Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Chris- > Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are > excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite low. I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low enough to be dismissed. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Chris- > second, he > seemed pretty insulted that I politely criticized him in the footnote > to a footnote (yes, really, it was not the footnote but the footnote > of that footnote) of my one-meal--of-saturated-fat-a-day article, > despite giving him props in the main text, and I'm not quite sure he > ever got over that. That's it in a nutshell. He seems to be one of those unfortunates who's constitutionally incapable of brooking even the most polite disagreement. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 , > > Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are > > excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite low. > I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low > enough to be dismissed. Hmm. Well it would be interesting to see a quantification of these various different factors. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Chris- I should probably add that I meant that in a clinical or scientific sense; I'd guess that excretion isn't a large enough factor to make a practical difference to people whose interest lies solely in losing weight, though I suppose I could be wrong. - > > > Probably the least contributor. What proportion of ketones are > > > excreted compared to utilized? I would think it would be quite > low. > > > I don't know exactly, but while it is quite low, I doubt it's low > > enough to be dismissed. > > Hmm. Well it would be interesting to see a quantification of these > various different factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 , > I should probably add that I meant that in a clinical or scientific > sense; I'd guess that excretion isn't a large enough factor to make a > practical difference to people whose interest lies solely in losing > weight, though I suppose I could be wrong. Ah, I see. I was thinking in terms of making a practically meaningful contribution to the metabolic advantage. Then again, some of the things I mentioned may or may not be major contributors as well. There is also the fact that there is some in vitro evidence that ketones make cellular respiration *more efficient,* which could compensate for waste via excretion if it occurs in vivo. But efficient respiration could have a lot of benefits too. And if you have lots of ATP, you can do lots of things like detox and make anabolic hormones and stuff that you might not otherwise do. I really think the main advantage is probably through hormonal influence and by depriving adipose tissue fo the glycerol backbone for triglyceride synthesis, but that's just my personal bias I guess, as I haven't seen any data. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 No, I wish. Actually I did lose about 20 pounds when I tried the elimination diet. But gained most of it back when I added things back in.  [ ] weight loss I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you since have lost weight thanks Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I lost about 15 pounds, but it was from being anemic. I had a bleeding ulcer from Aleve. I took prescription iron, and the weight came back on, even though I was undergoing radiation treatments following a lumpectomy for breast cancer. I wish I could have kept those 15 pounds off. I'm not overweight, but at the top number for my height. Sue On Saturday, October 11, 2008, at 05:50 PM, Kathy wrote: > I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you > since have lost weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 I wish! in PA -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Kathy " <stepnitzcandles@...> I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you since have lost weight thanks Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 For any of you who have lost weight since starting your treatment for RA, don't worry! I think I found it. Thanks to the Prednisone. Grrrr.... If anyone is missing 15 pounds, you're welcome to have it back. I don't want it nor do I need it. I have enough thank you. Bob > > I wish! > > in PA > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " Kathy " <stepnitzcandles@...> > I was wondering if when you all were diagnosed with RA, if any of you since have lost weight > thanks > Kathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Kathy and .... I feel like I've lost my appetite sometimes. I am around 120-125.. But I have found that the craving for food has left me. I do remember my first rheumy telling me that r/a can sometimes do that. Maybe it's the meds. Hugs..a ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & amp; more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Dennis...like that diet commercial I see on tv where everyone loses weight but the one who wants to. Hugs..a ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & amp; more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I run into that myself, I don't know why. Sometimes it's from the constant pain. Other times I haven't a clue. I've been dropping weight for a few months, and it makes my wife mad. She can't lose an ounce even though she eats like a bird and tries to be active, and still gains overnight from a glass of water. Dennis in eastexas On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote: > Kathy and .... > > I feel like I've lost my appetite sometimes. I am around 120-125.. But I > have found that the craving for food has left me. I do remember my first > rheumy > telling me that r/a can sometimes do that. Maybe it's the meds. > > Hugs..a > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & amp; more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 One day a long time ago, we took our 3 kids to the lake to teach them to ski. I drove the boat and Betty was 'retriever'. After a full day of her swimming almost non-stop, she gained a few pounds, and it wasn't water! Dennis in eastexas On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:41 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote: > Dennis...like that diet commercial I see on tv where everyone loses > weight > but the one who wants to. > > Hugs..a > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & amp; more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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