Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Can you share more info about this or tell us where it can be found online? Where are you located? *~ Kami ~* Re: [ ] Introduction As far as natural remedies, I've been researching the role of diet and the immune system on Rheumatoid Arthritis and have found that a lot of what we eat can set off flares and inflammation. It can also help to control pain and inflammation. I met a UK doctor online yesterday who's been suffering from RA for many years. She told me she's treating it with diet only since she cannot tolerate any of the meds. She says she's healthier now than she was before. I've been following an Elimination Diet that I found on the internet the past few days and I can tell you that when I cheat, my body lets me know immediately. For example, yesterday I had oatmeal cooked with raisins and cinnamon for breakfast. No sugar, no milk, no coffee for breakfast. For lunch and dinner I steamed some brown rice with vegetables,onions, garlic and a little low-sodium chicken boullion. I felt pretty good all day and evening. Then late last night I gave in (I'm trying to quit smoking also) and had some chocolate frosted brownies that I made from a box for the family the other day. Within five minutes the pain in my legs and feet became excruciating again. I'm really starting to believe that diet has a lot to do with it. Today I steamed some brown rice again with some frozen stir-fry vegees, some Chinese five-spice powder, some pears from the tree in the back yard, a handful of raisins. I added some thawed and browned deer meat that my daughter got from hunting last year with some garlic and onion and added it to the rice. Again, I felt pretty good again today, even though I've been in major pain for the past couple weeks straight. And no brownies tonight either!!! The reason I'm throwing together such weird concoctions is because I can't afford to go food shopping. Haven't been able to for a couple weeks now, so I can assure you that I am not one of those people who can afford to buy organic foods at the health store. I can't even afford to buy toilet paper right now. Also, fish oil is great for RA, it calms my pain down within an hour whenever I take it. Bromelain from pineapples is also good for pain and inflammation. There are many more like ginger, and turmeric. Hope this helps. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 First read this: (it looks like it ends after the first page, but there are actually a couple pages to it.) http://www.thorne.com/media/Rheumatoid Arthritis.pdf I have read TONS of other literature that says basically the same thing: diet CAN play a LARGE role in Rheumatoid Arthritis. There is another Y!A group that I belong to where a couple of the people claim they have put their RA into complete remission just by using food and nutrition. I have read this elsewhere on the net. (I spend my days researching this stuff since I got laid off from my job last year.) From what I understand, you can be intollerant of or allergic to a food or foods, and it can cause your body to react to it. This reaction can cause your immune system to react and set off a flare up of RA symptoms. It can also cause something else called a " leaky gut syndrome " which can play major havoc on your body in terms of causing and exasperating disease. There are different types of diets you can use to try to find out which foods you may be reacting to, another example is a Rotation Diet. There is also a diet called the Few Foods Diet or a Rare Food Diet where you are only allowed two or three foods, say, lamb and pears and maybe rice (which usually don't cause problems), but I think that type of diet would be way too hard for me to stick to. I think a Rotation Diet would take too long and would make it hard to figure out exactly what you may be reacting to. This Elimination Diet I found (by accident) looks like it covers most offending foods at once, however, I am going to restrict it even more by eliminating a couple more things that I read may be troublesome. These items contain " salicylates " and are found in such things as Almonds, Apples, Apricots, Aspirin, Berries, Broccoli, Cherries, All Citrus, Cloves, Coffee, Cucumbers, Currants, Eggplant, Grapes, Nectarines, Oil of wintergreen, Oranges, Peaches, Peppers (bell & chilli), Pickles, Plums, Potatoes, Prunes, Raisins, Rose hips, Tangelos, Tangerines, Tea, Tomatoes. Remember, you don't have to cut these foods out permanently, only until you test them one at a time. Here's how an Elimination Diet works: For 2 to 6 weeks, eliminate all suspect foods and focus diet on fresh fruits, vegetables, yams, animal protein (fish, poultry, lamb), and nonglutenous grains (rice, buckwheat). This part is important: It is best to eliminate any food or beverage that is craved in excess or eaten often because such items frequently cause various medical or emotional problems. Whatever you love the most is most likely to affect you. (Unfortunately) After 2 to 6 weeks of maintaining a strict elimination diet, there should be relief from symptoms. Weight may also be lost. (That's a big PLUS for me especially since you can eat as much as you want on this diet and I have over a hundred pounds to lose!) Now begin the challenge. One at a time, start adding foods back into your diet waiting a couple days in between each one. Look for symptoms from that food. Here's a list of just some of the possible symptoms: headache (brief or prolonged), nauseau, stomachache, sharp abdominal pain, sore throat, stuffy nose, runny nose, itchy nose or eyes, skin rash or itching, facial flushing, red ears, sleepiness, insomnia, fatugue, apathy, irritability, depression , anxiety, excitability, aching or twitching muscles, there are others such as a raise in heartbeat, innability to concentrate, etc. I'm starting to notice these reactions when I eat now. It's amazing how I've ignored all these symptoms all my life, but I'm starting to pay attention to them now and I'm taking note. These symptoms tell you that you are intollerant of that food and could be causing reactions in your immune system by eating it. Use a notebook to keep track of foods eaten and symptoms. Continue this process until the problematic foods are determined. In most cases, reactions occur within 48 hours. Rarely do symptoms appear several days or weeks later. When you " challenge " a new food, try to eat quite a bit of it (don't gorge yourself, of course) for a couple days to see if there are indeed any reactions to it. If there are no reactions, move on to the next food to challenge. There are many types of Elimination Diets out there, I found this one by accident here: http://www.functionalmedicine.org/content_management/files/ifm_Comp_Elim_Diet_09\ 1503.pdf It seems to be the most comprehensive. I also found an updated version of the same diet here: http://www.functionalmedicine.org/webinar/August7th/EliminationDiet.pdf But it is not as strict as the first one so I am not using this second one. Eventually, I want to get on what is called a Raw Foods diet. But I know it will take some doing. http://rawlivingfoods.typepad.com/1/arthritis/index.html http://www.health101.org/art_studies.htm#2 http://www.spiritofhealing.com/articles/html/Rheumatoid Arthritis2.html Hope this helps, and I hope to hear from anyone else who may be interested in trying this. PS: I live in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio Re: [ ] Introduction As far as natural remedies, I've been researching the role of diet and the immune system on Rheumatoid Arthritis and have found that a lot of what we eat can set off flares and inflammation. It can also help to control pain and inflammation. I met a UK doctor online yesterday who's been suffering from RA for many years. She told me she's treating it with diet only since she cannot tolerate any of the meds. She says she's healthier now than she was before. I've been following an Elimination Diet that I found on the internet the past few days and I can tell you that when I cheat, my body lets me know immediately. For example, yesterday I had oatmeal cooked with raisins and cinnamon for breakfast. No sugar, no milk, no coffee for breakfast. For lunch and dinner I steamed some brown rice with vegetables,onions, garlic and a little low-sodium chicken boullion. I felt pretty good all day and evening. Then late last night I gave in (I'm trying to quit smoking also) and had some chocolate frosted brownies that I made from a box for the family the other day. Within five minutes the pain in my legs and feet became excruciating again. I'm really starting to believe that diet has a lot to do with it. Today I steamed some brown rice again with some frozen stir-fry vegees, some Chinese five-spice powder, some pears from the tree in the back yard, a handful of raisins. I added some thawed and browned deer meat that my daughter got from hunting last year with some garlic and onion and added it to the rice. Again, I felt pretty good again today, even though I've been in major pain for the past couple weeks straight. And no brownies tonight either!!! The reason I'm throwing together such weird concoctions is because I can't afford to go food shopping. Haven't been able to for a couple weeks now, so I can assure you that I am not one of those people who can afford to buy organic foods at the health store. I can't even afford to buy toilet paper right now. Also, fish oil is great for RA, it calms my pain down within an hour whenever I take it. Bromelain from pineapples is also good for pain and inflammation. There are many more like ginger, and turmeric. Hope this helps. . 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Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 In a message dated 9/10/2008 5:09:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pamhunt 56@... writes: >Does anyone have shortness of breath that isn't caused by heart problems. I think some meds can cause shortness of breath, but I'm not sure which ones. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me> I called it that, but it was really my heart beating too fast. I was sent to an endocrinologist who tested me and said that I have thyroiditis, but it seems like a big coincidence that it started when I started Prednisone. She put me on something to slow down my heart and it feels much better. Plus I am down to 5 mg a day of Pred. dd **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Hi everyone, I don't post very much but I have learned so much from reading the posts everyday.  How much fish oil are you supposed to take each day? The bottle I have is 1000 mg in each softgel.  Does anyone have shortness of breath that isn't caused by heart problems. I think some meds can cause shortness of breath, but I'm not sure which ones. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me  Pam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 hi pam i sent a post directly to your address. i hope your e-mail program doesn't block my e-mail?? monique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 THANK-YOU, gonetoday. it sounds interesting. i've heard about certain foods affecting people with ra. about the diet it sounds TEMPTING but costly.. i know i've heard about tomatoes,potatoes,citrus food or drinks, being HARMFUL. one that i heard was GOOD is any type of nuts & ALMONDS is one of them!! i READ it in RA TODAY...... i might try it but i really don't eat 20 of the items listed....... good luck in your ongoing endeavors & more pain free days. god bless,melyndagamez 9/10/08 9:25p.m.ct Re: [ ] Introduction  As far as natural remedies, I've been researching the role of diet and the immune system on Rheumatoid Arthritis and have found that a lot of what we eat can set off flares and inflammation. It can also help to control pain and inflammation. I met a UK doctor online yesterday who's been suffering from RA for many years. She told me she's treating it with diet only since she cannot tolerate any of the meds. She says she's healthier now than she was before.  I've been following an Elimination Diet that I found on the internet the past few days and I can tell you that when I cheat, my body lets me know immediately. For example, yesterday I had oatmeal cooked with raisins and cinnamon for breakfast. No sugar, no milk, no coffee for breakfast. For lunch and dinner I steamed some brown rice with vegetables,onions, garlic and a little low-sodium chicken boullion. I felt pretty good all day and evening. Then late last night I gave in (I'm trying to quit smoking also) and had some chocolate frosted brownies that I made from a box for the family the other day. Within five minutes the pain in my legs and feet became excruciating again. I'm really starting to believe that diet has a lot to do with it. Today I steamed some brown rice again with some frozen stir-fry vegees, some Chinese five-spice powder, some pears from the tree in the back yard, a handful of raisins. I added some thawed and browned deer meat that my daughter got from hunting last year with some garlic and onion and added it to the rice. Again, I felt pretty good again today, even though I've been in major pain for the past couple weeks straight. And no brownies tonight either!!!  The reason I'm throwing together such weird concoctions is because I can't afford to go food shopping. Haven't been able to for a couple weeks now, so I can assure you that I am not one of those people who can afford to buy organic foods at the health store. I can't even afford to buy toilet paper right now.  Also, fish oil is great for RA, it calms my pain down within an hour whenever I take it. Bromelain from pineapples is also good for pain and inflammation. There are many more like ginger, and turmeric. Hope this helps.  .  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and they did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong with my heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is great. But I still don't know what is causing the problem. They said the next step would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my lungs checked out. Which will have to wait until I can't afford to go right now since we are already on short time at work. I just thought maybe some of the group members might be having the same problem. I can just be sitting at the computer or watching TV, nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I can't breathe. It's a scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, Plaquenil, Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a combination of my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I just wish I knew what was causing it. Thanks a lot. Pam > > In a message dated 9/10/2008 5:09:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pamhunt > 56@... writes: > > >Does anyone have shortness of breath that isn't caused by heart problems. I > think some meds can cause shortness of breath, but I'm not sure which ones. > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me> > > I called it that, but it was really my heart beating too fast. I was sent to > an endocrinologist who tested me and said that I have thyroiditis, but it > seems like a big coincidence that it started when I started Prednisone. She put > me on something to slow down my heart and it feels much better. Plus I am > down to 5 mg a day of Pred. > > dd > > > > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Pam, Sorry you are having problems. I sure hope you get the go ahead with the pulmonary doctor soon. Shirley > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and they > did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong with my > heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is great. But I > still don't know what is causing the problem. They said the next step > would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my lungs checked out. Which > will have to wait until I can't afford to go right now since we are > already on short time at work. I just thought maybe some of the group > members might be having the same problem. I can just be sitting at the > computer or watching TV, nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I can't > breathe. It's a scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, Plaquenil, > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a combination of > my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I just wish I knew > what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Hi Pam, I do have shortness of breath sometimes. I started having problems two years ago. I had a dry cough, and I would have problems breathing. When I went to the doc the first time, I was diagnosed with pneumonia. They put me on two inhalers, and antibiotics. A year later, I started having shortness of breath, which my rheumy told me I need to visit a pulmonary doctor, but like you, I just can't afford it. I still have shortness of breath at times, not all the time. It is scary, especially when your on all the meds were on. Keep us posted, hope you can get yourself checked out soon, Tawny > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and they > did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong with my > heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is great. But I > still don't know what is causing the problem. They said the next step > would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my lungs checked out. Which > will have to wait until I can't afford to go right now since we are > already on short time at work. I just thought maybe some of the group > members might be having the same problem. I can just be sitting at the > computer or watching TV, nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I can't > breathe. It's a scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, Plaquenil, > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a combination of > my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I just wish I knew > what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hi Pam - I hope you are able to get to the bottom of your shortness of breath. I know how frustrating it can be as I have the same. I had the stress test and even a heart catheterization and a PFT with the pulmonologist. Aside from some " mild pulmonary hypertension " , everything else was normal. I know my weight doesn't help matters any. I have found that since I quit smoking over 2 years ago, I have to remember to take deep breaths - apparently something I was only doing while smoking. As far as drug interactions, I found this site - http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.php . You can type in prescription and OTC medications and it will tell you if there is any type of interaction to be aware of. Above all, PLEASE mention all of this to your doctors as they are the ones who can truly advise you properly. And if you are already on short time at work, if you have insurance, perhaps you could use your off times to see the pulmonologist?...........Doreen > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and > they did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong > with my heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is > great. But I still don't know what is causing the problem. They > said the next step would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my > lungs checked out. Which will have to wait until I can't afford to > go right now since we are already on short time at work. I just > thought maybe some of the group members might be having the same > problem. I can just be sitting at the computer or watching TV, > nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I can't breathe. It's a > scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, Plaquenil, > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a > combination of my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I > just wish I knew what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Thanks Shirley. I hope I will be able to see the Pulmonary doctor soon too. I have it almost everyday now. What can I do to help me breathe easier? I've been taking deep breaths when it happens. Or take my Lasix if I haven't already taken it. It doesn't always help though. My supervisor knows I'm having this problem and he told me Monday morning when I got off work that they were putting faster running yarn on some of the spinning frames and we might get to work all week. I hope so. Pam > > > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and > they > > did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong with > my > > heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is great. But I > > still don't know what is causing the problem. They said the next > step > > would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my lungs checked out. > Which > > will have to wait until I can't afford to go right now since we are > > already on short time at work. I just thought maybe some of the > group > > members might be having the same problem. I can just be sitting at > the > > computer or watching TV, nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I > can't > > breathe. It's a scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, > Plaquenil, > > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a > combination of > > my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I just wish I > knew > > what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > > > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Tawny, I know what you mean about all the meds we have to take. That's scary too. I will let you know when I find out what the problem is. Working in a cotton mill probably doesn't help my breathing much either. Pam > > > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and > they > > did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong with my > > heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is great. But I > > still don't know what is causing the problem. They said the next > step > > would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my lungs checked out. > Which > > will have to wait until I can't afford to go right now since we are > > already on short time at work. I just thought maybe some of the > group > > members might be having the same problem. I can just be sitting at > the > > computer or watching TV, nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I > can't > > breathe. It's a scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, > Plaquenil, > > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a > combination of > > my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I just wish I knew > > what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > > > Pam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hi Doreen, Thanks for the site address. I already looked at it and it has a lot of information on it. I'm going to put my list of meds in to see if it comes up with any drug interactions. I used to be a light smoker but I never really had a habit, luckily. After seeing what my Mother had to go through when she was diagnosed with cervical cancer, having to have radiation and chemo treatments, I haven't smoked a cigarette since. I have insurance, but with me being on short time I barely have enough to pay the bills and buy my meds. To see a specialist the co- pay is $40.00. I already have to pay that every month when I go to the pain clinic because my Reumy sent me there so he wouldn't have to prescribe pain meds. So it will just have to wait. I get really scared when it happens because I feel like I'm not getting enough air. Pam > > > > I went to a cardiology doctor about the shortness of breath, and > > they did a treadmill stress test. They didn't find anything wrong > > with my heart, except my heart rate is low sometimes. which is > > great. But I still don't know what is causing the problem. They > > said the next step would be to go to a pulmonary doctor to have my > > lungs checked out. Which will have to wait until I can't afford to > > go right now since we are already on short time at work. I just > > thought maybe some of the group members might be having the same > > problem. I can just be sitting at the computer or watching TV, > > nothing strenuous, and I will feel like I can't breathe. It's a > > scary feeling. The meds I'm on are Celebrex, Plaquenil, > > Methotrexate, Folic Acid, Percocet, Fentanyl pain patch, Lasix, > > Prevacid,Iron and Glucosamine. Maybe one of my meds or a > > combination of my meds could be causing the shortness of breath. I > > just wish I knew what was causing it. Thanks a lot. > > > > Pam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Pam, No, I'm sure that type of job, doesn't help your lungs. Keep me posted, I'll keep you in my prayers, Tawny > > Tawny, > I know what you mean about all the meds we have to take. That's scary > too. I will let you know when I find out what the problem is. Working > in a cotton mill probably doesn't help my breathing much either. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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