Re: RESEARCH - Off Topic Heart failure more subtle and deadly in RA patients

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and group;

Wow,, I have Congestive Heart Failure (CHF).. I didn't understand a

lot (I mean a lot) of this.. Maybe it's better if I don't.. hi

everyone.. on my grandsons pc.. My pc is out.. I am reading the post

on my grandsons pc while I can.. Sent shirley and Doreen an email

for the group...

I also have enlarged right atrium.. Don't understand much of that

either.. I know it's on the right side of my heart and it's

enlarged.. Its one of the 4 chambers in the heart.. Don't even know

how serious that is.. What I do know is What time I have left on

earth I am telling everyone about Jesus and that I plan to meet him

when I die in person..

What a day of Rejoicing that will be.. I want everyone to go with me

someday.. I am not in a big hurry haaaaaaaa.. I can wait a couple of

decades.. When I found all this out,,, I thought I had only a few

weeks live.. thats been over a year in a half ago.. Cool I am still

alive.. Now I realize no one is promised another day but no one

really knows when either..

I was reading my bible one day about the end times and came across

some simple words.. The wise will appear simple... The next night

I watched a show about the big bang;; they said they now figured out

how it will all end... Everything will implode on itself the

opposite of the big bang haaaaaaaaaaaaa... Now doesn't that sound

like the wise being simple...

Each person discussing the the big bang and implosions had big Ph d's

and scientific educations... haaaaaaa isnt that like the wise

sounding simple.. What people don't realize about Theories.. A theory

is an educated guess haaaaaaaaaaa... A guess... Now I have nothing

against anyone getting educated. My bible also says for us to be as

wise as a serpent and as gentle as a dove..

My My MY I was so deep into thought I forgot I am writing a simple E-

Mail.. I do get carried away.. Before I lose track of thought let me

please add some more.. Me and my son is the really educated of our

family.. referring to college education not being smart.. that is 2

different types of learnings Smart is learning through life and

college is learning through an higher education..

I learned in life that The Great I Am is real.. Since my mother and

father raised me in church.. I also learned that College is great to

get by in this world.. By putting the 2 together one can have a

great time living in this day and age... I can't get over how

scientist can say that we sliverd out of the pond,, to become

homeosapians,, to end up as humans and people really believe this..

The atheist has no choise but to believe it or how would they explain

the beginings.. At least the athest don't wonder at all about the

beginnings and the ends.. By the way I am not religious.. Religious

people had Jesus hung on the cross.. I conseder my self a believer Of

Gods written word..

I wanted to know,, not just be smart but to be educated.. So I

ventured into college.. Also needed money and next best thing to

making money is getting a degree in something.. I thought medical

science would be great to learn..

Wow medical science is great and there is so much more we need to

learn.. For example: Science can go to the metabolic size down to

smaller than atoms... When I was in high school they couldnt split

the atom.. Now they can split the atoms have computers and many high

tech machines,, but they can't cure the common cold... Also

neighbors can't get along how can two countries do it..

My point is Science will detur poeple from the truth about God but I

think.. Now I am guessing.. That God likes us to use science to know

how everything works in this world of ours.. I think he also prefers

us to use the science to figure out how to fix everything with out

his assistance.. Cause God don't need our assistance for anything..

Of course sometimes God has to enterviene and do it himself.. We

still end up with the super egos.. If ego and id could suffice

alone.. Oh no we had to add super ego haaaaaaaaaa...

Next,, One don't hear them (them being the wise people) say theory

to often or someone might figure out that a theory is an educated

guess... (guess-thinking what it might be) Now science can explain

almost everything and even guess and it to be fact... (only because

someone with a phd said so) Who would dare to say something against

some one with a PH D.. Just maybe another person with a PHD,, Now

that is when we say there are different opinions not theories

haaaaaaaaaaa. OMG I am thinking about deleting this post.. Have I

gone crazy to write this long post. On so many diff subjects.. I will

send it..

To sum it all up in one paragraph would be impossible..However;

nothing is impossible with God.. Since I am not God I will try my

best to theorize or take a guess haaaaaaaaaaaa. (theory-guess)

1) Education is great for all people to have. 2)Maybe some one will

take that Leap Of Faith and give God a try.. Heaven is a great way to

begin a new life.. 3) Theories is guessing that the educated people

know it all and are wise and simple minded.... (not all educated

people are simple minded)) 4) I hope that I have amused someone in

writing this.. most of all I pray that each and everyone of you will

find peace if you haven't already.. Please send me a post and let me

know I I have touched anyones heart... Who knows I might get on line

with a new pc from God.. Wouldn't that be so cool..

gentle kind hugs everyone

Clora

Aka Kloey

PS If I did get a new computer the simply minded would say I planned

it all out in the begin with.. Like I could be that smart haaaaaaa..

I got through college on bad spelling ... Most of my exams was

multiple choice and all my reports could be corrected with a simple

dictionary.. haaaaaaaaaaa. Plus 30 percent of the grade was class

participation.. Now everyone would laughed their head off watching me

participating.. I have some really funny stories on class

participation.. I Pray God gets me a new PC... Only if it be his

will..

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> Heart Failure More Subtle and Deadly in Rheumatoid Arthritis

Patients

>

>

> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Oct 03 - The initial signs and symptoms of

> heart failure in patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) are less

> obvious than those in patients without RA, and although myocardial

> function is usually better preserved in RA patients, mortality is

> higher, new research shows.

>

> " It is conceivable that the subtle presentation of heart failure

among

> patients with RA leads to difficulty in diagnosis and influences

> management, " Dr. M. , from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester,

> Minnesota, and colleagues state.

>

> Regarding the reduced survival seen in RA patients with heart

failure,

> the authors comment that " it may be anticipated that patients with

> chronic systemic inflammatory diseases such as RA, who have markedly

> elevated levels of inflammation mediators such as cytokines and

> C-reactive protein, would, therefore, be at particularly high risk

of

> heart failure progression and, consequently, of higher mortality. "

>

> The new findings, which appear in the September issue of Arthritis

and

> Rheumatism, stem from a community-based study of 103 RA patients and

> 852 patients without RA with incident heart failure who were living

in

> Olmsted County, Minnesota, from 1979 to 2000.

>

> Compared with the non-RA patients, those with the disease were more

> likely to be female, but less likely to be obese, hypertensive, or

> have ischemic heart disease.

>

> As noted, the usual signs and symptoms of heart failure were less

> common in the RA group. In addition, RA patients were less likely

than

> their non-RA counterparts to undergo echocardiography.

>

> Multivariate analysis showed that myocardial function was more

likely

> to be preserved (ejection fraction of 50% or higher) in RA patients.

> Nonetheless, the 1-year mortality after heart failure in RA patients

> was 35%, significantly higher than the 19% noted in non-RA patients

> (HR = 1.89).

>

> The findings suggest that clinicians need to be extra vigilant in

> looking for the signs and symptoms of heart failure in RA patients,

> the authors conclude.

>

>

> Arthritis Rheum 2008;58:2603-2611.

>

> http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/581529

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>