Re: RESEARCH - The placebo effect an its determinants in OA ...

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In a message dated 6/16/2008 9:28:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

goodbead40@... writes:

Yes, and let's face it - a placebo effect is still an effect. I'd much

rather get the effect without the meds, if it's possible! That the mind

is able to heal or lessen symptoms does NOT mean that the mind caused

the issues originally - that is a common misunderstanding. The

causality doesn't need to work both ways.

But in order for a placebo to work, doesn't the person have to think it's a

real drug?

dd

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> But in order for a placebo to work, doesn't the person have to think

> it's a real drug?

>

> dd

That's what I'm thinking, DD. Biofeedback and Lamaze both work by

relaxing the mind and focusing on something other than the pain - I get

that. I'm not understanding how a placebo could work unless the

person " thinks " its a real drug, either. I've read all of the articles

that posted on this subject and I'm understanding the concept, but

I'm still struggling with the fact that it seems almost like trickery.

Here are the articles that had posted regarding this.

/message/114104

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7892

http://www.physorg.com/news105029324.html

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3x_Placebo_Effect.asp

Doreen

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Well, maybe not. Check out this article:

http://www.badscience.net/?p=620

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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Mimi <mimi212@...> wrote:

>> But in order for a placebo to work, doesn't the person have to think

>> it's a real drug?

>>

>> dd

>

> That's what I'm thinking, DD. Biofeedback and Lamaze both work by

> relaxing the mind and focusing on something other than the pain - I get

> that. I'm not understanding how a placebo could work unless the

> person " thinks " its a real drug, either. I've read all of the articles

> that posted on this subject and I'm understanding the concept, but

> I'm still struggling with the fact that it seems almost like trickery.

>

> Here are the articles that had posted regarding this.

> /message/114104

> http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7892

> http://www.physorg.com/news105029324.html

> http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3x_Placebo_Effect.asp

>

> Doreen

>

>

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