Re: Homeopathy and fibroids

[Guest guest]

Hi Tina,

There are all kinds of theories out there about why

fibroids develop. Some believe it's related to

progesterone, some think it's estrogen, some relate it

to diet and lifestyle - but I don't know that any of

those theories have been definitively proven yet. I

don't have any experience with progesterone cream, but

it probably can't hurt to try it. Does it get absorbed

by the skin? Where do you apply it, or does it not

matter?

Also - I don't know all the details of your fibroids,

but I wanted to say that you might want to get a

second opinion before you agree to have a

hysterectomy. It's a pretty drastic treatment for

benign fibroids, and most of the time it is not

considered medically necessary unless there is cancer.

At the very least, you could ask your doc whether

he/she can just remove the fibroid instead of your

entire uterus - especially if you don't have any

symptoms.

Keep us posted,

==Cat

--- Tina Swartz wrote:

> I am thirty-seven and recently diagnosed with a

> fibroid on the outside of my uterus the size of my

> uterus. My doctor wants to do a complete

> hysterectomy

> but I am going to try a homeopathic progesterone

> creme. My understanding is that I do not have enough

> progesterone and that is what is causing the

> fibroids.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Yes, the cream is applicable to the skin and

preferably on the abdominal or reproductive area of

the surface. I am going to try the homeopathic route

first before trying any surgery. I feel that it is so

unnecessary to just remove organs that have a purpose

of some sort. tina

--- cybrcat wrote:

> Hi Tina,

>

> There are all kinds of theories out there about why

> fibroids develop. Some believe it's related to

> progesterone, some think it's estrogen, some relate

> it

> to diet and lifestyle - but I don't know that any of

> those theories have been definitively proven yet. I

> don't have any experience with progesterone cream,

> but

> it probably can't hurt to try it. Does it get

> absorbed

> by the skin? Where do you apply it, or does it not

> matter?

>

> Also - I don't know all the details of your

> fibroids,

> but I wanted to say that you might want to get a

> second opinion before you agree to have a

> hysterectomy. It's a pretty drastic treatment for

> benign fibroids, and most of the time it is not

> considered medically necessary unless there is

> cancer.

> At the very least, you could ask your doc whether

> he/she can just remove the fibroid instead of your

> entire uterus - especially if you don't have any

> symptoms.

>

> Keep us posted,

> ==Cat

>

> --- Tina Swartz wrote:

> > I am thirty-seven and recently diagnosed with a

> > fibroid on the outside of my uterus the size of my

> > uterus. My doctor wants to do a complete

> > hysterectomy

> > but I am going to try a homeopathic progesterone

> > creme. My understanding is that I do not have

> enough

> > progesterone and that is what is causing the

> > fibroids.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the cream is applicable to the skin and

preferably on the abdominal or reproductive area of

the surface. I am going to try the homeopathic route

first before trying any surgery. I feel that it is so

unnecessary to just remove organs that have a purpose

of some sort. tina

--- cybrcat wrote:

> Hi Tina,

>

> There are all kinds of theories out there about why

> fibroids develop. Some believe it's related to

> progesterone, some think it's estrogen, some relate

> it

> to diet and lifestyle - but I don't know that any of

> those theories have been definitively proven yet. I

> don't have any experience with progesterone cream,

> but

> it probably can't hurt to try it. Does it get

> absorbed

> by the skin? Where do you apply it, or does it not

> matter?

>

> Also - I don't know all the details of your

> fibroids,

> but I wanted to say that you might want to get a

> second opinion before you agree to have a

> hysterectomy. It's a pretty drastic treatment for

> benign fibroids, and most of the time it is not

> considered medically necessary unless there is

> cancer.

> At the very least, you could ask your doc whether

> he/she can just remove the fibroid instead of your

> entire uterus - especially if you don't have any

> symptoms.

>

> Keep us posted,

> ==Cat

>

> --- Tina Swartz wrote:

> > I am thirty-seven and recently diagnosed with a

> > fibroid on the outside of my uterus the size of my

> > uterus. My doctor wants to do a complete

> > hysterectomy

> > but I am going to try a homeopathic progesterone

> > creme. My understanding is that I do not have

> enough

> > progesterone and that is what is causing the

> > fibroids.

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Kitty,

I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND that there has been re-growth

throughout the uterus?

Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have such a big re-growth.

Bonnie

Kitty wrote:

> Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> In addition, the fibroids are throughout my uterus,

> inside, outside, inside cavity.

>

> these things are just everywhere. I guess they are in

> love with me and dont want to go away.....

>

> Kitty

>

> --- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as well.Is

> > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am 6

> > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > did and they were numnerous and large, the uterus

> > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > menopause,but it is enlarged without fibroids.Can

> > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and how

> > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra sound

> > or CT scan?

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

> >

> > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18 weeks

> > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > size of fibroids which you

> > > have removed year ago.

> > > I am considering surgery next months but if I am

> > to have the same amount the

> > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > >

> > > Nina

> > >

> > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing an

> > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > decided

> > > on another route because I dont want another myo.

> > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > 18week

> > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > since

> > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > days of

> > > just spotting

> > >

> > > kelp

> > > Primrose Oil

> > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules or

> > > E-tea,

> > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > scavenger

> > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed chickens.

> > same

> > > for eggs.

> > > also cut down on caffeine

> > >

> > > hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Kitty,

I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND that there has been re-growth

throughout the uterus?

Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have such a big re-growth.

Bonnie

Kitty wrote:

> Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> In addition, the fibroids are throughout my uterus,

> inside, outside, inside cavity.

>

> these things are just everywhere. I guess they are in

> love with me and dont want to go away.....

>

> Kitty

>

> --- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as well.Is

> > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am 6

> > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > did and they were numnerous and large, the uterus

> > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > menopause,but it is enlarged without fibroids.Can

> > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and how

> > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra sound

> > or CT scan?

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

> >

> > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18 weeks

> > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > size of fibroids which you

> > > have removed year ago.

> > > I am considering surgery next months but if I am

> > to have the same amount the

> > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > >

> > > Nina

> > >

> > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing an

> > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > decided

> > > on another route because I dont want another myo.

> > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > 18week

> > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > since

> > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > days of

> > > just spotting

> > >

> > > kelp

> > > Primrose Oil

> > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules or

> > > E-tea,

> > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > scavenger

> > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed chickens.

> > same

> > > for eggs.

> > > also cut down on caffeine

> > >

> > > hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Kitty,

I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND that there has been re-growth

throughout the uterus?

Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have such a big re-growth.

Bonnie

Kitty wrote:

> Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> In addition, the fibroids are throughout my uterus,

> inside, outside, inside cavity.

>

> these things are just everywhere. I guess they are in

> love with me and dont want to go away.....

>

> Kitty

>

> --- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as well.Is

> > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am 6

> > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > did and they were numnerous and large, the uterus

> > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > menopause,but it is enlarged without fibroids.Can

> > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and how

> > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra sound

> > or CT scan?

> > Best,

> > Bonnie

> >

> > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18 weeks

> > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > size of fibroids which you

> > > have removed year ago.

> > > I am considering surgery next months but if I am

> > to have the same amount the

> > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > >

> > > Nina

> > >

> > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing an

> > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > decided

> > > on another route because I dont want another myo.

> > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > 18week

> > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > since

> > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > days of

> > > just spotting

> > >

> > > kelp

> > > Primrose Oil

> > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules or

> > > E-tea,

> > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > scavenger

> > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed chickens.

> > same

> > > for eggs.

> > > also cut down on caffeine

> > >

> > > hope it helps.

> > >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Yes, the uterus has stretched and I do have regrowth

of 6 fibroids. However, the myo was in 1997, and

regrowth occurred again in 1998. But, the most recent

ultra sound was in June 2001 and I was given the size

and count then. My major problems started occurring

again in 2001. I guess between 1998-2000 the fibroids

were not a size that caused problems for me..

Kitty

--- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> Kitty,

> I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

> Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND

> that there has been re-growth throughout the uterus?

>

> Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have

> such a big re-growth.

> Bonnie

>

> Kitty wrote:

>

> > Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> > fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> > In addition, the fibroids are throughout my

> uterus,

> > inside, outside, inside cavity.

> >

> > these things are just everywhere. I guess they are

> in

> > love with me and dont want to go away.....

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> > --- " Pedro B. Gandol "

> wrote:

> > > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as

> well.Is

> > > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am

> 6

> > > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > > did and they were numnerous and large, the

> uterus

> > > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > > menopause,but it is enlarged without

> fibroids.Can

> > > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and

> how

> > > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra

> sound

> > > or CT scan?

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18

> weeks

> > > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > > size of fibroids which you

> > > > have removed year ago.

> > > > I am considering surgery next months but if I

> am

> > > to have the same amount the

> > > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > > >

> > > > Nina

> > > >

> > > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing

> an

> > > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > > decided

> > > > on another route because I dont want another

> myo.

> > > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > > 18week

> > > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > > since

> > > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > > days of

> > > > just spotting

> > > >

> > > > kelp

> > > > Primrose Oil

> > > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules

> or

> > > > E-tea,

> > > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > > scavenger

> > > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed

> chickens.

> > > same

> > > > for eggs.

> > > > also cut down on caffeine

> > > >

> > > > hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Yes, the uterus has stretched and I do have regrowth

of 6 fibroids. However, the myo was in 1997, and

regrowth occurred again in 1998. But, the most recent

ultra sound was in June 2001 and I was given the size

and count then. My major problems started occurring

again in 2001. I guess between 1998-2000 the fibroids

were not a size that caused problems for me..

Kitty

--- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> Kitty,

> I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

> Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND

> that there has been re-growth throughout the uterus?

>

> Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have

> such a big re-growth.

> Bonnie

>

> Kitty wrote:

>

> > Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> > fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> > In addition, the fibroids are throughout my

> uterus,

> > inside, outside, inside cavity.

> >

> > these things are just everywhere. I guess they are

> in

> > love with me and dont want to go away.....

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> > --- " Pedro B. Gandol "

> wrote:

> > > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as

> well.Is

> > > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am

> 6

> > > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > > did and they were numnerous and large, the

> uterus

> > > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > > menopause,but it is enlarged without

> fibroids.Can

> > > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and

> how

> > > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra

> sound

> > > or CT scan?

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18

> weeks

> > > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > > size of fibroids which you

> > > > have removed year ago.

> > > > I am considering surgery next months but if I

> am

> > > to have the same amount the

> > > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > > >

> > > > Nina

> > > >

> > > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing

> an

> > > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > > decided

> > > > on another route because I dont want another

> myo.

> > > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > > 18week

> > > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > > since

> > > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > > days of

> > > > just spotting

> > > >

> > > > kelp

> > > > Primrose Oil

> > > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules

> or

> > > > E-tea,

> > > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > > scavenger

> > > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed

> chickens.

> > > same

> > > > for eggs.

> > > > also cut down on caffeine

> > > >

> > > > hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

Yes, the uterus has stretched and I do have regrowth

of 6 fibroids. However, the myo was in 1997, and

regrowth occurred again in 1998. But, the most recent

ultra sound was in June 2001 and I was given the size

and count then. My major problems started occurring

again in 2001. I guess between 1998-2000 the fibroids

were not a size that caused problems for me..

Kitty

--- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> Kitty,

> I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

> Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND

> that there has been re-growth throughout the uterus?

>

> Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have

> such a big re-growth.

> Bonnie

>

> Kitty wrote:

>

> > Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> > fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> > In addition, the fibroids are throughout my

> uterus,

> > inside, outside, inside cavity.

> >

> > these things are just everywhere. I guess they are

> in

> > love with me and dont want to go away.....

> >

> > Kitty

> >

> > --- " Pedro B. Gandol "

> wrote:

> > > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as

> well.Is

> > > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am

> 6

> > > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > > did and they were numnerous and large, the

> uterus

> > > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > > menopause,but it is enlarged without

> fibroids.Can

> > > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and

> how

> > > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra

> sound

> > > or CT scan?

> > > Best,

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> > > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18

> weeks

> > > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > > size of fibroids which you

> > > > have removed year ago.

> > > > I am considering surgery next months but if I

> am

> > > to have the same amount the

> > > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > > >

> > > > Nina

> > > >

> > > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing

> an

> > > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > > decided

> > > > on another route because I dont want another

> myo.

> > > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > > 18week

> > > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > > since

> > > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > > days of

> > > > just spotting

> > > >

> > > > kelp

> > > > Primrose Oil

> > > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules

> or

> > > > E-tea,

> > > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > > scavenger

> > > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed

> chickens.

> > > same

> > > > for eggs.

> > > > also cut down on caffeine

> > > >

> > > > hope it helps.

> > > >

> > > > Kitty

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Okay I understand.It its a fast re-growth don't you think? I'm not thinking

anything ominious,so

don't get me wrong,it just seems like a quick return.I hope you will find a

solution

Best,

Bonnie

Kitty wrote:

> Bonnie,

>

> Yes, the uterus has stretched and I do have regrowth

> of 6 fibroids. However, the myo was in 1997, and

> regrowth occurred again in 1998. But, the most recent

> ultra sound was in June 2001 and I was given the size

> and count then. My major problems started occurring

> again in 2001. I guess between 1998-2000 the fibroids

> were not a size that caused problems for me..

>

> Kitty

> --- " Pedro B. Gandol " wrote:

> > Kitty,

> > I'm still not 100% clear-sorry.

> > Are you saying that the uterus has stretched AND

> > that there has been re-growth throughout the uterus?

> >

> > Its just that 1 year seems awfully short to have

> > such a big re-growth.

> > Bonnie

> >

> > Kitty wrote:

> >

> > > Sorry I wasnt clear. The uterus stretched due to

> > > fibroids. It was determined by ultrasound.

> > > In addition, the fibroids are throughout my

> > uterus,

> > > inside, outside, inside cavity.

> > >

> > > these things are just everywhere. I guess they are

> > in

> > > love with me and dont want to go away.....

> > >

> > > Kitty

> > >

> > > --- " Pedro B. Gandol "

> > wrote:

> > > > I'm interested in this type of re-growth as

> > well.Is

> > > > this 18weeks all fibroids?Or is it that the

> > > > uterus has stretched and so it is enlarged?I am

> > 6

> > > > months post and don't have fibroids but becauseI

> > > > did and they were numnerous and large, the

> > uterus

> > > > has stretched.This may shrink down again with

> > > > menopause,but it is enlarged without

> > fibroids.Can

> > > > you explain the amount of fibroid re-growth and

> > how

> > > > this was determined? By exam only or by Ultra

> > sound

> > > > or CT scan?

> > > > Best,

> > > > Bonnie

> > > >

> > > > TOJANINKA@... wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Kitty

> > > > >

> > > > > One year after myo. and your uterus is 18

> > weeks

> > > > size? This is incredible. Can

> > > > > I ask you how old you are and how many and the

> > > > size of fibroids which you

> > > > > have removed year ago.

> > > > > I am considering surgery next months but if I

> > am

> > > > to have the same amount the

> > > > > size of fibroids I may reconsider.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nina

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm being treated with herbs. Have been seeing

> > an

> > > > > herbalist/Dr of Naturopathy. So far so good. I

> > > > decided

> > > > > on another route because I dont want another

> > myo.

> > > > > fibroids came back after 1year. uterus size of

> > > > 18week

> > > > > . I'm taking the following. Have been on these

> > > > since

> > > > > October. My last period was this month. Only 2

> > > > days of

> > > > > just spotting

> > > > >

> > > > > kelp

> > > > > Primrose Oil

> > > > > Vitiamin e, Bayberry, Wild yam, Esiak capsules

> > or

> > > > > E-tea,

> > > > > I've also changed my diet. no beef pork or

> > > > scavenger

> > > > > fish. only eat chicken from veggie fed

> > chickens.

> > > > same

> > > > > for eggs.

> > > > > also cut down on caffeine

> > > > >

> > > > > hope it helps.

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> > > > > Kitty

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