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Lara:

It is true, until the surgeon opens you up they never really know what to

expect. In my case, my doc thought the fibroids had attached to the

fallopian tubes, which would render me infertile should he try to remove them

and damage the tubes. I wasn't prepared for that kind of outcome since I

don't have any children and want to leave that option open. I asked that if

there were fibroids around the fallopian tubes, could he leave them alone so

as not to destroy the tubes. He agreed to do this. After surgery I found

out that neither one of the fallopian tubes were damaged and that the

fibroids came out quickly and easily. It wasn't as " difficult " a sugery as

the doctor had anticipated. I can only recommend that you find a doctor who

is experienced in myomectomies. Ask the doctor how many they have performed.

How many resulted in hysterectomies. How many required transfusions. And

of course many other questions you should ask that will make you feel

comfortable and certain this is the doctor to perform your surgery. Also, if

you're concerned with conceiving in the future, many have used fertility

specialists, so you might want to check one of those dr's out as well.

The important thing is to calm down, take a deep breath and relax. It's good

that your fibroids aren't as symptomatic as others, be thankful for that, and

you have time to decide . . . you don't need to be in a hurry. I took 1 1/2

years to make my final decision, and I'm glad I chose myomectomy. I am 10

weeks post op and everyday I'm feeling better and better about my decision.

Good luck,

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I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8

centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the

size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my

bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of

years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and

after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my

fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or

pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said

that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't

end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility

afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of

miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers

are not much more than guesses.

At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I

didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But

after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided

to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want

to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition

as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the

emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in

a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would

also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen.

It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do

on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you.

It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable

benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy

pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to

remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the

operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two

operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging

around a big growth and feeling bad about it.

-Annika

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Hi Wonderful Women--

I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

doctors.

My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

fulfilling prophecy!

I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

Lara

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I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8

centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the

size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my

bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of

years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and

after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my

fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or

pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said

that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't

end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility

afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of

miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers

are not much more than guesses.

At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I

didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But

after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided

to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want

to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition

as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the

emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in

a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would

also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen.

It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do

on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you.

It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable

benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy

pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to

remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the

operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two

operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging

around a big growth and feeling bad about it.

-Annika

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Hi Wonderful Women--

I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

doctors.

My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

fulfilling prophecy!

I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

Lara

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I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8

centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the

size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my

bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of

years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and

after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my

fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or

pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said

that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't

end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility

afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of

miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers

are not much more than guesses.

At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I

didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But

after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided

to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want

to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition

as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the

emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in

a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would

also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen.

It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do

on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you.

It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable

benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy

pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to

remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the

operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two

operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging

around a big growth and feeling bad about it.

-Annika

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Hi Wonderful Women--

I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

doctors.

My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

fulfilling prophecy!

I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

Lara

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Thanks , it's good to hear someone tell me to calm down, that I

have time. My mother is so eager for me to *take action* (I think

this bothers her more than me) that I sometimes get panicky. I think

that advice about asking the doctor lots of questions is really good

and something I need to keep in mind. The doctor I have been seeing

intimdates me so much that I can't imagine even being able to ask

him those sorts of questions. That alone is a clear indication that

I should find another doctor, I think! Going to get a second opinion

was really helpful in getting me to calm down. And it was empowering

because I realized I had lots of choices! One thing I'd recommend to

anyone is to get a copy of your medical records. It is amazingly

empowering to just have those in my possession.

best-

Lara

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Thanks, Annika.

I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned

having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed.

It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information?

I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have

surgery and need it again in a few years!

What you say about the emotional strain of going through a

miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with

your surgery!

Lara

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Thanks, Annika.

I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned

having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed.

It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information?

I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have

surgery and need it again in a few years!

What you say about the emotional strain of going through a

miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with

your surgery!

Lara

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Thanks, Annika.

I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned

having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed.

It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information?

I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have

surgery and need it again in a few years!

What you say about the emotional strain of going through a

miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with

your surgery!

Lara

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I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been

to a gny to have a general check up in 1999.

I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring

11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked

me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for

various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my

uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a

week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very

uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning

to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions.

Until then cheer up.

Sudha Amarnath

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

> Hi Wonderful Women--

> I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

> It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

> very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

> doctors.

>

> My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

> pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

> very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

> symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

> have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

> now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

> any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

> this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

> to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

> talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

> Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

> like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

> I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

> system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

> the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

> and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

> toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

> and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

> completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

> don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

> fulfilling prophecy!

>

> I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

> advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

> no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

> very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

> cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

> pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

> is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

> different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

> time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

> this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

> surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

> the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

>

> After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

> talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

> said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

> control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

> chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

> cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

> is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

> no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

> different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

> to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

> called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

> certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

>

> This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

> connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

> listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

> me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

> there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

> with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

> intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

> what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

> especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

> experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

> really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

> convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

> idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

>

> That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

> wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

>

> Lara

>

>

>

>

>

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I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been

to a gny to have a general check up in 1999.

I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring

11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked

me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for

various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my

uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a

week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very

uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning

to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions.

Until then cheer up.

Sudha Amarnath

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

> Hi Wonderful Women--

> I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

> It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

> very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

> doctors.

>

> My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

> pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

> very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

> symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

> have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

> now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

> any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

> this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

> to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

> talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

> Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

> like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

> I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

> system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

> the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

> and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

> toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

> and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

> completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

> don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

> fulfilling prophecy!

>

> I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

> advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

> no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

> very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

> cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

> pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

> is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

> different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

> time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

> this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

> surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

> the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

>

> After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

> talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

> said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

> control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

> chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

> cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

> is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

> no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

> different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

> to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

> called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

> certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

>

> This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

> connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

> listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

> me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

> there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

> with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

> intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

> what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

> especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

> experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

> really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

> convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

> idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

>

> That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

> wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

>

> Lara

>

>

>

>

>

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I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been

to a gny to have a general check up in 1999.

I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring

11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked

me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for

various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my

uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a

week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very

uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning

to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions.

Until then cheer up.

Sudha Amarnath

big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

> Hi Wonderful Women--

> I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories.

> It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

> very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms,

> doctors.

>

> My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

> pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

> very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

> symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

> have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

> now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

> any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have

> this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

> to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

> talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

> Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

> like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

> I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

> system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

> the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

> and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

> toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

> and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

> completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

> don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

> fulfilling prophecy!

>

> I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

> advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

> no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was

> very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

> cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

> pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he

> is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

> different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

> time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

> this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

> surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

> the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

>

> After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me

> talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

> said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

> control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet,

> chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli,

> cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

> is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know,

> no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

> different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

> to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

> called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

> certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

>

> This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

> connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

> listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

> me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

> there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

> with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything

> intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

> what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

> especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

> experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

> really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

> convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

> idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me!

>

> That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

> wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

>

> Lara

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group

I've been sitting back here in the wings for a couple of months since

finding this website. And I'm sort of relieved now in reading these

2 postings. I AM NOT ALONE. Phew. I feel like I'm going crazy from

time to time, dwelling on my bulging belly when so much else is going

on in my life and the world.

I'm 35, found out I had a large fibroid 5 years ago, and it's

growing. Now measuring 10x12x13cm, pulling my uterus over to the

left and sitting on my bladder (what an inconvenience when I'm on the

road a lot for my job and am so irritable when returning the car and

trying to get to a toilet before blowing my top). I've been married

3 years now and am wondering where the babies are. Well, my in-laws

are asking! I've had a few charming tests to check my fertility -

things look OK except for now multiple fibroids.

I too am blessed just with large fibroids and no heavy periods.

Thank God. But I do get a lot of pain mid-late cycle (GP thinks it's

endometriosis). My energy levels have declined in the last 12 months

considerably. I feel down a lot, but I can't put any real work/home

strain blames on it - physically, I feel very weighed down. My poor

sister had her myo last year (she has all the typical problems of the

group with her fibroids) and she's been a mess since - I gather her

surgeon was a bit of a butcher. She recommends no surgery to all -

but this bowling ball is dragging me down.

The first gyn I saw 5 years ago said " wait and see ... leave it

alone " . I was happy with this - I wouldn't have known about it if

the check-up hadn't picked up something large and firm that shouldn't

be there. I saw another gyn a month ago after my GP decided that the

bloody thing is growing and the babies aren't coming. He seemed like

a nice enough fellow (nurses at the hospital I work out of recommend

him too) - he said he couldn't guarantee that a myo would improve my

fertility, but to think about it from a quality-of-life point of

view. And he would just take out THE MONSTER (that's the big one).

I'm soooo tempted to have 6 weeks off work, recuperating from a myo,

and maybe getting my energy levels back. If the babies don't come,

I'd just be happy to have my energy back and more bladder control.

Oh, and he said if the monster grows anymore, then I'd need a

longitudinal abdominal incision for the myo vs bikini line cut.

Longer recovery time and less attractive I'm sure.

Thanks for letting me throw my 2 cents worth into the ring. I'm

seeing that gyn again next week to see what our plan may be. Good

luck and good lives to all of you out there.

Clare, Sydney, Australia.

PS Yes, pap smears etc are bloody awful for me too - the hidden

cervix syndrome - I can relate. Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd prefer to be in the dentist chair, a thousand times over.

> I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x

8

> centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the

> size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms,

but my

> bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next

couple of

> years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly

and

> after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my

> fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or

> pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said

> that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it

shouldn't

> end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility

> afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of

> miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these

numbers

> are not much more than guesses.

>

> At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I

> didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me.

But

> after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I

decided

> to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I

want

> to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a

condition

> as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience

the

> emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications

involved in

> a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It

would

> also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen.

>

> It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than

they do

> on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for

you.

> It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-

removable

> benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy

> pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to

> remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after

the

> operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have

two

> operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging

> around a big growth and feeling bad about it.

>

> -Annika

>

> big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

>

> Hi Wonderful Women--

> I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your

stories.

> It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been

> very educational to read your experiences with treatments,

symptoms,

> doctors.

>

> My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month

> pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am

> very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain

> symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to

> have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship

> now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have

> any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I

have

> this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing

> to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have

> talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak.

> Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel

> like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that

> I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive

> system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of

> the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks

> and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public

> toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body

> and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel

> completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I

> don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self-

> fulfilling prophecy!

>

> I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has

> advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well,

> no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him

was

> very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my

> cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a

> pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except

he

> is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3

> different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long

> time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At

> this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of

> surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on

> the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful.

>

> After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let

me

> talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She

> said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could

> control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my

diet,

> chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my

broccoli,

> cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it

> is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't

know,

> no doubt another naturopath would say something completely

> different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations

> to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take

> called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will

> certainly find out if anyone wants to know.

>

> This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also

> connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and

> listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell

> me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said

> there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy

> with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep

everything

> intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know

> what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced,

> especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't

> experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a

> really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all

> convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the

> idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to

me!

>

> That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I

> wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women!

>

> Lara

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Annika,

My poor sister was totally freaked out by her GP and several gyn's,

and launched into a myo fairly quickly. She had suffered with

anaemia for many years without knowing why she felt tired. She

gained weight in recent years but didn't know what was growing inside

her, until her bloody GP intially thought " Oh, my God, what is this?

Why didn't you tell me earlier? Is it ovarian cancer?... " . So she

rapidly went off for an ultrasound and bingo - fibroids. The first 2

gyn's said hysterectomy (she was 35 then) - the third one said he

could try a myo, in an attempt to preserve her fertility in case she

wanted kids later in life. The surgery lasted nearly 3 hours, she

had SEVEN units of blood transfused during and after surgery, and

now? She's been fairly traumatised, emotionally and physically,

hates surgeons and surgery, hates her adhesions, and I expect that

she feels just plain worse than when the whole drama began 12 months

ago. She's very angry. She's learned a lot through the whole

drama, but what a way to learn. If only she had seen this website

and taken her time before jumping in the deepend. Oh, hindsight.

The lesson. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, slow down,

evaluate their situation with patient and sensible health

professionals, do some reading, and know the risks of all choices of

treatment and decide - is it worth the risk?????

My sister and I are very different, both emotionally and physically.

I think I'll come out OK through whatever - and if people cannot deal

well with their issues and sleep well at night, get counselling or

lots of support from loved ones.

And stay away from doctors that have no trouble in terrifying you

with suspicions of bad pathology or need for urgent surgery. I can't

work out why some people writing on this website have doctors finding

2cm fibroids and saying they need a myo or hyster pronto. That

scares me.

> I am concerned about what you said about your sister " being a mess "

> after her myo last year. What happened?

>

> -Annika

>

> Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

>

> Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group

>

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Hi Annika,

My poor sister was totally freaked out by her GP and several gyn's,

and launched into a myo fairly quickly. She had suffered with

anaemia for many years without knowing why she felt tired. She

gained weight in recent years but didn't know what was growing inside

her, until her bloody GP intially thought " Oh, my God, what is this?

Why didn't you tell me earlier? Is it ovarian cancer?... " . So she

rapidly went off for an ultrasound and bingo - fibroids. The first 2

gyn's said hysterectomy (she was 35 then) - the third one said he

could try a myo, in an attempt to preserve her fertility in case she

wanted kids later in life. The surgery lasted nearly 3 hours, she

had SEVEN units of blood transfused during and after surgery, and

now? She's been fairly traumatised, emotionally and physically,

hates surgeons and surgery, hates her adhesions, and I expect that

she feels just plain worse than when the whole drama began 12 months

ago. She's very angry. She's learned a lot through the whole

drama, but what a way to learn. If only she had seen this website

and taken her time before jumping in the deepend. Oh, hindsight.

The lesson. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, slow down,

evaluate their situation with patient and sensible health

professionals, do some reading, and know the risks of all choices of

treatment and decide - is it worth the risk?????

My sister and I are very different, both emotionally and physically.

I think I'll come out OK through whatever - and if people cannot deal

well with their issues and sleep well at night, get counselling or

lots of support from loved ones.

And stay away from doctors that have no trouble in terrifying you

with suspicions of bad pathology or need for urgent surgery. I can't

work out why some people writing on this website have doctors finding

2cm fibroids and saying they need a myo or hyster pronto. That

scares me.

> I am concerned about what you said about your sister " being a mess "

> after her myo last year. What happened?

>

> -Annika

>

> Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

>

> Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group

>

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Annika--

No, don't worry, it wasn't you that made me worry about the fibroids

growing back. Both of the doctors I've seen have said that (and

there's a thread on this board right now about a woman who went

through that). There is somewhere between a 10% and a 20% chance

that within 2-4 years the fibroids will grow back to the point where

they will need surgery again. The chance that I would need more than

one surgery is probably the number one reason that keeps me from

doing it. But if I wanted to get pregnant right now, that would be

different. My stepmother had a huge fibroid about 20 years ago, was

in her 30's, didn't have children and wanted them. She had to go to

SEVEN doctors before she could find one who would do anything but a

hysterectomy. And no one suggested doing nothing, they all wanted to

cut everything out. She did have a successful myo, She went on to

have 2 wonderful children, and the fibroid never grew again. So that

is a nice success story. I can't believe even now 20 years later

woman are still getting the same awful advice! I wouldn't have

believed it until I started reading it here. What the heck is wrong

with these doctors that they just want to go cutting away the first

chance they get? I mean, even I was told " hysterectomy " when I first

was diagnosed. As in, " well, if you aren't planning on having

children, you could just have a hysterectomy. " As though it was the

easiest thing in the world, the most natural thing in the world. I

started crying right then and there. That was a woman doctor, too.

Did medical school take out all her empathy for other women's

feelings?

> Dear Lara,

>

> I didn't mean to worry you when I mentioned fibroids growing back.

It

> was just something that I read that makes me feel pressured to try

to

> get pregnant soon. It could be my own paranoia. A doctor would be

able

> to give better advice that I can.

>

>

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> " clandy.rm " wrote:

Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group

I've been sitting back here in the wings for a couple of months since finding

this website. And I'm sort of relieved now in reading these 2 postings. I AM

NOT ALONE. Phew. I feel like I'm going crazy from time to time, dwelling on my

bulging belly when so much else is going

on in my life and the world.

I'm 35, found out I had a large fibroid 5 years ago, and it's growing. Now

measuring 10x12x13cm, pulling my uterus over to the left and sitting on my

bladder (what an inconvenience when I'm on the road a lot for my job and am so

irritable when returning the car and trying to get to a toilet before blowing my

top). I've been married

3 years now and am wondering where the babies are. Well, my in-laws are asking!

I've had a few charming tests to check my fertility - things look OK except for

now multiple fibroids.

I too am blessed just with large fibroids and no heavy periods.

Thank God. But I do get a lot of pain mid-late cycle (GP thinks it's

endometriosis). My energy levels have declined in the last 12 months

considerably. I feel down a lot, but I can't put any real work/home strain

blames on it - physically, I feel very weighed down. My poor

sister had her myo last year (she has all the typicalproblems of the group with

her fibroids) and she's been a mess since - I gather her surgeon was a bit of a

butcher. She recommends no surgery to all - but this bowling ball is dragging

me down.

The first gyn I saw 5 years ago said " wait and see ... leave it alone " . I was

happy with this - I wouldn't have known about it if the check-up hadn't picked

up something large and firm that shouldn't be there. I saw another gyn a month

ago after my GP decided that the

bloody thing is growing and the babies aren't coming. He seemed like a nice

enough fellow (nurses at the hospital I work out of recommend him too) - he said

he couldn't guarantee that a myo would improve my fertility, but to think about

it from a quality-of-life point of

view. And he would just take out THE MONSTER (that's the big one).

I'm soooo tempted to have 6 weeks off work, recuperating from a myo, and maybe

getting my energy levels back. If the babies don't come, I'd just be happy to

have my energy back and more bladder control.

Oh, and he said if the monster grows anymore, then I'd need a longitudinal

abdominal incision for the myo vs bikini line cut. Longer recovery time and

less attractive I'm sure.

Thanks for letting me throw my 2 cents worth into the ring. I'm seeing that gyn

again next week to see what our plan may be. Good luck and good lives to all of

you out there.

Clare, Sydney, Australia.<

Hi Clare,

I was a bit excited to see you are from Sydney - I've been a member of the group

here for about 2 years now and live 1/12 hrs south of Sydney.. I've had contact

with some lovely and helpful ladies from Melbourne, some who have dealt with the

Fibroid Clinic there with good results, but I have been hoping someone would

post about recommendations in the Sydney area.

I am still in wait and watch mode (47) and believe I am close to menopause -

with three intramural fibroids. Symptoms have lessened for me with exercise,

iron supplementation as I was anaemic and generally I have missed a few priods

over the past year..... but I am still aware that anything might happen so

continue to listen and learn until my next doc's appt in a couple of months. If

I need to go back to a gyno I would be looking for recommendations in Sydney -

your sister's doesn't sound too good! I'm really sorry she suffered. Can you

recommend any good gynos, or a group of interventional radiologists? I would

trust my GP to get me started in the right direction but it is always good to

hear of other's local experiences.

If you like you can email me directly.

Thanks and good luck to you too.

Mandy

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Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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> I do not think this 10 to 20 % regrowth after 2-4 years applies

across the board-in fact it can't

> apply across the board.This lady was 46 and so there still is, or

can be,as way to go before

> menopause.But I think the story might be different in someone in

their 50's for example.Where did you

> find these numbers?

> Bonnie

Bonnie;

Well, yeah, you're right, I'm sure nothing applies across the board

with fibroids, it seems like everyone has a different experience and

nobody really understands anything for sure! But both of the gyn's I

saw gave me this same information. I'm 34. Yeah, I would imagine if

the woman were close to menopause, the story would be different.

Lara

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Dear ,

Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr

Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been

unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now?

How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was

you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not

refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by

ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read

their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to

ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it

makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to

cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after

4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed!

By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be

backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have

started the trend....

All the best and good luck,

Mandy

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore "

wrote:

Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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Dear ,

Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr

Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been

unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now?

How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was

you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not

refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by

ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read

their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to

ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it

makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to

cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after

4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed!

By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be

backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have

started the trend....

All the best and good luck,

Mandy

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore "

wrote:

Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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Dear ,

Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr

Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been

unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now?

How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was

you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not

refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by

ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read

their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to

ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it

makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to

cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after

4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed!

By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be

backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have

started the trend....

All the best and good luck,

Mandy

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore "

wrote:

Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action?

Dear Clare and Mandy,

Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury

in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him

to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to

me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because

they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate

to his patients, as well as being excellent technically.

I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have

asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this

would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the

outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience.

This is my story if you want the details:

I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed

a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in

diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would

probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner

rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a

likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.)

The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to

near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went

backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there.

To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be

removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a

family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding

(adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be

removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine

artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury

knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My

recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of

hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo

was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3

days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots.

Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible

for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a

child.

My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is

15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I

will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and

really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option

left.

I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for

myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a

hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance

cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might

understand, but fibroids are not rare.

Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone.

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Mandy,

Sorry. In trying to not make my post too long, I left out that I now

live in Germany due to my husbands job. So my current gynecologist

is a local German doctor and my UAE will be performed in a German

hospital by a local IR.

So I cannot help you with UAE in Sdyney. Dr. Bradbury never

mentioned it to me although the last time I saw him was in 1998 and

it may not have been available then. I can only suggest you do as I

have done over here - talk to doctors, surf the web, contact local

hospitals and radiology departments and ask them do they have IRs

performing UAE, contact local professional organisations (is there an

Aussie Interventional Radiologists Assoc??), etc. Dr. Kirsch also

very kindly answered an e-mail I sent him asking for names of IRs in

Germany that performed UAE. You could also check conference papers to

see if any Aussie IRs attended. I generally found the gynecologists

to be poorly informed about UAE and IRs to be a better source of

information.

By the end of all of this I had an A4 ring binder full of data and

would bring it with me when seeing my gyne and the IR.

You ask what kind of fibroids I have. Without lapsing into rude

language, I have lots of small fibroids that make my uterus large and

bulky. Also have some 3 - 5 cm fibroids that can be identified on

the ultrasound.

If you are interested in UAE I also recommend the yahoo 'embo' chat

group as a great source of info, if you are not already a member

there. I cannot remember how bad your symptoms are though. It's

important to check out all the options.

Hope this helps, and good luck with the detective work,

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Mandy,

Sorry. In trying to not make my post too long, I left out that I now

live in Germany due to my husbands job. So my current gynecologist

is a local German doctor and my UAE will be performed in a German

hospital by a local IR.

So I cannot help you with UAE in Sdyney. Dr. Bradbury never

mentioned it to me although the last time I saw him was in 1998 and

it may not have been available then. I can only suggest you do as I

have done over here - talk to doctors, surf the web, contact local

hospitals and radiology departments and ask them do they have IRs

performing UAE, contact local professional organisations (is there an

Aussie Interventional Radiologists Assoc??), etc. Dr. Kirsch also

very kindly answered an e-mail I sent him asking for names of IRs in

Germany that performed UAE. You could also check conference papers to

see if any Aussie IRs attended. I generally found the gynecologists

to be poorly informed about UAE and IRs to be a better source of

information.

By the end of all of this I had an A4 ring binder full of data and

would bring it with me when seeing my gyne and the IR.

You ask what kind of fibroids I have. Without lapsing into rude

language, I have lots of small fibroids that make my uterus large and

bulky. Also have some 3 - 5 cm fibroids that can be identified on

the ultrasound.

If you are interested in UAE I also recommend the yahoo 'embo' chat

group as a great source of info, if you are not already a member

there. I cannot remember how bad your symptoms are though. It's

important to check out all the options.

Hope this helps, and good luck with the detective work,

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