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>One was without my

consent in the hospital right after she was born<

,

Do you know if there is any recoarse you can take about them vaccinating

with out your consent? I am curious to know what our rights are when they

vaccinate without consent. If anyone else has this answer please let me

know, Thanks, Ann

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At 09:52 AM 1/28/99 -0600, you wrote:

>From: kemco@... (lisa d. kemnitz)

>The one concern I have is with polio. I'm not going to vaccinate her

against this disease but, I am afraid of it's ability to really harm a

child. Does anyone else feel concerned about Polio? I have heard of severe

problems related to polio. I have a family member who was crippled from

polio. I have also read horror stories of a woman who spent her life in a

iron lung as a result of this disease. I don't think a vaccine full of

toxic substances is the answer to my concerns but, I do wonder how to

protect her from the complications of a disease like polio. I would like to

hear how some of you feel about this! I welcome all thoughts and input.

Thanks so much. Glad to be apart of this list.<p>>>>>>>>

Hi and welcome to the list :)

I'm not sure where you live, but here in the United States the only

reported cases of polio are contracted FROM the vaccine. The best

preventative measure to take is to not have your child vaccinated for

polio. There is also a small chance that one could contract polio from one

who was recently vaccinated; since it is secreted through the feces. So be

aware of whom your child interacts with - don't change another babies

diaper who was recently vaccinated - and wash hands regularly.....hope this

sheds some light on your concerns.

Lana

>Hi all my name is , I have one daughter, Baylee who is 11 months old.

>I have been on the list actually for a long time and have just now had the

>opportunity to introduce myself. Unfortunately Baylee has recieved two Heb

>B shots. I hate to think that her little immune system was bombarded by

>toxins for what I feel was a total unecessary vaccine. One was without my

>consent in the hospital right after she was born, the other when she was a

>month old. The good news is that was all the shots she received! I am very

>thankful that I decided to research vaccines before she was given any other

>shots. I was reluctant all along to give them to her, yet coaxed into

>believing Dr.'s knew what was best! Didn't take me long to figure out that

>was not the case in a lot of circumstances. Thankfully dh is in full

>support with my decision not to vaccinate, although he does feel concerned

>about her in the event that she would contract one of the childhood

>illnesses.<p>

>

>The one concern I have is with polio. I'm not going to vaccinate her

>against this disease but, I am afraid of it's ability to really harm a

>child. Does anyone else feel concerned about Polio? I have heard of severe

>problems related to polio. I have a family member who was crippled from

>polio. I have also read horror stories of a woman who spent her life in a

>iron lung as a result of this disease. I don't think a vaccine full of

>toxic substances is the answer to my concerns but, I do wonder how to

>protect her from the complications of a disease like polio. I would like to

>hear how some of you feel about this! I welcome all thoughts and input.

>Thanks so much. Glad to be apart of this list.<p>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Well for me polio was one of the first ones that we decided against. Since

we live in Canada we do not have the threat of catching polio from the OPV

as it is not used here anymore. Lana was right, cases now (8-10 a year are

reported to VAERS, though we all know it is probably higher) of people

getting polio from the vaccine. Just last month I gave some help to a

family when the father got polio from changing his daughters diaper. The

fact remains that the only threat of polio would be coming into contact with

feces from a recently vaccinated child. Also I would like to add that 90%

of all polio cases are non-paralytic. Chances are if the person coming into

contact with the polio is healthy and has a strong immune system they will

recover just fine. I really feel that the side effects to the vaccine are

not worth the risk of the remote chance of coming into contact with feces

from a recently vaccinated child.

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From: kemco@... (lisa d. kemnitz)

Hi all my name is , I have one daughter, Baylee who is 11 months old.

I have been on the list actually for a long time and have just now had the

opportunity to introduce myself. Unfortunately Baylee has recieved two Heb

B shots. I hate to think that her little immune system was bombarded by

toxins for what I feel was a total unecessary vaccine. One was without my

consent in the hospital right after she was born, the other when she was a

month old. The good news is that was all the shots she received! I am very

thankful that I decided to research vaccines before she was given any other

shots. I was reluctant all along to give them to her, yet coaxed into

believing Dr.'s knew what was best! Didn't take me long to figure out that

was not the case in a lot of circumstances. Thankfully dh is in full

support with my decision not to vaccinate, although he does feel concerned

about her in the event that she would contract one of the childhood

illnesses.<p>

The one concern I have is with polio. I'm not going to vaccinate her

against this disease but, I am afraid of it's ability to really harm a

child. Does anyone else feel concerned about Polio? I have heard of severe

problems related to polio. I have a family member who was crippled from

polio. I have also read horror stories of a woman who spent her life in a

iron lung as a result of this disease. I don't think a vaccine full of

toxic substances is the answer to my concerns but, I do wonder how to

protect her from the complications of a disease like polio. I would like to

hear how some of you feel about this! I welcome all thoughts and input.

Thanks so much. Glad to be apart of this list.<p>

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In a message dated 7/23/00 5:51:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hare@...

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Hi. My name is and I'm mama to 2 year old breastfed, unvaccinated

Amy. >>

Hi ,

Glad you joined the list.I hope you fine it helpful.

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Hi ,

Welcome to the list. We get tetanus questions on the list it seems about

every week. I will send you privately the information I have as it has

been posted to the list in the last month.

Sounds like you've been thru a lot of what others have here and it is

maddening and idiotic.

I'll send you some info and ask any questions of all of us.

Sheri

At 08:39 AM 07/23/2000 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi. My name is and I'm mama to 2 year old breastfed, unvaccinated

>Amy. Her birth was attended by medical morons who also demanded we

>vaccinate. Their performance as regards the health of me and my babe had

>been so outstanding (snort, gasp) that we decided we'd better do some

>investigation before we took anything at their word. And so we did. We

>read The Immunization Decision by Randall Neustaedter and What About

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Yes. Grow Calendula. Very versitile.

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---- " Beth Costa " <bethcosta@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone!

>

> I'm new to this list, my name is Beth Costa. I made my first batch

>

> of CP soap on my (ugh!) 30th birthday earlier this year, and have

> been hooked ever since. I am almost as hooked on these lists as I

> am

> on soapmaking! LOL I am newly married (just over 1 yr.) and have 2

>

> beagle children. Maybe some *real* babies next year. haha I live

>

> in northern IL, and we just bought our dream house on 5 acres. I am

>

> not moving again until I am too old to climb the stairs to go to bed

>

> at night! :) I am hopeful to have a " soap herb " garden next spring.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Here's my question: I am in a rubber stamping club, and we do

> monthly swaps based on a certain theme. This month's theme is

> southwest. I think it would be fun to give the ladies a cornmeal

> facial scrub and stamp the labels. What fragrances would you

> associate with 'southwest'? I was thinking of putting dried cilantro

>

> and lime EO, but would love some other ideas. TIA and glad to meet

>

> ya'.

>

> Sudsy Regards,

> Beth Costa

> www.invigorations.com

>

>

>

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Isn't calendula marigold? Deby

Re: Intro & question

>

> Yes. Grow Calendula. Very versitile.

>

> --

> Marcelle Karustis

> mkarustis@... - email

> (973) 776-3900 x7867 - voicemail/fax

>

>

>

> ---- " Beth Costa " <bethcosta@...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > I'm new to this list, my name is Beth Costa. I made my first batch

> >

> > of CP soap on my (ugh!) 30th birthday earlier this year, and have

> > been hooked ever since. I am almost as hooked on these lists as I

> > am

> > on soapmaking! LOL I am newly married (just over 1 yr.) and have 2

> >

> > beagle children. Maybe some *real* babies next year. haha I live

> >

> > in northern IL, and we just bought our dream house on 5 acres. I am

> >

> > not moving again until I am too old to climb the stairs to go to bed

> >

> > at night! :) I am hopeful to have a " soap herb " garden next spring.

> >

> > Any suggestions?

> >

> > Here's my question: I am in a rubber stamping club, and we do

> > monthly swaps based on a certain theme. This month's theme is

> > southwest. I think it would be fun to give the ladies a cornmeal

> > facial scrub and stamp the labels. What fragrances would you

> > associate with 'southwest'? I was thinking of putting dried cilantro

> >

> > and lime EO, but would love some other ideas. TIA and glad to meet

> >

> > ya'.

> >

> > Sudsy Regards,

> > Beth Costa

> > www.invigorations.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi ,

Nice to have you on the list.

Do you need to see a regular Doctor for any reason?

My son is going to be 2 years old next week and has only seen a regular

doctor twice in his life (at 2 weeks old and the second time was because I

had a panic attack when he had a fever) Otherwise, I take Trenton to a

Homeopath, and every now and then the Chiropractor - both of whom support my

wholeheartedly!!

Good Luck

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Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots!

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Oh girlfriend, I can help here! Have you ever thought of using a naturopath

as your pediatrician? My pediatrician is a naturopath AND a chiropractor.

He is located in Friendswood and is absolutely wonderful! His practice even

includes alternative therapy practitioners such as cranial-sacral, massage,

colon hydrotherapy, meridian stress assessment, homeopathics and physical

therapy.

It may be further than you wish to drive however. So here are some

suggestions for finding an open-minded doctor.

www.ACAM.org

www.alternative-medicine-and-health.com

www.alternativemedicine.com

www.healthy.net

www.healthmall.com

Call Mothering Magazine - they have a database of such docs

Ask for referrals at health food stores

Ask for referrals from direct entry midwives

By the way, I live in Alvin, Texas

In a message dated 7/26/2001 4:11:59 PM Central Daylight Time,

lisa_donbavand@... writes:

> Hi everyone! I wanted to thank all of you for the great information

> you share everyday. It has made the vaccine decision much easier!

>

> My name is . I have a 1 year old son who has been partially

> vaccinated. I have been in search for a new doctor for him because

> his current pediatrician refuses to see him unless we get ALL of his

> vaccines. She said that we were putting her staff at risk by not

> having him vaccinated. I thought that was funny. Weren't they

> vaccinated or do the vaccines not work??? Ah-hah! Anyway, if anyone

> knows of a family doctor/pediatrician in the Houston area

> (preferrably south side) that supports parents who choose not to

> vaccinate, please send me their name. I am having a terrible time

> finding one. I have been to several Dr " interviews " where I was told

> I was insane for not vaccinating.

>

> Thanks again for all of the information and support!

>

>

>

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Hi Beth and Welcome,

I haven't heard of this one specifically. Any kind of writing tends to push

faster brain speeds, since it requires language processing. And specific work

on the design of handwriting stresses fine motor coordination, which could help

push SMR.

Probably can't hurt, but I have no experience as to how well it will work. Let

us know if you decide to try it and what you learn.

Pete

-- Intro & Question

>

Hello,

My name is Beth and I have a 7 year old son who was diagnosed with

ADHD last August. We have done various treatment routes (diet,

medication, diet + medication, behavior modification techniques,

etc.) with him, but have not been satisfied with the outcomes and/or

the side effects. Has anyone here had success with the Retrain the

Brain handwriting program? Any comments, suggestions, advice is

greatly needed and always welcomed.

Take Care,

Beth

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> Does anyone have any information on aspergers being linked

> genetically?

>

There is quite a bit of evidence to the effect that autistic spectrum

stuff may have a genetic component, but I don't think it matters much.

Even if the evidence clearly showed a genetic basis -- even if we knew

the exact genes responsible -- it would not tell us what we should do.

> Also, has anyone had any luck getting AS kids to write. The thoughts

> are easy, but getting them onto the page is a whole different story.

For our son there are two issues: 1) organizing thoughts into a

narrative and 2) doing the physical work of writing. We have found it

useful to give him a really structured template, or a number of

examples, so that he can organize his thoughts more easily. We are

just now switching to having him write more on a laptop. The advantage

is that, if you get a bit of content typed out you can then say, " OK,

let's add a couple more examples to this part in the middle, " or

" let's move this thought over here to a new paragraph, " etc.

Basically, when you write on paper, the whole process is linear, and

once it's done it's hard to improve on it without starting again. When

you write on a computer you can add on to it an reshape it all you

like. You can also add formatting at the end, before printing it out,

so that the end result looks impressive, which is satisfying.

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I have always homeschooled my now 15 year old asperger son. I am

sooooooooo glad I never put him in public school. I shudder to think

how damaging the cruel way kids treat other kids would be to him

emotionally. As one with aspergers myself, I understand the pain.

Now that he is high school age, he has no problem making friends in

the social events he is involved in (orchestra, church youth group

and homeschool events) which years ago I doubted he could handle.

My son has always seemed to stumble over his words when he talks. He

knows what he wants to say but it comes out in the wrong order or

with important parts missing. I never knew if it was a speech issue

or if he really wasn't putting his thoughts together correctly. When

he started learning to write, I found the same problem. His

sentences didn't make sense and it would take forever to write a

sentence. By 5th grade, he was still struggling.

One summer, I decided to have him learn how to type in preparation

for possibly using some computer-based curriculum in the mix. At

first it was really frustrating and we were using JumpStart typing.

Instead of dropping it, I switched to Mavis Beacon typing since that

is what I learned on. Soon he was typing well. Before I knew it, he

was going on the word processing program typing stories. To my

amazement, his sentences made sense! I was able to have a deeper

insight into him that I never did before. Looking back, I have come

to realize that the mechanics of writing is difficult for him. It

would take so much time and concentration to write the first half of

a sentence that by the time he was writing the second half, he forgot

what he was going to say. With typing, he was able to let him ideas

flow unhindered. Now, I let him type most of his assignments. The

only writing he does is math and fill-in-the-blank assignments. I

work full-time and know writing is rarely used anymore. Even

messages in the same office are sent by email. Having him do the

minimal writing he does I believe is sufficient for him to be able to

write checks, fill out applications and quick notes.

I have also realized that by giving him an avenue to where he can let

his ideas flow, his ability to put together sentences while talking

has greatly improved.

As for genetics, this issue was recently discussed. I would suggest

you read the archives. My view is the ASD spectrum is genetic but

environment plays a greater role. In addition to autism, diabetes

and skin cancer run in my family. My risk of getting these

conditions are dependent on if I am in the sun too much, what my diet

is like, how much I weigh and was environmental toxins I am exposed

to.

>

> My name is Jen and I am new to the group. We have a 9 year old who

is

> just being diagnosed with aspergers. We are waiting on the IEP and

> have moved him from a semester of home schooling back into the

public

> system. He needed more help and social experiences with kids. Sad

to

> say, but he needed kids who couldn't choose to get away from him.

He

> is doing better with kids in school than he did with other kids

outside

> of school.

>

> My mom is reading a book by the woman who started the Orion Academy

and

> seeing explanations for her difficult sister who the family never

> understood. Does anyone have any information on aspergers being

linked

> genetically?

>

> Also, has anyone had any luck getting AS kids to write. The

thoughts

> are easy, but getting them onto the page is a whole different story.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

>

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Does anyone have any information on aspergers being linked

> genetically?

>

> Also, has anyone had any luck getting AS kids to write. The

thoughts

> are easy, but getting them onto the page is a whole different story.

>

> Thanks,

> Jen

>

We have 3 aspies 13, 10, 8 (boy, girl, boy). The state university

here

has a Dr that is doing genetic research, he is part of a group that I

believe is nationwide doing this research. It was part of a news

story

on one of our local channels on the 10 o'clock news. When they found

out we have 6 ASD children they included us in their story.

Anyway, it looks like genetics is a MAJOR factor according to their

research. We've been asked to be a part of the study here, as we

learn

more we'll post.

As far as the writing all of our Aspies are good writers, the 13 yr

old

has gotten awards for his penmanship. The 10 and 8 yr old are good

artists. We've always encouraged them to write, draw, mark, etc. as

long as it was on paper - no walls ; ) If he wants to write in

pictures instead of words, that's OK. Just let it flow with no

judgements or any 'that's not the way to do'. He find his own way,

may not be the worlds way, but that's OK too. Hope this helps!

and Robin

Parents of 6 children DX with ASD

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Isn't it amazing how different our kids are? My asperger son has

always had a very difficult time writing. His primary problem is he

feels he has to form every letter perfectly and therefore it takes sooo

long. He also has a hard time getting the letters the same size and in

a straight line (he is now 15). What is surprising is he is a very

gifted artist. This is what made me discover he has a photographic

memory. The first time I realize something was different was when he

was 6 he watched a weekly episode of Rugrats. Five or six days later,

he drew a picture from a scene in Rugrats. Without having any

reference, he drew every pocket, wrinkle and dimple exactly. Later

after I bought the episode on video, I compared at it was near

perfect. How could a child be such a gifted artist and struggle with

writing? It was years later that I discovered he is aspergers.

> As far as the writing all of our Aspies are good writers, the 13 yr

> old

> has gotten awards for his penmanship. The 10 and 8 yr old are good

> artists. We've always encouraged them to write, draw, mark, etc. as

> long as it was on paper - no walls ; ) If he wants to write in

> pictures instead of words, that's OK. Just let it flow with no

> judgements or any 'that's not the way to do'. He find his own way,

> may not be the worlds way, but that's OK too. Hope this helps!

>

> and Robin

> Parents of 6 children DX with ASD

>

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Isn't it amazing how different our kids are? My asperger son has

always had a very difficult time writing. His primary problem is he

feels he has to form every letter perfectly and therefore it takes sooo

long. He also has a hard time getting the letters the same size and in

a straight line (he is now 15). What is surprising is he is a very

gifted artist. This is what made me discover he has a photographic

memory. The first time I realize something was different was when he

was 6 he watched a weekly episode of Rugrats. Five or six days later,

he drew a picture from a scene in Rugrats. Without having any

reference, he drew every pocket, wrinkle and dimple exactly. Later

after I bought the episode on video, I compared at it was near

perfect. How could a child be such a gifted artist and struggle with

writing? It was years later that I discovered he is aspergers.

> As far as the writing all of our Aspies are good writers, the 13 yr

> old

> has gotten awards for his penmanship. The 10 and 8 yr old are good

> artists. We've always encouraged them to write, draw, mark, etc. as

> long as it was on paper - no walls ; ) If he wants to write in

> pictures instead of words, that's OK. Just let it flow with no

> judgements or any 'that's not the way to do'. He find his own way,

> may not be the worlds way, but that's OK too. Hope this helps!

>

> and Robin

> Parents of 6 children DX with ASD

>

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Our family is participating in AGRE the autism genetic/genome research project. Although I am not convinced of a genetic source of autism, I want to be sure that as our family has been impacted by autism with two autistic kids - that we do our part.Jenautism_bites <autism_bites@...> wrote: Does anyone have any information on aspergers being

linked > genetically? > > Also, has anyone had any luck getting AS kids to write. The thoughts > are easy, but getting them onto the page is a whole different story. > > Thanks, > Jen > We have 3 aspies 13, 10, 8 (boy, girl, boy). The state university here has a Dr that is doing genetic research, he is part of a group that I believe is nationwide doing this research. It was part of a news story on one of our local channels on the 10 o'clock news. When they found out we have 6 ASD children they included us in their story. Anyway, it looks like genetics is a MAJOR factor according to their research. We've been asked to be a part of the study here, as we learn more we'll post. As far as the writing all of our Aspies are good writers, the 13 yr old has gotten awards for his penmanship. The 10 and 8 yr old are good artists.

We've always encouraged them to write, draw, mark, etc. as long as it was on paper - no walls ; ) If he wants to write in pictures instead of words, that's OK. Just let it flow with no judgements or any 'that's not the way to do'. He find his own way, may not be the worlds way, but that's OK too. Hope this helps! and Robin Parents of 6 children DX with ASD

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Hi,

I just joined this group for some info & support with my RA -

I am 47 in good health other than the ra & benign positional vertigo

(crystals in the inner ear- with exercises they are fine - otherwise

i get nasty dizzy spells - until it was diagnosed i even ended up in

the hospital!)

Was dx'ed with the ra this year after about 2 years of achy joints

especially the wrists and hands-

I am on sulfazine (1000 mg 2 x day) , folic acid (1 mg/day), and

prednisone (5 mg /day)

I am real active- i care for my teenage son with disabilities (

he has landau kleffner syndrome variant - it is like epilepsy with

high functioning autism)

i have 3 more kids too - they are older - two working on their master

degrees (one will be an occupational therapist- yeah!! my very own!) &

the other one just graduated with her assoc degree this spring -

and also run an exotic pet sanctuary (Critter Camp Exotic Pet

Sanctuary) it is in our home ( but is a separate nonprofit org, board

of directors etc - the site is www.crittercamp.biz - i hope that is

ok on this list- it is a nonprofit & i am a volunteer - so i dont

receive any benefit -but as director i always give out the link :) we

plan to build a separate building for the rescues within the next few

years- we currently care for over 240 abandoned abused exotic pets of

30 different types! so that is alot of work- but we have about 20

volunteers that help too :)

i also ride the harley & garden with my wonderful supportive

boyfriend :)

so now my question is - i dont get back to the dr for acouple of

weeks & i will ask him of course then- but the past few weeks i have

noticed that my thumbs & forefingers go numb alot - and its painful

numb like tingling - any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks a ton!!

beth

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I have exactly the same thing in terms of the thumb and forefinger about every

three to four days. One thing I have learned in reading the messages in this

group is that everyone is different and unfortunately their RA expresses itself

on that kind of individual basis. So, that is to say I can only speak for

myself. The first thing is to try and lighten and balance the load. In my case

I'm right handed so I am prone to over using that hand. I know it's hard to do

but I've found it is effective. Don't just grab the sack of groceries, or gallon

of milk or stack of books with one hand but think about how you can balance and

distribute that load. By the end of the day (again for me) I've found it makes a

huge difference. Also, don't just hang on to things when you get involved in a

conversation or in the middle of things, set the weight down. It may not seem

like it but those tendons, muscles, and joints are still working and that means

they're under stress. Stress = flares and sorenes

s. I bought a simple Ace wrist support at the drug store for about 7 bucks and

it works for me for two reasons. First, it does offer some support and

protection to the wrist which extends slightly to the thumb and forefinger.

Second, it reminds me this hand is sore, take it easy. I ended up getting one

for each wrist because my RA seems to take pleasure in pounding the hell out of

my wrist, thumb and forefinger. At one point it was so bad I couldn't even hold

a pen to sign my name. Now, taking these measures I can draw two to three hours

a day with little to no problem. That's what works for me and I really hope its

helpful to you.

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Thank you - that is helpful!!

beth

>

> I have exactly the same thing in terms of the thumb and forefinger

about every three to four days. One thing I have learned in reading

the messages in this group is that everyone is different and

unfortunately their RA expresses itself on that kind of individual

basis. So, that is to say I can only speak for myself. The first

thing is to try and lighten and balance the load. In my case I'm

right handed so I am prone to over using that hand. I know it's hard

to do but I've found it is effective. Don't just grab the sack of

groceries, or gallon of milk or stack of books with one hand but

think about how you can balance and distribute that load. By the end

of the day (again for me) I've found it makes a huge difference.

Also, don't just hang on to things when you get involved in a

conversation or in the middle of things, set the weight down. It may

not seem like it but those tendons, muscles, and joints are still

working and that means they're under stress. Stress = flares and

sorenes

> s. I bought a simple Ace wrist support at the drug store for about

7 bucks and it works for me for two reasons. First, it does offer

some support and protection to the wrist which extends slightly to

the thumb and forefinger. Second, it reminds me this hand is sore,

take it easy. I ended up getting one for each wrist because my RA

seems to take pleasure in pounding the hell out of my wrist, thumb

and forefinger. At one point it was so bad I couldn't even hold a pen

to sign my name. Now, taking these measures I can draw two to three

hours a day with little to no problem. That's what works for me and I

really hope its helpful to you.

>

>

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>I have a question for you.Ive tried the wrist and knee braces for

support but it hurts so bad,that I have to remove them.Did you ever

experience this?and if so was there anything you tried to do so you

could wear them?

> I have exactly the same thing in terms of the thumb and forefinger

about every three to four days. One thing I have learned in reading

the messages in this group is that everyone is different and

unfortunately their RA expresses itself on that kind of individual

basis. So, that is to say I can only speak for myself. The first

thing is to try and lighten and balance the load. In my case I'm

right handed so I am prone to over using that hand. I know it's hard

to do but I've found it is effective. Don't just grab the sack of

groceries, or gallon of milk or stack of books with one hand but

think about how you can balance and distribute that load. By the end

of the day (again for me) I've found it makes a huge difference.

Also, don't just hang on to things when you get involved in a

conversation or in the middle of things, set the weight down. It may

not seem like it but those tendons, muscles, and joints are still

working and that means they're under stress. Stress = flares and

sorenes

> s. I bought a simple Ace wrist support at the drug store for about

7 bucks and it works for me for two reasons. First, it does offer

some support and protection to the wrist which extends slightly to

the thumb and forefinger. Second, it reminds me this hand is sore,

take it easy. I ended up getting one for each wrist because my RA

seems to take pleasure in pounding the hell out of my wrist, thumb

and forefinger. At one point it was so bad I couldn't even hold a pen

to sign my name. Now, taking these measures I can draw two to three

hours a day with little to no problem. That's what works for me and I

really hope its helpful to you.

>

>

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I'm new to all of this so I can only speak from my experience. There' so much

going on with tendon, bone and muscle that I have found on more than one

occassion a support will lock everything into postion and about five to ten

minutes later it feels like it's doing more harm than good. For myself, I use

them for when I am doing what I call moderate physical activity (the things we

all have to do like empty out the trash) and I don't use them when I am in a

light phiscal activity (watching Frasier) mode. I want to stay as felxable as

possible so I do range of motion excersices which a rheumatologist can

recommend, but I don't do them with an area that in inflamed until that area has

recovered.

Stan

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>I have a question for you.Ive tried the wrist and knee braces for

support but it hurts so bad,that I have to remove them.Did you ever

experience this?and if so was there anything you tried to do so you

could wear them?

> I have exactly the same thing in terms of the thumb and forefinger

about every three to four days. One thing I have learned in reading

the messages in this group is that everyone is different and

unfortunately their RA expresses itself on that kind of individual

basis. So, that is to say I can only speak for myself. The first

thing is to try and lighten and balance the load. In my case I'm

right handed so I am prone to over using that hand. I know it's hard

to do but I've found it is effective. Don't just grab the sack of

groceries, or gallon of milk or stack of books with one hand but

think about how you can balance and distribute that load. By the end

of the day (again for me) I've found it makes a huge difference.

Also, don't just hang on to things when you get involved in a

conversation or in the middle of things, set the weight down. It may

not seem like it but those tendons, muscles, and joints are still

working and that means they're under stress. Stress = flares and

sorenes

> s. I bought a simple Ace wrist support at the drug store for about

7 bucks and it works for me for two reasons. First, it does offer

some support and protection to the wrist which extends slightly to

the thumb and forefinger. Second, it reminds me this hand is sore,

take it easy. I ended up getting one for each wrist because my RA

seems to take pleasure in pounding the hell out of my wrist, thumb

and forefinger. At one point it was so bad I couldn't even hold a pen

to sign my name. Now, taking these measures I can draw two to three

hours a day with little to no problem. That's what works for me and I

really hope its helpful to you.

>

>

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Thanks!!

beth

> >I have a question for you.Ive tried the wrist and knee braces for

> support but it hurts so bad,that I have to remove them.Did you ever

> experience this?and if so was there anything you tried to do so you

> could wear them?

>

> > I have exactly the same thing in terms of the thumb and

forefinger

> about every three to four days. One thing I have learned in reading

> the messages in this group is that everyone is different and

> unfortunately their RA expresses itself on that kind of individual

> basis. So, that is to say I can only speak for myself. The first

> thing is to try and lighten and balance the load. In my case I'm

> right handed so I am prone to over using that hand. I know it's

hard

> to do but I've found it is effective. Don't just grab the sack of

> groceries, or gallon of milk or stack of books with one hand but

> think about how you can balance and distribute that load. By the

end

> of the day (again for me) I've found it makes a huge difference.

> Also, don't just hang on to things when you get involved in a

> conversation or in the middle of things, set the weight down. It

may

> not seem like it but those tendons, muscles, and joints are still

> working and that means they're under stress. Stress = flares and

> sorenes

> > s. I bought a simple Ace wrist support at the drug store for

about

> 7 bucks and it works for me for two reasons. First, it does offer

> some support and protection to the wrist which extends slightly to

> the thumb and forefinger. Second, it reminds me this hand is sore,

> take it easy. I ended up getting one for each wrist because my RA

> seems to take pleasure in pounding the hell out of my wrist, thumb

> and forefinger. At one point it was so bad I couldn't even hold a

pen

> to sign my name. Now, taking these measures I can draw two to three

> hours a day with little to no problem. That's what works for me and

I

> really hope its helpful to you.

> >

> >

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