Thanks, but no Thanks.

August 13, 2008

You know i agree with you on this. If i hadnt checked the med that my doc

wanted to put me

on id be dead. I see no harm in what you posted. If you read any articles

on line you will

see people are getting more and more overdosed on meds and things

interacting. I dont think you said anything that wasn't really true here.

Jolene

In a message dated 8/13/2008 10:23:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

laurenrosepeters@... writes:

I'd like to Thanksthe few people who pubicly attacked me personally for

a comment I made out of the concern for others. I appologize, but out

of the concern for my OWN life, I ALWAYS check the iteractions of the

medications that I take, and thus have researched many of the

medications and thier interactions. I appologize, however when a drug

interaction could be fatal, I think that is something that people

should be aware of, and talk to their doctor about.

I just think that we should be educated patients. DOCTORS ARE HUMAN.

They make mistakes! It doesn't hurt to research it yourself.

ALSO, I'd like to thank the group for their OVERWHELMING support, when

I put my pride on the line, and begged for everyones help in finding a

job. I finally feel better enough to do this.....and what do I

get......ABSOLUTLY NO responses. Not even a good luck.

So really, I find it interesting, that it is OK to publicly attack

me.....but no well wishes, when I am trying to better myself.

THANKS ALOT!

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August 13, 2008

I'd like to Thanksthe few people who pubicly attacked me personally for

a comment I made out of the concern for others. I appologize, but out

of the concern for my OWN life, I ALWAYS check the iteractions of the

medications that I take, and thus have researched many of the

medications and thier interactions. I appologize, however when a drug

interaction could be fatal, I think that is something that people

should be aware of, and talk to their doctor about.

I just think that we should be educated patients. DOCTORS ARE HUMAN.

They make mistakes! It doesn't hurt to research it yourself.

ALSO, I'd like to thank the group for their OVERWHELMING support, when

I put my pride on the line, and begged for everyones help in finding a

job. I finally feel better enough to do this.....and what do I

get......ABSOLUTLY NO responses. Not even a good luck.

So really, I find it interesting, that it is OK to publicly attack

me.....but no well wishes, when I am trying to better myself.

THANKS ALOT!

August 13, 2008

Thanks Jolene! Thanks for your support. I am not trying to be

offensive by any means. Maybe what I said came out wrong....my bad

for that if that is the case.

I find it highly offensive when we are supposed to be a supportive

group and I get attacked PERSONALLY being called " uncaring and

ignorant " . Being told that I am going to scare people away from the

group. Like you said, if you hadn't checked you could have be dead,

and I experienced the same thing! It just honestly scares me when

people have long list of medications, and duplications in their uses.

I have also been critized for not addressing each person personally

with their drug interaction. Honestly, if anyone wants me to go

through each and every list and post the interactions, I'd be happy

to.....but I think that is crossing the line a little. Posts are

supposed to be generalized....

I agree to talk to your pharmacist. However the particular drug

combination that was given to me, past through two doctors and two

pharmacist hands....and no one caught it. We are human, doctor and

pharmacist alike. We have the internet, WHY NOT check?

I witnessed too many deaths personally, due to overdose or

interactions. I am not going to be quiet about it....sorry if I

offended any one in the process. I am certainly offended now and hurt.

>

> You know i agree with you on this. If i hadnt checked the med that

my doc

> wanted to put me

> on id be dead. I see no harm in what you posted. If you read any

articles

> on line you will

> see people are getting more and more overdosed on meds and things

> interacting. I dont think you said anything that wasn't really

true here.

>

> Jolene

>

> In a message dated 8/13/2008 10:23:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> laurenrosepeters@... writes:

>

> I'd like to Thanksthe few people who pubicly attacked me personally

for

> a comment I made out of the concern for others. I appologize, but

out

> of the concern for my OWN life, I ALWAYS check the iteractions of

the

> medications that I take, and thus have researched many of the

> medications and thier interactions. I appologize, however when a

drug

> interaction could be fatal, I think that is something that people

> should be aware of, and talk to their doctor about.

>

> I just think that we should be educated patients. DOCTORS ARE

HUMAN.

> They make mistakes! It doesn't hurt to research it yourself.

>

> ALSO, I'd like to thank the group for their OVERWHELMING support,

when

> I put my pride on the line, and begged for everyones help in

finding a

> job. I finally feel better enough to do this.....and what do I

> get......ABSOLUTLY NO responses. Not even a good luck.

>

> So really, I find it interesting, that it is OK to publicly attack

> me.....but no well wishes, when I am trying to better myself.

>

> THANKS ALOT!

>

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August 14, 2008

I have to also agree with you here. I tend to be a lurker mostly because

every time I do share an opinion I too get the same response that you have

gotten.

If I listened and follow my doc like a good little patient I too would be

DEAD! From a fatal drug interaction on more than one occasion. I have also

had docs prescribe drugs which I have clearly stated I am allergic too and have

anaphylactic reactions too. One time the doc nearly killed me that way

because he prescribed a combo drug and either did not know if contacted the

part

I was allergic too or just didn't care. Even worst is that the pharmacy did

not even catch it. Again my records are clearly marked with my drug

allergies. To make it even worst I questioned the doc for 10 mins about the

drug he

was prescribing and he seemed very annoyed. I even reminded him of my drug

allergies and was these drug safe.

I took the med as soon as I picked it up...pharmacy was inside the hospital

and I was back in the ER blue with my airway about too close. The coward of

a doc that had treated me did not even say I'm sorry and refused to even come

near me. My husband was trying to hunt his sorry butt down in the ER and he

ran from him...what does that say!!! HE KNEW HE WAS WRONG!!

So as patients educating ones self is a must these days.

I agree when I was on a ton of drugs I felt like crap. I had a life

threatening problems with drug induced pneumonitis as well as electrolyte

imbalance

and many other issues while take RA meds. If I had not insisted that

something was wrong I would be DEAD. My rheummy treated me as a whiner and did

not

listen to my concerns. When it got soo bad I could not handle it anymore my

I saw my internist who was in shock at my condition and angry with the

rheummy who was treating me!! He gave my rheummy a good tongue lashing...and

lets

just say he is no longer employed by the clinic and hospital system I was

going to. He has moved on to a large city to continue his style of practicing

medicine.

I was attacked off this group by a member of this group that told me telling

my story of my drug interactions could " scare " newbie members and to stop

scaring people and being negative. How she felt the drugs were so cutting edge

and life saving and that what was a few side effects....the side effects

were well worth the benefit of the med.

I think we each have to weigh what is worth it. For me taking MTX that left

me covered with sores on every mucous membrane, living on the bathroom floor

with constant diarrhea and vomiting, dizzy all the time from electrolyte

imbalance from dehydration and risking ulcers from the vomiting is NOT worth

any

benefit the medication had because I never had any quality of life to enjoy

its benefits. Add drug induced pnuemonitis to that...and I will pass on ever

taking this drug again.

I am sorry that you were attacked or felt attacked by members of the group.

You are not alone.

Good luck on your new job. I must have missed that post. I work fulltime

and tend to just squim the posts these days.

I have sent this your personal e-mail as they I am on moderate because they

do not like unpopular opinions in this group.

Toni

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August 14, 2008

and group;

Hey , I see you was thinking the same as me. Concern for

reactions. You got gumpsion girl or guy. To come back and snap back

heehee. I wish I could think of what to say in a crisis like yours.

When I got in trouble I just kept appologising. lot of the group

explained what i may have been thinking haaaaaaa. Couple was right

on the mark.

I thought o no. when I heard you got corrected. I think you was

saying it out of emphecy. ( forgive my spelling). I am so happy you

don't have to take a lot of pills. Give it time it can happen all at

once as mine did. And I pray you never have to. Saying all this

kindly and compasionately. I knew what you meant and I was not

offended at all sweetheart.

gentle hugs

Clora

>

> I'd like to Thanksthe few people who pubicly attacked me

personally for

> a comment I made out of the concern for others. I appologize, but

out

> of the concern for my OWN life, I ALWAYS check the iteractions of

the

> medications that I take, and thus have researched many of the

> medications and thier interactions. I appologize, however when a

drug

> interaction could be fatal, I think that is something that people

> should be aware of, and talk to their doctor about.

>

> I just think that we should be educated patients. DOCTORS ARE

HUMAN.

> They make mistakes! It doesn't hurt to research it yourself.

>

> ALSO, I'd like to thank the group for their OVERWHELMING support,

when

> I put my pride on the line, and begged for everyones help in

finding a

> job. I finally feel better enough to do this.....and what do I

> get......ABSOLUTLY NO responses. Not even a good luck.

>

> So really, I find it interesting, that it is OK to publicly attack

> me.....but no well wishes, when I am trying to better myself.

>

> THANKS ALOT!

>

August 14, 2008

Actually to be honest the moderator of this group should have stepped in and

put a stop

to all of this.

Jolene www.peaceinpain.com

In a message dated 8/14/2008 11:50:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

hmendelsohn@... writes:

,

I do, Publicly, apologize because when I reread my post it was harsh but

you have to understand the first part was about the number of drugs " we " are

taking and how don't we know the side effects. Yes I do know the side

effects of each drug I take. I am a nurse so I research each drug before I

start it. Your post sounded, to me , and several others according to the

posts, that we were being attacked for using prescription drugs. Its hard to

have to admit that I need these drugs, and God help me I would gladly give

them up for natural meds,unfortunetatly I have IC, a bladder condition and I

have to watch the combinations in natural meds as they cause severe

flares of IC.Having to take drugs to be able to get up in the morning and

to move around during the day sucks. The " attacks " you were received, for

my part at least were a reaction to feeling that you were telling me how

wrong I was.

I hope that you find the job you are looking far even though this is way

after the fact.

Heidi M

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 8:59 PM, laurenrosepeters <

_laurenrosepeters@laurenros_ (mailto:laurenrosepeters@...) > wrote:

> I'd like to Thanksthe few people who pubicly attacked me personally for

> a comment I made out of the concern for others. I appologize, but out

> of the concern for my OWN life, I ALWAYS check the iteractions of the

> medications that I take, and thus have researched many of the

> medications and thier interactions. I appologize, however when a drug

> interaction could be fatal, I think that is something that people

> should be aware of, and talk to their doctor about.

>

> I just think that we should be educated patients. DOCTORS ARE HUMAN.

> They make mistakes! It doesn't hurt to research it yourself.

>

> ALSO, I'd like to thank the group for their OVERWHELMING support, when

> I put my pride on the line, and begged for everyones help in finding a

> job. I finally feel better enough to do this.....and what do I

> get......ABSOLUTLY NO responses. Not even a good luck.

>

> So really, I find it interesting, that it is OK to publicly attack

> me.....but no well wishes, when I am trying to better myself.

>

> THANKS ALOT!

>

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August 14, 2008

Hi ,

I'm just catching up on the digests and generally just skim through

them. There are often times when doctors and even pharmacists miss

things so I think it's great that you research your drug interactions

on your own.

Also, I have an idea on a job (if you haven't found one already). I am

currently working for Western and Southern Financial Group selling

life, health, and accident insurance. I think it's great, once you are

out of training you can really set your own schedule and work from home

if that works well for you, and the hours are flexible, however there

are nights you have to meet with clients late. They were great about

knowing that I do have RA and they really didn't seem to care.

I hope this helps

~Autumn in IN

August 14, 2008