RE: Women of the 99% ???/Healthcare and birth control

[Guest guest]

I want to be able to choose what my insurance covers. Of course, it gets

complicated with huge insurance policies written by the insurance companies

themselves, but if I were to have a conscientious objection to a certain

coverage, like birth control pills or Viagra, I could shop around and find one

that does not cover it. That is, if the free market were really free of

government intrusion. Instead of focusing on whether it’s a good idea to have

an insurance policy cover this or that, we should focus on defending our freedom

and liberty.

This whole issue “stems from a decision by the Obama Administration to mandate

that religious employers, including schools, hospitals, and charities, provide

health care coverage for abortion-inducing drugs and contraception despite the

fact that such coverage is in total contradiction of many of these groups’

core religious beliefs. Some have attempted to make this a debate about other

issues, but despite their efforts, the core complaint about this anti-conscience

mandate remains: The President’s policy is an unprecedented attack on all

Americans’ rights as protected by the First Amendment. And those who prize

religious liberty aren’t backing down.

Individual liberties are in jeopardy, and the assault on freedoms is not limited

just to the right to practice one’s faith. Indeed, the power granted to the

federal government under Obamacare is boundless, and Washington will have

growing leverage to make decisions that alter our lives in ways that can’t

even be predicted.†Quotes taken from the following article:

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/03/08/morning-bell-the-calls-for-liberty-have-not-\

been-silenced/?utm_source=Newsletter & utm_medium=Email & utm_campaign=Morning%2BBel\

l

W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

Montana State Hospital

Long Term Care Consultant

InfoSites:

www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net>

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com>

Quote Worthy: Jefferson said, " Whensoever the General Government assumes

undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force. "

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Ann

Maher

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:49 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: Women of the 99% ???

For what its worth, I work in a Veteran outreach clinic and that insurnace

covers 4 pills a month. I've always wondered who sets these regulations??

Ann Maher

________________________________

From: " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>

To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' "

<rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>>

Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:31 AM

Subject: RE: Women of the 99% ???

I wouldn’t have a clue!

From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

Pam Charney

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:03 AM

To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Cc: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: Women of the 99% ???

,

Does your health plan cover Viagra?

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Author, Consultant

Mercer Island, WA

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, " Rowell, "

<drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov><mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>> wrote:

> It's strictly about the politics of liberalism and right now the liberal focus

is to influence women into thinking that Republicans are at war with women.

(It's all they've got right now.) Democrats are losing the support of women, so

they are trying to shore that support up. You know, Republicans want to " take

away your birth control " , i.e. limit abortions, etc., when Republican

politicians weren't even thinking about that topic. It just popped up in a

question from Stephonopolus, moderator of one of the recent debates. " Do

you think states have the right to ban contraception? " Romney said, " Huh? That's

a silly question... "

>

> Notice how pregnancy is discussed as if it were a disease, rather than a

normal health event, that every woman has the right to prevent and terminate,

hopefully at someone else's expense. It's a mantra that was fabricated to make

Republican candidates look like troglodytes who want women pregnant, barefoot

and in the kitchen. It's like the movie " Wag the Dog " where the government and

the media fabricated a war that did not exist. For that reason Rush referred to

the current phony, trumped up " war on women " as " Wag the Pill " . He

inappropriately called Fluke a " slut and a prostitute " for wanting

someone else to pay for her and fellow students' " contraception " while in law

school, claiming it costs them about $3000 for whatever period she claimed, I

forget. The next day he rightly apologized profusely for calling her those

names.) That's a lot of sex at the cost of the insurance companies to provide

" protection " , who will then charge all the policy

holders for it.

>

> Anyway, that's what got them upset about Rush, because he spoke so openly

about it being a scam to create yet another entitlement based on an immoral

premise. That's what the Rush thing is all about, if you haven't kept up with

the news, and I wouldn't blame you if you did not! The " 99% " claim is from the

" occupy " movement. They claimed 1% of the population controls the rest of us

with their money. Well, I guess that was all politically incorrect? Bummer. My

guess is that they got your email address from some other group you are

associated with. You should be able to unsubscribe to their emails. Although,

that might flag your email address as a " live " one and then they might sell it

to someone else. Good luck.

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

> Montana State Hospital

> Long Term Care Consultant

> InfoSites:

> www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net>

>

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com>

>

> Quote worthy: " You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. "

--Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

>

> From:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\

yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:11 PM

> To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

> Subject: Women of the 99% ???

>

> ARRRGH! I just got a recorded call from " the women of the 99% " whoever

> they are, suggesting that I should call my congressman and tell him he should

> be silencing what Rush Limbaugh says!

>

> Huh??? Folks, it's a constitutional right to have freedom of speech!!! If

> somebody doesn't like what Rush says, then don't listen to him! (I

> haven't heard him talk in years. . .)

>

> How in the heck to I get OFF their call list, since clearly the " Women of

> the 99% " are a bunch of nut cases based on the call I just received.

>

> Anybody know more? What in the heck is this organization about?

>

> Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> Director of Medical Nutrition

> Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> Telecommuting Nationwide

> (Mountain Time)

> Fax:

>

DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\

lto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

>

> Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of the

> Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

>

> Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I

> don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get

> buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email!

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Could we please leave the political rants for another list?

This is not about contraception. If it were, perhaps we could also throw in

coverage for vasectomies. This is about women's access to health care. As an

educated health care professional I'm sure you know that these medications are

used to treat medical conditions.

Since you're all for individual liberties and rights, I would kindly suggest

that you stay out of my uterus.

I'm sure those of us who favor the ability of women to make some decisions on

their own (really, we don't need the Republican, Democrat or any other party to

get involved in our reproductive choices. Just give us access) could find blogs

and news items that lean towards our views. These discussions never get solved

in this sort of format, so perhaps we could stop this now.

You favor the argument that access to certain medications used by women should

be limited. I favor women having the ability to make choices.

Regards,

pam

Pam Charney, PhD, RD

Author, Consultant

pcharney@...

" If all you ever do is all you've ever done, than all you'll ever get is all you

ever got " - Anonymous

> I want to be able to choose what my insurance covers. Of course, it gets

complicated with huge insurance policies written by the insurance companies

themselves, but if I were to have a conscientious objection to a certain

coverage, like birth control pills or Viagra, I could shop around and find one

that does not cover it. That is, if the free market were really free of

government intrusion. Instead of focusing on whether it’s a good idea to have an

insurance policy cover this or that, we should focus on defending our freedom

and liberty.

>

> This whole issue “stems from a decision by the Obama Administration to mandate

that religious employers, including schools, hospitals, and charities, provide

health care coverage for abortion-inducing drugs and contraception despite the

fact that such coverage is in total contradiction of many of these groups’ core

religious beliefs. Some have attempted to make this a debate about other issues,

but despite their efforts, the core complaint about this anti-conscience mandate

remains: The President’s policy is an unprecedented attack on all Americans’

rights as protected by the First Amendment. And those who prize religious

liberty aren’t backing down.

>

> Individual liberties are in jeopardy, and the assault on freedoms is not

limited just to the right to practice one’s faith. Indeed, the power granted to

the federal government under Obamacare is boundless, and Washington will have

growing leverage to make decisions that alter our lives in ways that can’t even

be predicted.” Quotes taken from the following article:

>

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/03/08/morning-bell-the-calls-for-liberty-have-not-\

been-silenced/?utm_source=Newsletter & utm_medium=Email & utm_campaign=Morning%2BBel\

l

>

>

> W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

> Montana State Hospital

> Long Term Care Consultant

> InfoSites:

> www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net>

>

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com>

>

> Quote Worthy: Jefferson said, " Whensoever the General Government

assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no

force. "

>

> From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Ann

Maher

> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:49 AM

> To: rd-usa

> Subject: Re: Women of the 99% ???

>

>

>

> For what its worth, I work in a Veteran outreach clinic and that insurnace

covers 4 pills a month. I've always wondered who sets these regulations??

> Ann Maher

>

> ________________________________

> From: " Rowell, " <drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>>

> To: " 'rd-usa <mailto:%27rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>' "

<rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>>

> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 9:31 AM

> Subject: RE: Women of the 99% ???

>

>

> I wouldn’t have a clue!

>

>

>

> From: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

Pam Charney

> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:03 AM

> To: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Cc: rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>

> Subject: Re: Women of the 99% ???

>

> ,

>

> Does your health plan cover Viagra?

>

> Pam Charney, PhD, RD

> Author, Consultant

> Mercer Island, WA

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On Mar 8, 2012, at 7:37 AM, " Rowell, "

<drowell@...<mailto:drowell%40mt.gov><mailto:drowell%40mt.gov>> wrote:

>

> > It's strictly about the politics of liberalism and right now the liberal

focus is to influence women into thinking that Republicans are at war with

women. (It's all they've got right now.) Democrats are losing the support of

women, so they are trying to shore that support up. You know, Republicans want

to " take away your birth control " , i.e. limit abortions, etc., when Republican

politicians weren't even thinking about that topic. It just popped up in a

question from Stephonopolus, moderator of one of the recent debates. " Do

you think states have the right to ban contraception? " Romney said, " Huh? That's

a silly question... "

> >

> > Notice how pregnancy is discussed as if it were a disease, rather than a

normal health event, that every woman has the right to prevent and terminate,

hopefully at someone else's expense. It's a mantra that was fabricated to make

Republican candidates look like troglodytes who want women pregnant, barefoot

and in the kitchen. It's like the movie " Wag the Dog " where the government and

the media fabricated a war that did not exist. For that reason Rush referred to

the current phony, trumped up " war on women " as " Wag the Pill " . He

inappropriately called Fluke a " slut and a prostitute " for wanting

someone else to pay for her and fellow students' " contraception " while in law

school, claiming it costs them about $3000 for whatever period she claimed, I

forget. The next day he rightly apologized profusely for calling her those

names.) That's a lot of sex at the cost of the insurance companies to provide

" protection " , who will then charge all the policy

> holders for it.

> >

> > Anyway, that's what got them upset about Rush, because he spoke so openly

about it being a scam to create yet another entitlement based on an immoral

premise. That's what the Rush thing is all about, if you haven't kept up with

the news, and I wouldn't blame you if you did not! The " 99% " claim is from the

" occupy " movement. They claimed 1% of the population controls the rest of us

with their money. Well, I guess that was all politically incorrect? Bummer. My

guess is that they got your email address from some other group you are

associated with. You should be able to unsubscribe to their emails. Although,

that might flag your email address as a " live " one and then they might sell it

to someone else. Good luck.

> >

> > W. Rowell, RD, LN, CLT

> > Montana State Hospital

> > Long Term Care Consultant

> > InfoSites:

> > www.elk-hunting-tips.net<http://www.elk-hunting-tips.net>

> >

www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com<http://www.benefits-of-massage-therapy.com>

> >

> > Quote worthy: " You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer. "

--Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

> >

> > From:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

[mailto:rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40\

yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of

Dineright4@...<mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com><mailto:Dineright4%40aol.com>

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:11 PM

> > To:

rd-usa <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogro\

ups.com>

> > Subject: Women of the 99% ???

> >

> > ARRRGH! I just got a recorded call from " the women of the 99% " whoever

> > they are, suggesting that I should call my congressman and tell him he

should

> > be silencing what Rush Limbaugh says!

> >

> > Huh??? Folks, it's a constitutional right to have freedom of speech!!! If

> > somebody doesn't like what Rush says, then don't listen to him! (I

> > haven't heard him talk in years. . .)

> >

> > How in the heck to I get OFF their call list, since clearly the " Women of

> > the 99% " are a bunch of nut cases based on the call I just received.

> >

> > Anybody know more? What in the heck is this organization about?

> >

> > Jan Patenaude, RD, CLT

> > Director of Medical Nutrition

> > Signet Diagnostic Corp.

> > Telecommuting Nationwide

> > (Mountain Time)

> > Fax:

> >

DineRight4@...<mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com><mai\

lto:DineRight4%40aol.com>

> >

> > Certified LEAP Therapist and specialist in food sensitivity for IBS,

> > migraine, fibromyalgia and multiple inflammatory conditions. Co-author of

the

> > Certified LEAP Therapist (CLT) Training Course.

> >

> > Your email is important to me. If you send me an important email, and I

> > don't respond in 2 business days, PLEASE give me a call. Some weeks, I get

> > buried in email and I do not mean to ignore your email!

> >

> >