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Clora, it has recently been in the news that a low carb diet is the

best for losing weight. As a diabetic, that's the diet I have to

follow, anyway. I have kept off 20 pounds that I lost 8-9 years ago.

I'm still a little overweight, but only about 10 pounds. Exercising

also helped me lose weight. If you can do any physical activity, try

it. Start off small. Just walking is good. It's really hard to lose

weight, and you have a lot more to lose than I had. Good luck!

Sue

On Saturday, July 26, 2008, at 10:57 AM, CLORA wrote:

> My question is for people with RA that had to

> lose wwight, how did you do it??? please tell me so I can lose

> weight. I am 300 pounds and 5 foot 1 inch tall.

> praying for everyone always!

> hugs

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Clora

I know how you feel. I moved to NJ weighing in at 160 I am 5'8 " so that was

great for me. 5 years later 215. I am starting a new exercise program when

it gets here. Its called beach body. Now I know I will never be 160 again

but would be thrilled to be 190. It is 6 different CDS of workouts similar

to ty-bow which I did to stay in shape. I was not dealing with fibro,RA,IC

or any of the other crap I now have. but the ither day I was trying to fit

into a pair of pants and unfortunately they only fit if I never want to sit

again.. sheesh

I know that the exercise in these tapes is gonna be killer but hell Im

gonna hurt anyway so why not hurt and get some good out it. Now this is a

depending on me actually getting my butt off the couch and getting busy.I am

going to adjust my diet as well. I have type 2 diabetes so I need to follow

a diet anyway. Soo the days of cartons of ice cream are over :(

Keep your fingers crossed for me. I will need all the help I can get..LOL

I hope all of y'all are having a good dayt, or at least a tolerable one.

Heidi M

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Sue <marysue@...> wrote:

> Clora, it has recently been in the news that a low carb diet is the

> best for losing weight. As a diabetic, that's the diet I have to

> follow, anyway. I have kept off 20 pounds that I lost 8-9 years ago.

> I'm still a little overweight, but only about 10 pounds. Exercising

> also helped me lose weight. If you can do any physical activity, try

> it. Start off small. Just walking is good. It's really hard to lose

> weight, and you have a lot more to lose than I had. Good luck!

>

> Sue

>

> On Saturday, July 26, 2008, at 10:57 AM, CLORA wrote:

>

> > My question is for people with RA that had to

> > lose wwight, how did you do it??? please tell me so I can lose

> > weight. I am 300 pounds and 5 foot 1 inch tall.

> > praying for everyone always!

> > hugs

>

>

>

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Heidi,

Aren't we lucky to have both RA and diabetes? At least I don't have

fibro, as you do. I haven't eaten any ice cream in ages, although I do

occasionally eat a dessert but cut out other carbs at the meal. And

every night I eat one small piece of chocolate. I think I have myself

pretty well programmed to eat a correct diet for diabetes. If you cut

out most carbs, you should be able to lose some weight. Plus, it would

be great for your blood sugars, too, as is exercise. Exercise is the

hardest for me, and I'm afraid I'm not doing much these days.

Sue

On Saturday, July 26, 2008, at 03:10 PM, Heidi Mendelsohn wrote:

> I have type 2 diabetes so I need to follow

> a diet anyway. Soo the days of cartons of ice cream are over :(

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I have gained alot of wieght too since I got RA because of the pain

etc. I have found the best way is Pysical Therapy to start. They can

start you off light, or in the pool...and then gently work your way

up to a full exercise routine. I did it two years ago, and lost 30

lbs. I have since gained it back...because of life/stres etc...but

just recently started going back to PT. At first it killed me...I

hurt soooo bad...but every visit, I felt better and better. I had 4

visits now, and this past thursday, I actually asked for extra

exercises because I was feeling so much better. It also helps too

that they use hot compress before I start and cold compress with

electric stim afterward. There is a lady that is 400+ lbs at my PT

office with RA and she is trying. It just has to be a slow process.

Eventually your muscles will get stronger to support your joints

better, so there is not as much pressure (pain too)...then eventually

you'll start losing weight. Just try not to get discouraged at first.

It will take a while.

" Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keeeep

swiming...swimmming....swiiimmming " - Finding Nemo

I have to tell myself that everyday!

Good luck. I know it's hard. I can relate completely.

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>

> All the group.

>

> Thats a good question about exercising to keep in shape, to lose

> weight. I have lost weight maybe 10 times in my life from different

> ways. 1. Diet pills= so far using them may have caused my

congestive

> heart failure. Hopefully there are new drugs to help lose weight

but

> I cant use any of them cause of all my illness's.

> 2. Starving myself. That didnt work either, I lost weight but I

> looked like a skeleton almost had a heart attack from starving my

> heart of necessary nutrients.

> 3. The best way I lost weight was . Eat no grease. Eat no sugar.

> Exercise.

> Number 3 was great. I gave up butter, candies and fried foods. I

> broiled or baked all my foods. And I rode a bicycle around town.

> I cant even do number 1 now. I dont know why. I have tried but

still

> lost no weight. Maybe its the lack of exercise. Beleive me please,

I

> am in to much pain to exercise. I promise if my rheumy can give me

> someting to stop the pain I will exercise religiously.I have books

> on on losing weight. My question is for people with RA that had to

> lose wwight, how did you do it??? please tell me so I can lose

> weight. I am 300 pounds and 5 foot 1 inch tall.

> praying for everyone always!

> hugs

> clora

>

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> > > My question is for people with RA that had to

> > > lose wwight, how did you do it??? please tell me so I can lose

> > > weight. I am 300 pounds and 5 foot 1 inch tall.

> > > praying for everyone always!

> > > hugs

> >

> >

> >

>

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Heidi and Group

Exactly Heidi M. Thats the problem I have to lose weight. Now when any

of my other doctors say, " Don't forget to exercise Clora. " I say well

I would if I could. RA won't let me do but the basic. "

I don't even think the doctors think about how much pain we are in.

Because they dont have RA. If they did they wouldnt tell us to

exercise , especially when we just told them how much pain we are in.

Any way I still have to lose weight. So I am trying a little of what

everyone suggest, except exercise. Cause right now I am to much pain

to do anything but the basics in life. Hopefully when I see my RA

Wednesday she can give me something to help my pain. I am not going to

take prednissone if I can help it. I am going to ask her for something

elese. Maybe injections the kind you take home. or may be some

humirin. If I spelled it right. but i heard some of you say it helps

you. Thank you everyone for your great input. God bles and have no

pain from RA.

Clora

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I ride a recumbent bike 5 days per week for 45 minutes and then I stretch for 10

minutes after. I've found that this has kept my weight in the healthy range for

my height and helped somewhat with the fatigue, although I still needed to be

medicated for that. I do plan on talking to my doctor about my muscle strength

when I go this week. I used to lift weights prior to my RA getting bad and I'm

still not able to do so even though I've had a good response to Humira.

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It'll probably be awhile before you were tried on Humira. You have to try some

of the DMARD's first (Plaquenil, Methotrexate, etc.) before you can go onto a

biologic such as Humira or Enbrel. Most insurances require you to have tried

the DMARD's first as well. And the DMARD's are slow acting drugs that take

awhile to build up in your system to start working. One of the things my

Rheumatologist told me was to be patient, and while it is very hard to do, he

was right. Unfortunately there's no quick fix to RA. Maybe your doctor could

have you try a different pain medicine. They all work differently so you may

have to try a bunch to see what works for you.

HTH,

Lori

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Heidi and Group

Exactly Heidi M. Thats the problem I have to lose weight. Now when any

of my other doctors say, " Don't forget to exercise Clora. " I say well

I would if I could. RA won't let me do but the basic. "

I don't even think the doctors think about how much pain we are in.

Because they dont have RA. If they did they wouldnt tell us to

exercise , especially when we just told them how much pain we are in.

Any way I still have to lose weight. So I am trying a little of what

everyone suggest, except exercise. Cause right now I am to much pain

to do anything but the basics in life. Hopefully when I see my RA

Wednesday she can give me something to help my pain. I am not going to

take prednissone if I can help it. I am going to ask her for something

elese. Maybe injections the kind you take home. or may be some

humirin. If I spelled it right. but i heard some of you say it helps

you. Thank you everyone for your great input. God bles and have no

pain from RA.

Clora

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Hi Lori,

I could have went on one of the biologics from the very beginning, I have Cigna,

I don't need referrals, it's very convenient, my doctor offered me everything

from the start, I was just too chicken, that was 9 years ago and I thought they

were too " new " for me. mary in pa

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Heidi and Group

Exactly Heidi M. Thats the problem I have to lose weight. Now when any

of my other doctors say, " Don't forget to exercise Clora. " I say well

I would if I could. RA won't let me do but the basic. "

I don't even think the doctors think about how much pain we are in.

Because they dont have RA. If they did they wouldnt tell us to

exercise , especially when we just told them how much pain we are in.

Any way I still have to lose weight. So I am trying a little of what

everyone suggest, except exercise. Cause right now I am to much pain

to do anything but the basics in life. Hopefully when I see my RA

Wednesday she can give me something to help my pain. I am not going to

take prednissone if I can help it. I am going to ask her for something

elese. Maybe injections the kind you take home. or may be some

humirin. If I spelled it right. but i heard some of you say it helps

you. Thank you everyone for your great input. God bles and have no

pain from RA.

Clora

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All the rheumatologists and doctors swear that exercising alleviates pain

eventually as it helps keep the muscles and ligaments and tendons in shape.  My

doctor suggested starting out at 5 minutes and working my way up to more.  To

break up working out in increments.  Then a good hot bath.  It isn't easy but

most things in life just are not I am finding out.  I have bilateral patella

femoral syndrome, Fibromyalgia, seronegative RA and something going on with the

connective tissues as well as heart and liver disease and asthma.  Even losing 1

pound feels to the knees like losing 4 pounds.  The best classes are the ones

the Arthritis Foundation offers as they are designed to make us not hurt.  Water

therapy in the pool is the best, my doctor just stated that today to me.  Tai

chi is also very good:)

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Subject: [ ] Exercising with RA

Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 10:57 AM

All the group.

Thats a good question about exercising to keep in shape, to lose

weight. I have lost weight maybe 10 times in my life from different

ways. 1. Diet pills= so far using them may have caused my congestive

heart failure. Hopefully there are new drugs to help lose weight but

I cant use any of them cause of all my illness's.

2. Starving myself. That didnt work either, I lost weight but I

looked like a skeleton almost had a heart attack from starving my

heart of necessary nutrients.

3. The best way I lost weight was . Eat no grease. Eat no sugar.

Exercise.

Number 3 was great. I gave up butter, candies and fried foods. I

broiled or baked all my foods. And I rode a bicycle around town.

I cant even do number 1 now. I dont know why. I have tried but still

lost no weight. Maybe its the lack of exercise. Beleive me please, I

am in to much pain to exercise. I promise if my rheumy can give me

someting to stop the pain I will exercise religiously. I have books

on on losing weight. My question is for people with RA that had to

lose wwight, how did you do it??? please tell me so I can lose

weight. I am 300 pounds and 5 foot 1 inch tall.

praying for everyone always!

hugs

clora

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Hi,

I'm sorry if I'm jumping in on this mid-stream, I just got my laptop back

and am missing many posts. I have recently lost about 14 pounds and 2 sizes.

Yup, my hips are still hurting and my fingers, etc...but on the good days I

exercise, I just don't go crazy. I have something called Red. Its a round

chair that swivels and it has side arms too so you can hold on. its great for

legs , lower back, thighs and hips, all that hurt me, but on good days, helps

me. I bought it with the rope cables so I could work my upper body. As far

as food , I've been loading up on antioxidants such as blueberries, it helps

that its one of my favorite foods. No fast foods at all, no soda, just ice

water, and i've discovered Purple 7 which is high in antioxidants. It's been

working for me, I feel great, I've been dating, and for the first time in a

long time, I bought a skort last night, and a sleeveless blouse that made me

feel sexy, 2 sizes smaller than normal, and i'm wearing it tonight on my date

with a pretty blouse over it ( i'd never go sleeveless! ) but it all looks

pretty! I feel good about myself, I'm eating healthy, have no desire for the

bad stuff , and am handling what comes my way with the help of you guys here on

the list and my other friends on the chat group. I can't exercise every day

, only when my body says I can, and I never know if it will be 10 min or 20

min, but I get some in! Take care!

Heidi in Mass.

In a message dated 7/29/2008 5:26:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

hmendelsohn@... writes:

I am going to try really hard this time. I want to be able to play with the

grand kids, not the kind of Granny that just sits in the corner and knits.I

am allergic to chocolate so I eat cookies for late night, unfortunately eat

a bag of cookies not the recommended serving ( 4 cookies ) yeah right!

Anyway I will get there this time come hell or high water.

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Sue <_marysue@..._

(mailto:marysue@...) > wrote:

> Heidi,

>

> Aren't we lucky to have both RA and diabetes? At least I don't have

> fibro, as you do. I haven't eaten any ice cream in ages, although I do

> occasionally eat a dessert but cut out other carbs at the meal. And

> every night I eat one small piece of chocolate. I think I have myself

> pretty well programmed to eat a correct diet for diabetes. If you cut

> out most carbs, you should be able to lose some weight. Plus, it would

> be great for your blood sugars, too, as is exercise. Exercise is the

> hardest for me, and I'm afraid I'm not doing much these days.

>

> Sue

>

> On Saturday, July 26, 2008, at 03:10 PM, Heidi Mendelsohn wrote:

>

> > I have type 2 diabetes so I need to follow

> > a diet anyway. Soo the days of cartons of ice cream are over :(

>

>

>

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I am going to try really hard this time. I want to be able to play with the

grand kids, not the kind of Granny that just sits in the corner and knits.I

am allergic to chocolate so I eat cookies for late night, unfortunately eat

a bag of cookies not the recommended serving ( 4 cookies ) yeah right!

Anyway I will get there this time come hell or high water.

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Sue <marysue@...> wrote:

> Heidi,

>

> Aren't we lucky to have both RA and diabetes? At least I don't have

> fibro, as you do. I haven't eaten any ice cream in ages, although I do

> occasionally eat a dessert but cut out other carbs at the meal. And

> every night I eat one small piece of chocolate. I think I have myself

> pretty well programmed to eat a correct diet for diabetes. If you cut

> out most carbs, you should be able to lose some weight. Plus, it would

> be great for your blood sugars, too, as is exercise. Exercise is the

> hardest for me, and I'm afraid I'm not doing much these days.

>

> Sue

>

> On Saturday, July 26, 2008, at 03:10 PM, Heidi Mendelsohn wrote:

>

> > I have type 2 diabetes so I need to follow

> > a diet anyway. Soo the days of cartons of ice cream are over :(

>

>

>

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Heidi,

Of all of my diseases, I like diabetes the best, LOL. That's because

you can take measures to control it, unlike with RA. Since our bodies

cannot metabolize carbs adequately, it makes sense to avoid them as

much as we can. But that doesn't mean giving up everything completely.

The key is moderation, and 1-2 cookies would be much better than the

whole box, LOL. You just have to re-program yourself. When your BG's

are under control, you actually lose some of those cravings that high

BG's bring on.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 29, 2008, at 08:25 AM, Heidi Mendelsohn wrote:

> I am going to try really hard this time. I want to be able to play

> with the

> grand kids, not the kind of Granny that just sits in the corner and

> knits.I

> am allergic to chocolate so I eat cookies for late night,

> unfortunately eat

> a bag of cookies not the recommended serving ( 4 cookies ) yeah right!

> Anyway I will get there this time come hell or high water.

>

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Congratulations, Heidi! Losing weight is really hard. You should be

very proud of yourself.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 29, 2008, at 08:35 AM, sposy@... wrote:

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> I'm sorry if I'm jumping in on this mid-stream, I just got my laptop

> back

> and am missing many posts. I have recently lost about 14 pounds and

> 2 sizes.

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WAY TO GO HEIDI! LOSING WEIGHT IS A BIG PROBLEM FOR ME BUT IT'S THE BEST THING

FOR ANYBODY WHO IS ON PREDNISONE & MAKES THEM GAIN POUNDS. KEEP IT UP GIRL!!!

GOD BLESS,MELYNDAGAMEZ 7/29/08 11P.M.CENT.

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Congratulations, Heidi! Losing weight is really hard. You should be

very proud of yourself.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 29, 2008, at 08:35  AM, sposy@... wrote:

>

> I'm sorry if I'm jumping in on this mid-stream, I just got my  laptop

> back

> and am missing many posts.  I have recently lost about 14  pounds and

> 2 sizes.

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Heidi and Mylinda, and Group

Woo Hoo Heide. You lost weight on predisone. Tell us again how you

did it. I will try everything once. As long it is legal.

I can't sleep. haaaaaaaaa. tomorrow is my big day. To see the doc

about injections. It's been a year since I been seeing the rheumy, I

have went straight down hill.

This past month talking to the group has really helped. I understand

more about RA now. I heard a lot of the meds everyone takes. I take

MTX, plaqunile and something else. Its not working or its working

and I don't know it lol cause I have so much pain. I know I said

that a lot about pain. Sorry I hope I haven't been complaining so

much. But tomorrow is a new day. And Praise God I know I am going to

get help.

Everyones email is great. I love to hear the praises everyone give

on our triouphs. And the compassion everyone has here. It's great

how we can talk to each other about our feelings. I feel pretty good

right now. I need to exercise. I am going to look into water

exercise. I heard yoga is good too.

gently hugs to everyone

Clora, cant sleep

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