Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mina..no that is your money!!!! Geesh....what a (Fill in the blank). He doesn't get any of it, so don't worry. They don't give us enough as it is. Don't give him anything. sorry about your divorce. You should get yourself a lawyer. And file first if you can. Hugs..a ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 My 'opinion' is that he has no grounds to claim that money. It's in your name and is paid based on your income, not any of his. Also, it's not Earned Income! It's your SSDI payments and he has no right to it. Don't let him get away with that. I hate that this is happening to you, it's one of the side effects of our diseases. Dennis in eastexas On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Wilamina <lil_baby_big_beauty@...>wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 This is directly fromn the SSA Website: Benefits For Your Divorced Spouse If you are divorced, even if you have remarried, your ex-spouse may qualify for benefits on your record. (If your spouse will also receive a pension based on work not covered by Social Security, such as government or foreign work, his or her Social Security benefit on your record may be affected.) To qualify on your record, your ex-spouse must: have been married to you for at least 10 years; be at least 62 years old; be unmarried; and not be eligible for an equal or higher benefit on his or her own Social Security record, or on someone else's Social Security record. NOTE: The amount of benefits payable to your divorced spouse has no effect on the amount of benefits you or your current spouse may receive. http://www.socialsecurity.gov/dibplan/dfamily3.htm After my divorce from my husband of 12 years, my children received money from his SSDI until they reached the age of 18. His benefits stayed the same. I hope this helps. > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Hi, This is directly from the SSA website: Benefits For Your Divorced Spouse If you are divorced, even if you have remarried, your ex-spouse may qualify for benefits on your record. (If your spouse will also receive a pension based on work not covered by Social Security, such as government or foreign work, his or her Social Security benefit on your record may be affected.) To qualify on your record, your ex-spouse must: have been married to you for at least 10 years; be at least 62 years old; be unmarried; and not be eligible for an equal or higher benefit on his or her own Social Security record, or on someone else's Social Security record. NOTE: The amount of benefits payable to your divorced spouse has no effect on the amount of benefits you or your current spouse may receive. My children drew on my ex-husband's SSDI until they reached the age of 18, when it was cut off. His benefits were not affected. Hope this clears it up for you. Best wishes! Gloria > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I believe this is a different issue. I receive benefits post divorce after a 25 year marriage. I do not think someone can take your disability income. I am not sure.... Raniolo From: carolinamom07 <carolinamom07@...> Subject: [ ] Re: disability money Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 3:38 PM This is directly fromn the SSA Website: Benefits For Your Divorced Spouse If you are divorced, even if you have remarried, your ex-spouse may qualify for benefits on your record. (If your spouse will also receive a pension based on work not covered by Social Security, such as government or foreign work, his or her Social Security benefit on your record may be affected.) To qualify on your record, your ex-spouse must: have been married to you for at least 10 years; be at least 62 years old; be unmarried; and not be eligible for an equal or higher benefit on his or her own Social Security record, or on someone else's Social Security record. NOTE: The amount of benefits payable to your divorced spouse has no effect on the amount of benefits you or your current spouse may receive. http://www.socialse curity.gov/ dibplan/dfamily3 .htm After my divorce from my husband of 12 years, my children received money from his SSDI until they reached the age of 18. His benefits stayed the same. I hope this helps. > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mina, I already thought he was a jerk because of his reason for divorce, but honey he over did it. I can't type here what I really think. I am so sorry that he is dumping this on you. I would hate to be in his shoes, because I truly believe we reap what we sow. My goodness he is going to have a bountiful harvest. I saw that you got some good replies. I am so happy the money is yours. Won't he be surprised? I know that you must be going through a very difficult time. Please hang in there. Things will change. Bless you, Shirley > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? Â If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful. Â Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. Â And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. Â Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. Â Mina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Join some womens groups who will help you empower yourself. You are not dumb. You gain nothing by speaking to him. You have survived this long. Learn to trust and love yourself.  Laws change by state. I do not believe he can have any claim to your funds..... Raniolo From: Wilamina Crider <lil_baby_big_beauty@...> Subject: [ ] Re: disability money Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:02 PM okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money?  If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful.  Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce.  And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong.  Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb.  Mina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 PS>>>>>>>> Â Have funds direct deposited into a private account. You do not want checks by mail or deposited into a joint account. A joint account suggests sharing funds. (comingling of funds) Raniolo From: Wilamina Crider <lil_baby_big_beauty@...> Subject: [ ] Re: disability money Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:02 PM okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? Â If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful. Â Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. Â And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. Â Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. Â Mina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Mina, Your husband is not entitled to half of any of your Social Security benefits. I hope you have a separate bank account. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Wilamina Crider <lil_baby_big_beauty@...> wrote: > okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent > me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him > entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? > > If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most > greatful. > > Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I > never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. > > And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me > go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek > cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash > here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. > > Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. > > > Mina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Interesting that this topic should come up. My father told me of a friend of his who is nearly bankrupt from her husband's medical problems. He has dementia and a whole mess of other problems. She was counseled to divorce him so that he would become a ward of the state or some such thing and the bills would be directed to the state. My father and his wife had thought about divorcing not because they didn't love each other but because they didn't want to burden each other with expensive medical care should either of them go downhill. Though I haven't given any serious thought to it, I have wondered if in the future that might not be a good route to take - I would never want my wife burdened by my medical bills. We would still live together of course and if I had to pay child support since we'd be divorced that money would go right back to us. It was just something this conversation reminded me of. Brad > > Mina..no that is your money!!!! Geesh....what a (Fill in the blank). He > doesn't get any of it, so don't worry. They don't give us enough as it is. > Don't give him anything. > > sorry about your divorce. You should get yourself a lawyer. And file first > if you can. > > Hugs..a > > > ************** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life > financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, > tips and calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Your thinking is absolutely on track. It is sad that this society rewards dysfunction. Can not comprehend why " gays " are so eager to comingle all in the governments eyes. Â Powers of atty and other legal tools can assist in keeping the control you desire in each others lives... Raniolo From: Brad Berg <blueworld_of_fire@...> Subject: [ ] Re: disability money Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:48 PM Interesting that this topic should come up. My father told me of a friend of his who is nearly bankrupt from her husband's medical problems. He has dementia and a whole mess of other problems. She was counseled to divorce him so that he would become a ward of the state or some such thing and the bills would be directed to the state. My father and his wife had thought about divorcing not because they didn't love each other but because they didn't want to burden each other with expensive medical care should either of them go downhill. Though I haven't given any serious thought to it, I have wondered if in the future that might not be a good route to take - I would never want my wife burdened by my medical bills. We would still live together of course and if I had to pay child support since we'd be divorced that money would go right back to us. It was just something this conversation reminded me of. Brad > > Mina..no that is your money!!!! Geesh....what a (Fill in the blank). He > doesn't get any of it, so don't worry. They don't give us enough as it is. > Don't give him anything. > > sorry about your divorce. You should get yourself a lawyer. And file first > if you can. > > Hugs..a > > > ************ ** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life > financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, > tips and calculators. > (http://www.walletpo p.com/?NCID= emlcntuswall0000 0001) > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Brad, I've discussed this topic with Betty before, but she won't listen to the practical side of it. She only gets $250/mo and pays the $98 for Medicare. She doesn't have anything to spend by the time she gets her check. If she would go on Medicade after divorcing me on paper, she could get more than $500/mo. One thing we would have to do when setting this up is that we would both have to have a separate address for it to work. You might look into it and find that you will need an apartment, too. This is one problem with living in a one income family that we don't consider in the early years. My retirement is only good while I'm alive and over 65, and you know that women live longer, causing more financial difficulties. There's not a good answer, I guess. Dennis in eastexas On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Brad Berg <blueworld_of_fire@...>wrote: > Interesting that this topic should come up. My father told me of a > friend of his who is nearly bankrupt from her husband's medical > problems. He has dementia and a whole mess of other problems. She > was counseled to divorce him so that he would become a ward of the > state or some such thing and the bills would be directed to the > state. My father and his wife had thought about divorcing not > because they didn't love each other but because they didn't want to > burden each other with expensive medical care should either of them > go downhill. > Though I haven't given any serious thought to it, I have wondered if > in the future that might not be a good route to take - I would never > want my wife burdened by my medical bills. We would still live > together of course and if I had to pay child support since we'd be > divorced that money would go right back to us. It was just something > this conversation reminded me of. > > Brad > > > > > > Mina..no that is your money!!!! Geesh....what a (Fill in the > blank). He > > doesn't get any of it, so don't worry. They don't give us enough > as it is. > > Don't give him anything. > > > > sorry about your divorce. You should get yourself a lawyer. And > file first > > if you can. > > > > Hugs..a > > > > > > ************** > > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life > > financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and > information, > > tips and calculators. > > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 As a federal law enforcement officer, I feel compelled to point out that this is fraud. However, if you were going to do such a thing, you could always use a mailbox place with a real street name. Wouldn't advise doing it though. People have been caught, and noone wants to spend their retirement years in a prison cell. -- Dodge " I make the living, my dog makes the living worthwhile. " Read my blog at: http://jumpthis.wordpress.com ---- Dennis W <betnden@...> wrote: ============= Brad, I've discussed this topic with Betty before, but she won't listen to the practical side of it. She only gets $250/mo and pays the $98 for Medicare. She doesn't have anything to spend by the time she gets her check. If she would go on Medicade after divorcing me on paper, she could get more than $500/mo. One thing we would have to do when setting this up is that we would both have to have a separate address for it to work. You might look into it and find that you will need an apartment, too. This is one problem with living in a one income family that we don't consider in the early years. My retirement is only good while I'm alive and over 65, and you know that women live longer, causing more financial difficulties. There's not a good answer, I guess. Dennis in eastexas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Mina, I don't remember if you posted this. Have you been approved yet? If you have did you received the money yet? You might want to call Legal Aid in your area and see if you qualify. I hope everything works out in your favor. I know that you are stretched mentally but you need to be pro-active to protect yourself, because no one else will. Shirley > > okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? > Â > If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful. > Â > Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. > Â > And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. > Â > Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. > Â > Mina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Hi Mina. I am so sorry you are having to deal with all of this. First, I think you need a lawyer that will sue your Ex for his attorney fees. Some lawyers will give free consultations so you could find one that will fight FOR YOU. As for your SS back pay, I don't think he's entitled to it at all. That is YOUR disability money for YOUR illness. Besides, if you had been actively working all this time and had earned this money from a job, it would more than likely be gone anyway. If anything, I think the louse should be paying you ALIMONY!! Whatever happened to " in sickness and in health " ? Geez, I could smack the guy just hearing this!! Sorry to be so vehement, but PLEASE find an attorney before this idiot cons you out of everything................Doreen > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather > in fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing > me because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says > Its what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i > cant ask one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that > money? Even though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Carolinamom07 - what you quoted from the SSA website is for people who are reaching retirement age. This has nothing to do with Social Security Disability. All this would mean for Mina is if she and her ex had been married for more than 10 years, she would qualify for retirement from HIS earnings if his were more than hers at the time of retirement. Again, this has nothing to do with SS Disability........Doreen --- In , " carolinamom07 " <carolinamom07@...> wrote: > > This is directly fromn the SSA Website: > > Benefits For Your Divorced Spouse > If you are divorced, even if you have remarried, your ex-spouse may > qualify for benefits on your record. > > (If your spouse will also receive a pension based on work not > covered by Social Security, such as government or foreign work, his > or her Social Security benefit on your record may be affected.) > > To qualify on your record, your ex-spouse must: > > have been married to you for at least 10 years; > be at least 62 years old; > be unmarried; and > not be eligible for an equal or higher benefit on his or her own > Social Security record, or on someone else's Social Security > record. > NOTE: The amount of benefits payable to your divorced spouse has no > effect on the amount of benefits you or your current spouse may > receive. > > http://www.socialsecurity.gov/dibplan/dfamily3.htm > > After my divorce from my husband of 12 years, my children received > money from his SSDI until they reached the age of 18. His benefits > stayed the same. > > I hope this helps. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 HI Mina, Please don't let that man make you feel like that. You are great and you are important. I agree with the other posts....this is your money for your disability. It has nothing to do with your regular Social Security you would draw at 65. Hang tough Lady! > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 , When I was getting divorced my ex tried to get part of my ssd and any payout, I would get from an injury I had at the time, from work. I was on workers compensation. The judge threw it out and didn't want to hear a word about it. She actually made a joke out of his attempt to get anything. I remember the judge sitting there shaking her head in disbelief that he would even think he could get anything. Hang in there, he won't get anything. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " eandsspivey " <emilyspivey@...> HI Mina, Please don't let that man make you feel like that. You are great and you are important. I agree with the other posts....this is your money for your disability. It has nothing to do with your regular Social Security you would draw at 65. Hang tough Lady! > > Hi everyone, > > Hope everyone is enjoying the the best you can the weather.Its been > summer like her ein IL. Next week we are to have fall like weather in > fall how fun grins. > > Anyway. I had a phone conversation with my husband who is divorcing me > because He cant handl eall my medicla problems. > > Now He claims he deserves half of the back pay from SSI. He says Its > what i earned while married to him. I dont have a lawyer so i cant ask > one. But is he actually right? That he is entitled to that money? Even > though its money ment for me? > > Mina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Aw, Mina...the creep filed for divorce before you filed for disability? Please get a lawyer! He is NOT entitled to your SS backpay. May I recommend putting it in an account in your name only - if its not already there? I would hate to see him wipe you out any more than he already has. I am so sorry you are having to go through this. I would be very interested to know if you can get Alimony from him, too. Please don't let him talk down to you. You don't deserve this at all. Also, please be careful - if he is talking down to you, I pray he won't start swinging at you next. God Bless you, Mina. Also, if you were only married for six years, then he is NOT entitled to anything related to retirement from Social Security. Please take care, Mina. My prayers are with you.........Doreen okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? Â If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful. Â Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. Â And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. Â Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. Â Mina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 Hi Mina, SSI is(Supplemental Security Income) Its for people who don't qualify for SSA or SSD. For low income or no income individuals, blind or disabled. The money comes from general tax revenues. You will also qualify for Medicaid, to see the doctor. To qualify, one must have less then (2,000 in resources, ($3,ooo if married.) I don't think your hubby qualifies for money, that your state helps you with. I wish you a lot of luck, keep us posted. Tawny > > okies forgive me if Im feelinunsure how to read what All of you ladies sent me..But according to the SSI. If we are marrie donly 6 years.That makes him entitlted or untitled to my SSi money? > > If you can clarify that for me before I give a sigh of relief.I will be most greatful. > > Yep he really believes He is entitled tot his money. Despite the fact I never would have applied if he would not have filed for divorce. > > And he seems ok to know I might have to live in a section 8 home.To have me go from being poor all my life to have me his princess to treating me liek cinderella in rags...Mentally ladys im fearing im going to mentally crash here soon. Im getitng exhausted being strong. > > Epsecially when he talks voer my head making think im dumb. > > Mina > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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