Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 According to the article I read the school is a pre-K school or head start type program and under law had the right to look intot the lunch. They didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat only the chicken nuggets. The school is being investigated and the parent found out because the child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here is the article I read: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets " State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By Sara Burrows Feb. 14th, 2012 More | RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious. The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day. The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home. When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items, child care providers must supplement them with the missing ones. The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - said she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25. " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the mother wrote in a complaint to her state representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County. The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables. " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of her, " her mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her food. " While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem. " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said. There are no clear restrictions about what additional items - like potato chips - can be included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child, " Kozlowski said. Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for their child. " It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day. The state regulation reads: " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced price meals. " When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the center must provide additional food necessary to meet those requirements. " Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have been charged. " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted the child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent, " she said. " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school. " The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't " know anything about " parents being charged for the meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal. http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Dineright4@... Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " I truly hope this family files charges against this person for: 1. Harrassment 2. Theft of private property This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What IF this had been a gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac disease? Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> writes: _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) Posted by: " mimco_2000 " _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> _ (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?Subject= Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go through children's lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, particularly the government! From what I am hearing, the people of this state are outraged, as they should be. W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Green Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM To: 'rd-usa ' Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " According to the article I read the school is a pre-K school or head start type program and under law had the right to look intot the lunch. They didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat only the chicken nuggets. The school is being investigated and the parent found out because the child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here is the article I read: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets " State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By Sara Burrows Feb. 14th, 2012 More | RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious. The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day. The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home. When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items, child care providers must supplement them with the missing ones. The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - said she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25. " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the mother wrote in a complaint to her state representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County. The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables. " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to watch her because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of her, " her mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking there's something wrong with her food. " While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem. " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said. There are no clear restrictions about what additional items - like potato chips - can be included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child, " Kozlowski said. Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for their child. " It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day. The state regulation reads: " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced price meals. " When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the center must provide additional food necessary to meet those requirements. " Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have been charged. " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted the child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent, " she said. " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school. " The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't " know anything about " parents being charged for the meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal. http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " I truly hope this family files charges against this person for: 1. Harrassment 2. Theft of private property This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What IF this had been a gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac disease? Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corp. Telecommuting Nationwide (Mountain Time) Fax: DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email! In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> writes: _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) Posted by: " mimco_2000 " _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> _ (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?S\ ubject= Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go through children's lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What happens when an " approved " school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child with allergies or special food requirements or restrictions? 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... Cece ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >From: rd-usa (on behalf of " Rowell, " ) >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > > > > > No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy > by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that > child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, > particularly the government! From what I am hearing, > the people of this state are outraged, as they > should be. > > W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT > Montana State Hospital > Long Term Care Consultant > InfoSites: > www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> > www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> > > From: rd-usa > [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Green > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM > To: 'rd-usa ' > Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade > Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > According to the article I read the school is a > pre-K school or head start type program and under > law had the right to look intot the lunch. They > didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just > gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat > only the chicken nuggets. The school is being > investigated and the parent found out because the > child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here > is the article I read: > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria > " Nuggets " > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces > preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By > Sara Burrows > > Feb. 14th, 2012 > > More | > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary > School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 > because a state employee told her the lunch her > mother packed was not nutritious. > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, > potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. > Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to > the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting > all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that > day. > > The Division of Child Development and Early > Education at the Department of Health and Human > Services requires all lunches served in > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day > care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means > lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one > serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two > servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches > are brought from home. > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the > required items, child care providers must supplement > them with the missing ones. > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain > anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - > said she received a note from the school stating > that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " > would be offered the missing portions, which could > result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case > $1.25. > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria > lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the > mother wrote in a complaint to her state > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson > County. > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her > lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, > picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread > and is not big on vegetables. > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my > kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the > girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox > according to what she eats. It always consists of a > fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats > vegetables at home because I have to watch her > because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, > her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. > Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, > because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch > tray, because they put it in front of her, " her > mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. > you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking > there's something wrong with her food. " > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato > chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified > the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child > Development said that should not have been a > problem. > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, > your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the > dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and > statutory policy manager for the division. " It > sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the > standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or > vegetable, but not both, she said. > > There are no clear restrictions about what > additional items - like potato chips - can be > included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a > Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to > provide a balanced lunch for the child, " > > Kozlowski said. > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the > Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski > said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk > with the parent about that not being a healthy > choice for their child. " > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to > charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every > preschooler in the class that day. > > The state regulation reads: > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and > lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular > school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be > charged when families do not qualify for > free/reduced price meals. > > " When children bring their own food for meals and > snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the > specified nutritional requirements, the center must > provide additional food necessary to meet those > requirements. " > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have > been charged. > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean > they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the > nutritional requirements and so they wanted the > child to have the school lunch and then charged the > parent, " she said. > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need > for that school. " > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't > " know anything about " parents being charged for the > meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. > Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina > Journal. > > http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html > > From: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of > Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM > To: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch > Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > I truly hope this family files charges against this > person for: > > 1. Harrassment > 2. Theft of private property > > This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What > IF this had been a > gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac > disease? > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Director of Medical Nutrition > Signet Diagnostic Corp. > Telecommuting Nationwide > (Mountain Time) > Fax: > DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> > > Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food > sensitivity for IBS, > migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory > conditions. Co-author of the > Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. > > Your email is important to me. If you send me an > important email, and I > don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a > call. Some weeks, I get > buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your > email! > > In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain > Standard Time, > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > writes: > > _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with > Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 > MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD > ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) > Posted by: " mimco_2000 " > _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> > _ > (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?S\ ubject= > Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) > _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) > Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) > > > I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go > through children's > lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... Cece ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >From: rd-usa (on behalf of " Rowell, " ) >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > > > > > No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy > by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that > child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, > particularly the government! From what I am hearing, > the people of this state are outraged, as they > should be. > > W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT > Montana State Hospital > Long Term Care Consultant > InfoSites: > www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> > www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> > > From: rd-usa > [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of > Green > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM > To: 'rd-usa ' > Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade > Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > According to the article I read the school is a > pre-K school or head start type program and under > law had the right to look intot the lunch. They > didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just > gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat > only the chicken nuggets. The school is being > investigated and the parent found out because the > child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here > is the article I read: > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria > " Nuggets " > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces > preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By > Sara Burrows > > Feb. 14th, 2012 > > More | > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary > School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 > because a state employee told her the lunch her > mother packed was not nutritious. > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, > potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. > Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to > the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting > all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that > day. > > The Division of Child Development and Early > Education at the Department of Health and Human > Services requires all lunches served in > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day > care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means > lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one > serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two > servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches > are brought from home. > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the > required items, child care providers must supplement > them with the missing ones. > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain > anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - > said she received a note from the school stating > that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " > would be offered the missing portions, which could > result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case > $1.25. > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria > lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the > mother wrote in a complaint to her state > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson > County. > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her > lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, > picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread > and is not big on vegetables. > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my > kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the > girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox > according to what she eats. It always consists of a > fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats > vegetables at home because I have to watch her > because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, > her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. > Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, > because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch > tray, because they put it in front of her, " her > mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. > you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking > there's something wrong with her food. " > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato > chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified > the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child > Development said that should not have been a > problem. > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, > your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the > dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and > statutory policy manager for the division. " It > sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the > standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or > vegetable, but not both, she said. > > There are no clear restrictions about what > additional items - like potato chips - can be > included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a > Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to > provide a balanced lunch for the child, " > > Kozlowski said. > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the > Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski > said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk > with the parent about that not being a healthy > choice for their child. " > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to > charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every > preschooler in the class that day. > > The state regulation reads: > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and > lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular > school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be > charged when families do not qualify for > free/reduced price meals. > > " When children bring their own food for meals and > snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the > specified nutritional requirements, the center must > provide additional food necessary to meet those > requirements. " > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have > been charged. > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean > they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the > nutritional requirements and so they wanted the > child to have the school lunch and then charged the > parent, " she said. > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need > for that school. " > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't > " know anything about " parents being charged for the > meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. > Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina > Journal. > > http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html > > From: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of > Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM > To: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch > Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > I truly hope this family files charges against this > person for: > > 1. Harrassment > 2. Theft of private property > > This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What > IF this had been a > gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac > disease? > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Director of Medical Nutrition > Signet Diagnostic Corp. > Telecommuting Nationwide > (Mountain Time) > Fax: > DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> > > Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food > sensitivity for IBS, > migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory > conditions. Co-author of the > Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. > > Your email is important to me. If you send me an > important email, and I > don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a > call. Some weeks, I get > buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your > email! > > In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain > Standard Time, > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > writes: > > _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with > Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 > MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD > ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) > Posted by: " mimco_2000 " > _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> > _ > (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?S\ ubject= > Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) > _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) > Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) > > > I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go > through children's > lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What > happens when an " approved " > school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child > with allergies or > special food requirements or restrictions? If > employees can't tell when a lunch > meets the requirements, how can they be expected to > understand something > like a gluten free diet? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message > and any included attachments originate from Gerald > Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email > and any attachments are confidential and may contain > privileged or protected patient health information. > Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, > distribution, or use of such information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 According to the original story - the lunch was missing a vegetable. The parent stated her child does not eat vegetables in her school lunch but does get them at home.  Regardless, this is way overstepping the boundaries and the intent of the regulation; I'm sure after all this negative publicity that the district will be rethinking it's policy/procedure and have gotten the appropriate slap on the wrist.  Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com >To: rd-usa >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:57 AM >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > > >My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... > >Cece > >---- Original message ---- >>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >>From: rd-usa (on behalf of " Rowell, " ) >>Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >>To: " 'rd-usa ' " <rd-usa > >> >> >> >> No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy >> by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that >> child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, >> particularly the government! From what I am hearing, >> the people of this state are outraged, as they >> should be. >> >> W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT >> Montana State Hospital >> Long Term Care Consultant >> InfoSites: >> www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> >> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> >> >> From: rd-usa >> [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of >> Green >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM >> To: 'rd-usa ' >> Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade >> Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> According to the article I read the school is a >> pre-K school or head start type program and under >> law had the right to look intot the lunch. They >> didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just >> gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat >> only the chicken nuggets. The school is being >> investigated and the parent found out because the >> child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here >> is the article I read: >> >> Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria >> " Nuggets " >> >> State agent inspects sack lunches, forces >> preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By >> Sara Burrows >> >> Feb. 14th, 2012 >> >> More | >> >> RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary >> School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 >> because a state employee told her the lunch her >> mother packed was not nutritious. >> >> The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, >> potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. >> Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to >> the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting >> all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that >> day. >> >> The Division of Child Development and Early >> Education at the Department of Health and Human >> Services requires all lunches served in >> pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day >> care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means >> lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one >> serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two >> servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches >> are brought from home. >> >> When home-packed lunches do not include all of the >> required items, child care providers must supplement >> them with the missing ones. >> >> The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain >> anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - >> said she received a note from the school stating >> that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " >> would be offered the missing portions, which could >> result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case >> $1.25. >> >> " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria >> lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the >> mother wrote in a complaint to her state >> representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson >> County. >> >> The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her >> lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, >> picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread >> and is not big on vegetables. >> >> " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my >> kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the >> girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox >> according to what she eats. It always consists of a >> fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats >> vegetables at home because I have to watch her >> because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " >> >> When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, >> her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. >> Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. >> >> Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. >> >> " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, >> because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch >> tray, because they put it in front of her, " her >> mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. >> you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking >> there's something wrong with her food. " >> >> While the mother and grandmother thought the potato >> chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified >> the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child >> Development said that should not have been a >> problem. >> >> " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, >> your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the >> dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and >> statutory policy manager for the division. " It >> sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the >> standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or >> vegetable, but not both, she said. >> >> There are no clear restrictions about what >> additional items - like potato chips - can be >> included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. >> >> " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a >> Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to >> provide a balanced lunch for the child, " >> >> Kozlowski said. >> >> Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the >> Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski >> said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk >> with the parent about that not being a healthy >> choice for their child. " >> >> It is unclear whether the school was allowed to >> charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every >> preschooler in the class that day. >> >> The state regulation reads: >> >> " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and >> lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular >> school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be >> charged when families do not qualify for >> free/reduced price meals. >> >> " When children bring their own food for meals and >> snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the >> specified nutritional requirements, the center must >> provide additional food necessary to meet those >> requirements. " >> >> Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have >> been charged. >> >> " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean >> they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the >> nutritional requirements and so they wanted the >> child to have the school lunch and then charged the >> parent, " she said. >> >> " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need >> for that school. " >> >> The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't >> " know anything about " parents being charged for the >> meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. >> Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " >> >> Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. >> >> Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina >> Journal. >> >> http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html >> >> From: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] >> On Behalf Of >> Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM >> To: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch >> Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> I truly hope this family files charges against this >> person for: >> >> 1. Harrassment >> 2. Theft of private property >> >> This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What >> IF this had been a >> gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac >> disease? >> >> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT >> Director of Medical Nutrition >> Signet Diagnostic Corp. >> Telecommuting Nationwide >> (Mountain Time) >> Fax: >> DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> >> >> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food >> sensitivity for IBS, >> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory >> conditions. Co-author of the >> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. >> >> Your email is important to me. If you send me an >> important email, and I >> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a >> call. Some weeks, I get >> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your >> email! >> >> In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain >> Standard Time, >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> >> writes: >> >> _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with >> Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 >> MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD >> ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) >> Posted by: " mimco_2000 " >> _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> >> _ >> (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?S\ ubject= >> Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) >> _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) >> Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) >> >> >> I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go >> through children's >> lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What >> happens when an " approved " >> school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child >> with allergies or >> special food requirements or restrictions? If >> employees can't tell when a lunch >> meets the requirements, how can they be expected to >> understand something >> like a gluten free diet? >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message >> and any included attachments originate from Gerald >> Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the >> sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email >> and any attachments are confidential and may contain >> privileged or protected patient health information. >> Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, >> distribution, or use of such information is strictly >> prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the >> addressee, please promptly delete this message and >> notify the sender of the delivery error with a copy >> to >> SecurityOfficer@...<mailto:SecurityOfficer%40gcrmc.org> >> by e-mail or call Gerald Champion Regional Medical >> Center in Alamogordo, NM at , attention >> Security Officer. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> >This message is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be notified that any dissemination or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Un-intended transmission does not constitute waiver of attorney-client privilege or any other privilege. If you have received this message in error, please delete all copies of the message and its attachments and notify the sender immediately. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It wasn’t even that, the parent thinks that is what it was however : “ " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.†So I think the inspector was just mistaken in her actions. I too would be pissed off and suing the school however for taking a healthy lunch from my child and allowing her to eat only chicken nuggets instead. I mean really?? From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of hl brewer Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:24 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " According to the original story - the lunch was missing a vegetable. The parent stated her child does not eat vegetables in her school lunch but does get them at home. Regardless, this is way overstepping the boundaries and the intent of the regulation; I'm sure after all this negative publicity that the district will be rethinking it's policy/procedure and have gotten the appropriate slap on the wrist. Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com From: Cece Ohmart <cohmart@...<mailto:cohmart%40mainehospital.org>> >To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:57 AM >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > > >My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... > >Cece > >---- Original message ---- >>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >>From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>) >>Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >>To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>> >> >> >> >> No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy >> by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that >> child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, >> particularly the government! From what I am hearing, >> the people of this state are outraged, as they >> should be. >> >> W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT >> Montana State Hospital >> Long Term Care Consultant >> InfoSites: >> www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> >> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> >> >> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of >> Green >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM >> To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' >> Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade >> Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> According to the article I read the school is a >> pre-K school or head start type program and under >> law had the right to look intot the lunch. They >> didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just >> gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat >> only the chicken nuggets. The school is being >> investigated and the parent found out because the >> child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here >> is the article I read: >> >> Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria >> " Nuggets " >> >> State agent inspects sack lunches, forces >> preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By >> Sara Burrows >> >> Feb. 14th, 2012 >> >> More | >> >> RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary >> School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 >> because a state employee told her the lunch her >> mother packed was not nutritious. >> >> The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, >> potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. >> Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to >> the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting >> all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that >> day. >> >> The Division of Child Development and Early >> Education at the Department of Health and Human >> Services requires all lunches served in >> pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day >> care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means >> lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one >> serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two >> servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches >> are brought from home. >> >> When home-packed lunches do not include all of the >> required items, child care providers must supplement >> them with the missing ones. >> >> The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain >> anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - >> said she received a note from the school stating >> that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " >> would be offered the missing portions, which could >> result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case >> $1.25. >> >> " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria >> lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the >> mother wrote in a complaint to her state >> representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson >> County. >> >> The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her >> lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, >> picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread >> and is not big on vegetables. >> >> " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my >> kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the >> girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox >> according to what she eats. It always consists of a >> fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats >> vegetables at home because I have to watch her >> because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " >> >> When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, >> her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. >> Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. >> >> Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. >> >> " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, >> because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch >> tray, because they put it in front of her, " her >> mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. >> you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking >> there's something wrong with her food. " >> >> While the mother and grandmother thought the potato >> chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified >> the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child >> Development said that should not have been a >> problem. >> >> " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, >> your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the >> dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and >> statutory policy manager for the division. " It >> sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the >> standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or >> vegetable, but not both, she said. >> >> There are no clear restrictions about what >> additional items - like potato chips - can be >> included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. >> >> " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a >> Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to >> provide a balanced lunch for the child, " >> >> Kozlowski said. >> >> Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the >> Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski >> said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk >> with the parent about that not being a healthy >> choice for their child. " >> >> It is unclear whether the school was allowed to >> charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every >> preschooler in the class that day. >> >> The state regulation reads: >> >> " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and >> lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular >> school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be >> charged when families do not qualify for >> free/reduced price meals. >> >> " When children bring their own food for meals and >> snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the >> specified nutritional requirements, the center must >> provide additional food necessary to meet those >> requirements. " >> >> Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have >> been charged. >> >> " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean >> they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the >> nutritional requirements and so they wanted the >> child to have the school lunch and then charged the >> parent, " she said. >> >> " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need >> for that school. " >> >> The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't >> " know anything about " parents being charged for the >> meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. >> Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " >> >> Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. >> >> Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina >> Journal. >> >> http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html >> >> From: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> >> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] >> On Behalf Of >> Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM >> To: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> >> Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch >> Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> I truly hope this family files charges against this >> person for: >> >> 1. Harrassment >> 2. Theft of private property >> >> This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What >> IF this had been a >> gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac >> disease? >> >> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT >> Director of Medical Nutrition >> Signet Diagnostic Corp. >> Telecommuting Nationwide >> (Mountain Time) >> Fax: >> DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> >> >> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food >> sensitivity for IBS, >> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory >> conditions. Co-author of the >> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. >> >> Your email is important to me. If you send me an >> important email, and I >> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a >> call. Some weeks, I get >> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your >> email! >> >> In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain >> Standard Time, >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> writes: >> >> _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with >> Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 >> MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD >> ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) >> Posted by: " mimco_2000 " >> _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto\ :_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> >> _ >> (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><m\ ailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?Subject= >> Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) >> _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) >> Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) >> >> >> I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go >> through children's >> lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What >> happens when an " approved " >> school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child >> with allergies or >> special food requirements or restrictions? If >> employees can't tell when a lunch >> meets the requirements, how can they be expected to >> understand something >> like a gluten free diet? >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message >> and any included attachments originate from Gerald >> Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the >> sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email >> and any attachments are confidential and may contain >> privileged or protected patient health information. >> Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, >> distribution, or use of such information is strictly >> prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It wasn’t even that, the parent thinks that is what it was however : “ " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. " It sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.†So I think the inspector was just mistaken in her actions. I too would be pissed off and suing the school however for taking a healthy lunch from my child and allowing her to eat only chicken nuggets instead. I mean really?? From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of hl brewer Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:24 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " According to the original story - the lunch was missing a vegetable. The parent stated her child does not eat vegetables in her school lunch but does get them at home. Regardless, this is way overstepping the boundaries and the intent of the regulation; I'm sure after all this negative publicity that the district will be rethinking it's policy/procedure and have gotten the appropriate slap on the wrist. Holly ---------- Holly Lee Brewer, MS RD Pediatric Dietitian, Diabetes Educator Medical Nutrition Therapist, Las Vegas, NV Maj Holly Brewer, USAFR BSC 301st MDS, NAS JRB Fort Worth (Carswell), TX http://hollyinbalad.blogspot.com From: Cece Ohmart <cohmart@...<mailto:cohmart%40mainehospital.org>> >To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:57 AM >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > > >My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... > >Cece > >---- Original message ---- >>Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >>From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>) >>Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >>To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>> >> >> >> >> No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy >> by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that >> child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, >> particularly the government! From what I am hearing, >> the people of this state are outraged, as they >> should be. >> >> W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT >> Montana State Hospital >> Long Term Care Consultant >> InfoSites: >> www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> >> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> >> >> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of >> Green >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM >> To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' >> Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade >> Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> According to the article I read the school is a >> pre-K school or head start type program and under >> law had the right to look intot the lunch. They >> didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just >> gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat >> only the chicken nuggets. The school is being >> investigated and the parent found out because the >> child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here >> is the article I read: >> >> Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria >> " Nuggets " >> >> State agent inspects sack lunches, forces >> preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By >> Sara Burrows >> >> Feb. 14th, 2012 >> >> More | >> >> RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary >> School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 >> because a state employee told her the lunch her >> mother packed was not nutritious. >> >> The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, >> potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. >> Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to >> the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting >> all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that >> day. >> >> The Division of Child Development and Early >> Education at the Department of Health and Human >> Services requires all lunches served in >> pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day >> care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means >> lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one >> serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two >> servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches >> are brought from home. >> >> When home-packed lunches do not include all of the >> required items, child care providers must supplement >> them with the missing ones. >> >> The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain >> anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - >> said she received a note from the school stating >> that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " >> would be offered the missing portions, which could >> result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case >> $1.25. >> >> " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria >> lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the >> mother wrote in a complaint to her state >> representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson >> County. >> >> The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her >> lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, >> picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread >> and is not big on vegetables. >> >> " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my >> kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the >> girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox >> according to what she eats. It always consists of a >> fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats >> vegetables at home because I have to watch her >> because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " >> >> When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, >> her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. >> Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. >> >> Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. >> >> " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, >> because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch >> tray, because they put it in front of her, " her >> mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. >> you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking >> there's something wrong with her food. " >> >> While the mother and grandmother thought the potato >> chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified >> the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child >> Development said that should not have been a >> problem. >> >> " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, >> your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the >> dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and >> statutory policy manager for the division. " It >> sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the >> standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or >> vegetable, but not both, she said. >> >> There are no clear restrictions about what >> additional items - like potato chips - can be >> included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. >> >> " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a >> Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to >> provide a balanced lunch for the child, " >> >> Kozlowski said. >> >> Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the >> Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski >> said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk >> with the parent about that not being a healthy >> choice for their child. " >> >> It is unclear whether the school was allowed to >> charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every >> preschooler in the class that day. >> >> The state regulation reads: >> >> " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and >> lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular >> school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be >> charged when families do not qualify for >> free/reduced price meals. >> >> " When children bring their own food for meals and >> snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the >> specified nutritional requirements, the center must >> provide additional food necessary to meet those >> requirements. " >> >> Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have >> been charged. >> >> " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean >> they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the >> nutritional requirements and so they wanted the >> child to have the school lunch and then charged the >> parent, " she said. >> >> " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need >> for that school. " >> >> The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't >> " know anything about " parents being charged for the >> meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. >> Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " >> >> Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. >> >> Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina >> Journal. >> >> http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html >> >> From: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> >> [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] >> On Behalf Of >> Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> >> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM >> To: >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> >> Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch >> Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >> >> I truly hope this family files charges against this >> person for: >> >> 1. Harrassment >> 2. Theft of private property >> >> This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What >> IF this had been a >> gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac >> disease? >> >> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT >> Director of Medical Nutrition >> Signet Diagnostic Corp. >> Telecommuting Nationwide >> (Mountain Time) >> Fax: >> DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> >> >> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food >> sensitivity for IBS, >> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory >> conditions. Co-author of the >> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. >> >> Your email is important to me. If you send me an >> important email, and I >> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a >> call. Some weeks, I get >> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your >> email! >> >> In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain >> Standard Time, >> rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> >> writes: >> >> _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with >> Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 >> MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD >> ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) >> Posted by: " mimco_2000 " >> _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto\ :_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> >> _ >> (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><m\ ailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?Subject= >> Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) >> _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) >> Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) >> >> >> I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go >> through children's >> lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What >> happens when an " approved " >> school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child >> with allergies or >> special food requirements or restrictions? If >> employees can't tell when a lunch >> meets the requirements, how can they be expected to >> understand something >> like a gluten free diet? >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> >> **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message >> and any included attachments originate from Gerald >> Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the >> sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email >> and any attachments are confidential and may contain >> privileged or protected patient health information. >> Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, >> distribution, or use of such information is strictly >> prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It doesn't matter. It was none of their business! W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Cece Ohmart Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:58 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... Cece ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>) >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > > No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy > by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that > child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, > particularly the government! From what I am hearing, > the people of this state are outraged, as they > should be. > > W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT > Montana State Hospital > Long Term Care Consultant > InfoSites: > www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> > www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> > > From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Green > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM > To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' > Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade > Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > According to the article I read the school is a > pre-K school or head start type program and under > law had the right to look intot the lunch. They > didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just > gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat > only the chicken nuggets. The school is being > investigated and the parent found out because the > child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here > is the article I read: > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria > " Nuggets " > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces > preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By > Sara Burrows > > Feb. 14th, 2012 > > More | > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary > School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 > because a state employee told her the lunch her > mother packed was not nutritious. > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, > potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. > Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to > the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting > all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that > day. > > The Division of Child Development and Early > Education at the Department of Health and Human > Services requires all lunches served in > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day > care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means > lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one > serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two > servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches > are brought from home. > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the > required items, child care providers must supplement > them with the missing ones. > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain > anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - > said she received a note from the school stating > that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " > would be offered the missing portions, which could > result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case > $1.25. > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria > lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the > mother wrote in a complaint to her state > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson > County. > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her > lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, > picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread > and is not big on vegetables. > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my > kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the > girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox > according to what she eats. It always consists of a > fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats > vegetables at home because I have to watch her > because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, > her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. > Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, > because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch > tray, because they put it in front of her, " her > mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. > you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking > there's something wrong with her food. " > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato > chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified > the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child > Development said that should not have been a > problem. > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, > your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the > dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and > statutory policy manager for the division. " It > sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the > standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or > vegetable, but not both, she said. > > There are no clear restrictions about what > additional items - like potato chips - can be > included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a > Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to > provide a balanced lunch for the child, " > > Kozlowski said. > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the > Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski > said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk > with the parent about that not being a healthy > choice for their child. " > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to > charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every > preschooler in the class that day. > > The state regulation reads: > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and > lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular > school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be > charged when families do not qualify for > free/reduced price meals. > > " When children bring their own food for meals and > snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the > specified nutritional requirements, the center must > provide additional food necessary to meet those > requirements. " > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have > been charged. > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean > they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the > nutritional requirements and so they wanted the > child to have the school lunch and then charged the > parent, " she said. > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need > for that school. " > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't > " know anything about " parents being charged for the > meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. > Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina > Journal. > > http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html > > From: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of > Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM > To: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch > Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > I truly hope this family files charges against this > person for: > > 1. Harrassment > 2. Theft of private property > > This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What > IF this had been a > gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac > disease? > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Director of Medical Nutrition > Signet Diagnostic Corp. > Telecommuting Nationwide > (Mountain Time) > Fax: > DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> > > Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food > sensitivity for IBS, > migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory > conditions. Co-author of the > Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. > > Your email is important to me. If you send me an > important email, and I > don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a > call. Some weeks, I get > buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your > email! > > In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain > Standard Time, > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > writes: > > _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with > Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 > MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD > ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) > Posted by: " mimco_2000 " > _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto\ :_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> > _ > (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><m\ ailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?Subject= > Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) > _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) > Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) > > > I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go > through children's > lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What > happens when an " approved " > school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child > with allergies or > special food requirements or restrictions? If > employees can't tell when a lunch > meets the requirements, how can they be expected to > understand something > like a gluten free diet? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message > and any included attachments originate from Gerald > Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email > and any attachments are confidential and may contain > privileged or protected patient health information. > Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, > distribution, or use of such information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 It doesn't matter. It was none of their business! W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT Montana State Hospital Long Term Care Consultant InfoSites: www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Cece Ohmart Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 9:58 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " My question is....what required food component the state employee find lacking in this lunch? It appears to me that the protein component was met given the turkey and cheese in the sandwich. I also feel, in review of the lunch the parent packed, that all components were met. If someone put chicken nuggets in front of my child I would have a huge issue with it...... just my 2 cents..... Cece ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:52:07 +0000 >From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> (on behalf of " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>) >Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " >To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' " <rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > > No one has the " right " to invade a family's privacy > by inspecting a child's lunch box and telling that > child his/her mother doesn't feed them right, > particularly the government! From what I am hearing, > the people of this state are outraged, as they > should be. > > W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT > Montana State Hospital > Long Term Care Consultant > InfoSites: > www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net> > www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com> > > From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of > Green > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM > To: 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' > Subject: RE: Re: Preschooler's Homemade > Lunch Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > According to the article I read the school is a > pre-K school or head start type program and under > law had the right to look intot the lunch. They > didn't take away the girls packed lunch they just > gave her a school lunch too and she chose to eat > only the chicken nuggets. The school is being > investigated and the parent found out because the > child brought home her untouched packed lunch. Here > is the article I read: > > Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with Cafeteria > " Nuggets " > > State agent inspects sack lunches, forces > preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead By > Sara Burrows > > Feb. 14th, 2012 > > More | > > RAEFORD - A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary > School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 > because a state employee told her the lunch her > mother packed was not nutritious. > > The girl's turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, > potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. > Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to > the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting > all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that > day. > > The Division of Child Development and Early > Education at the Department of Health and Human > Services requires all lunches served in > pre-kindergarten programs - including in-home day > care centers - to meet USDA guidelines. That means > lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one > serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two > servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches > are brought from home. > > When home-packed lunches do not include all of the > required items, child care providers must supplement > them with the missing ones. > > The girl's mother - who said she wishes to remain > anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation - > said she received a note from the school stating > that students who did not bring a " healthy lunch " > would be offered the missing portions, which could > result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case > $1.25. > > " I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria > lunch when I provide lunch for her from home, " the > mother wrote in a complaint to her state > representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson > County. > > The girl's grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her > lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, > picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread > and is not big on vegetables. > > " What got me so mad is, number one, don't tell my > kid I'm not packing her lunch box properly, " the > girl's mother told CJ. " I pack her lunchbox > according to what she eats. It always consists of a > fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats > vegetables at home because I have to watch her > because she doesn't really care for vegetables. " > > When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, > her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. > Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. > > Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste. > > " She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, > because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch > tray, because they put it in front of her, " her > mother said. " You're telling a 4-year-old. 'oh. > you're lunch isn't right,' and she's thinking > there's something wrong with her food. " > > While the mother and grandmother thought the potato > chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified > the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child > Development said that should not have been a > problem. > > " With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, > your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that's the > dairy, " said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and > statutory policy manager for the division. " It > sounds like the lunch itself would've met all of the > standard. " The lunch has to include a fruit or > vegetable, but not both, she said. > > There are no clear restrictions about what > additional items - like potato chips - can be > included in preschoolers' lunch boxes. > > " If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a > Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to > provide a balanced lunch for the child, " > > Kozlowski said. > > Ultimately, the child care provider can't take the > Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski > said she " would think the Pre-K provider would talk > with the parent about that not being a healthy > choice for their child. " > > It is unclear whether the school was allowed to > charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every > preschooler in the class that day. > > The state regulation reads: > > " Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and > lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular > school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be > charged when families do not qualify for > free/reduced price meals. > > " When children bring their own food for meals and > snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the > specified nutritional requirements, the center must > provide additional food necessary to meet those > requirements. " > > Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn't have > been charged. > > " The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean > they felt like the lunch wasn't meeting the > nutritional requirements and so they wanted the > child to have the school lunch and then charged the > parent, " she said. > > " It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need > for that school. " > > The school principal, Jackie s, said he didn't > " know anything about " parents being charged for the > meals that day. " I know they eat in the cafeteria. > Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria. " > > Pridgen's office is looking into the issue. > > Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina > Journal. > > http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/homemade-lunch-replaced-with-cafeteria\ -nuggets.html > > From: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > [mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\ yahoogroups.com>] > On Behalf Of > Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:29 AM > To: > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com> > Subject: Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch > Replaced wiht Cafeteria " Nuggets " > > I truly hope this family files charges against this > person for: > > 1. Harrassment > 2. Theft of private property > > This is just so wrong - and great points Mavis. What > IF this had been a > gluten free sandwich for a young girl with celiac > disease? > > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT > Director of Medical Nutrition > Signet Diagnostic Corp. > Telecommuting Nationwide > (Mountain Time) > Fax: > DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\ lto:DineRight4%40aol.com> > > Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food > sensitivity for IBS, > migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory > conditions. Co-author of the > Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course. > > Your email is important to me. If you send me an > important email, and I > don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a > call. Some weeks, I get > buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your > email! > > In a message dated 2/17/2012 6:16:20 A.M. Mountain > Standard Time, > rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\ ups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> > writes: > > _Re: Preschooler's Homemade Lunch Replaced with > Cafeteria " Nuggets " _ > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rd-usa/message/28000;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHZiZDFrBF9TAzk\ 3 > MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEwMDM1NTQ3BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MTIwOQRtc2dJZAMyODAwMARzZWMD > ZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMzI5NDg0NTc3) > Posted by: " mimco_2000 " > _mimco@...<mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:_mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto\ :_mimco%40cfl.rr.com> > _ > (mailto:mimco@...<mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><mailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com><m\ ailto:mimco%40cfl.rr.com>?Subject= > Re:%20Preschooler's%20Homemade%20Lunch%20Replaced%20with%20Cafeteria%20 " Nuggets " \ ) > _mimco_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/mimco_2000) > Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:26 am (PST) > > > I would be livid. Why is any employee allowed to go > through children's > lunch boxes? This one is obviously clueless. What > happens when an " approved " > school lunch is used to replace a lunch for a child > with allergies or > special food requirements or restrictions? If > employees can't tell when a lunch > meets the requirements, how can they be expected to > understand something > like a gluten free diet? > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > **CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVACY NOTICE**: This message > and any included attachments originate from Gerald > Champion Regional Medical Center and are for the > sole use of the intended recipient(s). This email > and any attachments are confidential and may contain > privileged or protected patient health information. > Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, > distribution, or use of such information is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the > addressee, please promptly delete this message and > notify the sender of the delivery error with a copy > to > SecurityOfficer@...<mailto:SecurityOfficer%40gcrmc.org><mailto:SecurityOff\ icer%40gcrmc.org> > by e-mail or call Gerald Champion Regional Medical > Center in Alamogordo, NM at , attention > Security Officer. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > This message is intended for the use of the addressee only and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, be notified that any dissemination or use of this message is strictly prohibited. Un-intended transmission does not constitute waiver of attorney-client privilege or any other privilege. If you have received this message in error, please delete all copies of the message and its attachments and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. 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