Re: Don't discredit Natural Medicine!

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>

> I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It is

> not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it? Yes,

> people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

think

> it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

> I honestly don't know what I would do without my supplements! It

got

> me to about 75%....and the Enbrel is going to take me the rest of

the

> way. There is no reason we all can't use a combo of Natural and

> synthetic medicine.

>

> Don't dis it, until you try it....is all I am saying. And just like

> we all go see doctors to get our drugs....you have to see a

specialty

> dr. to get a supplement regimine, that is tailor fit to you.

>

> I'd be puking in the toilet tomorrow morning if I didn't have my

> Ginger root tablets. I'd also not be in school right now, without

my

> energy supplements.....and I skipped many trips to the ER this

year,

> since my BP is under control. Also my husband and I get along a lot

> better now that my hormones are in check....all thanks to my

> supplement regimine! It works. You just have to do it right, and

give

> it a little time.

>

> I had a friend that had chronic UTI's, nothing her MD could do

would

> make them go away. She saw a Naturopathic Pysician and it cured it.

> You never know!

>

> Nature made us....why can't it heal us?

>

> Just my two cents.

> P.S. I am not a tree-hugger or health freak or anything of the

such.

> I am a chubby 25 year old with RA....looking for anything and

> everything that will make me feel better. Natural medicine did it

for

> me! I am a completely different person

now.

>I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT MY RA FOR ABOUT 8 YEARS NOW AND MY DOCTOR ONLY

WANTS TO DO METHOTREXATE AND PAIN MEDS WHAT SUPPLEMENTS DO YOU TAKE

TO HELP?

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MD's do not believe in Natural Medicine...they don't even study it.

That is why they would never mention it to you.

You'd have to seek advise from a Naturopathic Pysician. I have a

regimine tailored to the organ/endocrine systems that were affected

by my RA. Everyone is different. So the things I take, wouldn't

necessarily work for everyone.

Here is the list, just in case your interested:

Daily children's chewable - I can't take the adult one, because I am

allergic to copper

Flaxseed and Primrose oil combo

CoEnzyme Q-10 200 mg - helps with energy and heart health

Daily b-6 injection - took away my nerve pain completely

Weekly b-12 injections - helps a lot with energy

DHEA(hormone precursor) 10 mg - balanced my hormones

Choline 1250 mg and Inositol 1250mg day - helps brain funtion - my

mental fatigue

Biotin 5000 mcg/day - helping to grow back the hair I lost taking

prednisone

Calcium/Magnisum/ Vit D liquid - all women should take it, I take it

at night, and it helps me sleep also

Arabinoglactin 1.3g - Immune enhancer - helped with everything, I can

tell if I miss a dose I feel yucky the next day, wether it be

allergies or RA pain and swelling. This stuff is made from the bark

of a tree?!?! It does amazing things, I can't even tell you.

histamininium hydrochloricum - homeopathic for allergies (help with

the reaction)

Traumeel - homeopathic anti-inflammatory (since I can't take NSAID's)

Arnicare Gel - topical pain relief gel (homeopathic) no drugs in it.

Ginger Trips - helps with nasea related to my Enbrel

Airborne for Allergies - works great to prevent them, balances

histimine levels

My Synthetic drug list is much shorter :)See:

Enbrel - once a week for Ra

Lopressor - for blood pressure, I've been so great lately I might be

able to go off of it or lower the dose

Xanax XR - for anxiety, don't have any anymore, so I am going to be

stepping down off of it

Depo- Provera - birth control

Tramadol - for pain as needed.....significanlty reduced this since I

started the Enbrel

> >

> > I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It

is

> > not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it?

Yes,

> > people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

> think

> > it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> > ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

> > I honestly don't know what I would do without my supplements! It

> got

> > me to about 75%....and the Enbrel is going to take me the rest of

> the

> > way. There is no reason we all can't use a combo of Natural and

> > synthetic medicine.

> >

> > Don't dis it, until you try it....is all I am saying. And just

like

> > we all go see doctors to get our drugs....you have to see a

> specialty

> > dr. to get a supplement regimine, that is tailor fit to you.

> >

> > I'd be puking in the toilet tomorrow morning if I didn't have my

> > Ginger root tablets. I'd also not be in school right now, without

> my

> > energy supplements.....and I skipped many trips to the ER this

> year,

> > since my BP is under control. Also my husband and I get along a

lot

> > better now that my hormones are in check....all thanks to my

> > supplement regimine! It works. You just have to do it right, and

> give

> > it a little time.

> >

> > I had a friend that had chronic UTI's, nothing her MD could do

> would

> > make them go away. She saw a Naturopathic Pysician and it cured

it.

> > You never know!

> >

> > Nature made us....why can't it heal us?

> >

> > Just my two cents.

> > P.S. I am not a tree-hugger or health freak or anything of the

> such.

> > I am a chubby 25 year old with RA....looking for anything and

> > everything that will make me feel better. Natural medicine did it

> for

> > me! I am a completely different person

>

now.

>

>

> >I HAVE KNOWN ABOUT MY RA FOR ABOUT 8 YEARS NOW AND MY DOCTOR ONLY

> WANTS TO DO METHOTREXATE AND PAIN MEDS WHAT SUPPLEMENTS DO YOU TAKE

> TO HELP?

>

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Hi

I suspect my light-hearted post re. my Mum thinking cider vinegar and

aloe vera juice would cure me was one of the posts that irked you. I

think you misintepreted it as an attack on natural supplements, which

it certainly wasn't: It's wonderful that your supplements are helping

you so effectively! I've tried fish oil and other things myself, in

combination with my meds.

What I was trying to convey was my frustration that after 15 years,

people still don't 'get' our disease - that there is no cure as such

and we don't take mtx and biologics for fun but because we have to.

I had a hip replacement at 40 (18 months ago) and am having my big

toe fused soon (and extra bone spurs removed) due to my arthritis.

But it's thanks to the mtx and sulphasalazine that I am currently in

remission (for the 3rd time).

Keep taking all the supplements that are helping so much

in NZ

>

> I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It is

> not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it? Yes,

> people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

think

> it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

[Guest guest]

Is embrel a naturopath medicine? I thought otherwise..

 

Regards...

Nagarajan

 

 

 

[ ] Don't discredit Natural Medicine!

I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It is

not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it? Yes,

people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and think

it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

I honestly don't know what I would do without my supplements! It got

me to about 75%....and the Enbrel is going to take me the rest of the

way. There is no reason we all can't use a combo of Natural and

synthetic medicine.

Don't dis it, until you try it....is all I am saying. And just like

we all go see doctors to get our drugs....you have to see a specialty

dr. to get a supplement regimine, that is tailor fit to you.

I'd be puking in the toilet tomorrow morning if I didn't have my

Ginger root tablets. I'd also not be in school right now, without my

energy supplements. ....and I skipped many trips to the ER this year,

since my BP is under control. Also my husband and I get along a lot

better now that my hormones are in check....all thanks to my

supplement regimine! It works. You just have to do it right, and give

it a little time.

I had a friend that had chronic UTI's, nothing her MD could do would

make them go away. She saw a Naturopathic Pysician and it cured it.

You never know!

Nature made us....why can't it heal us?

Just my two cents.

P.S. I am not a tree-hugger or health freak or anything of the such.

I am a chubby 25 year old with RA....looking for anything and

everything that will make me feel better. Natural medicine did it for

me! I am a completely different person now.

[Guest guest]

I take vitamin d, Flaxseed oil, b 12, also vitamin c with rose hips. I am

not on pain meds

Jolene

In a message dated 8/4/2008 11:06:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

clora4jesus@... writes:

and group

I woke up this morning itching like crazy. I didnt take my

sulpazaline to see if that is the culprit. It never fails I itch

from a lot of things, but it was bad this morning.

You said mum, are you in the UK. lol. I have a chat room and a lot

of them are from the uk and they say mum. I am going to check out

some natural medicine. I heard a lot about FISH OIL. I am not a

natural suppliment person, however; what can it hurt. I love

sardines and its got fish oil in it haaaaaaaaaaa. Havent ate them

for so long cause of familys distaste for it lol.

I am not going hog wild on suppliments or natural remidies. I am

just going to try a few of them. No worries, I will talk to my

rheumy about it first. I have a list of 101 ways cider vingegar can

be used. e.g. cleaning, cloth soaked in it for body aches. and so

on. I got to find the list first lol Some of the remedies I never

heard of so I am going to be very careful. The natural ones I know

about I am trying.

Your having your big bone on your toe fused. OUCH. Please send me

some ideas about natural remedies. I will take it to my doctor and

get her to ok it. I want to try some. Send to my home email if you

like.

gentle hugs everyone

Clora

> Hi

>

> I suspect my light-hearted post re. my Mum thinking cider vinegar

and

> aloe vera juice would cure me was one of the posts that irked you.

I

> think you misintepreted it as an attack on natural supplements,

which

> it certainly wasn't: It's wonderful that your supplements are

helping

> you so effectively! I've tried fish oil and other things myself,

in

> combination with my meds.

>

> What I was trying to convey was my frustration that after 15

years,

> people still don't 'get' our disease - that there is no cure as

such

> and we don't take mtx and biologics for fun but because we have to.

>

> I had a hip replacement at 40 (18 months ago) and am having my big

> toe fused soon (and extra bone spurs removed) due to my arthritis.

> But it's thanks to the mtx and sulphasalazine that I am currently

in

> remission (for the 3rd time).

>

> Keep taking all the supplements that are helping so much

>

> in NZ

>

>

>

> >

> > I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It

is

> > not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it?

Yes,

> > people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

> think

> > it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> > ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

>

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and group

I woke up this morning itching like crazy. I didnt take my

sulpazaline to see if that is the culprit. It never fails I itch

from a lot of things, but it was bad this morning.

You said mum, are you in the UK. lol. I have a chat room and a lot

of them are from the uk and they say mum. I am going to check out

some natural medicine. I heard a lot about FISH OIL. I am not a

natural suppliment person, however; what can it hurt. I love

sardines and its got fish oil in it haaaaaaaaaaa. Havent ate them

for so long cause of familys distaste for it lol.

I am not going hog wild on suppliments or natural remidies. I am

just going to try a few of them. No worries, I will talk to my

rheumy about it first. I have a list of 101 ways cider vingegar can

be used. e.g. cleaning, cloth soaked in it for body aches. and so

on. I got to find the list first lol Some of the remedies I never

heard of so I am going to be very careful. The natural ones I know

about I am trying.

Your having your big bone on your toe fused. OUCH. Please send me

some ideas about natural remedies. I will take it to my doctor and

get her to ok it. I want to try some. Send to my home email if you

like.

gentle hugs everyone

Clora

> Hi

>

> I suspect my light-hearted post re. my Mum thinking cider vinegar

and

> aloe vera juice would cure me was one of the posts that irked you.

I

> think you misintepreted it as an attack on natural supplements,

which

> it certainly wasn't: It's wonderful that your supplements are

helping

> you so effectively! I've tried fish oil and other things myself,

in

> combination with my meds.

>

> What I was trying to convey was my frustration that after 15

years,

> people still don't 'get' our disease - that there is no cure as

such

> and we don't take mtx and biologics for fun but because we have to.

>

> I had a hip replacement at 40 (18 months ago) and am having my big

> toe fused soon (and extra bone spurs removed) due to my arthritis.

> But it's thanks to the mtx and sulphasalazine that I am currently

in

> remission (for the 3rd time).

>

> Keep taking all the supplements that are helping so much

>

> in NZ

>

>

>

> >

> > I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It

is

> > not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it?

Yes,

> > people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

> think

> > it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> > ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

>

[Guest guest]

Nargarajan and group

What is a Naturopath medicine???

gentle sweet hugs

Clora

>

> Is embrel a naturopath medicine? I thought otherwise..

>

>  

> Regards...

> Nagarajan

>  

>  

>  

>

>

>

> [ ] Don't discredit Natural Medicine!

>

>

> I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It is

> not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it? Yes,

> people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

think

> it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

> I honestly don't know what I would do without my supplements! It

got

> me to about 75%....and the Enbrel is going to take me the rest of

the

> way. There is no reason we all can't use a combo of Natural and

> synthetic medicine.

>

> Don't dis it, until you try it....is all I am saying. And just

like

> we all go see doctors to get our drugs....you have to see a

specialty

> dr. to get a supplement regimine, that is tailor fit to you.

>

> I'd be puking in the toilet tomorrow morning if I didn't have my

> Ginger root tablets. I'd also not be in school right now, without

my

> energy supplements. ....and I skipped many trips to the ER this

year,

> since my BP is under control. Also my husband and I get along a

lot

> better now that my hormones are in check....all thanks to my

> supplement regimine! It works. You just have to do it right, and

give

> it a little time.

>

> I had a friend that had chronic UTI's, nothing her MD could do

would

> make them go away. She saw a Naturopathic Pysician and it cured

it.

> You never know!

>

> Nature made us....why can't it heal us?

>

> Just my two cents.

> P.S. I am not a tree-hugger or health freak or anything of the

such.

> I am a chubby 25 year old with RA....looking for anything and

> everything that will make me feel better. Natural medicine did it

for

> me! I am a completely different person now.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

No, Enbrel is a very expensive biologic medication. That's what I'm on,

and it works very well for me.

Sue

On Monday, August 4, 2008, at 06:00 AM, R. Nagarajan wrote:

> Is embrel a naturopath medicine? I thought otherwise..

>

>  

> Regards...

> Nagarajan

[Guest guest]

Enbrel certainly is not a natural or homeopathic medicine. I take it

in addition to everything else.

Natrual medicine, just means things like vitamins, herbal

supplements, minerals, essential fatty acids, enzymes, gladular aids

etc. I take an immune enhancer made from the bark of a certain

tree....and let me tell you, I can tell if I miss a dose. I hurt the

next day. It really just means things made from nature that have been

found to help certain body functions as well as things that our body

produces naturally but for some reason we are not producing them.

With us RA patients on so many synthetics, sometimes are bodies are

lacking in certain areas, so we need to replace what the medicine has

taken away...i.e. calcium, or folic acid etc.

Oh and I don't even know what cider vinager does. BUT Aloe juice

helps soothe your tummy, I know that.

People don't understand RA, natural medicine alone can't fix it,

nothing can. But try to understand that people who suggest it, are

just trying to help you. It had probably done wonders for them, so

why not pass the info on to you?

I has done alot for me, I find the less " drugs " I put in my body the

better I feel. If I can find something natrual to take instead of

something synthetic, I will. I have never had any side effects from

natural medicine.

Sometimgs I think drugs are a vicious cycle, you take something to

help you with a certina ailment, and then you have to take something

else for the side effects. That is why I try not to take so many

drugs, and more natural medicine.

The result is a much healthier me!

I went from a person who bearly got out of bed. To someone going to

school everyday for 6 hours a day, and now I am looking for a job,

whereas before I thought I'd never work again.

Don't get me wrong, I still couldn't workout, I still had pain...but

I didn't have all the other junk that goes along with having RA.

Enbrel has helped alot now, I can workout! I am a more complete

person, and feel healthier than ever.

>

> Nargarajan and group

>

> What is a Naturopath medicine???

>

> gentle sweet hugs

> Clora

> >

>

>

> > Is embrel a naturopath medicine? I thought otherwise..

> >

> >  

> > Regards...

> > Nagarajan

> >  

> >  

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > [ ] Don't discredit Natural Medicine!

> >

> >

> > I have read a few post lately discrediting Natural Medicine. It

is

> > not the " Cure All " for us RA patients- but nothing is! Is it?

Yes,

> > people don't understand, and tell you to take supplements, and

> think

> > it will fix it. WELL, let me tell everyone - It might not fix us

> > ENTIRELY, but it definately helps if done correctly!!!

> > I honestly don't know what I would do without my supplements! It

> got

> > me to about 75%....and the Enbrel is going to take me the rest of

> the

> > way. There is no reason we all can't use a combo of Natural and

> > synthetic medicine.

> >

> > Don't dis it, until you try it....is all I am saying. And just

> like

> > we all go see doctors to get our drugs....you have to see a

> specialty

> > dr. to get a supplement regimine, that is tailor fit to you.

> >

> > I'd be puking in the toilet tomorrow morning if I didn't have my

> > Ginger root tablets. I'd also not be in school right now, without

> my

> > energy supplements. ....and I skipped many trips to the ER this

> year,

> > since my BP is under control. Also my husband and I get along a

> lot

> > better now that my hormones are in check....all thanks to my

> > supplement regimine! It works. You just have to do it right, and

> give

> > it a little time.

> >

> > I had a friend that had chronic UTI's, nothing her MD could do

> would

> > make them go away. She saw a Naturopathic Pysician and it cured

> it.

> > You never know!

> >

> > Nature made us....why can't it heal us?

> >

> > Just my two cents.

> > P.S. I am not a tree-hugger or health freak or anything of the

> such.

> > I am a chubby 25 year old with RA....looking for anything and

> > everything that will make me feel better. Natural medicine did it

> for

> > me! I am a completely different person now.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks..

 

Regards...

Nagarajan

 

 

 

Re: [ ] Don't discredit Natural Medicine!

No, Enbrel is a very expensive biologic medication. That's what I'm on,

and it works very well for me.

Sue

On Monday, August 4, 2008, at 06:00 AM, R. Nagarajan wrote:

> Is embrel a naturopath medicine? I thought otherwise..

>

>  

> Regards...

> Nagarajan