Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and fatigue?

June 3, 2008

Hi,

Do you mean a physiatrist? or , a psychiatrist? You mention both in your

initial email. I see a physiatrist along with a rheumatologist. I love the

physiatrist..she can handle the aches and pains that are not RA related. I have

gotten lidocaine shots and lidoderm patches as well. Now that my rheumy is

leaving, i'll be seeing her a lot more I think. Good luck.

Heidi

To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who dont, no

explanation is possible

In a message dated 6/3/2008 10:38:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

proedge21@... writes:

Thank you , I am hoping he will send me for tests. I know the road

is long for a diagnosis...is long for a diagnosis...<WBR>bu

before testing is a bit extream.

I am depressed but only because I am in so much pain. Over the

counter pain relievers do not help.

Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

legs ,

> wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

with

> extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

interfering

> with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

low

> grade fever.

> Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

test

> run for a general physical.

> This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

he

> will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

and

> fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

anything

> wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

joints.)

> He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> says.

> I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

and

> brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

rule

> out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

for

> pain and fatigue?

>

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>

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June 3, 2008

Many rheumatologists even after you have a diagnosis will suggest seeing a

psychologist or psychiatrist. Depression can come with many chronic illnesses

as our lives are changed dramatically. Mine always makes sure I am seeing one

due to my anxiety. The more anxious I am, the more my physical health is in

jeopardy and the more pain I experience. However, you should definitely have

the required tests for inflammatory arthritis such as the RF, ANA, CRP, SED

Rate, and anti ccp, as well as metabolic panel. Getting diagnosed is often a

long process especially if you are seronegative. Xrays and scans can also show

diseases. I am seronegative and my doctor was supposed to be giving me a more

aggressive treatment this past visit, and she ended up taking me off one of the

DMARDS that help me, and left me on the one that I have to quit taking every

time I get sick and am on an antibiotic, which has happened 6 times in the past

few months. Be your best advocate that is the

best we can do in our aim to find good doctors!

unicornrobot <proedge21@...> wrote: Hello, I

am 41 Female ,

For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my legs ,

wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing with

extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is interfering

with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with low

grade fever.

Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard test

run for a general physical.

This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe he

will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain and

fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate anything

wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my joints.)

He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

says.

I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything and

brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test rule

out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist for

pain and fatigue?

June 3, 2008

Thank you , I am hoping he will send me for tests. I know the road

is long for a diagnosis...but to start out with a psychiatrist

before testing is a bit extream.

I am depressed but only because I am in so much pain. Over the

counter pain relievers do not help.

Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

legs ,

> wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

with

> extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

interfering

> with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

low

> grade fever.

> Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

test

> run for a general physical.

> This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

he

> will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

and

> fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

anything

> wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

joints.)

> He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> says.

> I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

and

> brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

rule

> out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

for

> pain and fatigue?

>

June 3, 2008

Sorry a psychiatrist spell check changed it to physiatrist. He said

it was all in my head. (

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> > For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

> legs ,

> > wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> > disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

> with

> > extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

> interfering

> > with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

> low

> > grade fever.

> > Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> > routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> > general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

> test

> > run for a general physical.

> > This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

> he

> > will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and

said ,

> > what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

> and

> > fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

> anything

> > wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

> joints.)

> > He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him

NO

> > you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist

or

> > order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so

he

> > says.

> > I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> > 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

> and

> > brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> > possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

> rule

> > out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered

when

> > dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

> for

> > pain and fatigue?

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

>

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June 3, 2008

I completely agree that tests should definitely be done first. When I first

became ill several years ago (I am 36 now), they couldn't figure out what was

wrong at first. They thought it was my anxiety stressing my body out. Then I

found a really good family doctor and they finally diagnosed the Fibromyalgia

(although some doctors feel this is a " in your head " diagnosis) I find that more

believe in the disease than those in the minority. It's just always frustrating

to not have a doctor believe in it...We know when we hurt and we know our bodies

and we KNOW it's not in our heads.

unicornrobot <proedge21@...> wrote: Thank you

, I am hoping he will send me for tests. I know the road

is long for a diagnosis...but to start out with a psychiatrist

before testing is a bit extream.

I am depressed but only because I am in so much pain. Over the

counter pain relievers do not help.

Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

legs ,

> wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

with

> extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

interfering

> with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

low

> grade fever.

> Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

test

> run for a general physical.

> This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

he

> will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

and

> fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

anything

> wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

joints.)

> He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> says.

> I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

and

> brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

rule

> out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

for

> pain and fatigue?

>

June 3, 2008

I think that a good psychiatrist would either order the tests you refer to or

would send you

to a doc who would do the blood work. Sometimes it takes someone with a

different

perspective to really " hear " what you are saying and figure out what you need.

My rheumy sent me to a psychiatrist with the words, " pain causes depression and

depression causes pain. " I am thankful for her insight and the psychiatrist has

been a help

to me. Just one example: steroids make me a psychological mess. By having a

psychiatrist

involved in my treatment, I have an advocate who can back up my insistence to

avoid

steroids if at all possible.

I certainly understand your frustration. I hope you can find a professional who

will take

the time to listen to you and get you what you need. Remember, we are here to

listen and

to help, if we can. Don't give up!

All the best,

Pat

>

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my legs ,

> wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing with

> extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is interfering

> with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with low

> grade fever.

> Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard test

> run for a general physical.

> This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe he

> will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain and

> fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate anything

> wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my joints.)

> He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> says.

> I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything and

> brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test rule

> out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist for

> pain and fatigue?

>

June 4, 2008

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> > For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

> legs ,

> > wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> > disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

> with

> > extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

> interfering

> > with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

> low

> > grade fever.

> > Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> > routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> > general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

> test

> > run for a general physical.

> > This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

> he

> > will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> > what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

> and

> > fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

> anything

> > wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

> joints.)

> > He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> > you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> > order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> > says.

> > I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> > 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

> and

> > brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> > possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

> rule

> > out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> > dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

> for

> > pain and fatigue?

> >

June 4, 2008

Hi,

I just learned that WBC's are increased in RA, apparently associated with

inflammation, whereas they may be low in Lupus.

I'd certainly seek out another doctor.

I know it can be hard. I should have been sent to a rheumatologist several years

before I finally tested positive for RA factory. I kept complaining my joints

hurt and I'm tired but my doctors didn't apparently know to refer me to a

rheumatologist and I didn't either. I wish I'd known the other tests that could

have been helpful.

ez

June 4, 2008

stephanie i say AMEN to that drs. do sometimes believe its all in our heads its

not. THE PAIN IS REAL!! god bless,melyndagamez 6/4/08 10:50a.m.central

Re: [ ] Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and

fatigue?

I completely agree that tests should definitely be done first. When I first

became ill several years ago (I am 36 now), they couldn't figure out what was

wrong at first. They thought it was my anxiety stressing my body out. Then I

found a really good family doctor and they finally diagnosed the Fibromyalgia

(although some doctors feel this is a " in your head " diagnosis) I find that more

believe in the disease than those in the minority. It's just always frustrating

to not have a doctor believe in it...We know when we hurt and we know our bodies

and we KNOW it's not in our heads.

unicornrobot <proedge21@...> wrote: Thank you ,

I am hoping he will send me for tests. I know the road

is long for a diagnosis...but to start out with a psychiatrist

before testing is a bit extream.

I am depressed but only because I am in so much pain. Over the

counter pain relievers do not help.

Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

legs ,

> wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

with

> extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

interfering

> with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

low

> grade fever.

> Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor.. He ordered

> routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

test

> run for a general physical.

> This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

he

> will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

and

> fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

anything

> wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

joints.)

> He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> says.

> I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

and

> brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

rule

> out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

for

> pain and fatigue?

>

June 4, 2008

Hi !

I am so sorry you had to go through that! I've been lucky that none of my

doctors have ever thought I have been " hypochondriac " as some doctors label

those that have symptoms but they can't find what is wrong. I've had a panic

disorder basically my whole life. My first panic attack was before the fourth

grade, but I vividly remember my very first severe one at that time. I did have

one doctor, before I became a patient of the family doctor that I have now

suggested it was FMS, that couldn't find anything wrong with me. Hmm,I wonder

why? The only test she did was a urinalysis. She hugged me at the end of my

visit and told me she would pray for me. I thought that was all well and good,

and was grateful for that, but I was there to get help and diagnosed not to be

told, the UA was fine, and that I'll pray for you! It was so validating to

finally have a doctor say this is what you have and this is how we will treat

it.

michellefollet <michellefollet@...> wrote: ---

In , stephanie <stephieann2@...> wrote:

Hi,

I was interested in reading you email as before I was diagnosed with

fibro myalgia, I suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/ME. This was

not diagnosed until about 12mths after contracting Estein bar virus.

I was sent for countless test that all came back negetive. I had gone

from a hyperactive mother of three working at night and doing areobics

a couple of times a week. When I got ill I couldn't get out of bed

and thought that I was going to die. I physically had no control

over my body, I had to crawl to get to the toilet. It was really

terrible and I too was told I was anxious and needed to see a

psychiatrist. They thought I was suffering from depression. And the

pain I had was from fibro myalgia but that was not regonised at the

time !!!

I knew I wasn't depressed I wanted to do things and live my life, my

body just wouldn't co operate. Of course any illness can make you

feel depressed after a while which is understandable, but there is a

difference.

Finally I started to get a diagnosis and from then I have gone on to

have RA.

But I can fully understand people's frustration when they can't get

any answers. As you said we know 'it is not in our heads' !!! And at

times I have had to deal with people's ignorance, they cannot see our

pain, so sometimes they don't understand that it exsists !!!

Hang in there, .

> I completely agree that tests should definitely be done first. When

I first became ill several years ago (I am 36 now), they couldn't

figure out what was wrong at first. They thought it was my anxiety

stressing my body out. Then I found a really good family doctor and

they finally diagnosed the Fibromyalgia (although some doctors feel

this is a " in your head " diagnosis) I find that more believe in the

disease than those in the minority. It's just always frustrating to

not have a doctor believe in it...We know when we hurt and we know our

bodies and we KNOW it's not in our heads.

>

> unicornrobot <proedge21@...> wrote:

Thank you , I am hoping he will send me for tests. I know the road

> is long for a diagnosis...but to start out with a psychiatrist

> before testing is a bit extream.

> I am depressed but only because I am in so much pain. Over the

> counter pain relievers do not help.

>

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> > For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

> legs ,

> > wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> > disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

> with

> > extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

> interfering

> > with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

> low

> > grade fever.

> > Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> > routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> > general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

> test

> > run for a general physical.

> > This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now maybe

> he

> > will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> > what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

> and

> > fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

> anything

> > wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

> joints.)

> > He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him NO

> > you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist or

> > order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> > says.

> > I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> > 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

> and

> > brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> > possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

> rule

> > out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> > dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

> for

> > pain and fatigue?

> >

June 4, 2008

Hi...

Regular Docs and Rhuemy's all seem to have the attitude that they are not

there for you to talk to them about how you're feeling. Most don't have the

time to listen anyway, and can't help...since they aren't psychiatrist. Kinda

blunt...but it's the truth. A good therapist is helpful.....gives you someone

to talk to about what you are going through. Luckily...my wife seems to

understand. She has lower back and foot problems and understands that I am in

pain 24-7-365. I am lucky since my RA has continued to respond to Embrel

perfectly....just as the doc hoped it would. I don't have many flare ups, and

when I do, they are usually the day before I get my next shot. My

OA....different story. I am house bound right now until my parts for my leg

brace get here....as a couple of screws that are important to it stripped and

need to be replaced. I really can't walk much without my leg brace....so I am

home stuck doing laundry!!!!! Oh well...me and my Bichon's are curled up in

my chair while I am writing to ya'll!!!

One of the great things about the list is it gives you a place to vent/cry/get

angry/cry some more/ and just flat out get mad. It's okay...we will listen and

give you a shoulder to cry on!!! That's what we are here for!!!

Larry, Peek-a-boo and little Tommy...signing out!!!

Larry Holmack

KarLa Bichon Frise

Humble Texas Bichondaddy1057@...

June 4, 2008

Sorry, I am getting on this kinda late. My grandma is in hospice and

my husband wants to file for legal seperation and that has been the

past 48 hours. I agree with on this, you need to see a

rheumatologist and get the correct labs done. You can ask to see

another doctor through your insurance. I have been told to see a

psychiatrist on more then one occasion. I was told that I was a drug

seeker, I had Munchausion, etc. This didn't work for me, but just

because it didn't work for me, doesn't mean that it would work for

you. You can see a pain management pychiatrist. These guys are

trained to help people w/ chronic pain disorders. They can teach you

biofeedback. It's kinda relaxation therapy.

I have mild bi-polar, depression and PTSD...so I have other issues

that I feel need to be addressed in therapy for me. Get to a

rheumatologist and if you feel you need to get into behavoiral

health...try to find a provider who deals with only chronic pain

patients and can teach you biofeedback. Best of luck to you.

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> > For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

> legs ,

> > wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> > disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

> with

> > extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

> interfering

> > with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

> low

> > grade fever.

> > Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> > routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> > general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

> test

> > run for a general physical.

> > This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now

maybe

> he

> > will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> > what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

> and

> > fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

> anything

> > wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

> joints.)

> > He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him

NO

> > you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist

or

> > order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> > says.

> > I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> > 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

> and

> > brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> > possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

> rule

> > out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> > dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

> for

> > pain and fatigue?

> >

June 4, 2008

hi larry, im SORRY you're not feeling up to par right now.my ra PAIN is pretty

much the same as yours & it sux!! i also have severe osteoporosis along with

neuropathy.. i just started to walk a couple of days ago due to severe

pain,constant unbearable pain. at least you're doing laundry, i could not even

use my hands at that time but now i can. praise our lord, he so watches over me

& my family!! so right now im catching up on the posts, so i thought i would

write you if thats o.k.larry? my pcp also told me to see a psychiatrist. i told

him im in PAIN NOT CRAZY!! he replied, " it would help to talk about my feelings "

i told him i have plenty of people to talk to when im down &

out(hub,sisters,brothers,aunts,cousins,mother-in-law, & last but least my best

friends.) i have an 11yr.old but thats when im lonely & sad, other than that i

have my support system on STANDBY!!!! you are right larry, we can vent,cry,get

mad,etc. so to me this ra support group is now

my extended family & gina is AWESOME & VERY INFORMATIVE IF EVER WE NEED HELP!!!

hope you feel BETTER SOON,LARRY. god bless,melyndagamez 6/4/08 9:30p.m.central

time

[ ] Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and

fatigue?

Hi...

Regular Docs and Rhuemy's all seem to have the attitude that they are not

there for you to talk to them about how you're feeling. Most don't have the

time to listen anyway, and can't help...since they aren't psychiatrist. Kinda

blunt....but it's the truth. A good therapist is helpful.....gives you someone

to talk to about what you are going through. Luckily...my wife seems to

understand. She has lower back and foot problems and understands that I am in

pain 24-7-365. I am lucky since my RA has continued to respond to Embrel

perfectly....just as the doc hoped it would. I don't have many flare ups, and

when I do, they are usually the day before I get my next shot. My

OA....different story. I am house bound right now until my parts for my leg

brace get here....as a couple of screws that are important to it stripped and

need to be replaced. I really can't walk much without my leg brace.....so I am

home stuck doing laundry!!!!! Oh well...me and

my Bichon's are curled up in

my chair while I am writing to ya'll!!!

One of the great things about the list is it gives you a place to vent/cry/get

angry/cry some more/ and just flat out get mad. It's okay....we will listen and

give you a shoulder to cry on!!! That's what we are here for!!!

Larry, Peek-a-boo and little Tommy...signing out!!!

Larry Holmack

KarLa Bichon Frise

Humble Texas Bichondaddy1057@...

June 4, 2008

hi nicole im sorry to hear about your grandma & the situation with the hub as

well. what else could go wrong. i HOPE THINGS GET BETTER FOR YOU, I'LL KEEP YOU

IN MY PRAYERS.

[ ] Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and

fatigue?

Sorry, I am getting on this kinda late. My grandma is in hospice and

my husband wants to file for legal seperation and that has been the

past 48 hours. I agree with on this, you need to see a

rheumatologist and get the correct labs done. You can ask to see

another doctor through your insurance. I have been told to see a

psychiatrist on more then one occasion. I was told that I was a drug

seeker, I had Munchausion, etc. This didn't work for me, but just

because it didn't work for me, doesn't mean that it would work for

you. You can see a pain management pychiatrist. These guys are

trained to help people w/ chronic pain disorders. They can teach you

biofeedback. It's kinda relaxation therapy.

I have mild bi-polar, depression and PTSD...so I have other issues

that I feel need to be addressed in therapy for me. Get to a

rheumatologist and if you feel you need to get into behavoiral

health...try to find a provider who deals with only chronic pain

patients and can teach you biofeedback. Best of luck to you.

> Hello, I am 41 Female ,

> > For the past 4 years I have been experiencing pain in my

> legs ,

> > wrist , fingers , ankles and toes. The pain would at times

> > disappears for months. As of the last year I have been dealing

> with

> > extreme fatigue along with the joint pain. The pain is

> interfering

> > with daily life. I also started having muscle pain . Along with

> low

> > grade fever.

> > Two weeks ago I finally had enough and saw a Doctor. He ordered

> > routine blood tests. No sedrate or ANA test was ordered. Just a

> > general lipid , CBC with Diff and metabolic comp .The standard

> test

> > run for a general physical.

> > This week I went in to get the results (thinking ok now

maybe

> he

> > will order a sedrate and ANA) . The doctor look at me and said ,

> > what do you want? I reminded him I was here to see him for pain

> and

> > fatigue. He stated I see nothing in your report to indicate

> anything

> > wrong.(He never took a medical history or even examined my

> joints.)

> > He then told me to see a physiatrist. At this point I told him

NO

> > you need to do your job and either send me to a Rheumatologist

or

> > order a Sedrate and ANA. He looked shocked and said OK ,or so he

> > says.

> > I took a look at the blood report and my WBC is flagged at high

> > 11.5 . My glucose is Serum is 115. He never mentioned anything

> and

> > brushed me off. It is my understanding WBC over 10.5 indicates

> > possible inflammation. My question is can a standard blood test

> rule

> > out connective tissue? Should an ANA and sedrate be ordered when

> > dealing with joint pain? Anyone else told to see a psychiatrist

> for

> > pain and fatigue?

> >

June 4, 2008

Hello,

Does anyone know if there is an aid (like a bandage or brace) that will help

keep my palms flat while I sleep?

I have noticed in the last 3 months I wake up in pain, with my hands drawn

together-thumb to little finger. It hurts to straighten them out. I am hoping

there is something to wear to keep it from happening.

Larry- do you show Bichons? I breed/show Smooth Miniature Dachshunds

E Abbott

[ ] Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and

fatigue?

Hi...

Regular Docs and Rhuemy's all seem to have the attitude that they are not

there for you to talk to them about how you're feeling. Most don't have the time

to listen anyway, and can't help...since they aren't psychiatrist. Kinda

blunt...but it's the truth. A good therapist is helpful.....gives you someone to

talk to about what you are going through. Luckily...my wife seems to understand.

She has lower back and foot problems and understands that I am in pain 24-7-365.

I am lucky since my RA has continued to respond to Embrel perfectly....just as

the doc hoped it would. I don't have many flare ups, and when I do, they are

usually the day before I get my next shot. My OA....different story. I am house

bound right now until my parts for my leg brace get here....as a couple of

screws that are important to it stripped and need to be replaced. I really can't

walk much without my leg brace....so I am home stuck doing laundry!!!!! Oh

well...me and my Bichon's are curled up in

my chair while I am writing to ya'll!!!

One of the great things about the list is it gives you a place to vent/cry/get

angry/cry some more/ and just flat out get mad. It's okay...we will listen and

give you a shoulder to cry on!!! That's what we are here for!!!

Larry, Peek-a-boo and little Tommy...signing out!!!

Larry Holmack

KarLa Bichon Frise

Humble Texas Bichondaddy1057@...

June 4, 2008

I wear a thumb support/brace which is readily available in chain pharmacies, wal

mart etc...

It goes on like a glove and gives the fingers suport. Open it in the store

and try it on. Wear it for 5 minutes or so before purchasing. If you swell you

may need a different size. Good luck.

laura abbott <petalpshr@...> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know if there is an aid (like a bandage or brace) that will help

keep my palms flat while I sleep?

I have noticed in the last 3 months I wake up in pain, with my hands drawn

together-thumb to little finger. It hurts to straighten them out. I am hoping

there is something to wear to keep it from happening.

Larry- do you show Bichons? I breed/show Smooth Miniature Dachshunds

E Abbott

[ ] Re: Doctor told me to see psychiatrist for pain and

fatigue?

Hi...

Regular Docs and Rhuemy's all seem to have the attitude that they are not there

for you to talk to them about how you're feeling. Most don't have the time to

listen anyway, and can't help...since they aren't psychiatrist. Kinda