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Hi Brad,

I don't think you'll receive a backlash from anyone. In fact, I think many

of us think about the " what it would be like without these rotten meds " all

the time. I'm not going to speak any further for anyone else at this point

just on the backlash part :)

I always think about it. I might even be facing losing my Enbrel if I don't

get a job, or disability or something to help me pay for it in 2009. Then

what? Sometimes I wonder if my RA is just a bad dream. Fear plays a huge

factor in our meds. Sure we become dependent upon them. For many people, they

helped them out of wheelchairs, using canes, or from cane use to walking

without! They've gained independence. So, a few side effects vs.

independence,

normal living....hmmmm. It's truly a personal choice.

That being said, we do need to be conscious of the meds we take because of

all the contraindications. One for this, one for that, etc. It is important

to create a list on line, that you can easily update after each Drs.

appointment and print and take to each Dr. as well so they all know what you

take.

Never assume your Drs. know what you take. Show them on paper. For me, I

can't take Aleve, Ibuprofen, Naproxen, anything like that, as I have a bleeding

ulcer, and many allergies to many other meds such as sulfa drugs. I have to

walk around with a medication list. I am one who fears going off my current

meds. I remember the pain I was in without them. I still have some pain with

them, however, it's manageable. At this medication " juncture " I'm OK with

what I have.

Heidi in Mass.

In a message dated 10/19/2008 12:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

blueworld_of_fire@... writes:

Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've heard a lot

from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading many of the posts

and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are also taking a boatload of

drugs. Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated? Often, when

treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the interaction

between

all these drugs actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase the

problems instead of resolving them. Has anyone here ever dared to back off the

meds and start from scratch again?

Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's comfort with

their meds. I'll probably receive a backlash from even mentioning it.

Brad

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Brad and group;

Brad Brad Brad haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... I love the way you put that... I

will leave your post under mine so anybody that is confused can read

it... Overmedicated Over medicated... what ever do you mean.... I

was thinking that too... I am taking more for my arthritis than all

my conditions put together..

I think I am going to suggest to my rheumy that I quit all the RA

meds except the humirra injections... I know,, I know the meds may

be makeing the humirra work... I can fix that too... If the pain

comes back with a fierce attack... start each meds over one at a time

each month and stop when the pain stops... DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU

TALK TO YOUR RHEUMY.. You could have an adverse reaction stopping

certains meds suddenly...

I really can't wait to hear what the group says about this...

gentle hugs

Clora

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>

> Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've heard

a lot from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading

many of the posts and I know many here are hurting very badly, but

are also taking a boatload of drugs.  Does anyone here feel they

might be overmedicated?  Often, when treated for various problems, it

is unknown exactly what the interaction between all these drugs

actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase the problems

instead of resolving them.  Has anyone here ever dared to back off

the meds and start from scratch again? 

>

> Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's

comfort with their meds.  I'll probably receive a backlash from even

mentioning it.

>

> Brad

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Heide and group;

Heide I walk around with a med list also... Not only will people see

what meds you take they also can tell what conditions you have

through your meds.. (in the event of an emergency)

gentle hugs

Clora

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> Hi Brad,

>

> I don't think you'll receive a backlash from anyone. In fact, I

think many

> of us think about the " what it would be like without these rotten

meds " all

> the time. I'm not going to speak any further for anyone else at

this point

> just on the backlash part :)

>

> I always think about it. I might even be facing losing my Enbrel

if I don't

> get a job, or disability or something to help me pay for it in

2009. Then

> what? Sometimes I wonder if my RA is just a bad dream. Fear

plays a huge

> factor in our meds. Sure we become dependent upon them. For many

people, they

> helped them out of wheelchairs, using canes, or from cane use to

walking

> without! They've gained independence. So, a few side effects vs.

independence,

> normal living....hmmmm. It's truly a personal choice.

>

> That being said, we do need to be conscious of the meds we take

because of

> all the contraindications. One for this, one for that, etc. It

is important

> to create a list on line, that you can easily update after each

Drs.

> appointment and print and take to each Dr. as well so they all

know what you take.

> Never assume your Drs. know what you take. Show them on paper.

For me, I

> can't take Aleve, Ibuprofen, Naproxen, anything like that, as I

have a bleeding

> ulcer, and many allergies to many other meds such as sulfa drugs.

I have to

> walk around with a medication list. I am one who fears going off

my current

> meds. I remember the pain I was in without them. I still have

some pain with

> them, however, it's manageable. At this medication " juncture " I'm

OK with

> what I have.

>

> Heidi in Mass.

>

>

>\

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Interesting question. Not sure how to answer but I'm just on the

beginning of this journey. Diagnosed early September. On on a low

starting dose until the Rheum felt my liver and kidneys would be able

to handle the MTX so in a sense, no. I'm undermedicated. With regard

to Prednisone, I was initially on a short run of 60 MG a day then

after no Pred for a while I was put on 20 MG a day. It took a couple

attempts but I'm now o 15 MG a day but since I believe the MTX is too

low and I have pain and stiffness, while I think I am over medicated

with Prednisone, it's hopefully temporary until the MTX is raised.

I was also put on NSAIDs (Celebrex). I felt with my history of GI

bleeding, it was too risky so have cut back on them myself. So in a

sense, with my history, it could be argued that I was over medicated

but it's a matter of weighing the risk against the reward and Celebrex

is one of the NSAIDs that has a lesser risk of GI bleeding. It was my

GP and not my Rheumy who initially prescribed the Celebrex.

If I can manage my RA and halt the progression of the disease I will

agree to take whatever medication that will do that without hurting me

more than the benefit of managing or stopping the RA. I am in charge

of my own health. Not my Rheumy or GP. I make the final decision as

long as I'm of sound mind and have all the facts to deal with making

the decision. If that means I need to go to a Biologic, and it

doesn't bankrupt my family and my life is better as a result, then I

will do that too when and if the time comes.

Hope that helps.

Bob

--- In , Brad Berg <blueworld_of_fire@...>

wrote:

>

> Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've heard

a lot from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading

many of the posts and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are

also taking a boatload of drugs. Does anyone here feel they might be

overmedicated? Often, when treated for various problems, it is

unknown exactly what the interaction between all these drugs

actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase the problems

instead of resolving them. Has anyone here ever dared to back off the

meds and start from scratch again?

>

> Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's

comfort with their meds. I'll probably receive a backlash from even

mentioning it.

>

> Brad

>

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I made the mistake of mentioning to a friend that I was taking 13 different

medicines. He sharply said " well you're overmedicated then! " . Hummh,

funny, how when I worked with him a few years ago and was taking 12

medications, he never once thought I seemed overmedicated. Sure if I were

taking 13 meds for all the same problems, or taking some of them to deal

with the side effects of others, I might say " yes " , but I have multiple

medical problems. What medicines should I cut out? The ones that keep me

breathing? The ones that keep my blood pressure under control? The ones

that help my allergies? So while I'd like to take less medicians, I'd also

not like to have medical problems. Until those get " cured " , I don't see

much choice.

Darcy

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Brad,

As I've said here before, they would have to pry my Enbrel out of my

cold, dead hands, LOL. Besides Enbrel, I take arthritis-strength

Tylenol for my RA. I have other diseases and conditions that require

medication, too. All of my doctors have a list of all of my

medications, including OTC ones, and would warn me of any interactions.

There are also websites on which you can enter your meds and get a

printout of any interactions.

My rheumy monitors my condition and orders blood work to see if my RA

meds are causing any adverse side effects. So far, there have been

none, thank goodness.

I remember when I couldn't squeeze out a wash cloth, open a jar or

bottle, or cut my own meat. I was having constant unbearable pain. The

quality of my life was not high, and it was easy to get depressed.

Since Enbrel, the pain and inflammation from RA have been under great

control. I realize how lucky I am to have found relief, and I believe

that the RA was treated aggressively from the beginning.

Sue

On Sunday, October 19, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Brad Berg wrote:

> Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated?  Often, when

> treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the

> interaction between all these drugs actually is, and can sometimes

> profoundly increase the problems instead of resolving them.  Has

> anyone here ever dared to back off the meds and start from scratch

> again? 

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Sue and group;

I feel the same way to about my humira injections... they will have

to pry it out of my cold,,, dead hands haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... I use to

think I over did it when I got a cold.... Anihistimines,,,

decongestants.. cough syrup ,, pain relievers... The fleas don't

even bite me anymore haaaaaaaaaa.. they are too afraid..

All kidding aside.. uh never mind I like to kidd haaaaaaaaaaa... I

hope everyone has a pain free day.... God bless and take care... Oh

Take that over medicated off the subject line it upsets us

haaaaaaaaa......

gentle hugs

Clora

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> Brad,

>

> As I've said here before, they would have to pry my Enbrel out of

my

> cold, dead hands, LOL. Besides Enbrel, I take arthritis-strength

> Tylenol for my RA. I have other diseases and conditions that

require

> medication, too. All of my doctors have a list of all of my

> medications, including OTC ones, and would warn me of any

interactions.

> There are also websites on which you can enter your meds and get a

> printout of any interactions.

>

> My rheumy monitors my condition and orders blood work to see if my

RA

> meds are causing any adverse side effects. So far, there have been

> none, thank goodness.

>

> I remember when I couldn't squeeze out a wash cloth, open a jar or

> bottle, or cut my own meat. I was having constant unbearable pain.

The

> quality of my life was not high, and it was easy to get depressed.

> Since Enbrel, the pain and inflammation from RA have been under

great

> control. I realize how lucky I am to have found relief, and I

believe

> that the RA was treated aggressively from the beginning.

>

> Sue

>

> On Sunday, October 19, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Brad Berg wrote:

>

> > Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated?  Often, when

> > treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the

> > interaction between all these drugs actually is, and can

sometimes

> > profoundly increase the problems instead of resolving them.  Has

> > anyone here ever dared to back off the meds and start from

scratch

> > again? 

>

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Hi Brad,

No backlash here either.  My rheumatologist told me when she put me on the meds

that if the pain went away I'd probably be in there asking her if I could go off

from them.  I don't know if it's because she knew I did not like the idea of

taking meds every day or if this is what she gets from most people.  I think if

my blood work would show I was negative for the rheumatoid factor I might try

it.  I recently had blood work done and my anti-ccp is negative now where is was

slightly positive before and my rheumatoid factor is greatly reduced but still

positive.  Is this because of the meds?  I don't know.  I still have pain but am

definitely functional.  And some days, if I eat right, etc. I have no pain. 

I recently went on vacation and forgot my Plaquenil.  I wondered if I should

just forego it and see what happened as I was having no pain at the time.  But I

got nervous and decided I didn't want to become all inflammed, especially on

vacation, so I had my md call in a script to a pharmacy there.

I work in a hospital and treat clients who are suffering from fibro, arthritis,

hepatitis, tendonitis, etc. and I often wonder if these people are over

medicated also.  Sometimes I think they should just get off all that stuff and

start over so I know where you're coming from.

Re: [ ] Are you overmedicated?

Hi Brad,

I don't think you'll receive a backlash from anyone. In fact, I think many

of us think about the " what it would be like without these rotten meds " all

the time. I'm not going to speak any further for anyone else at this point

just on the backlash part :)

I always think about it. I might even be facing losing my Enbrel if I don't

get a job, or disability or something to help me pay for it in 2009. Then

what? Sometimes I wonder if my RA is just a bad dream. Fear plays a huge

factor in our meds. Sure we become dependent upon them. For many people, they

helped them out of wheelchairs, using canes, or from cane use to walking

without! They've gained independence. So, a few side effects vs. independence,

normal living....hmmmm. It's truly a personal choice.

That being said, we do need to be conscious of the meds we take because of

all the contraindications. One for this, one for that, etc. It is important

to create a list on line, that you can easily update after each Drs.

appointment and print and take to each Dr. as well so they all know what you

take.

Never assume your Drs. know what you take. Show them on paper. For me, I

can't take Aleve, Ibuprofen, Naproxen, anything like that, as I have a bleeding

ulcer, and many allergies to many other meds such as sulfa drugs. I have to

walk around with a medication list. I am one who fears going off my current

meds. I remember the pain I was in without them. I still have some pain with

them, however, it's manageable. At this medication " juncture " I'm OK with

what I have.

Heidi in Mass.

In a message dated 10/19/2008 12:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

blueworld_of_ fire (DOT) com writes:

Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've heard a lot

from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading many of the posts

and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are also taking a boatload of

drugs. Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated? Often, when

treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the interaction between

all these drugs actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase the

problems instead of resolving them. Has anyone here ever dared to back off the

meds and start from scratch again?

Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's comfort with

their meds. I'll probably receive a backlash from even mentioning it.

Brad

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Brad,

No backlash from me. When the heart meds were added to my mix of

drugs, I was going to ask my doctor couldn't somethings be

elimnated. I just felt like it was too many. It turned out that I

couldn't take any of the heart meds. I feel what I am taking now, is

my minimum at this point.

I only take Ultra ER for pain when I can not stand it one second

longer. I was give 16 samples in June and I still have 4. They were

give to me after my spine surgery because I can't take codine. The

rest of the time I take Tylenol. It dosen't usually take care of the

pain, but it does help some.

Shirley

> In a message dated 10/19/2008 12:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> blueworld_of_ fire (DOT) com writes:

>

> Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've

heard a lot

> from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading many

of the posts

> and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are also taking a

boatload of

> drugs. Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated? Often,

when

> treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the

interaction between

> all these drugs actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase

the

> problems instead of resolving them. Has anyone here ever dared to

back off the

> meds and start from scratch again?

>

> Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's

comfort with

> their meds. I'll probably receive a backlash from even mentioning

it.

>

> Brad

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

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hello brad, i could not have asked a better question myself..... i've been

SERIOUSLY thinking about talking to my drs. about all

the meds i take. i'm like a walking pharmacy, u name the med i have it. that's

pretty sad, ugh?

i'm not even SURE what meds HELP me.. people ask me all the time what do u take

this for & does it help... i tell them u know

what i don't even know. i've been on soo many meds i'm NOT SURE WHICH ONES WORK!

over medicated i'm pretty SURE

i am....

hope all is well with u. god bless, melyndagamez 10/19/08 7p.m.cdt

[ ] Re: Are you overmedicated?

Brad,

No backlash from me. When the heart meds were added to my mix of

drugs, I was going to ask my doctor couldn't somethings be

elimnated. I just felt like it was too many. It turned out that I

couldn't take any of the heart meds. I feel what I am taking now, is

my minimum at this point.

I only take Ultra ER for pain when I can not stand it one second

longer. I was give 16 samples in June and I still have 4. They were

give to me after my spine surgery because I can't take codine. The

rest of the time I take Tylenol. It dosen't usually take care of the

pain, but it does help some.

Shirley

> In a message dated 10/19/2008 12:29:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> blueworld_of_ fire (DOT) com writes:

>

> Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've

heard a lot

> from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading many

of the posts

> and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are also taking a

boatload of

> drugs. Does anyone here feel they might be overmedicated? Often,

when

> treated for various problems, it is unknown exactly what the

interaction between

> all these drugs actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase

the

> problems instead of resolving them. Has anyone here ever dared to

back off the

> meds and start from scratch again?

>

> Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's

comfort with

> their meds. I'll probably receive a backlash from even mentioning

it.

>

> Brad

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __

>

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Hi Brad and all,

I too have felt over medicated at times. In fact I often call myself a walking

pharmacy. However, I would not know which ones to give up either. I have several

meds for several medical problems. I take meds for allergies, meds for stomach

cancer, meds for the RA, meds for fibromalgia and severe osteoporosis, as well

as clinical depression and sleep disorders. All of which I would gladly give up

if I were able too.

I am a Manager for Burger King and on my feet all of the time. It has been the

MTX injections and Humira that have enabled me to keep my job. Prednisone is a

med that really helps me as well, but for me it is like a special treat I can

give myself on occasion as the bone loss I already have is just to severe. I

took 20 mgs twice a day for about a year until the last bone scan got my Rheumy

attention. :(

I am not saying it is a bad med as it is not, usually bone loss only occurs

after several years. My case was different due to an emergency hysterectomy at

age 30 and the cancer.

Vicki

Iowa

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Hi Brad - no backlash here <G>. There was a time when I asked my

Rheumy why so many medications and he said that sometimes it could

take a combination of 3-4 or more medications to achieve the desired

results. The first thing that came to my mind was " Didn't Elvis die

from an overdose of a combination of drugs? " - of course I kept that

thought to myself. So.....loving the internet as I do, I found a

website that will assist me in checking for drug interactions:

http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.php

As in anything else, these websites are only as good as the person

that has created them and/or the person looking information up on

them. This particular website threw a lot of moderate to severe

reactions my way, but after reading just exactly what the reaction

could be, I found for the most part, keeping up with regular blood

work and reporting any new or undesirable side effects to my Rheumy

was all that was needed.

Hope this answered your question.......Doreen :)

--- In , Brad Berg <blueworld_of_fire@...>

wrote:

Just a thought here and please don't be offended because I've heard a

lot from people who have severe illnesses, but I've been reading many

of the posts and I know many here are hurting very badly, but are also

taking a boatload of drugs.  Does anyone here feel they might be

overmedicated?  Often, when treated for various problems, it is

unknown exactly what the interaction between all these drugs

actually is, and can sometimes profoundly increase the problems

instead of resolving them.  Has anyone here ever dared to back off the

meds and start from scratch again? 

Being somewhat hooked on my ibuprofen I can understand people's

comfort with their meds.  I'll probably receive a backlash from even

mentioning it.

Brad

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Group;

Yes its Doreen that is Mimi... (to her grankids) You know we was

just talking about Elvis a day or so ago.. I told my husband I take

more meds than he did, however,; my meds are life giving meds..

Diabetes, CHF , PAH, Hypertention diseases... RA, Osteo, Fibro,and

Bursitis.. to name just a few.

I have 4 specialist and my primary doctor... I keep my meds in a

list with what doctor I get them from.. In case they needed to be

contacted in the event of an emergency..

We are taking lots of medications, but we are being responsible

patiets that follor our doctors orders,, not bliindly for we do read

up on our diseases and medications we take.. I still think I am just

a little over medicated.. this is when we should discuss it with our

doctors. As you mentioned this is the reason we have test done for

our physisions how ever you spell it lol...

gentle hugs

Clora

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> Hi Brad - no backlash here <G>. There was a time when I asked my

> Rheumy why so many medications and he said that sometimes it could

> take a combination of 3-4 or more medications to achieve the desired

> results. The first thing that came to my mind was " Didn't Elvis die

> from an overdose of a combination of drugs? " - of course I kept that

> thought to myself. So.....loving the internet as I do, I found a

> website that will assist me in checking for drug interactions:

>

> http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.php

>

> As in anything else, these websites are only as good as the person

> that has created them and/or the person looking information up on

> them. This particular website threw a lot of moderate to severe

> reactions my way, but after reading just exactly what the reaction

> could be, I found for the most part, keeping up with regular blood

> work and reporting any new or undesirable side effects to my Rheumy

> was all that was needed.

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Hi Brad and Group!

 

I was recently diagnosed (8/4/08) and since then I have been on Prednisone and I

just gave myself my second Enbrel shot yesterday.  I feel the same way you do! 

I have two more weeks until I can stop taking the Prednisone and see if Enbrel

will work on its own.  I also take daily supplements (fish oil and

multi-vitamin). I am doing every thing I can so I don't have to take as much

medication.  I began the Arthritis Foundation suggested walking program (12

weeks) and finished. My rheumy now wants me to walk on a treadmill 2 miles a

day, 5 times a week (this will increase in time but right now I am at 2 miles). 

This has really helped me!  I also found exercises online that help with morning

stretches and such to help minimize some pain.  These have also worked for me. 

I am 30 and very active.  I know many people in this group have a lot more

health problems than I do. I am lucky I have been able to control this disease

the way I have been. I

don't want to have to go back to the severe pain but I am sure one day my body

will reject a drug and I will be back to the start.  I am a very positive person

and I believe staying positive helps both mentally and physically. I can't is

not in my vocabulary :)

 

My mom was diagnosed with RA at age 16 and has had a lifetime of meds, surgeries

and deformities.  She is now only on 2 meds – mtx and folic acid. She used to

take handfuls of pills and now she only takes 2 and she says she feels the best

she has ever felt. 

 

I am learning everyone is different and has to take/do different meds. I am

happy with my rhuemy for supporting me and letting me take less.

 

From: CLORA <clora4jesus@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Are you overmedicated?

Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:37 AM

Group;

Yes its Doreen that is Mimi... (to her grankids) You know we was

just talking about Elvis a day or so ago.. I told my husband I take

more meds than he did, however,; my meds are life giving meds..

Diabetes, CHF , PAH, Hypertention diseases... RA, Osteo, Fibro,and

Bursitis.. to name just a few.

I have 4 specialist and my primary doctor... I keep my meds in a

list with what doctor I get them from.. In case they needed to be

contacted in the event of an emergency..

We are taking lots of medications, but we are being responsible

patiets that follor our doctors orders,, not bliindly for we do read

up on our diseases and medications we take.. I still think I am just

a little over medicated.. this is when we should discuss it with our

doctors. As you mentioned this is the reason we have test done for

our physisions how ever you spell it lol...

gentle hugs

Clora

************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ****

> Hi Brad - no backlash here <G>. There was a time when I asked my

> Rheumy why so many medications and he said that sometimes it could

> take a combination of 3-4 or more medications to achieve the desired

> results. The first thing that came to my mind was " Didn't Elvis die

> from an overdose of a combination of drugs? " - of course I kept that

> thought to myself. So.....loving the internet as I do, I found a

> website that will assist me in checking for drug interactions:

>

> http://www.drugs. com/drug_ interactions. php

>

> As in anything else, these websites are only as good as the person

> that has created them and/or the person looking information up on

> them. This particular website threw a lot of moderate to severe

> reactions my way, but after reading just exactly what the reaction

> could be, I found for the most part, keeping up with regular blood

> work and reporting any new or undesirable side effects to my Rheumy

> was all that was needed.

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Hi Brad and all,

I also feel like a walking pharmacy since I take at least 18 rx meds

and 6 supplements. Many of my rx meds I take more than once a day. The

meds am taking are for GERD, IBS, thyroid cancer, perimenopause,

hyperlipidemia and allergies. If I could give up any, it would be the

diuretic and the stomach med carafate. Often feel overmedicated also.

Debbie L

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Thanks everyone for your responses and understanding. Another

question - For the " walking pharmacies " out there, many of you seem to

have disease lists as long as your medication lists. Have you found

these to be random " acts of God " that you just come to have these

diseases, or do you think they are related to inflammation of organs

and such caused by RA?

Brad

>

> Hi Brad and all,

>

> I also feel like a walking pharmacy since I take at least 18 rx meds

> and 6 supplements. Many of my rx meds I take more than once a day.

The

> meds am taking are for GERD, IBS, thyroid cancer, perimenopause,

> hyperlipidemia and allergies. If I could give up any, it would be the

> diuretic and the stomach med carafate. Often feel overmedicated also.

> Debbie L

>

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I know My diabetes is an inhertied thing,  Blood pressure is/was stress and

I used to be a smoker.   The gout is also inherited. as My brother also has.   

Not so sure about the RPA( is short for My type of Arthur)

Most of My other problems were cause of Methtrexatew  I think. or were just

plain bad luck.       Pat S Twincities

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From: Brad Berg <blueworld_of_fire@...>

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:15:54 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Are you overmedicated?

Thanks everyone for your responses and understanding. Another

question - For the " walking pharmacies " out there, many of you seem to

have disease lists as long as your medication lists. Have you found

these to be random " acts of God " that you just come to have these

diseases, or do you think they are related to inflammation of organs

and such caused by RA?

Brad

>

> Hi Brad and all,

>

> I also feel like a walking pharmacy since I take at least 18 rx meds

> and 6 supplements. Many of my rx meds I take more than once a day.

The

> meds am taking are for GERD, IBS, thyroid cancer, perimenopause,

> hyperlipidemia and allergies. If I could give up any, it would be the

> diuretic and the stomach med carafate. Often feel overmedicated also.

> Debbie L

>

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Brad,

My illnesses were before my RA, except for my heart. I think it is

just heredity. Both my parents had heart disease. I have had two

sisters die from heart attacks and another sister had bypass surgery

this past July.

Shirley

> >

> > Hi Brad and all,

> >

> > I also feel like a walking pharmacy since I take at least 18 rx

meds

> > and 6 supplements. Many of my rx meds I take more than once a

day.

> The

> > meds am taking are for GERD, IBS, thyroid cancer, perimenopause,

> > hyperlipidemia and allergies. If I could give up any, it would

be the

> > diuretic and the stomach med carafate. Often feel overmedicated

also.

> > Debbie L

> >

>

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No, Brad, my other diseases are not related to RA. I got type 2

diabetes long before I got RA, and also my Fuchs' corneal dystrophy. I

also have a history of migraines, but they predate the RA, too. I was

lucky that I didn't get RA until I was past 60. I have often wondered

if the RA had anything to do with my RA, since my immune system was

busy attacking my joints and was maybe too busy to fight off the

cancer. I don't even know the connection between the immune system and

cancer.

Sue

On Monday, October 20, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Brad Berg wrote:

> Thanks everyone for your responses and understanding. Another

> question - For the " walking pharmacies " out there, many of you seem to

> have disease lists as long as your medication lists. Have you found

> these to be random " acts of God " that you just come to have these

> diseases, or do you think they are related to inflammation of organs

> and such caused by RA?

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