Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Lara: It is true, until the surgeon opens you up they never really know what to expect. In my case, my doc thought the fibroids had attached to the fallopian tubes, which would render me infertile should he try to remove them and damage the tubes. I wasn't prepared for that kind of outcome since I don't have any children and want to leave that option open. I asked that if there were fibroids around the fallopian tubes, could he leave them alone so as not to destroy the tubes. He agreed to do this. After surgery I found out that neither one of the fallopian tubes were damaged and that the fibroids came out quickly and easily. It wasn't as " difficult " a sugery as the doctor had anticipated. I can only recommend that you find a doctor who is experienced in myomectomies. Ask the doctor how many they have performed. How many resulted in hysterectomies. How many required transfusions. And of course many other questions you should ask that will make you feel comfortable and certain this is the doctor to perform your surgery. Also, if you're concerned with conceiving in the future, many have used fertility specialists, so you might want to check one of those dr's out as well. The important thing is to calm down, take a deep breath and relax. It's good that your fibroids aren't as symptomatic as others, be thankful for that, and you have time to decide . . . you don't need to be in a hurry. I took 1 1/2 years to make my final decision, and I'm glad I chose myomectomy. I am 10 weeks post op and everyday I'm feeling better and better about my decision. Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8 centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers are not much more than guesses. At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen. It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you. It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging around a big growth and feeling bad about it. -Annika big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Hi Wonderful Women-- I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, doctors. My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- fulfilling prophecy! I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, no doubt another naturopath would say something completely different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will certainly find out if anyone wants to know. This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8 centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers are not much more than guesses. At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen. It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you. It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging around a big growth and feeling bad about it. -Annika big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Hi Wonderful Women-- I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, doctors. My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- fulfilling prophecy! I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, no doubt another naturopath would say something completely different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will certainly find out if anyone wants to know. This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8 centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers are not much more than guesses. At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen. It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you. It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily-removable benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging around a big growth and feeling bad about it. -Annika big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Hi Wonderful Women-- I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, doctors. My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- fulfilling prophecy! I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, no doubt another naturopath would say something completely different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will certainly find out if anyone wants to know. This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Thanks , it's good to hear someone tell me to calm down, that I have time. My mother is so eager for me to *take action* (I think this bothers her more than me) that I sometimes get panicky. I think that advice about asking the doctor lots of questions is really good and something I need to keep in mind. The doctor I have been seeing intimdates me so much that I can't imagine even being able to ask him those sorts of questions. That alone is a clear indication that I should find another doctor, I think! Going to get a second opinion was really helpful in getting me to calm down. And it was empowering because I realized I had lots of choices! One thing I'd recommend to anyone is to get a copy of your medical records. It is amazingly empowering to just have those in my possession. best- Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Thanks, Annika. I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed. It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information? I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have surgery and need it again in a few years! What you say about the emotional strain of going through a miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with your surgery! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Thanks, Annika. I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed. It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information? I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have surgery and need it again in a few years! What you say about the emotional strain of going through a miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with your surgery! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 Thanks, Annika. I'm wondering about your MRI. Neither of the gyns I saw mentioned having one. I had an ultrasound way back when I was first diagnosed. It sounds like the MRI gives a lot more information? I am worried about the growing-back problem. I would hate to have surgery and need it again in a few years! What you say about the emotional strain of going through a miscarriage makes a lot of sense. I wish you the best of luck with your surgery! Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been to a gny to have a general check up in 1999. I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring 11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions. Until then cheer up. Sudha Amarnath big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > Hi Wonderful Women-- > I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. > It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been > very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, > doctors. > > My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month > pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am > very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain > symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to > have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship > now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have > any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have > this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing > to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have > talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. > Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel > like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that > I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive > system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of > the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks > and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public > toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body > and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel > completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I > don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- > fulfilling prophecy! > > I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has > advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, > no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was > very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my > cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a > pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he > is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 > different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long > time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At > this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of > surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on > the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. > > After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me > talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She > said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could > control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, > chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, > cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it > is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, > no doubt another naturopath would say something completely > different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations > to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take > called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will > certainly find out if anyone wants to know. > > This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also > connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and > listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell > me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said > there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy > with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything > intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know > what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, > especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't > experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a > really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all > convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the > idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! > > That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I > wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! > > Lara > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been to a gny to have a general check up in 1999. I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring 11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions. Until then cheer up. Sudha Amarnath big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > Hi Wonderful Women-- > I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. > It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been > very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, > doctors. > > My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month > pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am > very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain > symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to > have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship > now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have > any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have > this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing > to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have > talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. > Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel > like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that > I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive > system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of > the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks > and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public > toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body > and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel > completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I > don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- > fulfilling prophecy! > > I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has > advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, > no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was > very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my > cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a > pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he > is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 > different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long > time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At > this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of > surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on > the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. > > After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me > talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She > said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could > control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, > chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, > cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it > is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, > no doubt another naturopath would say something completely > different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations > to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take > called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will > certainly find out if anyone wants to know. > > This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also > connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and > listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell > me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said > there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy > with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything > intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know > what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, > especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't > experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a > really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all > convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the > idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! > > That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I > wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! > > Lara > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2002 Report Share Posted February 19, 2002 I am 40 years old , I have had no symptoms of fibroids etc till I had been to a gny to have a general check up in 1999. I was shocked when the Ultrasonography showed my uterus enlarged measuring 11 X 4 X 3.8 cms and my fibroids measuring 4.3 X 3.5 cms . She had asked me to undergo a surgery immediately. I was not ready for the operation for various reasons, the most important one was the thought of removing my uterus. But now after 3 years , My stomach is big,I feel very heavy esp. a week before my periods and am not able to eat since I feel very uncomfortable after a meal. My symptoms are similar to yours. I am planning to visit an Ayurvedic Dr on Sat. and will mail you about her suggestions. Until then cheer up. Sudha Amarnath big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > Hi Wonderful Women-- > I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. > It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been > very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, > doctors. > > My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month > pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am > very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain > symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to > have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship > now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have > any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have > this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing > to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have > talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. > Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel > like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that > I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive > system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of > the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks > and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public > toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body > and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel > completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I > don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- > fulfilling prophecy! > > I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has > advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, > no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was > very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my > cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a > pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he > is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 > different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long > time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At > this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of > surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on > the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. > > After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me > talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She > said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could > control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, > chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, > cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it > is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, > no doubt another naturopath would say something completely > different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations > to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take > called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will > certainly find out if anyone wants to know. > > This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also > connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and > listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell > me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said > there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy > with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything > intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know > what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, > especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't > experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a > really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all > convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the > idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! > > That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I > wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! > > Lara > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group I've been sitting back here in the wings for a couple of months since finding this website. And I'm sort of relieved now in reading these 2 postings. I AM NOT ALONE. Phew. I feel like I'm going crazy from time to time, dwelling on my bulging belly when so much else is going on in my life and the world. I'm 35, found out I had a large fibroid 5 years ago, and it's growing. Now measuring 10x12x13cm, pulling my uterus over to the left and sitting on my bladder (what an inconvenience when I'm on the road a lot for my job and am so irritable when returning the car and trying to get to a toilet before blowing my top). I've been married 3 years now and am wondering where the babies are. Well, my in-laws are asking! I've had a few charming tests to check my fertility - things look OK except for now multiple fibroids. I too am blessed just with large fibroids and no heavy periods. Thank God. But I do get a lot of pain mid-late cycle (GP thinks it's endometriosis). My energy levels have declined in the last 12 months considerably. I feel down a lot, but I can't put any real work/home strain blames on it - physically, I feel very weighed down. My poor sister had her myo last year (she has all the typical problems of the group with her fibroids) and she's been a mess since - I gather her surgeon was a bit of a butcher. She recommends no surgery to all - but this bowling ball is dragging me down. The first gyn I saw 5 years ago said " wait and see ... leave it alone " . I was happy with this - I wouldn't have known about it if the check-up hadn't picked up something large and firm that shouldn't be there. I saw another gyn a month ago after my GP decided that the bloody thing is growing and the babies aren't coming. He seemed like a nice enough fellow (nurses at the hospital I work out of recommend him too) - he said he couldn't guarantee that a myo would improve my fertility, but to think about it from a quality-of-life point of view. And he would just take out THE MONSTER (that's the big one). I'm soooo tempted to have 6 weeks off work, recuperating from a myo, and maybe getting my energy levels back. If the babies don't come, I'd just be happy to have my energy back and more bladder control. Oh, and he said if the monster grows anymore, then I'd need a longitudinal abdominal incision for the myo vs bikini line cut. Longer recovery time and less attractive I'm sure. Thanks for letting me throw my 2 cents worth into the ring. I'm seeing that gyn again next week to see what our plan may be. Good luck and good lives to all of you out there. Clare, Sydney, Australia. PS Yes, pap smears etc are bloody awful for me too - the hidden cervix syndrome - I can relate. Yuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd prefer to be in the dentist chair, a thousand times over. > I'm 35 and I have a three fibroids, the biggest being about 7 x 7 x 8 > centimeters (the size of a small grapefruit). My uterus is about the > size of a three month pregnancy. I don't have too many symptoms, but my > bleeding is pretty heavy. I want to have children in the next couple of > years. My gynecologist did an MRI to see my fibroids more clearly and > after careful consideration, decided it would be better to have my > fibroids removed because they increase the chance of miscarriage or > pre-term delivery. They can even interfere with conception. She said > that the myomectomy is a very straight forward surgery and it shouldn't > end up doing any harm, though there is a small chance of infertility > afterwards. She put it at about 10%. But since she put the risk of > miscarriage at about 50%, this seemed better. Of course these numbers > are not much more than guesses. > > At first I was reluctant to do the operation because, as you said, I > didn't want anyone messing with my uterus. It seemed risky to me. But > after much research on the web, and having talked to friends, I decided > to do it. I figure I don't have that many fertile years left, and I want > to make the most of them. I want my uterus to be in as good a condition > as possible when I do get pregnant. I also don't want to experience the > emotional pain of having a miscarriage or the complications involved in > a pre-term delivery, or prolonged bed rest during pregnancy. It would > also be nice to not have such heavy bleeding and a smaller abdomen. > > It seems that your fibroids impinge on your life much more than they do > on mine. So I would say find a good doctor who can remove them for you. > It's not worth feeling bad about yourself over a few easily- removable > benign tumors, and it would improve your chances of having a healthy > pregnancy if you do decide to have a baby. However, it's good to > remember that they can grow back, so I wouldn't wait too long after the > operation before trying to get pregnant. You wouldn't want to have two > operations. But then agian, that still might be better than lugging > around a big growth and feeling bad about it. > > -Annika > > big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > > Hi Wonderful Women-- > I'm new here and want to thank you so much for sharing your stories. > It's really empowering just to know I'm not alone. And it has been > very educational to read your experiences with treatments, symptoms, > doctors. > > My story is I'm 34 and have a big uterus due to fibroids (5 month > pregnancy size). I know from reading a lot of your posts that I am > very fortunate because I do not have the bleeding and the pain > symptoms. My situation is somehow less easy to define. I want to > have children someday, maybe. Although I'm not in a relationship > now, so it seems like a far-off kind of goal. I do not want to have > any unnecessary surgery, I feel very strongly about that. But I have > this big alien thing growing in me! Sometimes it is very disturbing > to think about. It also intrudes in my life. As other women have > talked about, it is big and bouncy and makes me feel like a freak. > Right before I get my period it is very intrusive and makes me feel > like I am gasping for breath and that I am wearing tight pants that > I can't take off. I'm also certain it is affecting my digestive > system, my energy level, and definately makes me have to pee all of > the time. I exercise less now because I don't go on the long walks > and bike rides that I used to, unless I know I'll pass a public > toilet. I've always been overweight and uncomfortable with my body > and having this freaky thing has for a long time made me feel > completely unsexual. Not that I've lost my sex drive, just that I > don't feel sexy enough to attract anyone. And that is a self- > fulfilling prophecy! > > I have been seeing one gyn doctor since I was diagnosed and he has > advised not doing anything, since I don't have any symptoms (well, > no symptoms that he cares about!) The most recent visit with him was > very traumatic. I had to have a pap smear and he couldn't find my > cervix because it is all pushed in a weird place. I had never had a > pap smear done by a man before and wouldn't have this time except he > is the doctor who was recommended to me. He had to insert like 3 > different speculums and had to root around " down there " for a long > time. I really felt violated. I came home and cried my eyes out. At > this same visit I had wanted to discuss further the options of > surgery but he was in such a hurry, he practically had his hand on > the doorknob the whole time! It was really awful. > > After that, I went to see a naturopath. She was very nice and let me > talk for an hour! That alone was worth the cost of the visit! She > said natural medicine could not make my fibroids go away, but could > control their growth. She suggested very do-able changes to my diet, > chiefly to give up caffeine (kind of hard!) and to cook my broccoli, > cauliflower and cabbage. Interestingly, she told me soy is okay, it > is the " good kind of estrogen " or something like that. I don't know, > no doubt another naturopath would say something completely > different. But I have to at least try this woman's recommendations > to see where they lead. She also gave me a tinture to take > called " cyst formula. " I don't know what's in it but I will > certainly find out if anyone wants to know. > > This naturopath also sent me to another gyn md. A woman who is also > connected to Planned Parenthood and was just really nice and > listened to me which made such a difference. She did basically tell > me just what the other md had. But she made it clearer. She said > there is no way of knowing if I would be able to carry a pregnancy > with these fibroids until I try, but it is better to keep everything > intact if at all possible. With a myomectomy, you just don't know > what's going to happen until you get in there. I am not convinced, > especially after reading the posts here. Maybe she just isn't > experienced enough with myomectomys? I feel like I could find a > really good doctor who could do the surgery. But I am not at all > convinced that that is what is best for me. I really don't like the > idea of anyone doing anything to my uterus. It's very precious to me! > > That was a long post! Does anyone want to talk about anything I > wrote above? Thanks for all being such wonderful, brave women! > > Lara > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hi Annika, My poor sister was totally freaked out by her GP and several gyn's, and launched into a myo fairly quickly. She had suffered with anaemia for many years without knowing why she felt tired. She gained weight in recent years but didn't know what was growing inside her, until her bloody GP intially thought " Oh, my God, what is this? Why didn't you tell me earlier? Is it ovarian cancer?... " . So she rapidly went off for an ultrasound and bingo - fibroids. The first 2 gyn's said hysterectomy (she was 35 then) - the third one said he could try a myo, in an attempt to preserve her fertility in case she wanted kids later in life. The surgery lasted nearly 3 hours, she had SEVEN units of blood transfused during and after surgery, and now? She's been fairly traumatised, emotionally and physically, hates surgeons and surgery, hates her adhesions, and I expect that she feels just plain worse than when the whole drama began 12 months ago. She's very angry. She's learned a lot through the whole drama, but what a way to learn. If only she had seen this website and taken her time before jumping in the deepend. Oh, hindsight. The lesson. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, slow down, evaluate their situation with patient and sensible health professionals, do some reading, and know the risks of all choices of treatment and decide - is it worth the risk????? My sister and I are very different, both emotionally and physically. I think I'll come out OK through whatever - and if people cannot deal well with their issues and sleep well at night, get counselling or lots of support from loved ones. And stay away from doctors that have no trouble in terrifying you with suspicions of bad pathology or need for urgent surgery. I can't work out why some people writing on this website have doctors finding 2cm fibroids and saying they need a myo or hyster pronto. That scares me. > I am concerned about what you said about your sister " being a mess " > after her myo last year. What happened? > > -Annika > > Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > > Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hi Annika, My poor sister was totally freaked out by her GP and several gyn's, and launched into a myo fairly quickly. She had suffered with anaemia for many years without knowing why she felt tired. She gained weight in recent years but didn't know what was growing inside her, until her bloody GP intially thought " Oh, my God, what is this? Why didn't you tell me earlier? Is it ovarian cancer?... " . So she rapidly went off for an ultrasound and bingo - fibroids. The first 2 gyn's said hysterectomy (she was 35 then) - the third one said he could try a myo, in an attempt to preserve her fertility in case she wanted kids later in life. The surgery lasted nearly 3 hours, she had SEVEN units of blood transfused during and after surgery, and now? She's been fairly traumatised, emotionally and physically, hates surgeons and surgery, hates her adhesions, and I expect that she feels just plain worse than when the whole drama began 12 months ago. She's very angry. She's learned a lot through the whole drama, but what a way to learn. If only she had seen this website and taken her time before jumping in the deepend. Oh, hindsight. The lesson. Everyone needs to take a deep breath, slow down, evaluate their situation with patient and sensible health professionals, do some reading, and know the risks of all choices of treatment and decide - is it worth the risk????? My sister and I are very different, both emotionally and physically. I think I'll come out OK through whatever - and if people cannot deal well with their issues and sleep well at night, get counselling or lots of support from loved ones. And stay away from doctors that have no trouble in terrifying you with suspicions of bad pathology or need for urgent surgery. I can't work out why some people writing on this website have doctors finding 2cm fibroids and saying they need a myo or hyster pronto. That scares me. > I am concerned about what you said about your sister " being a mess " > after her myo last year. What happened? > > -Annika > > Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? > > Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Annika-- No, don't worry, it wasn't you that made me worry about the fibroids growing back. Both of the doctors I've seen have said that (and there's a thread on this board right now about a woman who went through that). There is somewhere between a 10% and a 20% chance that within 2-4 years the fibroids will grow back to the point where they will need surgery again. The chance that I would need more than one surgery is probably the number one reason that keeps me from doing it. But if I wanted to get pregnant right now, that would be different. My stepmother had a huge fibroid about 20 years ago, was in her 30's, didn't have children and wanted them. She had to go to SEVEN doctors before she could find one who would do anything but a hysterectomy. And no one suggested doing nothing, they all wanted to cut everything out. She did have a successful myo, She went on to have 2 wonderful children, and the fibroid never grew again. So that is a nice success story. I can't believe even now 20 years later woman are still getting the same awful advice! I wouldn't have believed it until I started reading it here. What the heck is wrong with these doctors that they just want to go cutting away the first chance they get? I mean, even I was told " hysterectomy " when I first was diagnosed. As in, " well, if you aren't planning on having children, you could just have a hysterectomy. " As though it was the easiest thing in the world, the most natural thing in the world. I started crying right then and there. That was a woman doctor, too. Did medical school take out all her empathy for other women's feelings? > Dear Lara, > > I didn't mean to worry you when I mentioned fibroids growing back. It > was just something that I read that makes me feel pressured to try to > get pregnant soon. It could be my own paranoia. A doctor would be able > to give better advice that I can. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 > " clandy.rm " wrote: Dear Lara and Annika and This Busy Group I've been sitting back here in the wings for a couple of months since finding this website. And I'm sort of relieved now in reading these 2 postings. I AM NOT ALONE. Phew. I feel like I'm going crazy from time to time, dwelling on my bulging belly when so much else is going on in my life and the world. I'm 35, found out I had a large fibroid 5 years ago, and it's growing. Now measuring 10x12x13cm, pulling my uterus over to the left and sitting on my bladder (what an inconvenience when I'm on the road a lot for my job and am so irritable when returning the car and trying to get to a toilet before blowing my top). I've been married 3 years now and am wondering where the babies are. Well, my in-laws are asking! I've had a few charming tests to check my fertility - things look OK except for now multiple fibroids. I too am blessed just with large fibroids and no heavy periods. Thank God. But I do get a lot of pain mid-late cycle (GP thinks it's endometriosis). My energy levels have declined in the last 12 months considerably. I feel down a lot, but I can't put any real work/home strain blames on it - physically, I feel very weighed down. My poor sister had her myo last year (she has all the typicalproblems of the group with her fibroids) and she's been a mess since - I gather her surgeon was a bit of a butcher. She recommends no surgery to all - but this bowling ball is dragging me down. The first gyn I saw 5 years ago said " wait and see ... leave it alone " . I was happy with this - I wouldn't have known about it if the check-up hadn't picked up something large and firm that shouldn't be there. I saw another gyn a month ago after my GP decided that the bloody thing is growing and the babies aren't coming. He seemed like a nice enough fellow (nurses at the hospital I work out of recommend him too) - he said he couldn't guarantee that a myo would improve my fertility, but to think about it from a quality-of-life point of view. And he would just take out THE MONSTER (that's the big one). I'm soooo tempted to have 6 weeks off work, recuperating from a myo, and maybe getting my energy levels back. If the babies don't come, I'd just be happy to have my energy back and more bladder control. Oh, and he said if the monster grows anymore, then I'd need a longitudinal abdominal incision for the myo vs bikini line cut. Longer recovery time and less attractive I'm sure. Thanks for letting me throw my 2 cents worth into the ring. I'm seeing that gyn again next week to see what our plan may be. Good luck and good lives to all of you out there. Clare, Sydney, Australia.< Hi Clare, I was a bit excited to see you are from Sydney - I've been a member of the group here for about 2 years now and live 1/12 hrs south of Sydney.. I've had contact with some lovely and helpful ladies from Melbourne, some who have dealt with the Fibroid Clinic there with good results, but I have been hoping someone would post about recommendations in the Sydney area. I am still in wait and watch mode (47) and believe I am close to menopause - with three intramural fibroids. Symptoms have lessened for me with exercise, iron supplementation as I was anaemic and generally I have missed a few priods over the past year..... but I am still aware that anything might happen so continue to listen and learn until my next doc's appt in a couple of months. If I need to go back to a gyno I would be looking for recommendations in Sydney - your sister's doesn't sound too good! I'm really sorry she suffered. Can you recommend any good gynos, or a group of interventional radiologists? I would trust my GP to get me started in the right direction but it is always good to hear of other's local experiences. If you like you can email me directly. Thanks and good luck to you too. Mandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 > I do not think this 10 to 20 % regrowth after 2-4 years applies across the board-in fact it can't > apply across the board.This lady was 46 and so there still is, or can be,as way to go before > menopause.But I think the story might be different in someone in their 50's for example.Where did you > find these numbers? > Bonnie Bonnie; Well, yeah, you're right, I'm sure nothing applies across the board with fibroids, it seems like everyone has a different experience and nobody really understands anything for sure! But both of the gyn's I saw gave me this same information. I'm 34. Yeah, I would imagine if the woman were close to menopause, the story would be different. Lara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Dear , Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now? How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after 4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed! By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have started the trend.... All the best and good luck, Mandy On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore " wrote: Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Dear , Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now? How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after 4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed! By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have started the trend.... All the best and good luck, Mandy On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore " wrote: Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Dear , Sorry for late reply - busy weekend! Thanks for sharing your story and Dr Bradbury with us, I will ask my GP about him. I am so sorry that you have been unable to conceive. What sort of fibroids did you have and do you have now? How did you go about finding an IR in Sydney? I'm assuming that Dr Bradbury was you gyne (or was he your IR?) and if he did not know anything about UAE, did not refer you anywhere. The Fibroid Clinic in Melbourne has been recommended by ladies on this site quite a few times and I've researched their website and read their book, but nothing is mentioned about anything similar in Sydney. Sorry to ask all these questions - I know you have done the hard yards yourself and it makes me feel lazy. I've looked into our private insurance and they seem to cover myo's and UAE but I have yet to decide on anything. Still watching after 4 years... Would be grateful to know how you proceed! By the way I have a few nieces and nephews from Ireland who have and will be backpacking it out here -and one who just can't stay away!! You must have started the trend.... All the best and good luck, Mandy On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:34:25 -0000 " lullymore " wrote: Subject: Re: big fibroids, no symptoms, no action? Dear Clare and Mandy, Just wanted to let you know that I had a myo with Dr. Bradbury in St. s in Sydney in 1998 and can recommend him. I found him to be very sympathetic and considerate. He had been recommended to me by some nurse friends who worked in St. s, mainly because they were impressed with how he was so gentle, caring and considerate to his patients, as well as being excellent technically. I only wish I had this web site then because I think I would have asked a lot more questions and been better informed. However, this would not have changed my choice of treatment or doctor, nor the outcome. Dr. Bradbury answered all my questions with patience. This is my story if you want the details: I have had two myos. The first in 1990 in Ireland where they removed a very large number of small fibroids and some around 4cm and 6cm in diameter. I was 27 and they warned me that the fibroids would probably grow back and that I should try to start a family 'sooner rather than later'. (However, as I did not have a husband or a likely prospect on the horizon, this was somewhat acedemic.) The myo did give me my life back - big time. My periods returned to near normal and so did my energy levels. So much so that I went backpacking in Australia, loved it and emigrated there. To cut a long story short the fibroids grew back and had to be removed again. By this time I was married and wanted to start a family. The op was very difficult due to excessive bleeding (adenomyosis present) and the large number of fibroids to be removed. Also a 4cm fibroid was situated too close to the uterine artery to be removed without risking losing the uterus. Dr. Bradbury knew I wanted to preserve my fertility so left this fibroid alone. My recovery was slow at first due to the blood loss, but once out of hospital I recovered quickly. However, my first period after the myo was extreme. After that my periods were heavy but only for 2 - 3 days, no mid-month bleeding, and no clots. Unfortunatly my uterus was big - 10cm diameter - making it impossible for me to concieve. We have had to accept that we cannot have a child. My problem now is that the fibroids are growing again. My uterus is 15x10cm with many small fibroids and some bigger ones. This time I will try UAE (Uterine Arterial Embolisation) as I am only 38 and really do not want a hysterectomy unless it really is the only option left. I too feel frustrated that I have had to work all this out for myself. My gyne knew nothing about UAE and I have had to find a hospital, IR (Interventional Radoilogist), work out the insurance cover, etc. etc. by myself. If I had some rare disease I might understand, but fibroids are not rare. Anyhow, hope this helps you in some way. You are not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Mandy, Sorry. In trying to not make my post too long, I left out that I now live in Germany due to my husbands job. So my current gynecologist is a local German doctor and my UAE will be performed in a German hospital by a local IR. So I cannot help you with UAE in Sdyney. Dr. Bradbury never mentioned it to me although the last time I saw him was in 1998 and it may not have been available then. I can only suggest you do as I have done over here - talk to doctors, surf the web, contact local hospitals and radiology departments and ask them do they have IRs performing UAE, contact local professional organisations (is there an Aussie Interventional Radiologists Assoc??), etc. Dr. Kirsch also very kindly answered an e-mail I sent him asking for names of IRs in Germany that performed UAE. You could also check conference papers to see if any Aussie IRs attended. I generally found the gynecologists to be poorly informed about UAE and IRs to be a better source of information. By the end of all of this I had an A4 ring binder full of data and would bring it with me when seeing my gyne and the IR. You ask what kind of fibroids I have. Without lapsing into rude language, I have lots of small fibroids that make my uterus large and bulky. Also have some 3 - 5 cm fibroids that can be identified on the ultrasound. If you are interested in UAE I also recommend the yahoo 'embo' chat group as a great source of info, if you are not already a member there. I cannot remember how bad your symptoms are though. It's important to check out all the options. Hope this helps, and good luck with the detective work, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Mandy, Sorry. In trying to not make my post too long, I left out that I now live in Germany due to my husbands job. So my current gynecologist is a local German doctor and my UAE will be performed in a German hospital by a local IR. So I cannot help you with UAE in Sdyney. Dr. Bradbury never mentioned it to me although the last time I saw him was in 1998 and it may not have been available then. I can only suggest you do as I have done over here - talk to doctors, surf the web, contact local hospitals and radiology departments and ask them do they have IRs performing UAE, contact local professional organisations (is there an Aussie Interventional Radiologists Assoc??), etc. Dr. Kirsch also very kindly answered an e-mail I sent him asking for names of IRs in Germany that performed UAE. You could also check conference papers to see if any Aussie IRs attended. I generally found the gynecologists to be poorly informed about UAE and IRs to be a better source of information. By the end of all of this I had an A4 ring binder full of data and would bring it with me when seeing my gyne and the IR. You ask what kind of fibroids I have. Without lapsing into rude language, I have lots of small fibroids that make my uterus large and bulky. Also have some 3 - 5 cm fibroids that can be identified on the ultrasound. If you are interested in UAE I also recommend the yahoo 'embo' chat group as a great source of info, if you are not already a member there. I cannot remember how bad your symptoms are though. It's important to check out all the options. Hope this helps, and good luck with the detective work, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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