Re: About Soy..again and thyroid disorder?

[Guest guest]

Some think the reason soy is such a big thing in the US is because of

excellent marketing by huge corporations such as Archer s

Midland. They are one of the worlds largest, if not the largest,

buyers of soy and processors of soy products. Soybeans were

traditionally fed to animals mostly, which brought much lower prices

for it. The reason it is such a good feed for animals is partly

because of its properties of making them put on weight quickly by

slowing their metabolisms. Soy actually is not eaten in such large

amounts in Japan and other soy eating countries as is implied. Also,

in those countries, soy products are often treated in various ways

(fermenting, etc.) which gets rid of much of the thyroid inhibiting

toxins. Coutries where soy is regularly consumed are also countries

where lots of fruits and vegetables and less red meats are consumed.

The association of soy to lower cancer rates may not be an accurate

assesment of why these cultures are healthier.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Some think the reason soy is such a big thing in the US is because of

excellent marketing by huge corporations such as Archer s

Midland. They are one of the worlds largest, if not the largest,

buyers of soy and processors of soy products. Soybeans were

traditionally fed to animals mostly, which brought much lower prices

for it. The reason it is such a good feed for animals is partly

because of its properties of making them put on weight quickly by

slowing their metabolisms. Soy actually is not eaten in such large

amounts in Japan and other soy eating countries as is implied. Also,

in those countries, soy products are often treated in various ways

(fermenting, etc.) which gets rid of much of the thyroid inhibiting

toxins. Coutries where soy is regularly consumed are also countries

where lots of fruits and vegetables and less red meats are consumed.

The association of soy to lower cancer rates may not be an accurate

assesment of why these cultures are healthier.

Tish

[Guest guest]

Some think the reason soy is such a big thing in the US is because of

excellent marketing by huge corporations such as Archer s

Midland. They are one of the worlds largest, if not the largest,

buyers of soy and processors of soy products. Soybeans were

traditionally fed to animals mostly, which brought much lower prices

for it. The reason it is such a good feed for animals is partly

because of its properties of making them put on weight quickly by

slowing their metabolisms. Soy actually is not eaten in such large

amounts in Japan and other soy eating countries as is implied. Also,

in those countries, soy products are often treated in various ways

(fermenting, etc.) which gets rid of much of the thyroid inhibiting

toxins. Coutries where soy is regularly consumed are also countries

where lots of fruits and vegetables and less red meats are consumed.

The association of soy to lower cancer rates may not be an accurate

assesment of why these cultures are healthier.

Tish

[Guest guest]

It seems hard for this to be a " Fad " condition. The reason I say this

is if you take thyroid hormones and don't need them, you end up not

feeling good at all. In fact, eventually you feel terrible. So, it

seems it would die out as a fad pretty quickly. This is the classic

debate between the older school doctors and the sort of broad minded

or new age (or maybe old fashioned) ones. In the past before TSH

tests, thyroid deficiency was determined by taking a careful

assesment of all the patients symptoms. The doctor would measure

basal body temperature and go through a long checlist of symptoms

associated with hypothyroidism. If enough evidence existed, the

doctor would put the patient on a low dose and see if he/she

improved. If the patient didn't, then it was ruled out. There are

many doctors out there who believe that the 4.5 or 5.0 TSH line

between normal and hypothyroid is sacrosanct, and that the TSH test

itself is the only true test. This was not the case for most of the

past century. The TSH test only measures one aspect of thyroid

function and doctors have become hugely dependent on it. The author

of " Living Well With Hypothyroidism " calls it " the tyrany of the TSH

test " . A patient has to choose which philosophy will work best for

them.

Yes, I have been tested and am slightly hypothyroid. I have been

working with my doctor on this. I was on thyroid medication for a

while. Since then, I have got my TSH levels down into the 1.0 to 2.0

range by changing things. I use melatonin which increases the

conversion of T4 to T3 and use progesterone cream which improves

thyroid function. I have switched to Unsaturated Coconut oil, got off

of vegetable oils, improved the nutrition and protein of my diet, and

tried to lower my estrogen, which also helps thyroid function and

energy. There are specific amino acids that are required to produce

thyroid hormones. If your diet is too low in quality protein, you

won't be able to make the hormones. Mine definitely was. All three of

my younger sisters and my mother are on thyroid medication, so it

definitely runs in my family and there is a good chance that

eventually I will probably have to take medication all the time. But,

for the last year it's been normal.

Tish

[Guest guest]

This is exactly what has happened to me Ann. I was always a size 10/12 and now I

have a rear end the size of an elephant. WhenI am undressed I look like a

wrestler.

I have developed a thick neck spungy shoulders and I have gone from wearing a

10A bra to a 12B. I always wanted to be a little bigger in the breast are but

not at the expense of the rest of my body. I went from 8 1/2 stone to now 13

stone.

amaher1@... wrote:

> I have been on Synthroid since I was 5 years old (am 38 now). My Mother and

brother, and Grandmother are all hypothyroid. Obviously, my Fibroids developed

while I was taking Synthroid so I don't think treating my hypothroidism had

anything to do with the fibroids.

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> As far as the weight gain goes, I am 5'6 " and 130 lbs. I've always had a high

metablosim and never gained weight. In the past two years (since I began having

symptoms of fibroids and before I knew I had them), I gained 7-8 lbs. and found

I didn't have energy to do much exercising. I also would gain about 2-3 lbs

during the week before my period. Now that is up to 3-5 lbs. My diet has not

changed at all (I've always eaten pretty healthy) so I believe this is a result

of the fibroids.

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> As far as the treatment of hypothyroidism, I know a a few people on synthroid,

but the only person I know that had surgery was my Grandmother who had a goiter

removed. I think most people can be treated with synthroid.

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> Hope this helps.

> Ann

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