Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am afraid it is to late to put that genie back in the bottle. A little helpful nutritional news would be nice. Something to do with humans not mice. Preferably something tasty and good for you like chocolate. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham AK > Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. > > Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. > > Thank you, > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am afraid it is to late to put that genie back in the bottle. A little helpful nutritional news would be nice. Something to do with humans not mice. Preferably something tasty and good for you like chocolate. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham AK > Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. > > Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. > > Thank you, > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I am afraid it is to late to put that genie back in the bottle. A little helpful nutritional news would be nice. Something to do with humans not mice. Preferably something tasty and good for you like chocolate. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham AK > Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. > > Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. > > Thank you, > Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. > N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) > www.newlifeforhealth.com > e-mail: newlife4health@..., newlife@... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Diane, Since the way politicians rule and agencies fund actually dictates the public’s need and ability to use our services I completely disagree with your comment. Politics helps grease the wheel and keep the pork barrels full. Our profession, the healthcare profession, depends on politics. Othersie, why are most people dependent on what their insurance pays for healthcare services, and will buy a $50K Porche, and a $500 pair of Famolares, but resent paying $150 bucks for nutrition services that could save their lives? Nah, they’d rather go for another manicure/pedicure and pay a $5 co-pay for the RD. The Academy sponsors many listserves that don’t allow this type of discussion and sensor and reprimand it severely. If we want bland agreement and more controlled, less controversial comments, that’s the “go to†place. I thank the forward thinker that owns this list, and keeps quiet for the most part until we get ourselves into trouble. It takes more self-control than I have, that’s for sure. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:03 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. Thank you, Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@... <mailto:newlife4health%40aol.com> , newlife@... <mailto:newlife%40newlifeforhealth.com> Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Diane, Since the way politicians rule and agencies fund actually dictates the public’s need and ability to use our services I completely disagree with your comment. Politics helps grease the wheel and keep the pork barrels full. Our profession, the healthcare profession, depends on politics. Othersie, why are most people dependent on what their insurance pays for healthcare services, and will buy a $50K Porche, and a $500 pair of Famolares, but resent paying $150 bucks for nutrition services that could save their lives? Nah, they’d rather go for another manicure/pedicure and pay a $5 co-pay for the RD. The Academy sponsors many listserves that don’t allow this type of discussion and sensor and reprimand it severely. If we want bland agreement and more controlled, less controversial comments, that’s the “go to†place. I thank the forward thinker that owns this list, and keeps quiet for the most part until we get ourselves into trouble. It takes more self-control than I have, that’s for sure. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 8:03 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Wow. FYI, Santorum's wife is a NICU nurse AND a lawyer. I'm sure she isn't " forced " to be home with her kids, and she does seem to be wearing shoes on the campaign trail too. Can we keep this list focused on helpful nutrition info and issues? Our political opinions are best shared elsewhere. Thank you, Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. N.E.W. LIFE (Nutrition, Exercise, Wellness for LIFE) www.newlifeforhealth.com e-mail: newlife4health@... <mailto:newlife4health%40aol.com> , newlife@... <mailto:newlife%40newlifeforhealth.com> Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I don’t campaign for or against because of their state or country of origin or their religion. I do object to some practices, policies, dictums and beliefs as well as to any dogma that damns a race, sex or gender and limits freedom. I have personally known, still call friends, and worked for many people who practice the Mormon religion, and disagree with some practices but respect others. The thing is, although we are what we eat, we aren’t who we vote for, agree with, or rules us. I do not believe that the false promises made by politicians are true, because so far none have come to fruition. What party they are representing does not hide their lies years later. It’s like taking a tour through Universal Studios or the Wax Museum, what you see is not what you get, and if the AC goes off during a hot spell the façade goes away as the wax melts. During the 10 or so years I worked in Utah (commuting from CA) my only complaint was I wasn’t able to buy liquor where/when I wanted to. I was treated the same as I am here, I worked the same, I didn’t see any pregnant females running around barefoot. Are there multiple wives? Yes indeed! I’m glad I’m not one of them. Are there multiple husbands? Hell, no! Hmm, too bad for me. Is there abuse of young girls recruited for early bridehood? I’m sure there is although I did not witness it, nor did I find out about it until it became national news. However, t What I’m saying is, if enough women don’t vote for Santorum and there are not enough votes then he won’t win. But if they do, and he wins, then that’s what the majority chose including all the women that voted for him. That is the system your country created and uses. If all of the people in the US and territories don’t like it, then change it! Take away their power, change congress, change the senate, forbid campaigning the way they do, and forbit $38K a plate campaign and fund raising dinners. Take away their private jets including AF 1 & AF 2, take away their paid vacations, cushioned chairs, aides and interns, free dinners, free limos, free rides. Then things will change. In the meantime, damning our own members for expressing their opposite pole opinions rudely and with accusatory statements masked behind “nutrition†is wrong and petty, and not really facing the reality we’re living in. That’s all I’m saying. And really Madalyn, neither of us is in danger of being pregnant, although I like running around barefooted in summer. You know I love and respect you, but please, look around at the way others are and live, and what your and my daughters and g/children are facing now and in their futures, bc I don’t see anything nice. And as far as my comments before. We are struggling as a profession, yet we cannot even get along via emails on a listserve. How can we come to agreements and work together towards a common goal, ignoring politics, race, gender, sex, religion? Until we do that, we can’t. So we’ll always be the way we’ve been………… Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Madalyn Friedberg Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:22 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't. Madalyn ________________________________ From: Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I don’t campaign for or against because of their state or country of origin or their religion. I do object to some practices, policies, dictums and beliefs as well as to any dogma that damns a race, sex or gender and limits freedom. I have personally known, still call friends, and worked for many people who practice the Mormon religion, and disagree with some practices but respect others. The thing is, although we are what we eat, we aren’t who we vote for, agree with, or rules us. I do not believe that the false promises made by politicians are true, because so far none have come to fruition. What party they are representing does not hide their lies years later. It’s like taking a tour through Universal Studios or the Wax Museum, what you see is not what you get, and if the AC goes off during a hot spell the façade goes away as the wax melts. During the 10 or so years I worked in Utah (commuting from CA) my only complaint was I wasn’t able to buy liquor where/when I wanted to. I was treated the same as I am here, I worked the same, I didn’t see any pregnant females running around barefoot. Are there multiple wives? Yes indeed! I’m glad I’m not one of them. Are there multiple husbands? Hell, no! Hmm, too bad for me. Is there abuse of young girls recruited for early bridehood? I’m sure there is although I did not witness it, nor did I find out about it until it became national news. However, t What I’m saying is, if enough women don’t vote for Santorum and there are not enough votes then he won’t win. But if they do, and he wins, then that’s what the majority chose including all the women that voted for him. That is the system your country created and uses. If all of the people in the US and territories don’t like it, then change it! Take away their power, change congress, change the senate, forbid campaigning the way they do, and forbit $38K a plate campaign and fund raising dinners. Take away their private jets including AF 1 & AF 2, take away their paid vacations, cushioned chairs, aides and interns, free dinners, free limos, free rides. Then things will change. In the meantime, damning our own members for expressing their opposite pole opinions rudely and with accusatory statements masked behind “nutrition†is wrong and petty, and not really facing the reality we’re living in. That’s all I’m saying. And really Madalyn, neither of us is in danger of being pregnant, although I like running around barefooted in summer. You know I love and respect you, but please, look around at the way others are and live, and what your and my daughters and g/children are facing now and in their futures, bc I don’t see anything nice. And as far as my comments before. We are struggling as a profession, yet we cannot even get along via emails on a listserve. How can we come to agreements and work together towards a common goal, ignoring politics, race, gender, sex, religion? Until we do that, we can’t. So we’ll always be the way we’ve been………… Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Madalyn Friedberg Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:22 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't. Madalyn ________________________________ From: Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I don’t campaign for or against because of their state or country of origin or their religion. I do object to some practices, policies, dictums and beliefs as well as to any dogma that damns a race, sex or gender and limits freedom. I have personally known, still call friends, and worked for many people who practice the Mormon religion, and disagree with some practices but respect others. The thing is, although we are what we eat, we aren’t who we vote for, agree with, or rules us. I do not believe that the false promises made by politicians are true, because so far none have come to fruition. What party they are representing does not hide their lies years later. It’s like taking a tour through Universal Studios or the Wax Museum, what you see is not what you get, and if the AC goes off during a hot spell the façade goes away as the wax melts. During the 10 or so years I worked in Utah (commuting from CA) my only complaint was I wasn’t able to buy liquor where/when I wanted to. I was treated the same as I am here, I worked the same, I didn’t see any pregnant females running around barefoot. Are there multiple wives? Yes indeed! I’m glad I’m not one of them. Are there multiple husbands? Hell, no! Hmm, too bad for me. Is there abuse of young girls recruited for early bridehood? I’m sure there is although I did not witness it, nor did I find out about it until it became national news. However, t What I’m saying is, if enough women don’t vote for Santorum and there are not enough votes then he won’t win. But if they do, and he wins, then that’s what the majority chose including all the women that voted for him. That is the system your country created and uses. If all of the people in the US and territories don’t like it, then change it! Take away their power, change congress, change the senate, forbid campaigning the way they do, and forbit $38K a plate campaign and fund raising dinners. Take away their private jets including AF 1 & AF 2, take away their paid vacations, cushioned chairs, aides and interns, free dinners, free limos, free rides. Then things will change. In the meantime, damning our own members for expressing their opposite pole opinions rudely and with accusatory statements masked behind “nutrition†is wrong and petty, and not really facing the reality we’re living in. That’s all I’m saying. And really Madalyn, neither of us is in danger of being pregnant, although I like running around barefooted in summer. You know I love and respect you, but please, look around at the way others are and live, and what your and my daughters and g/children are facing now and in their futures, bc I don’t see anything nice. And as far as my comments before. We are struggling as a profession, yet we cannot even get along via emails on a listserve. How can we come to agreements and work together towards a common goal, ignoring politics, race, gender, sex, religion? Until we do that, we can’t. So we’ll always be the way we’ve been………… Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Madalyn Friedberg Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:22 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't. Madalyn ________________________________ From: Digna Cassens <dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> > To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@... <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@... <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@... <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@... <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@... <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Digna, I agree with you too. It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental, like if you are a woman who votes for Santorum this comment makes it sound like you are either crazy or beneath this woman's ability to value. But I see where you are coming from, and I agree. Just that the tone sounded unprofessional, and I didn't expect it on a listserv that I thought was safe from unprofessional judgements. I can get that on Facebook. Respectfully, Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Digna, I agree with you too. It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental, like if you are a woman who votes for Santorum this comment makes it sound like you are either crazy or beneath this woman's ability to value. But I see where you are coming from, and I agree. Just that the tone sounded unprofessional, and I didn't expect it on a listserv that I thought was safe from unprofessional judgements. I can get that on Facebook. Respectfully, Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Digna, I agree with you too. It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental, like if you are a woman who votes for Santorum this comment makes it sound like you are either crazy or beneath this woman's ability to value. But I see where you are coming from, and I agree. Just that the tone sounded unprofessional, and I didn't expect it on a listserv that I thought was safe from unprofessional judgements. I can get that on Facebook. Respectfully, Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Besides, we all get one vote. Nobody should be demeaned or criticized (even ahead of time) for the way they might vote. Furthermore, if Santorum is President, he would not put Madalyn, nor her daughters or grandaughters, barefoot in the kitchen. However, if we keep losing jobs at the rate we are now, we might be barefoot and in our kitchens more. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, I’m sure he’s going to get laws passed making sure women stay barefoot and pregnant. His wife and daughter are professionals, by the way. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Madalyn Friedberg Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:22 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, And if Santorum is the nominee how can any woman vote for him...I don't want to be bare foot and pregnant and I am sure my daughters and granddaughters don't. Madalyn ________________________________ From: Digna Cassens <dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:08 AM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Did you clock your time? Goodness, if we don’t stick together even with opposing views, we really are done for now… No hope for our future. We’re sleeping with the enemy, the enemy is us. Everyone has to stop being bitchy to each other. Jan was not and her apology was well intended and should be accepted. Truthfully, it’s like, who cares? Why are we arguing over tomato sauce vs ketchup vs a fresh tomato at this point when there are so many really crucial issues not only to our country’s future, but to the world’s? Get off the political blame. After all, who votes for all these “winners� and who’s actually simple enough to believe the words their publicists puts in front of them? Ladies, GROW UP! (note I didn’t say gents, bc I have yet to read one of these from our male colleagues. There must be a good reason for that. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD Cassens Associates - Diversified Nutrition Consulting Services PO Box 581 La Habra, CA 90633 From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:27 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Thanks Tina for keeping your response positive.. Jan's " rant " doesn't even deserve a second more of our time.... ________________________________ From: Green <kgreen@...<mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> <mailto:kgreen%40gcrmc.org> > To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 That is a very good article and points out the fact that no one has once said that Pizza is counted as a veggie or even pizza sauce, just tomato paste, which is contained in pizza sauce, as well as spaghetti sauce, and marinara sauce. However the focus has hit pizza and stopped there. This is not a new issue, this controversy has been going on ever since I can remember with both tomato's and tomato derivatives. Its not just this administration, this one is just getting hit harder because for once we have a first lady who is active in trying to help get nutritional information out there and promote health for our kids. Lets give her credit for that rather than just blaming her for a controversy that has been around since I was a kid. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of , a [DOC] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 9:55 AM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/did-congress-declare-pizza-a\ s-a-vegetable-not-exactly/2011/11/20/gIQABXgmhN_blog.html Tina , RD, LD IMCC Clinical Dietitian From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:41 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Mea Culpa, I send over 120 emails a day, on a normal day, 99% of them fully work/business, not dpg/listserv related. Stop reading now if you're politically sensitive. And, I'd read that Michele Obama was supporting the pizza sauce as veggie bill. (If you sleep with the president, are you NOT a part of his administration?) - Oh, unless you're Hillary, who I don't know what she does since her daughter was born, since her hubby has been sleeping with other women for 30+ years now, and she's known it all along - we've known some of his body guards when he was in ARK - her " disbelief during the Lewinski trials was all faked and pulled the wool over SO many American women's eyes. . . they actually felt sorry for her. . .sigh. Folks, sometimes nutrition IS politics - and who you should believe/or not. Sadly, most politicians can't be believed. But, I digress. . . ;-} Sorry, couldn't resist. (If you're offended, you were WARNED to stop reading earlier, so don't complain now!) First lady Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced the new guidelines during a visit Wednesday with elementary students. And, yes, I was " thinking " pizza sauce, but " said " catsup. . . .-But, that was in error too, since I don't consider pizza sauce as a condiment. . . And, I know very few pizzas that spread 2 T. tom paste per slice. (It seems commercial pizza rarely has but a little slathering of tomato on it. . .) Digna - re: " Condiment Chart " - I'd assume that's a lot different than a " Spice Chart " that I used when Food Service Director years ago. I clearly don't consider herbs and spices " condiments " - other than pepper. But, my new favorite condiment, chimichurri sauce, IS full of herbs. (I've been hanging out with a few Argentineans this winter.) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/24/2012 6:48:21 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Digest Number 3658 _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28030;_ylc=X3oDMTJzdnA1b2JsBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwN TA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAzMARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzMwMDkxMjk4) Posted by: " Digna Cassens " _dignacassens@...<mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:_dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> _ (mailto:dignacassens@...<mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com> <mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com><mailto:dignacassens%40roadrunner.com>?Sub\ ject= Re:%20Digest%20Number%203658) _dignacassens _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/dignacassens) Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:12 am (PST) When the First Nutritionist speaks .. There you go! And of course she's near getting her advanced credentials since she attended an Academy (AND) walkathon or some such thing in FL. Digna From: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) [mailto:_rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) ] On Behalf Of _Dineright4@...<mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din> <mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din><mailto:_Dineright4%40aol.Din>_ (mailto:Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>) Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:53 AM To: _rd-usa@...<mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd> <mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd><mailto:_rd-usa%40yahoogroups.rd>-_ (mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>) Subject: Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Are you attributing Madalyn’s comment to me? Or did you find my comment unprofessional? If it sounded that way please point out to me where. I really believe and support free speech as a constitutional right in this country. Rules were not broken as there was no porn and no profanity. Madalyn has as much a right to express her concerns as the rest of us, and she did. I’ve never met anyone more professional in her conduct and approach and am privileged to be among her friends and professional associates. I personally did not find any of this discussion unprofessional, as each of us participating in the debate expressed their fears and opinions quite well. In a sponsored list, the “monitors†would send a warning message. Here we all have to control ourselves and get along. I personally have learned a lot from this discussion, which as far as I’m concerned we’ve beaten to death and I must abandon now. Digna From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:28 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, I agree with you too. It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental, like if you are a woman who votes for Santorum this comment makes it sound like you are either crazy or beneath this woman's ability to value. But I see where you are coming from, and I agree. Just that the tone sounded unprofessional, and I didn't expect it on a listserv that I thought was safe from unprofessional judgements. I can get that on Facebook. Respectfully, Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Digna, You are being very defensive--I said I AGREE with your comments!!! Read again. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 “It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental,†I’m glad you also spoke in support of Madalyn, then. I have nothing to be defensive about regarding my own statements and opinions. I stated support for many colleagues throughout this debate. Now I’m done with it. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:35 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, You are being very defensive--I said I AGREE with your comments!!! Read again. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Hey, Digna. Go drink a margarita! With salt! ) Dave W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:57 PM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 “It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental,†I’m glad you also spoke in support of Madalyn, then. I have nothing to be defensive about regarding my own statements and opinions. I stated support for many colleagues throughout this debate. Now I’m done with it. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:35 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, You are being very defensive--I said I AGREE with your comments!!! Read again. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sure thing, are you buying? Maybe I should just give caffeine again. J From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Rowell, Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:20 PM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Hey, Digna. Go drink a margarita! With salt! ) Dave W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:57 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 “It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental,†I’m glad you also spoke in support of Madalyn, then. I have nothing to be defensive about regarding my own statements and opinions. I stated support for many colleagues throughout this debate. Now I’m done with it. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:35 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, You are being very defensive--I said I AGREE with your comments!!! Read again. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I “buy†those little buckets of margarita mix that you add tequila (cheap stuff) to and freeze. You’d have to come here to share it with me. From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:19 PM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Sure thing, are you buying? Maybe I should just give caffeine again. J From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Rowell, Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:20 PM To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 Hey, Digna. Go drink a margarita! With salt! ) Dave W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:57 PM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: Digest Number 3659 “It's just that the " how can any woman vote for him " comment crossed the line--sounded judgemental,†I’m glad you also spoke in support of Madalyn, then. I have nothing to be defensive about regarding my own statements and opinions. I stated support for many colleagues throughout this debate. Now I’m done with it. From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Diane Preves, M.S., R.D. Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:35 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Digest Number 3659 Digna, You are being very defensive--I said I AGREE with your comments!!! Read again. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . .. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Madalyn, Apology accepted. No problem--glad we could resolve in good will (for the list's sake too I understand how " cryptic " e-mail communication can be when we quickly communicate a thought. Doesn't always come out so well on the receiver's end. Diane Re: Digest Number 3658 Well, what's " appropriate " Well, what's " appropriate " <WBR>? If Obama vegetable, then recommendations should be to use unlimited amounts, as we'd recommend unlimited intake of vegetables. Same for french fries. . . sigh . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I purchased some really nice dark 80% flavioids semi sweet with dried cherry pieces and chile, heaven. If I can remember where I want my son to buy more for me. Jackie Chase RD Dillingham AK > Thanks Jackie. Nice comment. Make sure the chocolate is dark, not milk. They > say it's better for you. > > Digna J > > F > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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