RE: RE: LEAP Reply to (reply 3) -long LEAP anwers to questions & Happy Birthday Jan's Mom

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Happy Birthday to your Mom, Jan! So glad you get to spend it with her. And

just to keep this relevant, I read your explanations with interest and

thank you for the time you took posting for those of us who didn't know as

much about LEAP therapy.

Digna

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Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:27 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: LEAP Reply to (reply 3) -long LEAP anwers to

questions

Hi Cheryl,

So glad the MRT test helped you identify some reactive foods you wouldn't

have otherwise figured out!

Well, below is a LONG answer to multiple questions that have been posted

recently about LEAP, as well as answers to your questions.

However, to reiterate what said. If you just avoided your Red and

Yellow reactive items on your MRT test, then you did NOT do a LEAP diet or

follow LEAP protocols.

LEAP protocols insist on clients doing a full " Elimination Diet " but based

on the test results. Eating ONLY 20-30 of your very lowest green items.

So, the MRT test is a great test, but it's the MRT test COMBINED with the

protocols of the LEAP diet that makes all the difference. (And, spending 3-5

hours of consultation time with a trained LEAP therapist is recommended.

I've learned to not allow anybody to test thru me unless they are willing to

also pay for consults. A mistake I made early on was to not insist on

consult time when working with RDs that had the training -assuming they'd do

the

study.)

The CLT training came out of my own experiences with LEAP clients, for

about 4 years before I co-authored the training program with the VP of

Signet.

Re: your comment: I do certainly understand the passion of people who have

seen

improvements themselves and in their clients.And while I've appreciated the

enthusiasm I've seen in LEAP therapists, I've really been put off by the

insistence it's the only test to use

I will admit I'm biased, based on my immunology training. And, yes, I DO

think it's the only " food sensitivity " test to use, for scientific reasons.

In the LEAP training, we thoroughly discuss pros and cons of other methods

of testing, and I think we've often stated so on this listserv.

1. alcat - it's IMPOSSIBLE to truly develop a " few foods " elimination diet

starting with the " least reactive " foods with these test results, since it

isn't accurate enough to quantify the reactions. Thus, they will give you

120 or so " safe " foods, without showing which will tend to be " safest. "

So, they recommend just starting with a 120 food rotation diet. THUS, if

somebody is still reacting to something (false negative OR, MORE LIKELY, a

non-immune reaction to fibers, tannins, etc) it's very difficult to figure

out

which of the 120 foods are causing the symptoms.

2. IgG - This test measure ONLY one type of immune response. This test

completely misses all the Type 4/ cell mediated responses. Also, elevated

IgG

can mean one of 3 things. 1. Food is reactive. 2. You've eaten a lot of

that food and have antibodies circulating. 3. It may be a protective

mechanism.

I know we've posted abstracts or research studies showing that these are

NOT very accurate tests. Do I have " research " showing how accurate LEAP/MRT

can be? No. But, my personal experience with thousands of clients surely

has.

And, I do NOT mind " pointed questions. " I was very much a sceptic 10

years ago when I first heard of a " LEAP Diet. " Thus, I dug in, read the

literature, got experience, etc.

One RD suggested that an " unbiased researcher " should do research. I

agree. But, if Signet pays for research, surely it's not going to be

" unbiased. "

Anybody that hasn't seen the benefits, isn't very interested in spending

the money to do research. Those of us that HAVE completed the LEAP training

and become certified, ARE biased! ha Actually, there are a number of

people we are in discussions with for research.

1. A military Hospital. After LEAP saved one 17 year military Colonel's

career and got another man well that had spent hundreds of thousands (Yes

-he

said over 1/4 million $) of his own money trying to find answers to his

health problems before LEAP got him well. This happy client went from his

RDs office to the commandant and insisted they look deeper.

2. A LEAP Therapist that's going into her PhD program.

3. An immunologist/MD that's seen great results.

Sometimes, however, it takes time to get things rolling. I do hope one or

all of these will get started soon.

Re: It takes guts to be a pioneer! Yep - but I come from a long line of

outspoken ancestors! My grandmother came to the US from Ireland on a boat in

the mid 80's while 8-9 months pregnant, in the days when a cross-atlantic

trip could take many weeks.

Re: WHO CERTIFIES? This question came from somebody recently. I've been

VERY surprised by how proud RDs are of their CLT (Certified LEAP Therapist)

certification. But, I think it's because we are all proud of what we've

learned about an area that is SO completely dietetics related, but not

taught in schools. We're also proud of what we can accomplish in such a

short

time with our clients, by having the MRT test and LEAP diet protocols as our

tools.

To become a CLT, you have to have minimum BS in Nutrition. Then, you study

for approx 30 hours, bare minimum, then you have to pass a tough exam.

(About 1/7 fail the first time they take the exam.)

Once you pass the exam, it's Signet Diagnostic who " certifies you. "

Basically, it's a way for us all to know that you have at least that entry

level

knowledge to this work. (And, truly, once you complete the CLT training

and pass the exam - you ARE just " entry level. " We all learn a LOT more as

we gain experience.)

The " CLT " designation means that if somebody wants a referral to a LEAP

therapist in a particular area, the person with the CLT behind there name

WILL get the referral before somebody that's using the MRT test but hasn't

completed the training.

Since 1/7 RDs fail the LEAP exam the first time around, it give ME the

opportunity to see what it is they just aren't understanding, and make

corrections and assist them with truly " understanding " the immunology and

the

proper diet protocol.

OH, FINALLY:

The MRT test is JUST an MRT test. Thus, the reason for combining the test

with the LEAP diet protocols. The " diet " helps us " uncover " some of the

other non mediator causes of symptoms.

MRT does NOT test for:

Celiac

Intestinal Allergy (different from a regular IgE allergy)

Lactose intolerance

Milk or any IgE allergy

Lectin sensitivity

Fructose malabsorption

non-celiac Gluten Intolerance (yet)

Tannin reactions

Fiber reactions (like reactions to too much insoluble fiber in IBS)

SIBO (Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth)

Gut dysbiosis (too much bad bacteria, not enough good)

Candida overgrowth in the gut (too much bad yeast, not enough good yeast

or a poor balance)

Histamine reactions due to a lack of diamine oxidase in your gut

So, if this sounds interesting to you, feel free to consider the CLT

Training! For your $195 investment, you can earn up to 50 Cont Ed Credits

every

5 year portfolio! Even more if you add the free Conference Calls and

Webinars that we do, available just to LEAP Therapists!

For a flyer to order the training, email me privately, or go her, and

scroll down to " CLTflyer "

_http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/files/_

(http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/files/)

And, if you're still reading, thanks for your interest. I'm off to my

mother's 86th birthday party.

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Dineright4@... <mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>

This is the VERY quick answer to something that's discussed in depth in

the CLT training.

Re: Re: LEAP Reply to (reply 3)

LEAP is not an avoidance diet (i.e. avoiding reds and yellows). It is an

elimination diet. We don't focus on avoiding reds and yellows (reactives),

but

on greens (low reactives). Jan posted the crazy number of ingredients in a

pot

pie. If someone only avoids their reds and yellows but eats processed foods

with thousands of potential additives, they will still be exposed to

reactive

ingredients and thwart the process of reducing inflammation in the gut

(i.e.

immune system). In order for LEAP to work the way it was designed to do,

the

patient can only eat tested low-reactive foods for 4 weeks. This is the

only

way to avoid exposure to untested and potentially reactive items.

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Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 8:34 PM

I am questioning why I'm jumping into the fray, but here goes...

I did LEAP years ago, and got quite a few false positives and false

negatives.

When I eliminated my reds and yellows, I saw little to no response. I found

that ELISA targeted my food sensitivities more accurately, overall, and

yet LEAP

did point to a squash sensitivity I hadn't been able to nail down before

that.

Now, I'm just one person, and I don't for a second feel like that means

that

LEAP does, or doesn't work--one person does not reflect the accuracy of a

test.

As I've heard positive stories from others I've thought of doing the

certification, but have not thus far because I feel like either I need to

be

able to vouch for the test either from observing myself or others, or

point to

studies. I do certainly understand the passion of people who have seen

improvements themselves and in their clients.And while I've appreciated the

enthusiasm I've seen in LEAP therapists, I've really been put off by the

insistence it's the only test to use, since no one has pointed to anything

concrete in the way of studies until now and the attitude seems to be that

questioning is a problem, when it should be what all of us encourage. My

clients

question me--that's their job! I expect the same openness of questions from

companies I work with. Asking interested, pointed

questions is not naysaying--it's

using your brain.

The ideas behind LEAP truly make sense to me, and I look forward to seeing

where

the research goes. It takes guts to be a pioneer, and I salute you!

Food for thought.

Best,

Cheryl , MPH, RD, LD

Whole Health

3345 Duke Street, andria, VA 22314

9675-A Main Street, Fairfax, VA 22031

www.harriswholehealth.com

fax:

Follow me on Twitter @cherylharrisrd

Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

Director of Medical Nutrition

Signet Diagnostic Corp.

Telecommuting Nationwide

(Mountain Time)

Fax:

DineRight4@... <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of

the

Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.