Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... _ (mailto:dignacassens@...?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@..._ (mailto:Dineright4@...) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... _ (mailto:dignacassens@...?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@..._ (mailto:Dineright4@...) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subjec\ t= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subjec\ t= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. 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Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 A-ha-ha!! Jan, I guess there's always something lost in translation when I'm involved. In Spanish we use the word " condimentos " to indicate " seasonings " , so I assumed the original request referred to herbs and spices. I don't have nor did I develop a condiments in the English language meaning of any type. And as you know, I agree with all your comments, below. Again you lift my spirit and improve my mood even at the end of a marginally productive (as judged by my numbers) but incredibly busy and beneficial (for the residents I managed and nurses I worked with) day. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . ..) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> ?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> _ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> ) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 A-ha-ha!! Jan, I guess there's always something lost in translation when I'm involved. In Spanish we use the word " condimentos " to indicate " seasonings " , so I assumed the original request referred to herbs and spices. I don't have nor did I develop a condiments in the English language meaning of any type. And as you know, I agree with all your comments, below. Again you lift my spirit and improve my mood even at the end of a marginally productive (as judged by my numbers) but incredibly busy and beneficial (for the residents I managed and nurses I worked with) day. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . ..) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> ?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> _ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> ) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 A-ha-ha!! Jan, I guess there's always something lost in translation when I'm involved. In Spanish we use the word " condimentos " to indicate " seasonings " , so I assumed the original request referred to herbs and spices. I don't have nor did I develop a condiments in the English language meaning of any type. And as you know, I agree with all your comments, below. Again you lift my spirit and improve my mood even at the end of a marginally productive (as judged by my numbers) but incredibly busy and beneficial (for the residents I managed and nurses I worked with) day. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:41 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . ..) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> ?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> _ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> ) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> -_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm not discrediting the First Lady for this. I'm objecting to her not including our profession in the way she could have done from the beginning if this were more than an obligatory hobby bc every first lady has to have one. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:26 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-piz za-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . ..) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.co m> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> ?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 I'm not discrediting the First Lady for this. I'm objecting to her not including our profession in the way she could have done from the beginning if this were more than an obligatory hobby bc every first lady has to have one. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:26 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-piz za-as-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . ..) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.co m> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> ?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 First, tomato is technically a fruit, not a veggie. Second, the First Lady, nor any other part of the President's administration, nor the Federal government for that matter, should have anything to do with school lunch policies. It just doesn't pass the test of the Constitution limitations on the Gov. Of course, neither does much of what they do, despite swearing an oath to defend and uphold it. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:26 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><\ mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 First, tomato is technically a fruit, not a veggie. Second, the First Lady, nor any other part of the President's administration, nor the Federal government for that matter, should have anything to do with school lunch policies. It just doesn't pass the test of the Constitution limitations on the Gov. Of course, neither does much of what they do, despite swearing an oath to defend and uphold it. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:26 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><\ mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 First, tomato is technically a fruit, not a veggie. Second, the First Lady, nor any other part of the President's administration, nor the Federal government for that matter, should have anything to do with school lunch policies. It just doesn't pass the test of the Constitution limitations on the Gov. Of course, neither does much of what they do, despite swearing an oath to defend and uphold it. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:26 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><\ mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive..  Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive..  Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive..  Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dign\ acassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto\ :dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Subject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%4\ 0yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.\ com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogr\ oups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Digna,  And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't.  Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Digna,  And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't.  Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Digna,  And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't.  Madalyn ________________________________ To: rd-usa Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659  Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. Thank you, Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. Thank you, Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. Thank you, Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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