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Diane, Group

Haaaaaaaaaa. It was about 20 years ago my toe did that. Now my whole

foot does it. I got to walk it out. It usually happens when I am

about to go to sleep. I learned what it was years ago. Kinda hard to

explain. My husband calls it a musyle spasm. Or a charley horse. He

says real cutely. Walk it off Clora. Walk it off Clora haaaaa. Cause

I am in bed hollering its my foot again its my foot again. lol.

Clora

> New to the group....after last night I figured it was time to make

some

> connections with others who are also dealing with RA.... It was

pretty

> strange....I was sitting on the couch with my feet up when I

started to

> get a cramp in my left foot...actually, it was my middle toe.

Usually

> if I get a cramp, I can pull out of it by flexing my toes. This

time,

> it didn't work. In fact after releasing my toes from a flex, the

> middle toe sort of popped out of alignment, not forward but almost

> backwards...I guess hyperextension would be the best way to

describe

> it. I tried to push my toes against the coffee table (putting

them

> back into neutral alignment) but it happened again....It really

freaked

> me ....nothing like this has ever happened before. I ended up

keep my

> feet perfectly flat on the floor and after about 15 minutes,

everything

> was back to normal.

> I have had RA for almost 2 years now and have been on Enbrel for

one.

> I have very little joint degradation (xrays) but lots of

inflammation

> that recently, makes walking, especially down stairs, a

> challenge....Not all the time...some days are really good but some

> days, like today, when it took everything I have to get down the

> stairs. I really really hate this disease!!!

> Diane

>

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Holy cow Diane! I get the same thing too. I thought I was going nuts

because it is just the one toe, right next to the big toe and only

that one. LOL Thanks for writing about it. And you are right this

disease does suck!

wendy

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> New to the group....after last night I figured it was time to make

some

> connections with others who are also dealing with RA.... It was

pretty

> strange....I was sitting on the couch with my feet up when I

started to

> get a cramp in my left foot...actually, it was my middle toe.

Usually

> if I get a cramp, I can pull out of it by flexing my toes. This

time,

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Diane and ,

I have this toe cramping also. Didn't post about it as I thought

everyone would certify me insane.

It started when I was taking a nap. First the great toe on the right

foot....OUCH. Then the 4 toes on the left foot. It was the muscles

that make me curl my toes. And boy did they ever curl under. So the

only way to break the spasm was to pull my toes up toward my face.

another ouch here.

I got up and drank 3 glasses of water and ate a baked potatoe. I must

have been either low on potassium or dehydrated. So figured I would

cover both bases.

It is nice to know that I am not nuts. Thanks to you both for sharing.

Maxine

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Maxine

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. yep I had that problem for many years. I

end up eating cause I am hungry I thought. Low on sodium or

potassium. Who knows lol?????????? I hate when it starts I am

about to sleep and darn. I got to walk my toes off. THats what helps

my toe cramps. haaaaaaaaaaaa.

Anyone here knows what that is. I think its a autonaumic problem

with the muscyles. When the fibers just work automatically. I

remember my instructor said that when the muscyles go into spasms,

its unknown why, Maybe they have figured it out since my college

days decades ago.

Clora

> Diane and ,

> I have this toe cramping also. Didn't post about it as I thought

> everyone would certify me insane.

>

> It started when I was taking a nap. First the great toe on the

right

> foot....OUCH. Then the 4 toes on the left foot. It was the

muscles

> that make me curl my toes. And boy did they ever curl under. So

the

> only way to break the spasm was to pull my toes up toward my face.

> another ouch here.

>

> I got up and drank 3 glasses of water and ate a baked potatoe. I

must

> have been either low on potassium or dehydrated. So figured I

would

> cover both bases.

>

> It is nice to know that I am not nuts. Thanks to you both for

sharing.

> Maxine

>

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Welcome, Diane. I have cramping in my toes and feet that I never had

before, too. I'm sorry you are having this, but its good to know

that its not just me. My rheumy suggests Gatorade or Seltzer Water to

replace electrolytes. Bananas help, too. Stairs are a biggie for me,

also. As if it weren't bad enough that I have a fear of heights, now

its compounded with stepping down. I hate this disease as well. But,

I guess the statement " that which does not kill us, makes us

stronger " would apply to all of us. We may not be stronger

physically, but emotionally we MUST have the market cornered!

Doreen

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> New to the group....after last night I figured it was time to make

> some connections with others who are also dealing with RA.... It

> was pretty strange....I was sitting on the couch with my feet up

> when I started to get a cramp in my left foot...actually, it was my

> middle toe. Usually if I get a cramp, I can pull out of it by

> flexing my toes. This time, it didn't work. In fact after

> releasing my toes from a flex, the middle toe sort of popped out of

> alignment, not forward but almost backwards...I guess

> hyperextension would be the best way to describe it. I tried to

> push my toes against the coffee table (putting them back into

> neutral alignment) but it happened again....It really freaked

> me ....nothing like this has ever happened before. I ended up keep

> my feet perfectly flat on the floor and after about 15 minutes,

> everything was back to normal. I have had RA for almost 2 years now

> and have been on Enbrel for one. I have very little joint

> degradation (xrays) but lots of inflammation that recently, makes

> walking, especially down stairs, a challenge....Not all the

> time...some days are really good but some days, like today, when it

> took everything I have to get down the stairs. I really really

> hate this disease!!!

> Diane

>

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I have had that several times as well and it really hurts. and not (not sure if

it is related)but my arches hurt if I am not my feet too much as well as my

toes...my toes and fingers started hurting me before anything else...my RA gave

me Lidoderm patches to put on them..

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Thanks, Dorothy!! You are right - it was tonic water. That wonderful

brain fog that comes with FMS causes me to mix up my words something

horrible. Thank you for correcting me...........Doreen :)

>

> I'm not sure seltzer has any electrolytes. I do know that drinking

> tonic water can help cramps since it has some quinine in it.

>

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Before getting diaginosed this year with the ra and vit d deficiency..I

used to get get cramps in my toes and arches...I could not figure it

out because my electolytes was also fine....So, when I saw the rheumy

the forst time and he did a vit d level and it eas low....After a week

of being on prescription strengh vit d,,,My cramps are gone...I

couldn't believe after all this time this is what it was...All in and

short just wondering if you had a vit d level lately???? diane

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kelly and everyone;

I use lidoderm patches for my lower back 2 of them. And one at the

top of my neck is a hump I put it on. It hurts intensely the hump

and lower lower back below the waist line. Hump could be from the

weight gain or the osteo. Its a small hump. My rheumy said the lower

pain is from osteo.

I have the same type of toe cramping since I was a teenager, I am 54

now. My question is, How do you get patches on your hands and feet.

I fingure you cut the patch out to fit like a forming band aid.

Love you all

gentle hugs to everyone;

Clora

>

> I have had that several times as well and it really hurts. and not

(not sure if it is related)but my arches hurt if I am not my feet

too much as well as my toes...my toes and fingers started hurting me

before anything else...my RA gave me Lidoderm patches to put on

them..

>

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