Aches and pains

[Guest guest]

That makes so much since since we are all energy....well, I'm pagan and

that is the way we see all life forms....as the same energy.

I was skeptic when she sent me these magnets. They were just little low

gauss (a good one is 10,000 guase) magnets and I just stuck them in my

medicine cabinet because surely it couldn't work. But today I was so

desperate I gave them a try....and went out and bought some 10,000 gause

ones. They have all sizes and some are flexible for use on shoulders,

elbose, knees etc. They even had one for the back.

I'm a believer now and regret not trying them sooner.

claudine intexas wrote:

>

> --- Tatezi <tatezi@...> wrote:

> > I found a wonderful thing for aches and pains. A

> > friend sent me some

> > magnets that are used for aches and pains. ....

> After

> > some hours the places where the magnets were,

> > weren't hurting any more

> > and I moved them to other locations.

> > Wow, even my sciatica pain is gone. I feel like a..

>

> I've seen the claims too, but never knew anyone who

> actually used them. That sounds so weird! On the other

> hand... Well, my grandfather was an electrical

> engineer, civil service, worked for the air force, and

> many said he was a genius. My father has often said

> that he claimed that when electricity was 'discovered'

> people screwed up by ignoring the magnetic properties

> of electricity, not learning and researching that

> aspect of it. The human body produces electrical

> currents... magnets, electricity... I wouldn't know, I

> don't know anything about either! But it is

> interesting! And if it works, great! Many times

> remedies are in use long before anyone can explain WHY

> they work.

> C

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know any technical info....only that a friend thought I should

try them and she swears by them. They come in all sizes for different

areas of the body....I just bought 4 of the little ones (money was the

deciding factor because I wanted one of each <g>) and as one spot would

stop hurting I'd move the magnet to the next spot.

FYI...Don't use the tape that comes with them....it falls off and then

you lose the magnet..I bought some sensitive skin adhesive tape and it's

been working great.

All I know is they worked for me so I'm a believer.

Ron wrote:

> What is the difference in type of magnets, the size or what?

> They all produce the same kind of energy

--

" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated. " ~Mahatma Gandhi~

[Guest guest]

I don't know any technical info....only that a friend thought I should

try them and she swears by them. They come in all sizes for different

areas of the body....I just bought 4 of the little ones (money was the

deciding factor because I wanted one of each <g>) and as one spot would

stop hurting I'd move the magnet to the next spot.

FYI...Don't use the tape that comes with them....it falls off and then

you lose the magnet..I bought some sensitive skin adhesive tape and it's

been working great.

All I know is they worked for me so I'm a believer.

Ron wrote:

> What is the difference in type of magnets, the size or what?

> They all produce the same kind of energy

--

" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated. " ~Mahatma Gandhi~

[Guest guest]

I don't know any technical info....only that a friend thought I should

try them and she swears by them. They come in all sizes for different

areas of the body....I just bought 4 of the little ones (money was the

deciding factor because I wanted one of each <g>) and as one spot would

stop hurting I'd move the magnet to the next spot.

FYI...Don't use the tape that comes with them....it falls off and then

you lose the magnet..I bought some sensitive skin adhesive tape and it's

been working great.

All I know is they worked for me so I'm a believer.

Ron wrote:

> What is the difference in type of magnets, the size or what?

> They all produce the same kind of energy

--

" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated. " ~Mahatma Gandhi~

[Guest guest]

I don't know any technical info....only that a friend thought I should

try them and she swears by them. They come in all sizes for different

areas of the body....I just bought 4 of the little ones (money was the

deciding factor because I wanted one of each <g>) and as one spot would

stop hurting I'd move the magnet to the next spot.

FYI...Don't use the tape that comes with them....it falls off and then

you lose the magnet..I bought some sensitive skin adhesive tape and it's

been working great.

All I know is they worked for me so I'm a believer.

Ron wrote:

> What is the difference in type of magnets, the size or what?

> They all produce the same kind of energy

--

" The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged

by the way its animals are treated. " ~Mahatma Gandhi~

[Guest guest]

I have a reservation about using magnets near my brain.... course, no one

has proven I HAVE a brain! hahha

alley

who took her Dutch friend out to a few bars last nite and is hurting today

from the smoke, the noise and just over doing it on a work day. I should

know better!

[Guest guest]

I have a reservation about using magnets near my brain.... course, no one

has proven I HAVE a brain! hahha

alley

who took her Dutch friend out to a few bars last nite and is hurting today

from the smoke, the noise and just over doing it on a work day. I should

know better!

[Guest guest]

Alley....

I'm going back to pick up another package of magnets this

afternoon....four is just not enough...LOL...and I'll ask the homepathic

doctor about using them around your brain....like for headaches and

such?

Sure hope I don't have to fly anywhere....I'd be setting off all the

machines <g>

Tatezi

AndromedaGurl wrote:

> I have a reservation about using magnets near my brain.... course, no

> one

> has proven I HAVE a brain! hahha

>

> alley

>

> who took her Dutch friend out to a few bars last nite and is hurting

> today

> from the smoke, the noise and just over doing it on a work day. I

> should

> know better!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alley....

I'm going back to pick up another package of magnets this

afternoon....four is just not enough...LOL...and I'll ask the homepathic

doctor about using them around your brain....like for headaches and

such?

Sure hope I don't have to fly anywhere....I'd be setting off all the

machines <g>

Tatezi

AndromedaGurl wrote:

> I have a reservation about using magnets near my brain.... course, no

> one

> has proven I HAVE a brain! hahha

>

> alley

>

> who took her Dutch friend out to a few bars last nite and is hurting

> today

> from the smoke, the noise and just over doing it on a work day. I

> should

> know better!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not everyone does good on the same drugs. Some

people do great on one drug and terrible on others. I

had the aches and pains on both synthroid and

unithroid, but am having less symptoms altogether on

unithroid. The supposed main difference between the 2 drugs

are fillers and dyes. Most likely with a " State

Owned " doc you will be beating your head against a wall

to get any t3 and since levoxyl is usually cheaper,

they probably aren't supposed to put you back on

synthroid. My doctors tried to tell me mine was the

beginnings of arthritis also, but it has always seemed to

come and go with both drugs and is very common with

thyroid sufferers.<br>Here are some links I recently put

together on all these aches and pains thyroid patients so

often get. Bee<br><br>Aches & Pains of Fibromyalgia as

Symptoms of <br>Hypothyroidism – Dr. Lowe

<br><a href=http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa042799.htm

target=new>http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa042799.htm</\

a> <br><br>Muscle & Joint Pain With Thyroid Disease

<br>(Tarsal Tunnel, etc.)

<br><a href=http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa101800a.htm

target=new>http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa101800a.htm<\

/a> <br><br>Rethinking the TSH Test: An Interview

with <br> Derry, M.D., Ph.D.

<br><a

href=http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa072500a.htm?terms=\

Derry

target=new>http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa072500a.htm?\

terms=Derry</a> <br><br>Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, and

Autoimmune <br>Thyroid Disease A Thyroid Disease

Website/Chronic <br>Fatigue Website Collaborative Article

<br><a href=http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa090897.htm

target=new>http://thyroid.about.com/health/thyroid/library/weekly/aa090897.htm</\

a> <br><br>Gail’s Thyroid Tips - Fibromyalgia

<br><a href=http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/w/u/wurmstei/

target=new>http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/w/u/wurmstei/</a>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for all the links! I'll bookmark

them and go through them later. I made an appointment

with a new doctor for next Wednesday-I haven't even

gotten the test results back yet from my last thryoid

test, I need to get those next week. If this doctor

doesn't let me try the T3, I guess I'll keep changing

till I find one that does. On this Unithroid, I have

more energy, but I also feel like I am about to jump

out of my skin! I have (had) two jobs, and at my day

job, I felt so edgy that when my boss yelled at me, I

told her off and walked out! I dont' know if it is my

thyroid " getting back in shape " or PMS...no telling!

[Guest guest]

thanks so much, bee!<br><br>i'm going to print out a few of those links and take

them to my next appointment.

[Guest guest]

One thing that I've learned in switching jobs

lately may or may not apply to you. If you have

continuous insurance coverage, your insurance company cannot

hold you to the 6 month waiting period for preexisting

conditions. You need to get proof of coverage from your

previous carrier, and submit it to your new insurance

company. I am not sure about if this applies to all

companies, but I believe it is a federal law. Perhaps

someone here knows more about it than do I. At any rate,

I would question your insurance companies about it.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

I did only 6 months of treatment before they stoped me but I aso

suffer more pain and aches than I did before I did the interferon......

I was not a responder so I don't know if that has anything to do with it

but the aches and pains gt bad after treatment.....

Angel Hugs,

Diane

May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity

[Guest guest]

Jerry-

My husband use to say some of the same things about living with all

women. He had an advantage though. He always said with the three of

us and pms, he new he had a chance of at least one good week a month!

Love Carole K

[Guest guest]

Hi All- Yeah I thought it was just " getting older " too. But once on the

tapazole (before the hives) I felt great - human for three days. Honest- I

hadn't felt that good in . . . .20 years. I'm working my way back into the

tap again but I have noticed my diet does do a number on me. Chocolate is the

worst. Had a hersey's last night and thought my heart was gonna bounce outta

my chest. You might want to keep a mental or written diary of your food

intake - and remember the effect of what you eat can show up immediately or a

days later.

So Sheri- Your stomach didn't tolerate the cleanse? Did you notice any

results? I'm looking through my calandar for the next best time to do a

fast/body cleanse. Hopefully in a couple of weeks. I was planning on doing

the lemon-oil thing but couldn't swallow it. . . =)

[Guest guest]

What IS the 'lemon-oil thing'?

Thanks,

Peta

[Guest guest]

Hi Peta and Everyone:

One variation of the " lemon - oil thing " is. Juice of 1 whole lemon, 2

tablespoons of virgin olive oil, 2 tablespoons of water, pinch of cayenne,

slice of ginger mashed. Now take this mixture, then, if you like follow with

an herb tea. Supposedly if you do this for between 3-7 days it is going to

get rid of any gallstones.

I could only do this for the 3 days because the lemon, cayenne mixture tends

to be to rough on my stomach, I could feel the gastric reflux starting over

again (very painful) so I stopped. Perhaps it did do some good, not really

sure, my back is still bothering me. I have this little booklet I got in the

health food store it's one of the " alive Natural Health Guides " Liver

Cleansing Handbook by Rhody Lake. This has another liver cleanse done in one

day " probably make me sick " but, I might give it a try. It seems most of

the Liver Cleanses that I see are done with the same ingredients.

P.S. I used to get acid reflux really badly, before I ever got

hyperthyroidism, I have come to the conclusion the reason was because. 1/ I

was still smoking, 2/ My digestive system was changing, " less tolerant " of

some foods like onions, hot spicy stuff etc. etc. I think smoking was a big

one, I quit cold turkey about 4 -5 years ago when I found out I was

hyperthyroid and if I continued smoking my eyes could go buggy like a frog.

I already had some signs of graves. Today no graves just all these other

health issues I am trying to help get rid of.

Have a great day. Sheri

Re: Re: aches and pains

>What IS the 'lemon-oil thing'?

>Thanks,

>Peta

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there no name and Everyone:

Yes, chocolate, chocolate, chocolate. I go crazy for chocolate. After

dinner I am just craving chocolate, it's almost as bad as quiting smoking. I

go to the store, I pick up that chocolate bar then put it back, trying to be

a good girl, then dinner time comes, after dinner I go nuts so I go for the

cocoa and make myself a hot chocolate, it's very pathetic.

I wrote about the cleanse in my message to Peta. I'm going to try this

other one in the Liver Cleanse book using the same ingredients. It's done

all in one day so hopefully won't bother my stomach.

Keep on truckin. Sheri

Re: aches and pains

>Hi All- Yeah I thought it was just " getting older " too. But once on the

>tapazole (before the hives) I felt great - human for three days. Honest- I

>hadn't felt that good in . . . .20 years. I'm working my way back into the

>tap again but I have noticed my diet does do a number on me. Chocolate is

the

>worst. Had a hersey's last night and thought my heart was gonna bounce

outta

>my chest. You might want to keep a mental or written diary of your food

>intake - and remember the effect of what you eat can show up immediately or

a

>days later.

>

>So Sheri- Your stomach didn't tolerate the cleanse? Did you notice any

>results? I'm looking through my calandar for the next best time to do a

>fast/body cleanse. Hopefully in a couple of weeks. I was planning on doing

>the lemon-oil thing but couldn't swallow it. . . =)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheri!

The one thing I cannot seem to give up is Starbucks hot chocolate with

cream (and sometimes a Rocky Road biscuit to go with it) !! I've given up

alcohol and I don't smoke, so it's my ONLY vice!!

Peta x

[Guest guest]

Liz,

You bring up a factor many do not realize. The joints most affected by my

Reactive Arthritis, i.e., Reiters Syndrome, over the years, which have swollen

to horrible demensions, are also the same ones now diagnosed as having

osteoarthritis. For example, my left knee has been swollen frequently as a

result of RS over the last 40 years. It is also the joint most affected by

osteoarthritis.

I would suppose that others on the list have similar stories.

Ray Neal, moderator

[Guest guest]

Alice: I tried taking Meloxicam and it was like I wasn't taking anything at

all.. well maybe 50% of the Bextra. I am on Bextra (20mg/day) and it works

consistently. I take 20mg twice daily when I need to play guitar the next day. I

think 60mg would do very well but I just don't want to take such a high dose.

There are lots of choices and I think they all affect everybody differently.

Dave

[ ] aches and pains

I am full of questions, and I do have another one....I taek

Meloxicam as my anti-imflammatory...and some days it helps, but

other days, its like I am not taking anything at all. Does this

happen to anyone else with PA ? I am finally going to see a Rheumy

on the 29th, and I also would appreciate any tips on what kinds of

questions to ask that might help.

Thankyou all very much

Alice

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I am full of questions, and I do have another one....I taek

> Meloxicam as my anti-imflammatory...and some days it helps, but

> other days, its like I am not taking anything at all. Does this

> happen to anyone else with PA ? I am finally going to see a Rheumy

> on the 29th, and I also would appreciate any tips on what kinds of

> questions to ask that might help.

>

> Thankyou all very much

> Alice

Hi Alice,

I take Piroxicam and I experience the same problems. I have heard

this from other folks so I experimented. I did not take it for a few

days. By the 4th day I had my answer and started taking the Piroxicam

again. Even though it feels like some days the meds are not helping I

found that without them The bad days are much worse. This was a

foolish but I got an answer to this Question. I take some Tylenol to

help take the edge off the pain. Good luck to you. You should never

change your drug routine without the doc's ok. Just this once I had

to find out on my own.

Steve

[Guest guest]

Hi Judy,

You might want to add real sea salt to water for minerals 1/8 tsp. to a

glass (or more if it is too salty). Also might want to add magnesium. I

use magnesium gel from www.globallight.net. You just rub it on your body or

buy the flakes and soak. You can also soak in Epsom salts which will then

absorb through your skin.

Allyn

aches and pains

Hello,

I am 45, slim and I am starting to have aches and

pains in my muscles, particularly my legs and feet. I

usually only where tennis shoes and I'm pretty active.

Walking my dogs in the woods about an hour every

morning.

I'm wondering if there is a supplement, or some

nutrition I am missing. I try to eat grass fed meats,

and lots of salads and other veggies, liver at least

once a week, milk and water kefir, kimchee and lots

of bone broths.

I take a lot of vitamin c,1/2 tsp blue ice clo, and a

vitamin b complex.

Every night my feet are cramping up, I'm getting a

bunion on the side of one foot, and I have Morton's

Neuroma in the other foot. My foot Dr. told me you

get these from too tight shoes, but I usually only

wear the tennis shoes, or flip flops in the summer.

Is their anything I can eat or take to help my muscles

out?

Thanks!

Judy

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- In , frumpyhead <frumpyhead@...>

wrote:

>

>

> Hello,

>

> I am 45, slim and I am starting to have aches and

> pains in my muscles, particularly my legs and feet...

> I'm wondering if there is a supplement, or some

> nutrition I am missing. I try to eat grass fed meats,

> and lots of salads and other veggies, liver at least

> once a week, milk and water kefir, kimchee and lots

> of bone broths.

....

> Every night my feet are cramping up, I'm getting a

> bunion on the side of one foot, and I have Morton's

> Neuroma in the other foot. My foot Dr. told me you

> get these from too tight shoes, but I usually only

> wear the tennis shoes, or flip flops in the summer.

>

> Is their anything I can eat or take to help my muscles

> out?

Judy,

I get leg cramps when I don't supplement with calcium/magnesium and

take one tsp. each dolomite and Now brand bone meal every day to

prevent them. Perhaps some epsom salt baths might also be useful for you.

Do you have any white spots on your nails? Are you getting at least

the rda of cal/mag--and hopefully more--daily? I'm guessing not, from

what you listed, unless you drink a lot of milk each day--do you eat

much cheese?

Also, imo Morton'e neuroma is caused by walking on the ball of the

foot, instead of distributing the weight evenly accross the whole

foot, which causes a spot beneath the foot where it meets the

toe--where there is a nerve-ending--to make weighted contact on a

continual basis, which is tremendously irritating, since this spot on

the foot shouldn't be weight-bearing, particularly, it should be

tucked up and underneath.

This can be greatly aggravated by the shoes, like if you always wear

stiletto heels, for instance--or if the shoes are too tight--but

it's typically a matter of habitual stance. Thus, it can be

corrected--or at least eased considerably--by becoming aware of how

you stand upon the feet, and learning to press down upon the entire

sole of the foot evenly, as if there were four corners to the foot,

and each was given equal pressure, paying especial attention to the

heels, and bringing the weight of the back of the body down upon them.

Sometimes, from too-tight shoes--or cleats, from childhood

sports--have deformed the foot somewhat, and caused the toes to be

drawn up permanently, as the tendons on the top of the foot become too

tight, exposing that tender little nerve-ending. This is a little

more problematic, and though you can work it out yourself, you would

likely benefit greatly from someone who can do myofascial work on the

feet as well as demonstrate for you the fundamentals of posture,

stance, and gait.

B.

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