Re: Down as I've ever been

October 22, 2008

Hey Dodge,

I think we've all had that feeling before. It is nice to know that there are

so many people on this list that you can turn to. Sometimes I think you

just have to let it pass, but in the meantime, try to focus on things that make

you smile, silly things, for me, I keep anything or anyone negative far away

from me, even if it means I don't answer a phone call because that person

makes me feel negative......it is what I have to do to feel better....Do

something nice for you. I'm glad you know that we all care.....and I do hope

you

are feeling better very soon. Here is one of my monster sized hugs for

you!!!!

Heidi in Mass

aka Semi Colon

In a message dated 10/22/2008 3:26:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

medicdodge@... writes:

Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This is... Torture.

Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or the rhyme

of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down as I've ever been

or could be. Because of some rather interesting psych symptoms,

antidepressants are not an option for me... You don't want to see me on them,

believe me.

Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my will to

live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time, when all hope for me

seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced, and where my will to live seems

to have gone south, I am doing the only thing I know to do...reaching out to

those who care about me, to those who know me best.

don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the magic pill

or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't know what I seek,

really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your days and

nights are, at least better than mine.

I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish It'd hurry

up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

With Love,

--

Dodge

Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve humility.

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October 22, 2008

Dodge,

Sweetie, I feel so badly for you. Depression is so debilitating and

hard on everyone around you.

You are correct, it will pass. I truly hope it is soon.

Shirley

>

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This

is... Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason

or the rhyme of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as

down as I've ever been or could be. Because of some rather

interesting psych symptoms, antidepressants are not an option for

me... You don't want to see me on them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my

will to live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time,

when all hope for me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced,

and where my will to live seems to have gone south, I am doing the

only thing I know to do...reaching out to those who care about me,

to those who know me best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the

magic pill or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't

know what I seek, really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that

your days and nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish

It'd hurry up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve

humility.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

>

October 22, 2008

D. odge- I am sad to hear your so down. I understand down. I have been

there and up again. It's too bad you can't take anti-depresents.

I just hope your down does last too long. you will be in My thoughts and will

continue to read your blogs. I hope to see some sign that you have made a turn

around. by the way how are things doing with your extended family? Luv,

Pat S. Twincities

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From: Dodge <medicdodge@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:26:23 AM

Subject: [ ] Down as I've ever been

Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This is... Torture.

Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or the rhyme of

it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down as I've ever been or

could be. Because of some rather interesting psych symptoms, antidepressants are

not an option for me... You don't want to see me on them, believe me.

Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my will to live, my

zest for life has deserted me. And in this time, when all hope for me seems to

have been lost, or at least misplaced, and where my will to live seems to have

gone south, I am doing the only thing I know to do...reaching out to those who

care about me, to those who know me best.

don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the magic pill or

even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't know what I seek, really.

Caring, compassion, wisdom...

Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your days and

nights are, at least better than mine.

I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish It'd hurry up

and get it over with. I have a life to live.

With Love,

--

Dodge

Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve humility.

Read my blog at:

http://jumpthis. wordpress. com

October 22, 2008

Dodge,

I hope you'll be feeling much better very soon.

Not an MD

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Dodge <medicdodge@...> wrote:

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This is...

> Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or the rhyme

> of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down as I've ever been

> or could be. Because of some rather interesting psych symptoms,

> antidepressants are not an option for me... You don't want to see me on

> them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my will to

> live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time, when all hope for

> me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced, and where my will to live

> seems to have gone south, I am doing the only thing I know to do...reaching

> out to those who care about me, to those who know me best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the magic pill

> or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't know what I seek,

> really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your days and

> nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish It'd hurry

> up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

October 22, 2008

Dodge,

Sorry to read this and I can say I do know how you feel. For me, I'm

finding that some of the drugs, particularly the Prednisone, is

messing with my TSH levels (thyroid) and it may mean that I need an

adjustment of my levothyroxine. You may or may not have had thyroid

issues in the past but the standards around what is a normal TSH has

changed by the Endochronology people and they are finding even a

subclinical increase in TSH can bring on symptoms of depression. Just

a thought if you haven't had you're checked recently.

Hope things turn around for you.

Be well.

Bob

>

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This

is... Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or

the rhyme of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down

as I've ever been or could be. Because of some rather interesting

psych symptoms, antidepressants are not an option for me... You don't

want to see me on them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my

will to live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time,

when all hope for me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced,

and where my will to live seems to have gone south, I am doing the

only thing I know to do...reaching out to those who care about me, to

those who know me best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the

magic pill or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't

know what I seek, really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your

days and nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish

It'd hurry up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve

humility.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

>

October 22, 2008

Re: Thyroid...

I was on synthroid for approx 20 years. My lab tests showed improvement.

My symptoms did not jive with the lab tests. It was suggested I go on Armour

Thyroid instead of the synthetic version. My mood vastly improved. I have more

energy...etc.

The synthetic version improved my lab work. The natural improved my life.

Approx 12 dollars a month.

Keep up thr faith Dodge. There will be an answer around the corner.

Raniolo

From: fullwave2 <w8nyy.1@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Down as I've ever been

Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 8:54 AM

Dodge,

Sorry to read this and I can say I do know how you feel. For me, I'm

finding that some of the drugs, particularly the Prednisone, is

messing with my TSH levels (thyroid) and it may mean that I need an

adjustment of my levothyroxine. You may or may not have had thyroid

issues in the past but the standards around what is a normal TSH has

changed by the Endochronology people and they are finding even a

subclinical increase in TSH can bring on symptoms of depression. Just

a thought if you haven't had you're checked recently.

Hope things turn around for you.

Be well.

Bob

>

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This

is... Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or

the rhyme of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down

as I've ever been or could be. Because of some rather interesting

psych symptoms, antidepressants are not an option for me... You don't

want to see me on them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my

will to live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time,

when all hope for me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced,

and where my will to live seems to have gone south, I am doing the

only thing I know to do...reaching out to those who care about me, to

those who know me best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the

magic pill or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't

know what I seek, really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your

days and nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish

It'd hurry up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve

humility.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis. wordpress. com

>

October 22, 2008

Hi Dodge: Yours is the first post I have read this morning, and I feel

so badly that you feel so alone, and unloved. You have to realize, we

all love you here, and do care very much how you are feeling, both

mentally and physically. Why these feelings appear, who knows. I wish

I had a magic pill or cure to help you out of these bad feeling days.

All I know, is life is for the living. All we can do is the best we can

do for ourselves each day. Life is not smooth sailing.

I don't know if you see someone professionally for your depression or

not. If not, I think it would be good to call a mental health facility,

and see if you could talk, or see someone soon. If you already have a

dr. in this field, then I would def. call him/her and tell them how you

are feeling right now. Humans need each other, and that is why all of

here are in this wonderful group of caring, loving people. I am glad

you posted your troubles, and are reaching out to all of us.

I hate feeling like you do, and I hate feeling so down and depressed. I

have been there several times in my life, and it is so damn frightening

and you feel so alone. Well, you are never alone here in our group. We

all are here for you, and always will be. Right now I am sending you a

loving hug, and a shoulder to lean on. I hope you can feel it. I care

very much how you feel right now, and I can feel your terrible sadness.

When I have been in that terrible place you are in, and I have been, you

feel so alone, and life it too hard to bear. I had to reach out to my

best friend, and I hated to bother her. Well, she said I was no bother

to her. I did see a dr., got some meds. to take for a short time. I

did seek out professional help, and I have always been so glad that I

did that for myself. I just took things minute by minute, as that was

all I could handle then. When I read your letter, I knew exactly how

you are feeling. It is very scarey to me to be in that bad place of

desperation.

I don't know where you live, but anytime I can get to the ocean, water,

etc. that gives me total peace and calmness. I also love nature, and

loved to walk, to clear my head, and smell that great air.

I hope that you can feel a little better today, and I hope you seek the

help you need right now. I know how hard it is to write a letter, and

bear your heart and soul. I care very much about you, and I am praying

extra that you will soon be feeling so much better. I wish I had the

answers so I could really help you through this rough spot in your life.

May God Bless you, especially at this difficult time right now.

I care very much how you are feeling.

Hugs,

Barbara

>

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This is...

Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or the

rhyme of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down as I've

ever been or could be. Because of some rather interesting psych

symptoms, antidepressants are not an option for me... You don't want to

see me on them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my will

to live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time, when all

hope for me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced, and where my

will to live seems to have gone south, I am doing the only thing I know

to do...reaching out to those who care about me, to those who know me

best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the magic

pill or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't know what

I seek, really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your

days and nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish It'd

hurry up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve

humility.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

>

October 22, 2008

Dodge sweetie, I am so sorry that you are hurting.To me, mental and

emotional pain are way worse than physical. Sending love, hugs,and

prayers your way. I know that there are brighter days ahead, hang in

there and keep on truckin.

Jane in Dallas

>

> Ok, so I thought I was depressed, and I was...but this... This

is... Torture.

>

> Don't know why. Don't know what it is... Don't know the reason or

the rhyme of it. All I know is that it is and I'm, I think, as down

as I've ever been or could be. Because of some rather interesting

psych symptoms, antidepressants are not an option for me... You

don't want to see me on them, believe me.

>

> Am I suicidal? Nope. Don't believe in it. But I can say that my

will to live, my zest for life has deserted me. And in this time,

when all hope for me seems to have been lost, or at least misplaced,

and where my will to live seems to have gone south, I am doing the

only thing I know to do...reaching out to those who care about me, to

those who know me best.

>

> don't worry. I'm not expecting you to have the magic answer, the

magic pill or even the magic bullet, I'm too wise for that. I don't

know what I seek, really. Caring, compassion, wisdom...

>

> Anyway, you are all in my thoughts and prayers and I hope that your

days and nights are, at least better than mine.

>

> I know that this will pass just like it always does. I just wish

It'd hurry up and get it over with. I have a life to live.

>

> With Love,

>

> --

> Dodge

>

> Let me deal with honor. Let me act with courage. Let me achieve

humility.

>

> Read my blog at:

> http://jumpthis.wordpress.com

>

October 22, 2008

Dodge, I don't know who you are, but it some way, I believe I feel some of your

pain. Is it physical pain that has taken away your zest for life? Sometimes I

feel the rhyme and think I know the reason but become stagnet to it. Feeling

like something needs to be done but the ability and the strength are lost. It

is then that I try to think of something that makes me happy. Sometimes it

works and sometimes is doesn't. Do you know a song that makes you happy?

Listen to it.

It worked for me once today so far.

From: Dodge <medicdodge@...>

Subject: [ ] Down as I've ever been

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Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 3:26 AM