart Prego > > > > > > > > > > > >Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain > 10 servings of > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each > pizza. I usually cut the > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 > servings per slice of > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total > of 6 vegetable servings. > > > > > > > > > > > >You can not tell the difference from the Heart > Smart versions I used to > > > > > > > > > > > >buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes > in place of the oils. > > > > > > > > > > > >I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to > hide vegetables. > > > > > > > > > > > >Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year > old son won't eat > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables and asked me for recommendations for > recipe books so she > > > > > > > > > > > >might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off > hand I couldn't think of > > > > > > > > > > > >one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, > what would you recommend > > > > > > > > > > > >for her? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 We also ate together as a family every night...no television on, put our napkins in our laps, no elbows on the table and had to be excused from the table when finished......took our dishes to the sink, rinsed them and put them in the dishwasher. Thanks for this walk down my memory lane! ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:42:53 -0500 >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav ) >Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > > > > > Thanks Cece, and you know what else- you, your > siblings, Digna and me- we are a different > generation.we had more respect for what our parents > put on the table. We respected the hard work that > got the food on the table and that's why we didn't > whine , as you said, but ate what was served. > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Cece Ohmart > wrote: > > > I agree with Digna and Merav....I grew up in a > family of 5 where " options " were not an option...you > ate what was put in front of you. My mom was an > adventurous cook for women in the 60's and 70's. We > learned to eat many different and varied foods. None > of which, myself, nor my siblings ever whined about. > Me, I hated ham jambalaya; but I ate it...my > sister...she hated souffle.....but she ate it. As > stated so well by Merav....no fuss, no drama. > > Cece > > > > ---- Original message ---- > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:32:25 -0500 > > >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav > Levi ) > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > getting children to eat vegetables > > >To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > >Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or > help making the meal they feel more " connected " to > it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also > was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this > day my daughter will try anything (that's how she > grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items > ,which are not something originally in our Middle > Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > > > > > >Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the > food police. > > >http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you > take, but by the moments that take your breath > away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > truth, they just become better in lying " > (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > >To: rd-usa > > >From: dignacassens@... > > >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the > comments but I cannot see hiding > > > > > >foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm > now teaching my seniors > > > > > >(elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this > same concept and some find it > > > > > >amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > > > > > > > > > > >I would suggest having a child grow a garden from > a seedling on up to the > > > > > >fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots > of room. If they grow it > > > > > >they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso > will not serve other than the > > > > > >vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it > they eat it, if they > > > > > >don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe > I'll have another vegetable > > > > > >on the menu that they'll like. > > > > > > > > > > > >Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > > > > > >Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition > Consulting Services > > > > > >PO Box 581 > > > > > >La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting > children to eat > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > >To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I > use Veggie Smart Prego > > > > > > > > > > > >Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain > 10 servings of > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each > pizza. I usually cut the > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 > servings per slice of > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total > of 6 vegetable servings. > > > > > > > > > > > >You can not tell the difference from the Heart > Smart versions I used to > > > > > > > > > > > >buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes > in place of the oils. > > > > > > > > > > > >I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to > hide vegetables. > > > > > > > > > > > >Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year > old son won't eat > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables and asked me for recommendations for > recipe books so she > > > > > > > > > > > >might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off > hand I couldn't think of > > > > > > > > > > > >one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, > what would you recommend > > > > > > > > > > > >for her? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Yep. All of those in my family too, even if we grew up in different continents. It's amazing how alike we grew up Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG Sent from my iPhone > We also ate together as a family every night...no television on, put our napkins in our laps, no elbows on the table and had to be excused from the table when finished......took our dishes to the sink, rinsed them and put them in the dishwasher. Thanks for this walk down my memory lane! > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:42:53 -0500 > >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav ) > >Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > >To: " rd-usa " <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > Thanks Cece, and you know what else- you, your > > siblings, Digna and me- we are a different > > generation.we had more respect for what our parents > > put on the table. We respected the hard work that > > got the food on the table and that's why we didn't > > whine , as you said, but ate what was served. > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:21 AM, Cece Ohmart > > wrote: > > > > > I agree with Digna and Merav....I grew up in a > > family of 5 where " options " were not an option...you > > ate what was put in front of you. My mom was an > > adventurous cook for women in the 60's and 70's. We > > learned to eat many different and varied foods. None > > of which, myself, nor my siblings ever whined about. > > Me, I hated ham jambalaya; but I ate it...my > > sister...she hated souffle.....but she ate it. As > > stated so well by Merav....no fuss, no drama. > > > Cece > > > > > > ---- Original message ---- > > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:32:25 -0500 > > > >From: rd-usa (on behalf of Merav > > Levi ) > > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > > getting children to eat vegetables > > > >To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > > > > > > > > > > >Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or > > help making the meal they feel more " connected " to > > it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also > > was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this > > day my daughter will try anything (that's how she > > grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items > > ,which are not something originally in our Middle > > Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > > > > > > > >Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the > > food police. > > > >http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you > > take, but by the moments that take your breath > > away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the > > truth, they just become better in lying " > > (Revolutionary Road) > > > > > > > > > > > >To: rd-usa > > > >From: dignacassens@... > > > >Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 > > > >Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for > > getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the > > comments but I cannot see hiding > > > > > > > >foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm > > now teaching my seniors > > > > > > > >(elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this > > same concept and some find it > > > > > > > >amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would suggest having a child grow a garden from > > a seedling on up to the > > > > > > > >fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots > > of room. If they grow it > > > > > > > >they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso > > will not serve other than the > > > > > > > >vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it > > they eat it, if they > > > > > > > >don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe > > I'll have another vegetable > > > > > > > >on the menu that they'll like. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > > > > > > > >Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition > > Consulting Services > > > > > > > >PO Box 581 > > > > > > > >La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting > > children to eat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I > > use Veggie Smart Prego > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain > > 10 servings of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each > > pizza. I usually cut the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 > > servings per slice of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total > > of 6 vegetable servings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You can not tell the difference from the Heart > > Smart versions I used to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes > > in place of the oils. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to > > hide vegetables. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year > > old son won't eat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >vegetables and asked me for recommendations for > > recipe books so she > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off > > hand I couldn't think of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, > > what would you recommend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >for her? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 > > My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table. Beautifully said, Merav. I have always found the idea of " hiding vegetables " from children offensive. -ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 > > My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table. Beautifully said, Merav. I have always found the idea of " hiding vegetables " from children offensive. -ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks. Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: fivestar@... Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:15:25 -0600 Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table. Beautifully said, Merav. I have always found the idea of " hiding vegetables " from children offensive. -ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 My kids know they have to take a " No Thank you bite " . If after one bite they don't like it that day they can say " No Thank you, I don't want anymore of that right now " . My kids are young...preschool age but seems to work pretty well. Rader RD, LD Renal Dietitian US Renal Care-Kenwood 5150 E. Galbraith Rd Cincinnati, OH 45236 (fax) US Renal Care-Norwood 1721 Tennessee Ave. Cincinnati, OH 45229 (fax) ________________________________________ From: rd-usa [rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Merav Levi [meravls@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:32 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: dignacassens@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 My kids know they have to take a " No Thank you bite " . If after one bite they don't like it that day they can say " No Thank you, I don't want anymore of that right now " . My kids are young...preschool age but seems to work pretty well. Rader RD, LD Renal Dietitian US Renal Care-Kenwood 5150 E. Galbraith Rd Cincinnati, OH 45236 (fax) US Renal Care-Norwood 1721 Tennessee Ave. Cincinnati, OH 45229 (fax) ________________________________________ From: rd-usa [rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Merav Levi [meravls@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:32 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: dignacassens@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it amazing. Why hide good food under something else? I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable on the menu that they'll like. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 My very wise daughter-in-law addressed this problem much better than I did. When my children were at the 'I hate veggies' stage, I used to serve them rigatoni and have the veggies 'hidden' inside. To this day they are all suspicious of tubular pastas! My DIL simply told the children that they had to take the same number of vegetable bites as their age. It really worked. She began this as soon as they learned to count. Of course if after the prescribed number of bites they found that they did like some veggies and wanted more she would 'permit' the treat!  Madalyn Friedberg RD CDN   ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table.Every meal, portion veggies to the " picky eater " (98% of all the kids are and they " grow out " " of it, eventually) and as he makes a " face " and starts the " drama " say something to the effect: this is what mom made for dinner. No one is forcing it at you. YOu can leave it at the plate or try it, maybe you'll like it. if the kid eats - great. No praise, no punishment, no drama.If he doesn't - same response.Most importantly - mom and dad are eating the veggies and maybe take seconds. Setting an example. Monkey sees monkey do. Eventually, some kids sooner then others, will try the " forbidden fruit " . Just be consistent. No drama, no fuss, and continue to portion to their plate whatever is served to the rest of the dinners (only in smaller portion). I don't like deception. Maybe because I see it as a form of lying. When the kids will discover that, the parent will lose credit and trust.I was around that age (5) when I discovered that the coffee I wanted was tea with milk. Back then my parents believed it is better for me then coffee, so they did what they thought was right. But after I discovered that - not only I stopped drinking that " coffee " , I lost some trust, even if temporarily in my parents. DOn't underestimate the little ones. They outsmart us every generation!Thank's G-d we don't live in a 3rd world country. The kid would not die of hunger (at least not in this case, it seems, though yes, unfortunately, many kids in our nation do struggle with hunger, and that, is beyond sad). If she can afford that - tell her to get Pediasure. It will ease her mind and the kid would love it. Problem solved (2-3X/day), all Vit and minerals provided. Eventually - the kid will try new foods and eat some veggies if not all. My daughter used to eat only mashed potato, rice (white!) and chic nuggets. No veggie in sight. I did all of the above with her, who is now 18 and would NOT sit for dinner w/o a fresh salad! Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: KLaschke@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:15:50 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables             Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at children's foods From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of theonlineceliacdietitian Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Love that idea. Smart DIL indeed Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: mffrd10019@... Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:59:42 -0800 Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables My very wise daughter-in-law addressed this problem much better than I did. When my children were at the 'I hate veggies' stage, I used to serve them rigatoni and have the veggies 'hidden' inside. To this day they are all suspicious of tubular pastas! My DIL simply told the children that they had to take the same number of vegetable bites as their age. It really worked. She began this as soon as they learned to count. Of course if after the prescribed number of bites they found that they did like some veggies and wanted more she would 'permit' the treat! Madalyn Friedberg RD CDN ________________________________ To: rd-usa <rd-usa > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:50 PM Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table.Every meal, portion veggies to the " picky eater " (98% of all the kids are and they " grow out " " of it, eventually) and as he makes a " face " and starts the " drama " say something to the effect: this is what mom made for dinner. No one is forcing it at you. YOu can leave it at the plate or try it, maybe you'll like it. if the kid eats - great. No praise, no punishment, no drama.If he doesn't - same response.Most importantly - mom and dad are eating the veggies and maybe take seconds. Setting an example. Monkey sees monkey do. Eventually, some kids sooner then others, will try the " forbidden fruit " . Just be consistent. No drama, no fuss, and continue to portion to their plate whatever is served to the rest of the dinners (only in smaller portion). I don't like deception. Maybe because I see it as a form of lying. When the kids will discover that, the parent will lose credit and trust.I was around that age (5) when I discovered that the coffee I wanted was tea with milk. Back then my parents believed it is better for me then coffee, so they did what they thought was right. But after I discovered that - not only I stopped drinking that " coffee " , I lost some trust, even if temporarily in my parents. DOn't underestimate the little ones. They outsmart us every generation!Thank's G-d we don't live in a 3rd world country. The kid would not die of hunger (at least not in this case, it seems, though yes, unfortunately, many kids in our nation do struggle with hunger, and that, is beyond sad). If she can afford that - tell her to get Pediasure. It will ease her mind and the kid would love it. Problem solved (2-3X/day), all Vit and minerals provided. Eventually - the kid will try new foods and eat some veggies if not all. My daughter used to eat only mashed potato, rice (white!) and chic nuggets. No veggie in sight. I did all of the above with her, who is now 18 and would NOT sit for dinner w/o a fresh salad! Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) To: rd-usa From: KLaschke@... Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:15:50 -0800 Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at children's foods From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of theonlineceliacdietitian Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend for her? > Thank you, > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like that! Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSG Sent from my iPhone > My kids know they have to take a " No Thank you bite " . If after one bite they don't like it that day they can say " No Thank you, I don't want anymore of that right now " . My kids are young...preschool age but seems to work pretty well. > > Rader RD, LD > Renal Dietitian > > US Renal Care-Kenwood > 5150 E. Galbraith Rd > Cincinnati, OH 45236 > > (fax) > > US Renal Care-Norwood > 1721 Tennessee Ave. > Cincinnati, OH 45229 > > (fax) > ________________________________________ > From: rd-usa [rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Merav Levi [meravls@...] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:32 AM > To: rd-usa > Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > Exactly! and many times when they grow the veg or help making the meal they feel more " connected " to it and as you said " at least try it " .My motto also was " don't say 'no' before you tried it " and to this day my daughter will try anything (that's how she grew to love chix feet and other dimsusm items ,which are not something originally in our Middle Eastern/Mediterranean culture). > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > To: rd-usa > From: dignacassens@... > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:27:15 -0800 > Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > Merav, thank you. I hesitated to join the comments but I cannot see hiding > > foods and passing them off as other foods. I'm now teaching my seniors > > (elder seniors not a class grade seniors) this same concept and some find it > > amazing. Why hide good food under something else? > > I would suggest having a child grow a garden from a seedling on up to the > > fruit or vegetable. It doesn't take long, or lots of room. If they grow it > > they'll trust it and at least taste it. I slso will not serve other than the > > vegetable assortment for that day. If they eat it they eat it, if they > > don't, well, tomorrow is another day and maybe I'll have another vegetable > > on the menu that they'll like. > > Digna Cassens, MHA, RD > > Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services > > PO Box 581 > > La Habra, CA 90633 > > > > Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat > > vegetables > > To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego > > Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of > > vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the > > pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of > > pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. > > You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to > > buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. > > I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. > > Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > > A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat > > vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she > > might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of > > one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend > > for her? > > > Thank you, > > > Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 That's good news right? Wish you'd hear back from the US hr lady right now!!! Any word from your parents yet about aunt Ruth ? I don't suppose you've had a chance to talk to your brother yet about the funeral/cremation? If you do talk to him ,do you want to ask him about Disney as well and find out their plans? Or i can always talk to colleen about it. At some point we'll need to make a decision about whether we are going to go or not with either them at spring break or at another time with your folks. Things are booking up fast for spring break as almost all schools in the country have that week off.... MR Ps. No drinks tonite with the girls....should I find a sitter for tomorrow nite or ask Jeanne & greg if they & the kids want to come over? Sent from my iPhone > > Love that idea. Smart DIL indeed > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > To: rd-usa > From: mffrd10019@... > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:59:42 -0800 > Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My very wise daughter-in-law addressed this problem much better than I did. > > When my children were at the 'I hate veggies' stage, I used to serve them rigatoni and have the veggies 'hidden' inside. To this day they are all suspicious of tubular pastas! > > My DIL simply told the children that they had to take the same number of vegetable bites as their age. It really worked. She began this as soon as they learned to count. Of course if after the prescribed number of bites they found that they did like some veggies and wanted more she would 'permit' the treat! > > > > Madalyn Friedberg RD CDN > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To: rd-usa <rd-usa > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:50 PM > > Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > > > My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table.Every meal, portion veggies to the " picky eater " (98% of all the kids are and they " grow out " " of it, eventually) and as he makes a " face " and starts the " drama " say something to the effect: this is what mom made for dinner. No one is forcing it at you. YOu can leave it at the plate or try it, maybe you'll like it. if the kid eats - great. No praise, no punishment, no drama.If he doesn't - same response.Most importantly - mom and dad are eating the veggies and maybe take seconds. Setting an example. Monkey sees monkey do. Eventually, some kids sooner then others, will try the " forbidden fruit " . Just be consistent. No drama, no fuss, and continue to portion to their plate whatever is served to the rest of the dinners (only in smaller portion). > > I don't like deception. Maybe because I see it as a form of lying. When the kids will discover that, the parent will lose credit and trust.I was around that age (5) when I discovered that the coffee I wanted was tea with milk. Back then my parents believed it is better for me then coffee, so they did what they thought was right. But after I discovered that - not only I stopped drinking that " coffee " , I lost some trust, even if temporarily in my parents. DOn't underestimate the little ones. They outsmart us every generation!Thank's G-d we don't live in a 3rd world country. The kid would not die of hunger (at least not in this case, it seems, though yes, unfortunately, many kids in our nation do struggle with hunger, and that, is beyond sad). If she can afford that - tell her to get Pediasure. It will ease her mind and the kid would love it. Problem solved (2-3X/day), all Vit and minerals provided. Eventually - the kid will try new foods and eat some > > veggies if not all. > > My daughter used to eat only mashed potato, rice (white!) and chic nuggets. No veggie in sight. I did all of the above with her, who is now 18 and would NOT sit for dinner w/o a fresh salad! > > > > Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi > > > > " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) > > > > To: rd-usa > > From: KLaschke@... > > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:15:50 -0800 > > Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at > > > > children's foods > > > > From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf > > > > Of theonlineceliacdietitian > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM > > > > To: rd-usa > > > > Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat > > > > vegetables > > > > To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego > > > > Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of > > > > vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the > > > > pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of > > > > pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. > > > > You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to > > > > buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. > > > > I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. > > > > Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT > > > > > > > >> > > > >> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat > > > > vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she > > > > might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of > > > > one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend > > > > for her? > > > >> Thank you, > > > >> Holly Moler-Krohne RD > > > >> > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please disregard previous email! My apologies! Sent from my iPhone > That's good news right? Wish you'd hear back from the US hr lady right now!!! > > Any word from your parents yet about aunt Ruth ? I don't suppose you've had a chance to talk to your brother yet about the funeral/cremation? If you do talk to him ,do you want to ask him about Disney as well and find out their plans? Or i can always talk to colleen about it. At some point we'll need to make a decision about whether we are going to go or not with either them at spring break or at another time with your folks. Things are booking up fast for spring break as almost all schools in the country have that week off.... > > MR > > Ps. No drinks tonite with the girls....should I find a sitter for tomorrow nite or ask Jeanne & greg if they & the kids want to come over? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> >> Love that idea. Smart DIL indeed >> >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi >> >> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) >> >> >> To: rd-usa >> From: mffrd10019@... >> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:59:42 -0800 >> Subject: Re: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> My very wise daughter-in-law addressed this problem much better than I did. >> >> When my children were at the 'I hate veggies' stage, I used to serve them rigatoni and have the veggies 'hidden' inside. To this day they are all suspicious of tubular pastas! >> >> My DIL simply told the children that they had to take the same number of vegetable bites as their age. It really worked. She began this as soon as they learned to count. Of course if after the prescribed number of bites they found that they did like some veggies and wanted more she would 'permit' the treat! >> >> >> >> Madalyn Friedberg RD CDN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> >> To: rd-usa <rd-usa > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:50 PM >> >> Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >> >> >> >> My recommendations:Stop making a drama at the table.Every meal, portion veggies to the " picky eater " (98% of all the kids are and they " grow out " " of it, eventually) and as he makes a " face " and starts the " drama " say something to the effect: this is what mom made for dinner. No one is forcing it at you. YOu can leave it at the plate or try it, maybe you'll like it. if the kid eats - great. No praise, no punishment, no drama.If he doesn't - same response.Most importantly - mom and dad are eating the veggies and maybe take seconds. Setting an example. Monkey sees monkey do. Eventually, some kids sooner then others, will try the " forbidden fruit " . Just be consistent. No drama, no fuss, and continue to portion to their plate whatever is served to the rest of the dinners (only in smaller portion). >> >> I don't like deception. Maybe because I see it as a form of lying. When the kids will discover that, the parent will lose credit and trust.I was around that age (5) when I discovered that the coffee I wanted was tea with milk. Back then my parents believed it is better for me then coffee, so they did what they thought was right. But after I discovered that - not only I stopped drinking that " coffee " , I lost some trust, even if temporarily in my parents. DOn't underestimate the little ones. They outsmart us every generation!Thank's G-d we don't live in a 3rd world country. The kid would not die of hunger (at least not in this case, it seems, though yes, unfortunately, many kids in our nation do struggle with hunger, and that, is beyond sad). If she can afford that - tell her to get Pediasure. It will ease her mind and the kid would love it. Problem solved (2-3X/day), all Vit and minerals provided. Eventually - the kid will try new foods and eat some >> >> veggies if not all. >> >> My daughter used to eat only mashed potato, rice (white!) and chic nuggets. No veggie in sight. I did all of the above with her, who is now 18 and would NOT sit for dinner w/o a fresh salad! >> >> >> >> Merav Levi, RD, MS, CDN, CSGA dietitian, not the food police. >> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/meravlevi >> >> >> >> " Life is not measured by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. " - Carlin " People don't forget the truth, they just become better in lying " (Revolutionary Road) >> >> >> >> To: rd-usa >> >> From: KLaschke@... >> >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:15:50 -0800 >> >> Subject: RE: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat vegetables >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Deceptively Delicious is a puree/hidden veggie recipe book aimed at >> >> >> >> children's foods >> >> >> >> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf >> >> >> >> Of theonlineceliacdietitian >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:39 PM >> >> >> >> To: rd-usa >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Recommendations for getting children to eat >> >> >> >> vegetables >> >> >> >> To get more vegetables into my picky eaters, I use Veggie Smart Prego >> >> >> >> Spaghetti and Pizza sauces. Both of these contain 10 servings of >> >> >> >> vegetables per jar. We use a whole jar on each pizza. I usually cut the >> >> >> >> pizza into 6 pieces. So that is approximately 2 servings per slice of >> >> >> >> pizza. Katarina eats about 3 slices for a total of 6 vegetable servings. >> >> >> >> You can not tell the difference from the Heart Smart versions I used to >> >> >> >> buy. Also you can add ground vegetables to cakes in place of the oils. >> >> >> >> I can't remember seeing a cook book with ways to hide vegetables. >> >> >> >> Theresa Cornelius, MS, RD, LDN, CLT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> A nurse at work is concerned that her 5 year old son won't eat >> >> >> >> vegetables and asked me for recommendations for recipe books so she >> >> >> >> might be able to " hide " vegetables in food. Off hand I couldn't think of >> >> >> >> one like that. Other than Ellyn Satter's books, what would you recommend >> >> >> >> for her? >> >> >> >>> Thank you, >> >> >> >>> Holly Moler-Krohne RD >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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