Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 Thanks for the explanation. So, can my gynocologist prescribe these natural hormones? Robyn ran Donovan wrote: > > Robyn, > > Yes, natural hormones are regulated by the FDA and therefore > only special compounding pharmacies can supply these natural > products. Natural compounded hormones can not be patented > because they are derived from natural plant products, soy > and yams and therefore any compounding pharm can make them > and pharmaceutical companies can not put their names on > them. Therefore, the good news for us is that they are much > cheaper. > > The crèmes that are sold OTC at healthfood stores are > simply the raw materials from wild yam herb and they are not > effective because our bodies lack the ability to convert > this herb into progesterone. Compounding pharmacists > convert the dioscorea into progesterone that is recognized > and accepted by our bodies. > They actually are hormones that are biologically identical > to our own hormones. The crèmes sold in healthfood stores > and the synthetics sold in regular pharmacies are not > biologically identical. Which is why they have so many side > effects or, in the case of progesterone (misnomer) crème > found OTC in healthfood stores it is ineffective. > > Our bodies do not recognize the chemicals found in Premarin > as natural which is why we have so many cases of side > effects. > Re: Re: need input > > Fran Donovan wrote: > > > women do not know about natural hormones made > > from compounding pharmacies > > Can you tell us more about these pharmacies? I probably > sound like a > complete rube, but how does one get natural hormones (ie. > prescription > or, like progesterone cream, otc in the health food store)? > Are they > assayed, are they regulated by the FDA...just wondering, as > I really > don't want to do standard HRT. Thanks, Robyn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Hello Sylvia, I have 4 fibroids that are growing about 1 to 2 cm a year from the discovery. The largest are around 7 cm. I got two doctors names from this web site and my GP is trying to get me in to see at least one of them. I have to admit the surgery does frighten me and I am so close to menopause that I have been doing a wait and see. I keep thinking of a myo but after I read some of the report that Carla supplied us last week it looks like myos may have the highest rate of complications depending on the size and blood flow. I need to talk to a gyn who is informed and decide. Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 05:02:24 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any problems? Have they stayed the same size? Sylvia At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Sylvia, >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know >what >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been >suggested to >me. >Good luck, > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >03:41:19 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: need input > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > Thanks for any input you may have. > >Sylvia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Sylvia, Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I am in the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now you can see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream about 2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and it's supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 05:02:24 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any problems? Have they stayed the same size? Sylvia At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Sylvia, >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know >what >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been >suggested to >me. >Good luck, > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >03:41:19 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: need input > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > Thanks for any input you may have. > >Sylvia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Sylvia, Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I am in the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now you can see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream about 2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and it's supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 05:02:24 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any problems? Have they stayed the same size? Sylvia At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Sylvia, >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know >what >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been >suggested to >me. >Good luck, > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >03:41:19 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: need input > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > Thanks for any input you may have. > >Sylvia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Sylvia, Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I am in the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now you can see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream about 2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and it's supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 05:02:24 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any problems? Have they stayed the same size? Sylvia At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hello Sylvia, >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know >what >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been >suggested to >me. >Good luck, > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >03:41:19 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: need input > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > Thanks for any input you may have. > >Sylvia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 , Thanks for the information. My hysterectomy is scheduled for April, but I don't think I can go through with it. I would like to see if progesterone can shrink them, but my doctors, I have been through two now, never recommend anything else but a hysterectomy. Sylvia At 10:24 AM 3/14/02 -0500, you wrote: >Sylvia, >Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my >bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I >am in >the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now >you can >see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of >heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream >about >2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and >it's >supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >05:02:24 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: Re: need input > > > >, > >What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any >problems? Have they stayed the same size? > >Sylvia >At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Hello Sylvia, > >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the > >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but > >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know > >what > >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been > >suggested to > >me. > >Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 > >03:41:19 PM > > > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > > > >To: uterinefibroids > >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > > > >Subject: need input > > > > > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm > >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed > >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT > >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and > >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither > >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has > >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that > >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > > > Thanks for any input you may have. > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Sylvia, Your email address indicates you are fom Ohio. The Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland sounds like it has some of the best doctors and there have been women on this emailing who go , so maybe you can go to at least on for another opinion. Hopefully you aren't too far from Cleveland. It might be worth the trip. Good luck, Sylvia Altenburger on 03/14/2002 12:29:01 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , Thanks for the information. My hysterectomy is scheduled for April, but I don't think I can go through with it. I would like to see if progesterone can shrink them, but my doctors, I have been through two now, never recommend anything else but a hysterectomy. Sylvia At 10:24 AM 3/14/02 -0500, you wrote: >Sylvia, >Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my >bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I >am in >the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now >you can >see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of >heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream >about >2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and >it's >supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >05:02:24 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: Re: need input > > > >, > >What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any >problems? Have they stayed the same size? > >Sylvia >At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Hello Sylvia, > >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the > >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but > >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know > >what > >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been > >suggested to > >me. > >Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 > >03:41:19 PM > > > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > > > >To: uterinefibroids > >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > > > >Subject: need input > > > > > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm > >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed > >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT > >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and > >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither > >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has > >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that > >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > > > Thanks for any input you may have. > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Sylvia, Your email address indicates you are fom Ohio. The Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland sounds like it has some of the best doctors and there have been women on this emailing who go , so maybe you can go to at least on for another opinion. Hopefully you aren't too far from Cleveland. It might be worth the trip. Good luck, Sylvia Altenburger on 03/14/2002 12:29:01 PM Please respond to uterinefibroids To: uterinefibroids cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) Subject: Re: need input , Thanks for the information. My hysterectomy is scheduled for April, but I don't think I can go through with it. I would like to see if progesterone can shrink them, but my doctors, I have been through two now, never recommend anything else but a hysterectomy. Sylvia At 10:24 AM 3/14/02 -0500, you wrote: >Sylvia, >Sorry I forgot to mention the symptons. For me it is mostly pressure on my >bladder which is problem and feeling like I am carrying a bowling ball. I >am in >the process of losing 30 pounds so although I have always felt them now >you can >see them protrude from my abdomen. During my period I have one to two days of >heavy bleeding so that isn't too bad. I starting using progesterone cream >about >2 years ago and I found it made a huge difference in breast tenderness and >it's >supposed to help keep the fibroids from growing. > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 >05:02:24 PM > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > >To: uterinefibroids >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > >Subject: Re: need input > > > >, > >What are your plans regarding the fibroids? Are they causing you any >problems? Have they stayed the same size? > >Sylvia >At 05:33 PM 3/12/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Hello Sylvia, > >I am 53 and first became aware of my fibroids at 49. I think it is the > >imbalance with the onset of menopause that may trigger fribroids as well but > >they don't really know. I am still having my periods so I also don't know > >what > >to do at this point. A hysterecomy is the only thing that has been > >suggested to > >me. > >Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > > >Sylvia Altenburger on 03/12/2002 > >03:41:19 PM > > > >Please respond to uterinefibroids > > > >To: uterinefibroids > >cc: (bcc: son/TOR/MMCA) > > > >Subject: need input > > > > > > > >I just joined this group so maybe this topic has been covered before. I'm > >52 years old and my DR. has recommended a hysterectomy because I developed > >fibroids within the last 2 years. These growths seem to coincide with HRT > >which I started taking because of symptoms. I have been to two doctors and > >both feel that the HRT would not have caused the fibroids to grow. Neither > >doctor recommended that I stop taking the HRT - now I wish I had. Has > >anyone had the same kind of experience. I'm told that's it's estrogen that > >makes these fibroids grow and at my age that should not be happening. > > > > Thanks for any input you may have. > > > >Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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