Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... They say, "Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs" for a period of time. My Dr. said, "So what?" when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to "increase."He tells me it is not an "increase" from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a "lateral" move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... They say, "Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs" for a period of time. My Dr. said, "So what?" when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to "increase."He tells me it is not an "increase" from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a "lateral" move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... They say, "Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs" for a period of time. My Dr. said, "So what?" when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to "increase."He tells me it is not an "increase" from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a "lateral" move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 We're all addicted. I'm addicted to food and water and air. I'm addicted to living indoors. I'm very addicted to my computer. As to drugs they all have benefits and risks which we weigh. But if you tell me there is one that will make me feel better every day, I'll take that kind of addiction anytime. I'm fortunate that my doctors work together so they understand what to try and what would be bad for me based on experience and my other meds. When I was first found to have enlarged lymph nodes, I made it clear that if I did have lymphoma I would do two things-buy a nice wig and find a source for pot-to offset the chemo). Not a single doctor thought that was wrong as everything they prescribe is stronger. Each med is designed for something specific and can be very helpful or abused. If you take oxycontin or MS-contin and crush it and snort it then you're in trouble because its basically heroin at that point and all hits you at once but you're getting a monitored dose over time. Its not the meds, its when they are abused and I don't know very many that can't be abused. I hear comments of those who tell me even that they'd never take all the meds i do. Well, they don't have my conditions. I wouldn't take MS-Contin daily today but when the time comes I will. It reminds me of doctors who wouldn't treat things like viruses because meds just treated the symptoms. Well, its the symptoms I want treated. Its not the illness that hurts it is the symptoms. Make me feel fine and I don't care if I'm sick. > > FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... > They say, " Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs " for a period of time. > My Dr. said, " So what? " when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to " increase. " He tells me it is not an " increase " from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a " lateral " move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. > I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. > > Sher; ipf 3-06; OR. > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 We're all addicted. I'm addicted to food and water and air. I'm addicted to living indoors. I'm very addicted to my computer. As to drugs they all have benefits and risks which we weigh. But if you tell me there is one that will make me feel better every day, I'll take that kind of addiction anytime. I'm fortunate that my doctors work together so they understand what to try and what would be bad for me based on experience and my other meds. When I was first found to have enlarged lymph nodes, I made it clear that if I did have lymphoma I would do two things-buy a nice wig and find a source for pot-to offset the chemo). Not a single doctor thought that was wrong as everything they prescribe is stronger. Each med is designed for something specific and can be very helpful or abused. If you take oxycontin or MS-contin and crush it and snort it then you're in trouble because its basically heroin at that point and all hits you at once but you're getting a monitored dose over time. Its not the meds, its when they are abused and I don't know very many that can't be abused. I hear comments of those who tell me even that they'd never take all the meds i do. Well, they don't have my conditions. I wouldn't take MS-Contin daily today but when the time comes I will. It reminds me of doctors who wouldn't treat things like viruses because meds just treated the symptoms. Well, its the symptoms I want treated. Its not the illness that hurts it is the symptoms. Make me feel fine and I don't care if I'm sick. > > FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... > They say, " Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs " for a period of time. > My Dr. said, " So what? " when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to " increase. " He tells me it is not an " increase " from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a " lateral " move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. > I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. > > Sher; ipf 3-06; OR. > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 We're all addicted. I'm addicted to food and water and air. I'm addicted to living indoors. I'm very addicted to my computer. As to drugs they all have benefits and risks which we weigh. But if you tell me there is one that will make me feel better every day, I'll take that kind of addiction anytime. I'm fortunate that my doctors work together so they understand what to try and what would be bad for me based on experience and my other meds. When I was first found to have enlarged lymph nodes, I made it clear that if I did have lymphoma I would do two things-buy a nice wig and find a source for pot-to offset the chemo). Not a single doctor thought that was wrong as everything they prescribe is stronger. Each med is designed for something specific and can be very helpful or abused. If you take oxycontin or MS-contin and crush it and snort it then you're in trouble because its basically heroin at that point and all hits you at once but you're getting a monitored dose over time. Its not the meds, its when they are abused and I don't know very many that can't be abused. I hear comments of those who tell me even that they'd never take all the meds i do. Well, they don't have my conditions. I wouldn't take MS-Contin daily today but when the time comes I will. It reminds me of doctors who wouldn't treat things like viruses because meds just treated the symptoms. Well, its the symptoms I want treated. Its not the illness that hurts it is the symptoms. Make me feel fine and I don't care if I'm sick. > > FYI re: meds/addiction from the Dr.s at the Pain Clinic I go to... > They say, " Addiction will not kill you. IF you are addicted you simply ease your way down to lesser and lesser meds/drugs " for a period of time. > My Dr. said, " So what? " when I expressed my concerns re: becoming addicted when he put me on MS-Contin. For those of us who are not so savvy, as I was not ...that is Morphine!! I gasped out loud when he recommended this drug for pain. I did not want to " increase. " He tells me it is not an " increase " from the Oxy-codone (and other drugs) but is a " lateral " move. I need a drug that will last, as in, timed release. Oxy-codone peaks and then falls off in 3-5 hrs. MS-Contin peaks slowly and ebbs slowly and then it's time for a second pill. I take 3 daily and must admit I'm feeling better. Pain has really decreased. > I share all this simply to say, don't be afraid of addiction, according to those who work with drugs every day. If you need something you need it and shouldn't have to fight your Dr. to be comfortable. > > Sher; ipf 3-06; OR. > Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I hear you ...pain is such a difficult thing to deal with. I don't particularly like the MS-contin but I like being without pain. I'm 69 years old and I make choices today I would not have made in earlier years. When I was your age , I could still fight the good fight but I simply can't do it any longer. I get afraid I may shorten my life with so many meds and now ms-contin...but I've got PF! How long am I going to live anyway? Have a good one. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I hear you ...pain is such a difficult thing to deal with. I don't particularly like the MS-contin but I like being without pain. I'm 69 years old and I make choices today I would not have made in earlier years. When I was your age , I could still fight the good fight but I simply can't do it any longer. I get afraid I may shorten my life with so many meds and now ms-contin...but I've got PF! How long am I going to live anyway? Have a good one. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My last email got away from me too soon....addiction to certain drugs, as in OD, can certainly kill and alcohol can kill. I'm not referring to either of those issues. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My last email got away from me too soon....addiction to certain drugs, as in OD, can certainly kill and alcohol can kill. I'm not referring to either of those issues. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My last email got away from me too soon....addiction to certain drugs, as in OD, can certainly kill and alcohol can kill. I'm not referring to either of those issues. Sher; ipf 3-06; OR.Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hi , I consulted to a drug/etoh rehab center for about 7 years, and with a strong family history of addiction, an area of interest. So, in answer to your question - Absolutely. Some RDs specialize in this area and have written Cont Ed modules or books. Check with ADA and/or other RD providers of Cont Ed. For example, if Oxy is causing constipation, then the body risks increased toxicity due to poor elimination. Also, the drugs themselves can damage the liver. Neurtransmitters can be modified to reduce cravings. Addicts aren't prone to eating adequately so generalized poor nutrition may be an issue. These links here will start to give you an idea about the role of nutrition and addiction. _http://www.addictionrecoveryguide.org/holistic/nutrition_ (http://www.addictionrecoveryguide.org/holistic/nutrition) _http://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Addiction-Supporting-Nutritional-Interventi ons/dp/1908066199/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8 & qid=1339608606 & sr=8-5 & keywords=%22nutri tion+and+addiction%22_ (http://www.amazon.com/Nutrition-Addiction-Supporting-Nutritional-Interventions/\ dp/1908066199/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8 & qid=1339608606 & s r=8-5 & keywords= " nutrition+and+addiction " ) _https://www.aminokit.com/_ (https://www.aminokit.com/) Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@... Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) and specialist in inflammation caused by non-IgE food sensitivity - which causes IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia, arthritis and more. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email. In a message dated 6/13/2012 10:21:44 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, rd-usa writes: _Addiction _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28540;_ylc=X3oDMTJzMm5ybWFmBF9TAzk\ 3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2 dJZAMyODU0MARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzM5NjA0NTAw) Posted by: " G " _kgreen@... _ (mailto:kgreen@...?Subject= Re:%20Addiction) _kimberly.green_08 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/kimberly.green_08) Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:33 pm (PDT) Is there anything anyone does nutritionally for drug addition patients? I know with alcohol abuse I can add multivitamins and monitor nutrition labs and such, but what about addictions to narcotics? like Oxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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