RE: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

[Guest guest]

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Your ressponse has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone. You don't have to be so critical to get your point accross. I'm on this board to learn, not to be insulted.

So, if you don't have Hashi's, just hypothyroidism, your thyroid can take up the iodine, but if you do have hashi's it can't?

According to Dr. Derry, the thyroid soaks up all the iodine until it becomes saturated then the rest goes into other tissues. You need to saturate the thyroid so that it can get into other tissues in the body in order to prevent cancer.

Dr. Derry is highly praised on this and other boards, so I pay attention to his writings. I'm the one that just had a lump removed, so I'm highly interested in preventing breast cancer. Right now, the docs say there's a slim chance it's not malignant, but there is a chance. That's why I got the book. I was surprised to find so much on the thyroid in it.... not stuff that is necessarily new to me, but well referenced stuff. I know there was some disagreement here on iodine a while back, but I thought it was mostly opinions, not knowledge. I can't remember. Guess I'll have to search the archives, a slow process with 28bps connection speed.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Here are somethings from about.com.

Iodine and the Thyroid

From Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease.

by Shomon

Iodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

produce thyroid hormones.

Three iodine molecules are added to make T3 (triiodothyronine), and

four for T4 (thyroxine) -- the two key hormones produced by the

thyroid gland -- so iodine is essential to the production of these

two hormones of the master gland of metabolism.

One needs the proper amount of iodine for optimal thyroid function.

A severe iodine deficiency can cause hypothyroidism, and even

developmental brain disorders and severe goiter. Less severe iodine

deficiency is linked to hypothyroidism, thyroid enlargement (goiter)

and hyperthyroidism. At the other end of the spectrum, excessive

iodine intake -- both severe and moderate -- is also associated with

hypothyroidism and goiter.

Iodine Deficiency

There are many areas around the world where soils are deficient in

iodine, and iodine must be added to the diet -- usually through

iodized salt. In the U.S., for example, the area around the Great

Lakes used to be known as the goiter belt because the soil is

particular iodine-deficient, and this resulted in higher incidence of

goiter among residents of the area. Earlier in the 20th century,

however, iodized salt almost wiped out iodine deficiency in the U.S.

entirely.

Other countries have not had such concerted iodization programs. In

1999, global health experts announced that iodine deficiency

continues to be a serious threat to global health. Insufficient

iodine is, in fact, considered is the most common -- yet also most

preventable -- cause of brain damage throughout the world, with 1.6

billion people at risk.

Children with iodine deficiency and its resulting hypothyroidism can

suffer from stunted growth, with mental retardation and problems in

movement, speech or hearing. Worldwide, iodine deficiency actually

affects some 50 million children. When a woman with iodine deficiency

becomes pregnant, she risks miscarriage, stillbirth and mental

retardation in her baby. Even what's considered a mild iodine

deficiency can hamper the growth of children's brains, reduce their

IQ, and cause learning disabilities. The World Health Organization

estimates that some 1 billion people around the world are at risk of

health problems due to iodine deficiency. In Latin America and the

Caribbean, for example, as many as 25 percent of the population -- a

total of almost 200 million people -- are at greater risk of goiter,

at minimum.

While iodine deficiency was not common in the U.S., it is again on

the rise here as well. The first National Health and Nutrition

Examination Survey (NHANES I), which took place between 1971 - 1974,

found that just 2.6% of US citizens had iodine deficiency. The

followup NHANES III survey, conducted between 1988 - 1994, found that

11.7% are iodine deficient. The October, 1998 issue of the Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism reported that over the previous

20 years, the percentage of Americans with low intake of iodine has

more than quadrupled. Of particular concern is the fact that the

percentage of iodine-deficient pregnant women has increased from 1%

in 1974 to 7% in 1994. Maternal iodine deficiency is particularly

dangerous to a developing fetus. The researchers do not have a cause

for the drop in levels, though it is suspected that reduced salt in

the diet, plus a reduction in the use of iodine as a food ingredient,

may be responsible. This trend, however, may necessitate concerted

efforts to increase iodine levels in people at risk of deficiency

even in the U.S.

What About Iodine Supplementation?

The relationship between iodine and the thyroid is complicated. Some

alternative practitioners simplistically declare that all thyroid

patients should take iodine -- or an iodine-containing herb like

kelp.

That practice can be problematic for many people, because many cases

of autoimmune thyroid disease -- which is by far the most common

cause of thyroid conditions in the U.S. -- are not due to iodine

deficiency. The likelihood that your thyroid problem is caused by

iodine deficiency is a factor of your geographic location, diet, and

use of salt and iodized products, but the odds are, you are not

iodine deficient.

Your physician or nutritionist can test your iodine levels via a

urinalysis test, if you wish to be evaluated. If, like many patients,

you decide on your own to try kelp, iodine, or one of the many

thyroid-supporting supplements (almost all of them contain high

amounts of iodine or kelp), to see if they can help you, be aware of

the risks. A percentage of patients are very sensitive to iodine/kelp

supplementation, and find that it aggravates their thyroid problem.

Personally, I'm one of those people who simply does not do well with

much in the way of supplemental iodine. I do fine with food that

contain iodine -- such as seaweed or seafood. In fact, I periodically

find myself craving sushi and a good seaweed salad, and can eat it

with no after-effects whatsoever. But the several times I have tried

iodine or kelp supplementation in any form -- beyond the very small

amounts of iodine contained in some supplements -- I have had what I

call an " iodine crash. "

Within a day, I noticed my thyroid enlarging slightly (goiter), and

feeling tender. Within three days, I became exhausted and achy all

over my body. Most of the thyroid support supplements have high

amounts of iodine, or kelp, claiming that these are essential

nutrients for the thyroid. Be careful -- they may be a help to you,

but like me, you may also be sensitive to supplemental iodine in pill

form, and find yourself having an iodine crash.

Some people are so sensitive to iodine that they really shouldn't

even take the small amount of iodine you would find in most

multivitamins. For that group, there are several supplements that

contain no iodine (they also happen to contain no iron as well, which

means they can safely be taken at the same time as your thyroid

medications.) (Note: if you are taking iron supplements, you need to

take them at least 3 to 4 hours apart from your thyroid medication.)

Note: If you would like more information on multivitamins without

iodine, click here.

Source: Laurberg P, et. al. " Environmental iodine intake affects the

type of nonmalignant thyroid disease, " Thyroid. 2001 May;11(5):457-69

-------------------------

Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES) Group and Site

Launched

Thyroid Newsroom / From Shomon Your Thyroid Guide

Feb. 18, 2002 -- Thyroid patients and medical practitioners worldwide

have been following with interest the developing legal battle of Dr.

Derry, MD, PhD, of , BC, Canada against the attacks of

an unaccountable regulatory agency. The case is gathering increasing

attention, as it involves some of the same abuses of power that have

triggered in-depth investigative reporting by Canadian newspapers,

radio, television, and magazines into the behaviour of these

regulatory bodies.

A new website, www.bites-medical.org, has just been announced by the

Board of the Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES).

This site provides information about:

Dr. Derry, his medical training, research background, and clinical

experience

the history of the legal battle, including what was used to launch

the attack on this physician with a 30-year unblemished record

the goals, governing board, and membership of BITES

the role of BITES in supporting Dr. Derry in his fight

how we may join in the battle

how patients can educate the general public about the crisis of

inadequate thyroid treatment in Canada and in other countries

The new site also offers up-to-the-minute reporting of Dr. Derry's

legal battle, an overview of Dr. Derry's proposed theory of breast

cancer development that demonstrates how breast cancer can

potentially be slowed or even reversed using optimum doses of thyroid

and iodine, and responses to questions from hundreds of patients and

colleagues who have asked specifically how they may contribute to Dr.

Derry's legal defense.

For more information, see:

Home page and about BITES, including how and why to join

Dr. Derry: History, Letters, What You Can Do, and Legal Fund

Breast Cancer / Thyroid

Hypothyroidism

For more information about Dr. Derry, read:

Dr. Derry Re: TSH Tests

Canadian Dr. Derry Under Attack

Dr. Derry Fights Back

here is the link to the above story:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/news/blbites.htm

[Guest guest]

Here are somethings from about.com.

Iodine and the Thyroid

From Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease.

by Shomon

Iodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

produce thyroid hormones.

Three iodine molecules are added to make T3 (triiodothyronine), and

four for T4 (thyroxine) -- the two key hormones produced by the

thyroid gland -- so iodine is essential to the production of these

two hormones of the master gland of metabolism.

One needs the proper amount of iodine for optimal thyroid function.

A severe iodine deficiency can cause hypothyroidism, and even

developmental brain disorders and severe goiter. Less severe iodine

deficiency is linked to hypothyroidism, thyroid enlargement (goiter)

and hyperthyroidism. At the other end of the spectrum, excessive

iodine intake -- both severe and moderate -- is also associated with

hypothyroidism and goiter.

Iodine Deficiency

There are many areas around the world where soils are deficient in

iodine, and iodine must be added to the diet -- usually through

iodized salt. In the U.S., for example, the area around the Great

Lakes used to be known as the goiter belt because the soil is

particular iodine-deficient, and this resulted in higher incidence of

goiter among residents of the area. Earlier in the 20th century,

however, iodized salt almost wiped out iodine deficiency in the U.S.

entirely.

Other countries have not had such concerted iodization programs. In

1999, global health experts announced that iodine deficiency

continues to be a serious threat to global health. Insufficient

iodine is, in fact, considered is the most common -- yet also most

preventable -- cause of brain damage throughout the world, with 1.6

billion people at risk.

Children with iodine deficiency and its resulting hypothyroidism can

suffer from stunted growth, with mental retardation and problems in

movement, speech or hearing. Worldwide, iodine deficiency actually

affects some 50 million children. When a woman with iodine deficiency

becomes pregnant, she risks miscarriage, stillbirth and mental

retardation in her baby. Even what's considered a mild iodine

deficiency can hamper the growth of children's brains, reduce their

IQ, and cause learning disabilities. The World Health Organization

estimates that some 1 billion people around the world are at risk of

health problems due to iodine deficiency. In Latin America and the

Caribbean, for example, as many as 25 percent of the population -- a

total of almost 200 million people -- are at greater risk of goiter,

at minimum.

While iodine deficiency was not common in the U.S., it is again on

the rise here as well. The first National Health and Nutrition

Examination Survey (NHANES I), which took place between 1971 - 1974,

found that just 2.6% of US citizens had iodine deficiency. The

followup NHANES III survey, conducted between 1988 - 1994, found that

11.7% are iodine deficient. The October, 1998 issue of the Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism reported that over the previous

20 years, the percentage of Americans with low intake of iodine has

more than quadrupled. Of particular concern is the fact that the

percentage of iodine-deficient pregnant women has increased from 1%

in 1974 to 7% in 1994. Maternal iodine deficiency is particularly

dangerous to a developing fetus. The researchers do not have a cause

for the drop in levels, though it is suspected that reduced salt in

the diet, plus a reduction in the use of iodine as a food ingredient,

may be responsible. This trend, however, may necessitate concerted

efforts to increase iodine levels in people at risk of deficiency

even in the U.S.

What About Iodine Supplementation?

The relationship between iodine and the thyroid is complicated. Some

alternative practitioners simplistically declare that all thyroid

patients should take iodine -- or an iodine-containing herb like

kelp.

That practice can be problematic for many people, because many cases

of autoimmune thyroid disease -- which is by far the most common

cause of thyroid conditions in the U.S. -- are not due to iodine

deficiency. The likelihood that your thyroid problem is caused by

iodine deficiency is a factor of your geographic location, diet, and

use of salt and iodized products, but the odds are, you are not

iodine deficient.

Your physician or nutritionist can test your iodine levels via a

urinalysis test, if you wish to be evaluated. If, like many patients,

you decide on your own to try kelp, iodine, or one of the many

thyroid-supporting supplements (almost all of them contain high

amounts of iodine or kelp), to see if they can help you, be aware of

the risks. A percentage of patients are very sensitive to iodine/kelp

supplementation, and find that it aggravates their thyroid problem.

Personally, I'm one of those people who simply does not do well with

much in the way of supplemental iodine. I do fine with food that

contain iodine -- such as seaweed or seafood. In fact, I periodically

find myself craving sushi and a good seaweed salad, and can eat it

with no after-effects whatsoever. But the several times I have tried

iodine or kelp supplementation in any form -- beyond the very small

amounts of iodine contained in some supplements -- I have had what I

call an " iodine crash. "

Within a day, I noticed my thyroid enlarging slightly (goiter), and

feeling tender. Within three days, I became exhausted and achy all

over my body. Most of the thyroid support supplements have high

amounts of iodine, or kelp, claiming that these are essential

nutrients for the thyroid. Be careful -- they may be a help to you,

but like me, you may also be sensitive to supplemental iodine in pill

form, and find yourself having an iodine crash.

Some people are so sensitive to iodine that they really shouldn't

even take the small amount of iodine you would find in most

multivitamins. For that group, there are several supplements that

contain no iodine (they also happen to contain no iron as well, which

means they can safely be taken at the same time as your thyroid

medications.) (Note: if you are taking iron supplements, you need to

take them at least 3 to 4 hours apart from your thyroid medication.)

Note: If you would like more information on multivitamins without

iodine, click here.

Source: Laurberg P, et. al. " Environmental iodine intake affects the

type of nonmalignant thyroid disease, " Thyroid. 2001 May;11(5):457-69

-------------------------

Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES) Group and Site

Launched

Thyroid Newsroom / From Shomon Your Thyroid Guide

Feb. 18, 2002 -- Thyroid patients and medical practitioners worldwide

have been following with interest the developing legal battle of Dr.

Derry, MD, PhD, of , BC, Canada against the attacks of

an unaccountable regulatory agency. The case is gathering increasing

attention, as it involves some of the same abuses of power that have

triggered in-depth investigative reporting by Canadian newspapers,

radio, television, and magazines into the behaviour of these

regulatory bodies.

A new website, www.bites-medical.org, has just been announced by the

Board of the Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES).

This site provides information about:

Dr. Derry, his medical training, research background, and clinical

experience

the history of the legal battle, including what was used to launch

the attack on this physician with a 30-year unblemished record

the goals, governing board, and membership of BITES

the role of BITES in supporting Dr. Derry in his fight

how we may join in the battle

how patients can educate the general public about the crisis of

inadequate thyroid treatment in Canada and in other countries

The new site also offers up-to-the-minute reporting of Dr. Derry's

legal battle, an overview of Dr. Derry's proposed theory of breast

cancer development that demonstrates how breast cancer can

potentially be slowed or even reversed using optimum doses of thyroid

and iodine, and responses to questions from hundreds of patients and

colleagues who have asked specifically how they may contribute to Dr.

Derry's legal defense.

For more information, see:

Home page and about BITES, including how and why to join

Dr. Derry: History, Letters, What You Can Do, and Legal Fund

Breast Cancer / Thyroid

Hypothyroidism

For more information about Dr. Derry, read:

Dr. Derry Re: TSH Tests

Canadian Dr. Derry Under Attack

Dr. Derry Fights Back

here is the link to the above story:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/news/blbites.htm

[Guest guest]

Here are somethings from about.com.

Iodine and the Thyroid

From Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease.

by Shomon

Iodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

produce thyroid hormones.

Three iodine molecules are added to make T3 (triiodothyronine), and

four for T4 (thyroxine) -- the two key hormones produced by the

thyroid gland -- so iodine is essential to the production of these

two hormones of the master gland of metabolism.

One needs the proper amount of iodine for optimal thyroid function.

A severe iodine deficiency can cause hypothyroidism, and even

developmental brain disorders and severe goiter. Less severe iodine

deficiency is linked to hypothyroidism, thyroid enlargement (goiter)

and hyperthyroidism. At the other end of the spectrum, excessive

iodine intake -- both severe and moderate -- is also associated with

hypothyroidism and goiter.

Iodine Deficiency

There are many areas around the world where soils are deficient in

iodine, and iodine must be added to the diet -- usually through

iodized salt. In the U.S., for example, the area around the Great

Lakes used to be known as the goiter belt because the soil is

particular iodine-deficient, and this resulted in higher incidence of

goiter among residents of the area. Earlier in the 20th century,

however, iodized salt almost wiped out iodine deficiency in the U.S.

entirely.

Other countries have not had such concerted iodization programs. In

1999, global health experts announced that iodine deficiency

continues to be a serious threat to global health. Insufficient

iodine is, in fact, considered is the most common -- yet also most

preventable -- cause of brain damage throughout the world, with 1.6

billion people at risk.

Children with iodine deficiency and its resulting hypothyroidism can

suffer from stunted growth, with mental retardation and problems in

movement, speech or hearing. Worldwide, iodine deficiency actually

affects some 50 million children. When a woman with iodine deficiency

becomes pregnant, she risks miscarriage, stillbirth and mental

retardation in her baby. Even what's considered a mild iodine

deficiency can hamper the growth of children's brains, reduce their

IQ, and cause learning disabilities. The World Health Organization

estimates that some 1 billion people around the world are at risk of

health problems due to iodine deficiency. In Latin America and the

Caribbean, for example, as many as 25 percent of the population -- a

total of almost 200 million people -- are at greater risk of goiter,

at minimum.

While iodine deficiency was not common in the U.S., it is again on

the rise here as well. The first National Health and Nutrition

Examination Survey (NHANES I), which took place between 1971 - 1974,

found that just 2.6% of US citizens had iodine deficiency. The

followup NHANES III survey, conducted between 1988 - 1994, found that

11.7% are iodine deficient. The October, 1998 issue of the Journal of

Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism reported that over the previous

20 years, the percentage of Americans with low intake of iodine has

more than quadrupled. Of particular concern is the fact that the

percentage of iodine-deficient pregnant women has increased from 1%

in 1974 to 7% in 1994. Maternal iodine deficiency is particularly

dangerous to a developing fetus. The researchers do not have a cause

for the drop in levels, though it is suspected that reduced salt in

the diet, plus a reduction in the use of iodine as a food ingredient,

may be responsible. This trend, however, may necessitate concerted

efforts to increase iodine levels in people at risk of deficiency

even in the U.S.

What About Iodine Supplementation?

The relationship between iodine and the thyroid is complicated. Some

alternative practitioners simplistically declare that all thyroid

patients should take iodine -- or an iodine-containing herb like

kelp.

That practice can be problematic for many people, because many cases

of autoimmune thyroid disease -- which is by far the most common

cause of thyroid conditions in the U.S. -- are not due to iodine

deficiency. The likelihood that your thyroid problem is caused by

iodine deficiency is a factor of your geographic location, diet, and

use of salt and iodized products, but the odds are, you are not

iodine deficient.

Your physician or nutritionist can test your iodine levels via a

urinalysis test, if you wish to be evaluated. If, like many patients,

you decide on your own to try kelp, iodine, or one of the many

thyroid-supporting supplements (almost all of them contain high

amounts of iodine or kelp), to see if they can help you, be aware of

the risks. A percentage of patients are very sensitive to iodine/kelp

supplementation, and find that it aggravates their thyroid problem.

Personally, I'm one of those people who simply does not do well with

much in the way of supplemental iodine. I do fine with food that

contain iodine -- such as seaweed or seafood. In fact, I periodically

find myself craving sushi and a good seaweed salad, and can eat it

with no after-effects whatsoever. But the several times I have tried

iodine or kelp supplementation in any form -- beyond the very small

amounts of iodine contained in some supplements -- I have had what I

call an " iodine crash. "

Within a day, I noticed my thyroid enlarging slightly (goiter), and

feeling tender. Within three days, I became exhausted and achy all

over my body. Most of the thyroid support supplements have high

amounts of iodine, or kelp, claiming that these are essential

nutrients for the thyroid. Be careful -- they may be a help to you,

but like me, you may also be sensitive to supplemental iodine in pill

form, and find yourself having an iodine crash.

Some people are so sensitive to iodine that they really shouldn't

even take the small amount of iodine you would find in most

multivitamins. For that group, there are several supplements that

contain no iodine (they also happen to contain no iron as well, which

means they can safely be taken at the same time as your thyroid

medications.) (Note: if you are taking iron supplements, you need to

take them at least 3 to 4 hours apart from your thyroid medication.)

Note: If you would like more information on multivitamins without

iodine, click here.

Source: Laurberg P, et. al. " Environmental iodine intake affects the

type of nonmalignant thyroid disease, " Thyroid. 2001 May;11(5):457-69

-------------------------

Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES) Group and Site

Launched

Thyroid Newsroom / From Shomon Your Thyroid Guide

Feb. 18, 2002 -- Thyroid patients and medical practitioners worldwide

have been following with interest the developing legal battle of Dr.

Derry, MD, PhD, of , BC, Canada against the attacks of

an unaccountable regulatory agency. The case is gathering increasing

attention, as it involves some of the same abuses of power that have

triggered in-depth investigative reporting by Canadian newspapers,

radio, television, and magazines into the behaviour of these

regulatory bodies.

A new website, www.bites-medical.org, has just been announced by the

Board of the Breast Iodine Thyroid Effectiveness Society (BITES).

This site provides information about:

Dr. Derry, his medical training, research background, and clinical

experience

the history of the legal battle, including what was used to launch

the attack on this physician with a 30-year unblemished record

the goals, governing board, and membership of BITES

the role of BITES in supporting Dr. Derry in his fight

how we may join in the battle

how patients can educate the general public about the crisis of

inadequate thyroid treatment in Canada and in other countries

The new site also offers up-to-the-minute reporting of Dr. Derry's

legal battle, an overview of Dr. Derry's proposed theory of breast

cancer development that demonstrates how breast cancer can

potentially be slowed or even reversed using optimum doses of thyroid

and iodine, and responses to questions from hundreds of patients and

colleagues who have asked specifically how they may contribute to Dr.

Derry's legal defense.

For more information, see:

Home page and about BITES, including how and why to join

Dr. Derry: History, Letters, What You Can Do, and Legal Fund

Breast Cancer / Thyroid

Hypothyroidism

For more information about Dr. Derry, read:

Dr. Derry Re: TSH Tests

Canadian Dr. Derry Under Attack

Dr. Derry Fights Back

here is the link to the above story:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/news/blbites.htm

[Guest guest]

Just an fyi My best friend had a lumpectomy, radiation and chemo for cancer

4 years ago and is doing well.

>

>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones ,

>The_Thyroid_Support_Group , WmnsHormones

>Subject: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:01:18 -0500

>

>Hi all!

> I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading

>most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am.

>Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not

>malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little

>light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

> I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' " Breast Cancer &

>Iodine. " It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in

>a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement.

>Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are

>other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

>Blessings,

>Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Just an fyi My best friend had a lumpectomy, radiation and chemo for cancer

4 years ago and is doing well.

>

>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones ,

>The_Thyroid_Support_Group , WmnsHormones

>Subject: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:01:18 -0500

>

>Hi all!

> I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading

>most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am.

>Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not

>malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little

>light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

> I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' " Breast Cancer &

>Iodine. " It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in

>a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement.

>Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are

>other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

>Blessings,

>Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Just an fyi My best friend had a lumpectomy, radiation and chemo for cancer

4 years ago and is doing well.

>

>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group

>To: NaturalThyroidHormones ,

>The_Thyroid_Support_Group , WmnsHormones

>Subject: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

>Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:01:18 -0500

>

>Hi all!

> I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading

>most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am.

>Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not

>malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little

>light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

> I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' " Breast Cancer &

>Iodine. " It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in

>a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement.

>Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are

>other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

>Blessings,

>Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Interesting, Maybe I should wait until I see Dr. Milton.

-----Original Message-----From: LestatL382@... Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:06 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's IodineHere are somethings from about.com. Iodine and the ThyroidFrom Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease. by ShomonIodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

[Guest guest]

Interesting, Maybe I should wait until I see Dr. Milton.

-----Original Message-----From: LestatL382@... Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:06 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's IodineHere are somethings from about.com. Iodine and the ThyroidFrom Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease. by ShomonIodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

[Guest guest]

Interesting, Maybe I should wait until I see Dr. Milton.

-----Original Message-----From: LestatL382@... Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:06 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's IodineHere are somethings from about.com. Iodine and the ThyroidFrom Shomon,Your Guide to Thyroid Disease. by ShomonIodine is an essential element that enables the thyroid gland to

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jamy,

They said I will not have to have the radiation or chemo. But that makes me fell better anyway.

Blessings

-----Original Message-----From: JAMY Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 9:37 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: RE: Lumpectomy_Lugol's IodineJust an fyi My best friend had a lumpectomy, radiation and chemo for cancer 4 years ago and is doing well.>>Reply-To: The_Thyroid_Support_Group >To: NaturalThyroidHormones ,

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[Guest guest]

Let's remember, that we all are here learning and sharing our own experiences. We all are experts here on ourselves, and a lot of the time, we know ourselves a lot better than the docs do----Topper's history is a prime example.

's response seemed to me to be the loving response of someone who has done her homework and does not want others to suffer , as all of us on this board do want to ease suffering.Debbie, you have given some good insights as well....

hugs

Feisty

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

Your response has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone.

[Guest guest]

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

Your response has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone.

[Guest guest]

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

Your response has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone.

[Guest guest]

opps! I just reread my post. It should read " the doctors say there's a slim chance it's malignant" not "a slim chance it not malignant"

RE: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Your ressponse has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone. You don't have to be so critical to get your point accross. I'm on this board to learn, not to be insulted.

So, if you don't have Hashi's, just hypothyroidism, your thyroid can take up the iodine, but if you do have hashi's it can't?

According to Dr. Derry, the thyroid soaks up all the iodine until it becomes saturated then the rest goes into other tissues. You need to saturate the thyroid so that it can get into other tissues in the body in order to prevent cancer.

Dr. Derry is highly praised on this and other boards, so I pay attention to his writings. I'm the one that just had a lump removed, so I'm highly interested in preventing breast cancer. Right now, the docs say there's a slim chance it's not malignant, but there is a chance. That's why I got the book. I was surprised to find so much on the thyroid in it.... not stuff that is necessarily new to me, but well referenced stuff. I know there was some disagreement here on iodine a while back, but I thought it was mostly opinions, not knowledge. I can't remember. Guess I'll have to search the archives, a slow process with 28bps connection speed.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

[Guest guest]

opps! I just reread my post. It should read " the doctors say there's a slim chance it's malignant" not "a slim chance it not malignant"

RE: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Your ressponse has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone. You don't have to be so critical to get your point accross. I'm on this board to learn, not to be insulted.

So, if you don't have Hashi's, just hypothyroidism, your thyroid can take up the iodine, but if you do have hashi's it can't?

According to Dr. Derry, the thyroid soaks up all the iodine until it becomes saturated then the rest goes into other tissues. You need to saturate the thyroid so that it can get into other tissues in the body in order to prevent cancer.

Dr. Derry is highly praised on this and other boards, so I pay attention to his writings. I'm the one that just had a lump removed, so I'm highly interested in preventing breast cancer. Right now, the docs say there's a slim chance it's not malignant, but there is a chance. That's why I got the book. I was surprised to find so much on the thyroid in it.... not stuff that is necessarily new to me, but well referenced stuff. I know there was some disagreement here on iodine a while back, but I thought it was mostly opinions, not knowledge. I can't remember. Guess I'll have to search the archives, a slow process with 28bps connection speed.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

[Guest guest]

opps! I just reread my post. It should read " the doctors say there's a slim chance it's malignant" not "a slim chance it not malignant"

RE: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Your ressponse has a your-stupid,-I'm-smart tone. You don't have to be so critical to get your point accross. I'm on this board to learn, not to be insulted.

So, if you don't have Hashi's, just hypothyroidism, your thyroid can take up the iodine, but if you do have hashi's it can't?

According to Dr. Derry, the thyroid soaks up all the iodine until it becomes saturated then the rest goes into other tissues. You need to saturate the thyroid so that it can get into other tissues in the body in order to prevent cancer.

Dr. Derry is highly praised on this and other boards, so I pay attention to his writings. I'm the one that just had a lump removed, so I'm highly interested in preventing breast cancer. Right now, the docs say there's a slim chance it's not malignant, but there is a chance. That's why I got the book. I was surprised to find so much on the thyroid in it.... not stuff that is necessarily new to me, but well referenced stuff. I know there was some disagreement here on iodine a while back, but I thought it was mostly opinions, not knowledge. I can't remember. Guess I'll have to search the archives, a slow process with 28bps connection speed.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Holy Cow, I hope you don't have Hashimoto's, because, if you do, your thyroid is going to go wild!! The wrong food now and then isn't going to hurt you, but this will. Lugol's Solution is for those who are truly low on iodine, whose thyroids can take up the iodine.

[Guest guest]

I don't doubt that she has done her homework and I welcome all points of view. However, she could have said something like: "Do you have Hashimoto's. In my research and/or experience, I've found that those with hashi's ......." Regardless, I'm not mad, just stating my feelings. I hope or someone will explain further.

I am still wondering why iodine is bad for hashi's but not for one who is simply hypothyroid. Does the iodine make you go hyper? Does it make you more hypo? I have been told I'm hashi's, but have never had the hyper/hypo swings ya'll speak of. I'm just hypo all the time.

I have talked with a hypo patient whose doc prescribed iodine. She was up to 450mg Armour and was looking at being able to reduce the armour b/c her body was getting the iodine that it needed.

So many questions!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blessings,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: FeistyThyroFeisty Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:32 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Let's remember, that we all are here learning and sharing our own experiences. We all are experts here on ourselves, and a lot of the time, we know ourselves a lot better than the docs do----Topper's history is a prime example.

's response seemed to me to be the loving response of someone who has done her homework and does not want others to suffer , as all of us on this board do want to ease suffering.Debbie, you have given some good insights as well....

hugs

Feisty

Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hi all!

I've not had time for participating lately, but have been reading most posts. Just wanted to let you know I had the lumpectomy this am. Everything went fine and docs are still confident that it was not malignant. But, we won't know for sure until next tuesday. I'm a little light headed from the pain medicine, but other than that, all is well.

I have just finished reading Dr. Derry;s book' "Breast Cancer & Iodine." It has a whole section on thyroid. I will post a few quotes in a lter post. I am convinced that I want to take iodine supplement. Does anyone know where you can order Lugol's iodine? I know there are other sources, but I would like to at least start with this.

Blessings,

Debbie K.

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I under stand that. That is why I am not "mad" at . At the same time, I wanted her to know how I feel so maybe she could respond better the next time. If I had been mad, I wouldn't have contined the post asking her questions. I guess I came across too strong also.

Anyway, I'm so confused, I dont' know what to ask for. Dr. Derry, I thought, is highly respected on these boards and his book is so well referenced? Yet some here have opposing views/experience. Why would iodine help some and not others? That will be a question for Dr. Milton when I see him. I am counting the days......

Blesisngs,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: melissa Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:33 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

[Guest guest]

Thanks . I under stand that. That is why I am not "mad" at . At the same time, I wanted her to know how I feel so maybe she could respond better the next time. If I had been mad, I wouldn't have contined the post asking her questions. I guess I came across too strong also.

Anyway, I'm so confused, I dont' know what to ask for. Dr. Derry, I thought, is highly respected on these boards and his book is so well referenced? Yet some here have opposing views/experience. Why would iodine help some and not others? That will be a question for Dr. Milton when I see him. I am counting the days......

Blesisngs,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: melissa Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:33 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

[Guest guest]

I am really not educated on Dr. Derry's beliefs. I am just hypothicizing but I thought that only iodine would help those in countries that lack in iodine. But here in the US iodine deficency was not a problem that giving someone extra iodine really wouldn't do anything. But I really don't know. I am just guessing. I'll have to look a few things up and let you know. Plus, I have an appt with my doctor to have my stitches removed on friday and I will ask him. He is very knowledgeable. He graduated from harvard medical school and I know that he will give me an honest educated answer!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau

RE: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Thanks . I under stand that. That is why I am not "mad" at . At the same time, I wanted her to know how I feel so maybe she could respond better the next time. If I had been mad, I wouldn't have contined the post asking her questions. I guess I came across too strong also.

Anyway, I'm so confused, I dont' know what to ask for. Dr. Derry, I thought, is highly respected on these boards and his book is so well referenced? Yet some here have opposing views/experience. Why would iodine help some and not others? That will be a question for Dr. Milton when I see him. I am counting the days......

Blesisngs,

Debbie K.

-----Original Message-----From: melissa Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:33 AMTo: The_Thyroid_Support_Group Subject: Re: Lumpectomy_Lugol's Iodine

Hon, just remember that emails don't have a tone. I have often felt that someone had a harsh tone when in fact it was just the way that I was interpreting the email. Yes we are all here to learn so please don't be upset!

And if you need any help researching something just let me know. I have a cable modem and can do it quite fast. So feel free to email me privately or on list with what you need. I have plenty of spare time since I am on restrictions after my surgery. So, I don't mind at all! Hope you are having a good day!

"Dreams are the touchstones of our character." Henry Thoreau