Re: O.T./resigned to taking DMARDS

[Guest guest]

I read your response and thought of my mother's mother. She would

gather these plants and sell them to the pharmacist and doctor for

making drugs and treating patients.

She was a very tiny, meek, little country lady, and knew every plant

that grew in her region and what it was used for. She put this

knowledge to work and boosted their meager farming income. However,

she was so stong that she plowed with a mule and only stood 4'10 " .

I wish that I was more like her!

Shirley

> >

> > Hello all,

> > After years of taking " natural " remedies for my RA, i've finally

> > figured out that while they help to calm the disease, they don't

> stop

> > join and organ damage, and I've finally becoming crippled after

> all,

> > like the doctors warned me. Besides, i haven't had a life all

> these

> > years anyway - i've still been terribly fatigued and depressed,

> and

> > not terribly mobile due to bad knees. I've been too sick to work

> and

> > just sat at home lonely and confused most of the time. The

> thought

> > of taking all those toxic drugs always scared me to the point

> where

> > i've allowed my health to deteriorate rather than take them. I

> don't

> > know whether i would be better off now had i taken DMARDS from

the

> > beginning. There's always someone to tell you a horror story

about

> > how DMARDS chew you up inside and kill you, which doesn't help.

> Sure,

> > it doesn't make sense to throw toxic chemicals at a sick person,

> but

> > what choice do we have ? A few ppl have cured themselves of RA

and

> > other Autoimmune disease with natural methods, but they are in

the

> > extreme minority. It's only hitting home now how ruthless this

> > disease is. Besides, i've always taken Celebrex which is an

awful

> > drug - now i have an ulcer which i can't get rid of. God knows

> what

> > other damage it caused in my body. I suppose with taking

Celebrex,

> i

> > was able to delude myself further that i was ok and didn't need

> > DMARDs. That's why i would like to mention to ppl like Brad,

that

> > while you can control the pain with NSAIDS incl ibuprofen, the

> > underlying damage of RA is still going on. It's still eating

away

> at

> > your joints. Now i need knee replacements and probably many

other

> > joints too. I hope it's not too late for me to take

methotrexate.

> > Thanks for listening. All the best,

> > Leonie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Shirley and group;

Oh wow.. How precious Shirley,,, Your great grand mother or was it

great great grandmother was a magnificent women.. I hope I came

close to spelling that right....

If we still did that today there would be a lot less pain and more

get up and go... Somehow Somewhere we lost that wonderful knowledge

your grandmother had...

My greatgrandfather was similar to her and lived to be 107.. I saw

him when he was a 105, he was partially blind and got around

slowly.. He had a little garden and some pigs and a cow.. and a few

chickens. he lived alone... He was thin and tall but maybe he

seemed tall to me cause I was only about 10 years old... My

grandfather would check on him every day till he passed away...

gentle kind hugs

Clora

>

> I read your response and thought of my mother's mother. She would

> gather these plants and sell them to the pharmacist and doctor for

> making drugs and treating patients.

>

> She was a very tiny, meek, little country lady, and knew every

plant

> that grew in her region and what it was used for. She put this

> knowledge to work and boosted their meager farming income.

However,

> she was so stong that she plowed with a mule and only stood 4'10 " .

>

> I wish that I was more like her!

> Shirley

>

[Guest guest]

Clora,

Thanks, she was my grandmother, " Jane Grogan " . Redheaded and

Irish, except one grandmother (her father's mother) was Cherokee and

I think that probably played a big part in what she knew and her

strength. All the hard work took a toll on her though.

She lived to be 77 and was buried on my 4th birthday. I am blessed

that I do remember her. I can still see in my mind, she would pat

the bed and tell Mother to put her babies up there so that she could

see them and then stroke our faces.

Precious memories, I am so glad that they are free. They would

certainly cost more than I have and they bring such warmth and joy.

Shirley

>

> Shirley and group;

>

> Oh wow.. How precious Shirley,,, Your great grand mother or was

it

> great great grandmother was a magnificent women.. I hope I came

> close to spelling that right....

>

> If we still did that today there would be a lot less pain and more

> get up and go... Somehow Somewhere we lost that wonderful

knowledge

> your grandmother had...

>

> My greatgrandfather was similar to her and lived to be 107.. I

saw

> him when he was a 105, he was partially blind and got around

> slowly.. He had a little garden and some pigs and a cow.. and a

few

> chickens. he lived alone... He was thin and tall but maybe he

> seemed tall to me cause I was only about 10 years old... My

> grandfather would check on him every day till he passed away...

>

> gentle kind hugs

> Clora

[Guest guest]

Shirley and group;

Shirley when you said Precious memories it reminded me of a song at

church.. Precious memeries,,, How they Linger,, How they ever flood

my souuuul... thats some of the words have you ever heard it... I

love that song grandma has presious memories in our minds..

She sounds like a wonderfull grandmother... My grandmother was

cherokee off the Indian reservation... It was in West Virginia..

My grandmother had RA also.. I use to gentley rub her swollen

knuckles when I was little...

Grandm and me are the only one's with RA... Out of nine brothers

and sisters and many cousins Me and grandma was the only one with

RA... THat is so weird... I am so glad no one else has it..

I hope my kids don't get it.. if they do they are learning a lot

about RA,,, You have wonderfull memories of your grandmother and

that is so beautifull.. You are so lucky to remember her at such a

young age...

gentle hugs

Clora

> Clora,

> Thanks, she was my grandmother, " Jane Grogan " . Redheaded and

> Irish, except one grandmother (her father's mother) was Cherokee

and

> I think that probably played a big part in what she knew and her

> strength. All the hard work took a toll on her though.

>

> She lived to be 77 and was buried on my 4th birthday. I am blessed

> that I do remember her. I can still see in my mind, she would pat

> the bed and tell Mother to put her babies up there so that she

could

> see them and then stroke our faces.

>

> Precious memories, I am so glad that they are free. They would

> certainly cost more than I have and they bring such warmth and joy.

> Shirley