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Ali:

I would say that at this point, you could have a better quality of life. Most

good docs want to see you at a five/six pain level, three/four is even better.

I understand that you do not want to take pain meds with the ambien, but people

can and do take them successfully together all the time. I am one. If you are

just not comfortable, you might think about asking your doc for a pain med to

take at other times of the day, or just as a " rescue " med when your other meds

just aren't working on a particular day.

You have a lot of options ahead of you. I hope you and your doctor can work

together as a team and come up with what's right for you.

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with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and wrong, because sometime

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---- ali3787 <ali3787@...> wrote:

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Hi everyone. Sorry, I feel like I don't ever have much to contribute in the way

of helping

anyone else. I am still new to this disease and have so many questions still.

I am going to

the dr next Fri and am wondering what to ask. I have been on mtx again for 6

weeks now. I

went through my journal and the first time I took it I had total relief in the

3-4 week range. I

had to go off of it for surgery and stayed off for 3 months and then started

back again. I

don't get any bad side effects from it but I feel like all of my joints are on

fire. Like there is

glass in them. The prednisone is keeping the inflammation at bay but I have

7/10 pain

constantly and if it shoots higher it pretty much stops me in my tracks. My

drugs are mtx,

prednisone, celebrex, plaquenil, folic acid, and ambien to help me through the

night, though

it isn't really doing much to keep me asleep. My question is how long do I go

on like this or

do I ask my dr about the biologics? I am affraid to take any pain meds with the

ambien.

Anyone have advise or a similar story? And do you continue to take mtx with the

biologics? I

hope I remember all these thing to talk to the dr about. Thank you for any

shared thoughts.

Gently,

Ali

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Thanks Dodge. Are you taking the biologics? How do they even chose one for

you? Fight any good fires lately? Any saves or just the frequent fliers. I

wish I could work again. I just need to be alright enough to care for my

family. I have a two and a three year old girls that make me work harder than I

ever did on the road. We may get a call while we are using the facilities but

at least I am going by myself and there is no toddler wanting to inspect my code

brown and the other has sinched my belt tight around my ankles so I couldn't

move fast if I tried. Flip side is their bodily functions don't bother me a

bit.

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> Hi everyone. Sorry, I feel like I don't ever have much

> to contribute in the way of helping

> anyone else. I am still new to this disease and have so

> many questions still. I am going to

> the dr next Fri and am wondering what to ask. I have been

> on mtx again for 6 weeks now. I

> went through my journal and the first time I took it I had

> total relief in the 3-4 week range. I

> had to go off of it for surgery and stayed off for 3 months

> and then started back again. I

> don't get any bad side effects from it but I feel like

> all of my joints are on fire. Like there is

> glass in them. The prednisone is keeping the inflammation

> at bay but I have 7/10 pain

> constantly and if it shoots higher it pretty much stops me

> in my tracks. My drugs are mtx,

> prednisone, celebrex, plaquenil, folic acid, and ambien to

> help me through the night, though

> it isn't really doing much to keep me asleep. My

> question is how long do I go on like this or

> do I ask my dr about the biologics? I am affraid to take

> any pain meds with the ambien.

> Anyone have advise or a similar story? And do you continue

> to take mtx with the biologics? I

> hope I remember all these thing to talk to the dr about.

> Thank you for any shared thoughts.

> Gently,

> Ali

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Ali,

I am sorry that the pain level is staying that high. I know that you

are weary of hurting. Keep on with your journal and list all of your

questions in it also. I feel certain that your rheummy has some sort

of time frame that he is looking for results in. If you have not

stressed to your rheummy how bad the pain is staying, you need to.

I think the reason my rheummy decided to try stronger meds is

because of my extreme fatigue and my wrists changes. It was pretty

clear that the MTX was not controlling it. I will be taking the MTX

in addition to Enbrel.

I can only imagine how hard it is for you with the two little ones.

God Bless you, Sweetie. Motherhood is difficult for totally healthy

women.

Don't be concerned that you feel you don't have much to contribute.

I have seen you post support for others when they are having a hard

time. I know that it is appreciated.

I pray that you have a better day today.

Shirley

>

> Hi everyone. Sorry, I feel like I don't ever have much to

contribute in the way of helping

> anyone else. I am still new to this disease and have so many

questions still. I am going to

> the dr next Fri and am wondering what to ask. I have been on mtx

again for 6 weeks now. I

> went through my journal and the first time I took it I had total

relief in the 3-4 week range. I

> had to go off of it for surgery and stayed off for 3 months and

then started back again. I

> don't get any bad side effects from it but I feel like all of my

joints are on fire. Like there is

> glass in them. The prednisone is keeping the inflammation at bay

but I have 7/10 pain

> constantly and if it shoots higher it pretty much stops me in my

tracks. My drugs are mtx,

> prednisone, celebrex, plaquenil, folic acid, and ambien to help me

through the night, though

> it isn't really doing much to keep me asleep. My question is how

long do I go on like this or

> do I ask my dr about the biologics? I am affraid to take any pain

meds with the ambien.

> Anyone have advise or a similar story? And do you continue to

take mtx with the biologics? I

> hope I remember all these thing to talk to the dr about. Thank

you for any shared thoughts.

> Gently,

> Ali

>

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Shirley,

Thank you for your prayers and loving words.  I will keep my notes in my journal

and bring it to my appt.  I don't know how I would keep all of this in my memory

otherwise.  Let me know what you think of the Enbrel.  I keep a watch on what

others are saying about all the biologics and I keep doing my research.  Is it

common to have the pain migrate from one set of joints to another?  It seems

like the pain is always present at some level but it moves from my hands and

feet towards the core of my body.  Anyway, take care and you will be in my

prayers too.

Ali

From: nana2livi <s.p5315@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: what do I do from here?

Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 4:37 AM

Ali,

I am sorry that the pain level is staying that high. I know that you

are weary of hurting. Keep on with your journal and list all of your

questions in it also. I feel certain that your rheummy has some sort

of time frame that he is looking for results in. If you have not

stressed to your rheummy how bad the pain is staying, you need to.

I think the reason my rheummy decided to try stronger meds is

because of my extreme fatigue and my wrists changes. It was pretty

clear that the MTX was not controlling it. I will be taking the MTX

in addition to Enbrel.

I can only imagine how hard it is for you with the two little ones.

God Bless you, Sweetie. Motherhood is difficult for totally healthy

women.

Don't be concerned that you feel you don't have much to contribute.

I have seen you post support for others when they are having a hard

time. I know that it is appreciated.

I pray that you have a better day today.

Shirley

>

> Hi everyone. Sorry, I feel like I don't ever have much to

contribute in the way of helping

> anyone else. I am still new to this disease and have so many

questions still. I am going to

> the dr next Fri and am wondering what to ask. I have been on mtx

again for 6 weeks now. I

> went through my journal and the first time I took it I had total

relief in the 3-4 week range. I

> had to go off of it for surgery and stayed off for 3 months and

then started back again. I

> don't get any bad side effects from it but I feel like all of my

joints are on fire. Like there is

> glass in them. The prednisone is keeping the inflammation at bay

but I have 7/10 pain

> constantly and if it shoots higher it pretty much stops me in my

tracks. My drugs are mtx,

> prednisone, celebrex, plaquenil, folic acid, and ambien to help me

through the night, though

> it isn't really doing much to keep me asleep. My question is how

long do I go on like this or

> do I ask my dr about the biologics? I am affraid to take any pain

meds with the ambien.

> Anyone have advise or a similar story? And do you continue to

take mtx with the biologics? I

> hope I remember all these thing to talk to the dr about. Thank

you for any shared thoughts.

> Gently,

> Ali

>

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Ali,

Somedays my pain is totally different, however, it does feel like

fire and my skin is warm to touch. I will have my right hand hurt

and not the left, or the left wrist and not the right. I am not sure

what you mean about the core of your body though. Has someone else

has experienced this?

I am 57 and it seems that I have various pains from day to day, but

I think some of it is just the aging process.

I hope today is a better day for you.

Shirley

>

> Shirley,

>

> Thank you for your prayers and loving words.  I will keep my notes

in my journal and bring it to my appt.  I don't know how I would

keep all of this in my memory otherwise.  Let me know what you think

of the Enbrel.  I keep a watch on what others are saying about all

the biologics and I keep doing my research.  Is it common to have

the pain migrate from one set of joints to another?  It seems like

the pain is always present at some level but it moves from my hands

and feet towards the core of my body.  Anyway, take care and you

will be in my prayers too.

>

> Ali

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In a message dated 9/5/2008 9:21:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

ali3787@... writes:

>Is it common to have the pain migrate from one set of joints to another? >

I kept a list before my RA doc appointment. Monday -- right shoulder and

left knee. Tuesday -- left knee and right foot. Sometimes toes, sometimes heels,

knees, upper arms, TMJ.

Since being on prednisone, MTX and Arava, it does the same thing, but is

more moderate. Last night and today my right upper arm was killing me. It's ok

now. Some of my problems are from osteo and some from RA.

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By the core I mean that the pain I have through out the day seems to start in

the hands and feet and then moves to my knees and elbows, then my shoulders and

hips, then my spine and jaw.  It starts in the terminal ends of my body then

moves toward the center of my body.  I don't know if that makes more sense. 

Sorry.

From: nana2livi <s.p5315@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: what do I do from here?

Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 10:54 AM

Ali,

Somedays my pain is totally different, however, it does feel like

fire and my skin is warm to touch. I will have my right hand hurt

and not the left, or the left wrist and not the right. I am not sure

what you mean about the core of your body though. Has someone else

has experienced this?

I am 57 and it seems that I have various pains from day to day, but

I think some of it is just the aging process.

I hope today is a better day for you.

Shirley

>

> Shirley,

>

> Thank you for your prayers and loving words.  I will keep my notes

in my journal and bring it to my appt.  I don't know how I would

keep all of this in my memory otherwise.  Let me know what you think

of the Enbrel.  I keep a watch on what others are saying about all

the biologics and I keep doing my research.  Is it common to have

the pain migrate from one set of joints to another?  It seems like

the pain is always present at some level but it moves from my hands

and feet towards the core of my body.  Anyway, take care and you

will be in my prayers too.

>

> Ali

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Ali,

Got it. I don't know if this applies to you, when I have pain in

certain areas, I over compensate in others, causing more pain

sometimes. Like if my knee hurts I shift my weight and before I know

it my hip is hurting. Now I understand this doesn't apply to the

jaw. I have not had any problems there, but others here have posted

having jaw problems.

Best thing is to go over all of this with your rheummy. They can

tell you what they think is happening.

Sorry to not be of much help, remember sometimes our pains are a

unique as we are as individuals.

Hope you have a good day.

Shirley

> From: nana2livi <s.p5315@...>

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> the pain is always present at some level but it moves from my

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Ali,

That seems to be what happens to me too.  But there's no paticular order or

sense of it.   Somedays it's completely different.  Good Luck! Paris

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Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 10:54 AM

   

            Ali,

Somedays my pain is totally different, however, it does feel like

fire and my skin is warm to touch. I will have my right hand hurt

and not the left, or the left wrist and not the right. I am not sure

what you mean about the core of your body though. Has someone else

has experienced this?

I am 57 and it seems that I have various pains from day to day, but

I think some of it is just the aging process.

I hope today is a better day for you.

Shirley

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> Shirley,

>

> Thank you for your prayers and loving words.  I will keep my notes

in my journal and bring it to my appt.  I don't know how I would

keep all of this in my memory otherwise.  Let me know what you think

of the Enbrel.  I keep a watch on what others are saying about all

the biologics and I keep doing my research.  Is it common to have

the pain migrate from one set of joints to another?  It seems like

the pain is always present at some level but it moves from my hands

and feet towards the core of my body.  Anyway, take care and you

will be in my prayers too.

>

> Ali

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