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It's kind of like a TENS but it covers more area. My TENS would

get irritating but my stimulator doesn't bother me, it's a soothing

vibration and it helps cover up the pain. And no question is a dumb

question here, we're all here to learn and help others so don't feel

bad about asking, that's the way we all learn. Take care.

Ginny

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Mike

My stim is model is 37713 from Medtronics and a Medtronics remote " My Stim "

37742.   Hey, Mike  my PM Dr put me on morphine, what dosage in mg is everyone

on if they don,'t care saying. 

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I am on the Duregesic patch 100mg morphine equal the dose i am on.

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-Mine is the Restore Advance... I got my case out and looked it

up,,,lol,,,,

-- In Stimulator , " Trisha Gruszecki "

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> yes, mine is the rechargeable one. There are 2 rechargeables.

The restore advanced & restore ultra. they are pretty much the same

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MIke,

Mine is a Medtronics unit.  My remote model #37742  it is a My Stim,  my actual

battery  unit # 37713.  I hope this helps.

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From: mike2boys <mike2boys@...>

Subject: group Question

Stimulator

Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 6:48 PM

I would like to know what company everyone here stimulator is and

model? mine is a medtronic snynger 7350 mike group owner

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Hey Sue!!

My stim is an ANS....and the life of the battery is 7 years. Mine has just

ran out also.

I think that it depends on how high we all have it set and how often we

change the stim....sometimes higher, sometimes lower, sometimes faster etc.

I wish you the best of luck today at the appointment.

Let us know how you made out.

I had to cancel my surgery to replace the battery and to add 3 more leads to

the existing stim, since my dad was in the hospital, and my husband was out

of town on business.

Hopefully I can get it done soon!!

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

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JUST GOT BACK FROM THE DR.  IT'S NOT THE BATTERY THAT NEEDS REPLACEMENT.  I WAS

TAKEN OFF THE CYMBALTA, AND THE PAIN PUMP WAS REDUCED JUST A WEE BIT. THE DR.

WANTED TO SEE IF THIS WAS PART OF THE REASON  THAT I WAS SWELLING THE WAY I WAS.

THE SWELLING IN MY LEGS IS SO MUCH BETTER. MY LEFT LEG WILL ALWAYS BE TWICE OR

THREE TIMES THE SIZE OF THE RIGHT, AS THE LEFT LEG IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN THE

RIGHT. THE DR  INCREASED THE PAIN PUMP BACK UP TO WHERE IT HAD BEEN. IF NEED BE,

WE CAN INCREASE IT AGAIN. I NOW KNOW I'M ALLERGIC TO CYMBALTA.  AT LEAST FOR NOW

I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE BATTERY REPLACED.

 

SUE C

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From: KGAVI@... <KGAVI@...>

Subject: Re: GROUP QUESTION

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 6:34 PM

Hey Sue!!

My stim is an ANS....and the life of the battery is 7 years. Mine has just

ran out also.

I think that it depends on how high we all have it set and how often we

change the stim....sometimes higher, sometimes lower, sometimes faster etc.

I wish you the best of luck today at the appointment.

Let us know how you made out.

I had to cancel my surgery to replace the battery and to add 3 more leads to

the existing stim, since my dad was in the hospital, and my husband was out

of town on business.

Hopefully I can get it done soon!!

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

Co-owner

************ **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

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Hey Sue!

Glad to hear that it wasn't your stim battery! Sorry you had to go through

the reaction to the med, though!

Take care and get plenty of rest. I am sure that the pain has tripled from

all the swelling.

Hang in!

Kathy G.

Co-owner

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KATHY

 

THANKS.  THEY HAD GIVEN ME THE CYMBALTA BECAUSE I HAD EXCRUCIATING  ABDOMINAL

PAINS LAST YEAR. I HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE PANCREAS, HAD MY GALL BLADDER TAKEN OUT

AND THEY DISCOVERED THE RSD HAD SPREAD TO MY ABDOMEN. THE CYMBALTA HELPED THE

ABDOMINAL PAIN TREMENDOUSLY. I JUST HOPE THAT THE STOMACH PAIN DOESN'T COME

BACK. I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH ALOT OF THE OTHER MEDS. I'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND

SEE.

 

I'VE BEEN EXHAUSTED. BEEN HAVING GREAT DIFFICULTY WALKING BECAUSE OF THE

SWELLING IN LEGS AND THE PAIN, BUT IT'S GETTING BETTER.

 

SUE C

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From: KGAVI@... <KGAVI@...>

Subject: Re: GROUP QUESTION

Stimulator

Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 2:39 AM

Hey Sue!

Glad to hear that it wasn't your stim battery! Sorry you had to go through

the reaction to the med, though!

Take care and get plenty of rest. I am sure that the pain has tripled from

all the swelling.

Hang in!

Kathy G.

Co-owner

************ **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel

deal here.

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Hey Sue...

I am so sorry you are going through so much pain and frustration!!!!!

I hope that it ends here and now! I will pray that your stomach pain does

not come back!!

Please know I am here for you...any time day or night.

hang in!!

Love,

kathy G.

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Hi, Sue!!

An awesome topic of discussion, Sue!!

I find that if I don't go to the hospital where all my records are kept,

that in some hospitals the doctors and nurses just look at me.....like

ok...yeah

right...RSD uh uh...sure...Let's see what this so called RSD looks

like...and since my left leg is so advanced.....then I get them falling all over

me.

If they only look at my arms, then it is like ok....doesn't really look that

bad...what do you mean I can't touch them??? Then...when they touch my arms,

after my pleas not to and my BP bottoms out from the pain and I pass out

from the pain and the low pressure.....they now are believers...but why do they

not just believe us when we tell them.

It is a shame that this has to be. I know that there are folks out there

that are drug seekers....but they are NOT us.....if they could walk an

hour..forget the day, in our shoes...they would never try to say they are in

chronic

pain.

I have had RSD now for 25 years. I have dealt with amazing and wonderful,

loving physicians who really, truly are healers and are doing their job out

of concern for their patient, and I have been in offices where I was waiting

for the cows and sheep to come through the door as I felt like I was being

pushed through like cattle...you know....a number instead of a human being in

pain and of needing compassion and understanding.

I will give everyone two examples...one a great and positive one and the

other....not so great.

Let's start with the great one...

My doctor now...is out of this world. After having a block done on my groin

and right leg, since the RSD had spread to that leg too, I forgot to keep my

knee straight when I got up out of bed to use the commode next to my bed at

home....well if you guys have ever had blocks done there...you know you are

totally numb for at least 1 or 2 days .....and if you keep your knee locked

straight you will be okay...if not...you will fall down....hard and fast!

Well..I fell down hard and fast..and landed on my left wrist. I was taken

to the hospital..(.which will be the not so great example by the way)

I then called my pm dr when I got home. he was not happy at all with the

treatment that I had received at the other hospital...so he told me to come to

the ER immediately. It was his day off...but I have his cell number...I

have never used it except for the time that he gave it to me and my husband

when

he met us in Washington, DC for a seminar on RSD...he arranged for the

speaker...a guru in RSD...a Dr. Racz to meet with me the night prior to him

speaking. He not only arranged it, but stayed for the entire physical that the

other Dr gave me...neither one of them charged me a dime.

Sorry...I got off topic...so...he came into the ER on his night off and did

the conscious sedation himself while the head of hand surgery placed my wrist

back into place, as it was severely displaced, fractured and dislocated.

he stayed with me and my husband until I left to go home and arranged for me

to come back in the hospital in three days (so the swelling would go down

some) and then he would do my anesthesia for the surgery on my badly fractured

wrist....I now have a plate and 8 screws in my wrist.

To this day, he and his entire staff goes out of their way with their

kindness, love and compassion. He is truly a healer....he is one of the great

ones.

Now...the flip side of that beautiful doctor...

when I was taken by ambulance to the closest hospital (as that is what they

need to do...now we have an ambulance service that will take me to the

hospital that I want to go to unless there is a chance of me coding or

something

serious...you know.) so ...I get to that ER and am told that I have a slight

break and they want to cast it here and now while the ortho Dr is here....

I asked the pompous ER Dr didn't it have to wait until some of the swelling

is down to do anything....and I cannot ever have a cast put on as I am an RSD

patient, with RSD in this limb and it will cause me grave harm to cast

anything on my body.

His response was actually this.. " .oh you are one of those, huh? "

well..let's see first of all what drugs you are taking. I told him what meds I

was on

and that I have a pain management Dr who is the only one who prescribes them

for me, as well as controls my pain pump.

he scoffed at me and said didn't anyone ever tell you that RSD is a made up

disease? Wow..you say you have had this for 25 years...I would like you to

see our psychiatrist before leaving...you really must be very susceptible to

suggestion...it is like if I were to tell you that you had bronchitis...you

most likely would start coughing even though you are not sick...do you see

where I am going with this?

I answered him...yeah...the floor...get my husband in here now! I was so

angry and outraged at him I said that to him... I know that I was out of line

....but I was just so enraged by his comments..I couldn't help myself he then

told the nurse that I am delusional and not to let me go until I spoke with

the " shrink " as he called him.

Well..when my loving hubbie came into the cubical and I told him what he had

said to me....we had the head of the ER in there, the head of nursing in

there, and the patient advocate manager. My husband was told time after time

that he can go back in a few minutes, that I was having Xrays done..when I was

sitting back there waiting for him as this Dr was saying all this to me!

Of course he denied ever saying anything but I was yelling at him and I was

delusional for no reason....until one nurse had the guts to tell

administration that she heard everything he had said and was keeping a record

of it to

give to the chief of the ER. her sister has RSD...so she was almost as

enraged as my husband and I were.

The radiologist tech at the first hospital had me in tears screaming from

the pain..she kept on twisting my arm to get the pictures she needed. I

thought that I was so sensitive from the existing RSD and the agonizing pain

from

the break, that it was me....until I got to the better hosp..where the man

moved the machine and not me.....I begged them not to take any more

X-rays..since I just couldn't take the pain.....and he looked me like are you

kidding

me...I am not touching that arm...he told me that he could see the fracture and

dislocation without even an X-ray...my wrist was deformed from it. Now..if

an X-ray tech can see this...why not an ER Dr!!!??

Well..now that I have wrote the longest post in my life and probably the

record longest in any group...lol will let my fingers and wrists get a break.

Thanks again for the idea, sue...great topic!

Welcome to our new members.....we are so happy to have you!!

Gentle hugs to all,

Kathy G.

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Sue asks a good question. There have been several times I haven¹t been taken

seriously. Sometimes it¹s because I¹m a woman, or when my weight increases

to obese numbers (it fluctuates depending on meds and exercise), and

sometimes it¹s because I have a LONG medical history so they assume I¹m a

chronic complainer or they think I¹m too much in tune with what I perceive

to be wrong with me.

Also, I intimidate some doctors because I believe knowledge is power and so

I¹m a very proactive patient. I used to work with doctors and so I speak

medicalese lingo without effort. Some doctors love it that they don¹t have

to ³dumb down² their medical communication with me, and some think I¹ve read

the internet too much. :o)

A couple of results of doctors who didn¹t take symptoms seriously with me:

--long term infections not addressed in a timely manner even after brought

to their attention, and after a year of not taking it seriously, it caused

me to have body scarring surgery.

--I do not stay with a doctor very long if they don¹t show respect to me. I

will give them three opportunities to redeem themselves and if after a few

months I think they aren¹t giving me the best care possible, I find someone

who will.

The main thing I¹ve learned is to realize that WE pay the salaries of

doctors and their staff, whether through our insurance or through our own

accounts, and so we can expect a certain quality of care. By trying to see

it as a business rather than through our emotions, we can respect ourselves

enough to know to insist on the right treatment. And also, if we can learn

to streamline our reporting of symptoms, they won¹t think we are being

overly dramatic.

Just my observations,

Kathy W.

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Kathy you are so right. Every time I was sent to hosptial due to my

pain It was like the doctors would not beileve me even when I walk in

there with records. I gotten to the point where I go there with my

cat scan and make them call my Doctor. It the only way I get proper

treatment. Mike group owner

>

> Hi, Sue!!

>

> An awesome topic of discussion, Sue!!

>

> I find that if I don't go to the hospital where all my records are

kept,

> that in some hospitals the doctors and nurses just look at

me.....like ok...yeah

> right...RSD uh uh...sure...Let's see what this so called RSD looks

> like...and since my left leg is so advanced.....then I get them

falling all over me.

> If they only look at my arms, then it is like ok....doesn't really

look that

> bad...what do you mean I can't touch them??? Then...when they

touch my arms,

> after my pleas not to and my BP bottoms out from the pain and I

pass out

> from the pain and the low pressure.....they now are believers...but

why do they

> not just believe us when we tell them.

>

> It is a shame that this has to be. I know that there are folks

out there

> that are drug seekers....but they are NOT us.....if they could

walk an

> hour..forget the day, in our shoes...they would never try to say

they are in chronic

> pain.

>

> I have had RSD now for 25 years. I have dealt with amazing and

wonderful,

> loving physicians who really, truly are healers and are doing

their job out

> of concern for their patient, and I have been in offices where I

was waiting

> for the cows and sheep to come through the door as I felt like I

was being

> pushed through like cattle...you know....a number instead of a

human being in

> pain and of needing compassion and understanding.

>

> I will give everyone two examples...one a great and positive one

and the

> other....not so great.

>

> Let's start with the great one...

>

> My doctor now...is out of this world. After having a block done

on my groin

> and right leg, since the RSD had spread to that leg too, I forgot

to keep my

> knee straight when I got up out of bed to use the commode next to

my bed at

> home....well if you guys have ever had blocks done there...you

know you are

> totally numb for at least 1 or 2 days .....and if you keep your

knee locked

> straight you will be okay...if not...you will fall down....hard

and fast!

>

> Well..I fell down hard and fast..and landed on my left wrist. I

was taken

> to the hospital..(.which will be the not so great example by the

way)

>

> I then called my pm dr when I got home. he was not happy at all

with the

> treatment that I had received at the other hospital...so he told

me to come to

> the ER immediately. It was his day off...but I have his cell

number...I

> have never used it except for the time that he gave it to me and

my husband when

> he met us in Washington, DC for a seminar on RSD...he arranged for

the

> speaker...a guru in RSD...a Dr. Racz to meet with me the night

prior to him

> speaking. He not only arranged it, but stayed for the entire

physical that the

> other Dr gave me...neither one of them charged me a dime.

>

> Sorry...I got off topic...so...he came into the ER on his night

off and did

> the conscious sedation himself while the head of hand surgery

placed my wrist

> back into place, as it was severely displaced, fractured and

dislocated.

>

> he stayed with me and my husband until I left to go home and

arranged for me

> to come back in the hospital in three days (so the swelling would

go down

> some) and then he would do my anesthesia for the surgery on my

badly fractured

> wrist....I now have a plate and 8 screws in my wrist.

>

> To this day, he and his entire staff goes out of their way with

their

> kindness, love and compassion. He is truly a healer....he is one

of the great ones.

>

> Now...the flip side of that beautiful doctor...

>

> when I was taken by ambulance to the closest hospital (as that is

what they

> need to do...now we have an ambulance service that will take me to

the

> hospital that I want to go to unless there is a chance of me coding

or something

> serious...you know.) so ...I get to that ER and am told that I

have a slight

> break and they want to cast it here and now while the ortho Dr is

here....

>

> I asked the pompous ER Dr didn't it have to wait until some of the

swelling

> is down to do anything....and I cannot ever have a cast put on as

I am an RSD

> patient, with RSD in this limb and it will cause me grave harm to

cast

> anything on my body.

>

> His response was actually this.. " .oh you are one of those, huh? "

> well..let's see first of all what drugs you are taking. I told

him what meds I was on

> and that I have a pain management Dr who is the only one who

prescribes them

> for me, as well as controls my pain pump.

>

> he scoffed at me and said didn't anyone ever tell you that RSD is

a made up

> disease? Wow..you say you have had this for 25 years...I would

like you to

> see our psychiatrist before leaving...you really must be very

susceptible to

> suggestion...it is like if I were to tell you that you had

bronchitis...you

> most likely would start coughing even though you are not sick...do

you see

> where I am going with this?

>

> I answered him...yeah...the floor...get my husband in here now! I

was so

> angry and outraged at him I said that to him... I know that I was

out of line

> ...but I was just so enraged by his comments..I couldn't help

myself he then

> told the nurse that I am delusional and not to let me go until I

spoke with

> the " shrink " as he called him.

>

> Well..when my loving hubbie came into the cubical and I told him

what he had

> said to me....we had the head of the ER in there, the head of

nursing in

> there, and the patient advocate manager. My husband was told time

after time

> that he can go back in a few minutes, that I was having Xrays

done..when I was

> sitting back there waiting for him as this Dr was saying all this

to me!

>

> Of course he denied ever saying anything but I was yelling at him

and I was

> delusional for no reason....until one nurse had the guts to tell

> administration that she heard everything he had said and was

keeping a record of it to

> give to the chief of the ER. her sister has RSD...so she was

almost as

> enraged as my husband and I were.

>

> The radiologist tech at the first hospital had me in tears

screaming from

> the pain..she kept on twisting my arm to get the pictures she

needed. I

> thought that I was so sensitive from the existing RSD and the

agonizing pain from

> the break, that it was me....until I got to the better hosp..where

the man

> moved the machine and not me.....I begged them not to take any

more

> X-rays..since I just couldn't take the pain.....and he looked me

like are you kidding

> me...I am not touching that arm...he told me that he could see the

fracture and

> dislocation without even an X-ray...my wrist was deformed from

it. Now..if

> an X-ray tech can see this...why not an ER Dr!!!??

>

> Well..now that I have wrote the longest post in my life and

probably the

> record longest in any group...lol will let my fingers and wrists

get a break.

>

> Thanks again for the idea, sue...great topic!

>

> Welcome to our new members.....we are so happy to have you!!

>

> Gentle hugs to all,

>

> Kathy G.

>

>

>

> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find

your travel

> deal here.

> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

>

>

>

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> Sue asks a good question. There have been several times I haven¹t

been taken

> seriously. Sometimes it¹s because I¹m a woman, or when my weight

increases

> to obese numbers (it fluctuates depending on meds and exercise), and

> sometimes it¹s because I have a LONG medical history so they assume

I¹m a

> chronic complainer or they think I¹m too much in tune with what I

perceive

> to be wrong with me.

>

> Also, I intimidate some doctors because I believe knowledge is

power and so

> I¹m a very proactive patient. I used to work with doctors and so I

speak

> medicalese lingo without effort. Some doctors love it that they

don¹t have

> to ³dumb down² their medical communication with me, and some think

I¹ve read

> the internet too much. :o)

>

> A couple of results of doctors who didn¹t take symptoms seriously

with me:

> --long term infections not addressed in a timely manner even after

brought

> to their attention, and after a year of not taking it seriously, it

caused

> me to have body scarring surgery.

> --I do not stay with a doctor very long if they don¹t show respect

to me. I

> will give them three opportunities to redeem themselves and if

after a few

> months I think they aren¹t giving me the best care possible, I find

someone

> who will.

>

> The main thing I¹ve learned is to realize that WE pay the salaries

of

> doctors and their staff, whether through our insurance or through

our own

> accounts, and so we can expect a certain quality of care. By trying

to see

> it as a business rather than through our emotions, we can respect

ourselves

> enough to know to insist on the right treatment. And also, if we

can learn

> to streamline our reporting of symptoms, they won¹t think we are

being

> overly dramatic.

>

> Just my observations,

> Kathy W.

>

>

>

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> Sue asks a good question. There have been several times I haven¹t

been taken

> seriously. Sometimes it¹s because I¹m a woman, or when my weight

increases

> to obese numbers (it fluctuates depending on meds and exercise), and

> sometimes it¹s because I have a LONG medical history so they assume

I¹m a

> chronic complainer or they think I¹m too much in tune with what I

perceive

> to be wrong with me.

>

> Also, I intimidate some doctors because I believe knowledge is power

and so

> I¹m a very proactive patient. I used to work with doctors and so I

speak

> medicalese lingo without effort. Some doctors love it that they

don¹t have

> to ³dumb down² their medical communication with me, and some

think I¹ve read

> the internet too much. :o)

>

> A couple of results of doctors who didn¹t take symptoms seriously

with me:

> --long term infections not addressed in a timely manner even after

brought

> to their attention, and after a year of not taking it seriously, it

caused

> me to have body scarring surgery.

> --I do not stay with a doctor very long if they don¹t show respect

to me. I

> will give them three opportunities to redeem themselves and if after a

few

> months I think they aren¹t giving me the best care possible, I find

someone

> who will.

>

> The main thing I¹ve learned is to realize that WE pay the salaries

of

> doctors and their staff, whether through our insurance or through our

own

> accounts, and so we can expect a certain quality of care. By trying to

see

> it as a business rather than through our emotions, we can respect

ourselves

> enough to know to insist on the right treatment. And also, if we can

learn

> to streamline our reporting of symptoms, they won¹t think we are

being

> overly dramatic.

>

> Just my observations,

> Kathy W.

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After my first surgery on my cervical spine my pain had increased to

the point where I could not take it any more. I call my surgon office

and they did not give me much help. So I drove to there office and told

them thy needed to help me. I had a Panic attack while I was there, and

they did not expect me to walk in, over the phone they just forgot about

me and they did not know what to do when I was there in person. Then

after being there for an hour they sent me to the Hospital. I was

thinking I was going for some Pain control, but NO they sent me to the

Mental Ward! The dr tood the Hospita I was Crazy!!! When you are in

that much Pain and not reciveing help you will go Crazy.

>

> Hi All

>

> Hope everyone is well today. I have a question for the group. Has

anyone found that because they are a pain patient they are not being

taken seriously? Has anyone ever gone to the hospital for other than

your pain condition and were not taken seriously? This has happened to

me and thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss.

>

> Sue C

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I know how this feels so deeply. Having epilepsy and back problems

and birth deffects on hands. I have not been taking seriosly. nothing

like going to E.R for sezuires then having them set off my back. now

i need sommething for pain while at the same time a anti sezuire

med. mike group owner

>

> Hi, Sue!!

>

> An awesome topic of discussion, Sue!!

>

> I find that if I don't go to the hospital where all my records are

kept,

> that in some hospitals the doctors and nurses just look at

me.....like ok...yeah

> right...RSD uh uh...sure...Let's see what this so called RSD looks

> like...and since my left leg is so advanced.....then I get them

falling all over me.

> If they only look at my arms, then it is like ok....doesn't really

look that

> bad...what do you mean I can't touch them??? Then...when they

touch my arms,

> after my pleas not to and my BP bottoms out from the pain and I

pass out

> from the pain and the low pressure.....they now are believers...but

why do they

> not just believe us when we tell them.

>

> It is a shame that this has to be. I know that there are folks

out there

> that are drug seekers....but they are NOT us.....if they could

walk an

> hour..forget the day, in our shoes...they would never try to say

they are in chronic

> pain.

>

> I have had RSD now for 25 years. I have dealt with amazing and

wonderful,

> loving physicians who really, truly are healers and are doing

their job out

> of concern for their patient, and I have been in offices where I

was waiting

> for the cows and sheep to come through the door as I felt like I

was being

> pushed through like cattle...you know....a number instead of a

human being in

> pain and of needing compassion and understanding.

>

> I will give everyone two examples...one a great and positive one

and the

> other....not so great.

>

> Let's start with the great one...

>

> My doctor now...is out of this world. After having a block done

on my groin

> and right leg, since the RSD had spread to that leg too, I forgot

to keep my

> knee straight when I got up out of bed to use the commode next to

my bed at

> home....well if you guys have ever had blocks done there...you

know you are

> totally numb for at least 1 or 2 days .....and if you keep your

knee locked

> straight you will be okay...if not...you will fall down....hard

and fast!

>

> Well..I fell down hard and fast..and landed on my left wrist. I

was taken

> to the hospital..(.which will be the not so great example by the

way)

>

> I then called my pm dr when I got home. he was not happy at all

with the

> treatment that I had received at the other hospital...so he told

me to come to

> the ER immediately. It was his day off...but I have his cell

number...I

> have never used it except for the time that he gave it to me and

my husband when

> he met us in Washington, DC for a seminar on RSD...he arranged for

the

> speaker...a guru in RSD...a Dr. Racz to meet with me the night

prior to him

> speaking. He not only arranged it, but stayed for the entire

physical that the

> other Dr gave me...neither one of them charged me a dime.

>

> Sorry...I got off topic...so...he came into the ER on his night

off and did

> the conscious sedation himself while the head of hand surgery

placed my wrist

> back into place, as it was severely displaced, fractured and

dislocated.

>

> he stayed with me and my husband until I left to go home and

arranged for me

> to come back in the hospital in three days (so the swelling would

go down

> some) and then he would do my anesthesia for the surgery on my

badly fractured

> wrist....I now have a plate and 8 screws in my wrist.

>

> To this day, he and his entire staff goes out of their way with

their

> kindness, love and compassion. He is truly a healer....he is one

of the great ones.

>

> Now...the flip side of that beautiful doctor...

>

> when I was taken by ambulance to the closest hospital (as that is

what they

> need to do...now we have an ambulance service that will take me to

the

> hospital that I want to go to unless there is a chance of me coding

or something

> serious...you know.) so ...I get to that ER and am told that I

have a slight

> break and they want to cast it here and now while the ortho Dr is

here....

>

> I asked the pompous ER Dr didn't it have to wait until some of the

swelling

> is down to do anything....and I cannot ever have a cast put on as

I am an RSD

> patient, with RSD in this limb and it will cause me grave harm to

cast

> anything on my body.

>

> His response was actually this.. " .oh you are one of those, huh? "

> well..let's see first of all what drugs you are taking. I told

him what meds I was on

> and that I have a pain management Dr who is the only one who

prescribes them

> for me, as well as controls my pain pump.

>

> he scoffed at me and said didn't anyone ever tell you that RSD is

a made up

> disease? Wow..you say you have had this for 25 years...I would

like you to

> see our psychiatrist before leaving...you really must be very

susceptible to

> suggestion...it is like if I were to tell you that you had

bronchitis...you

> most likely would start coughing even though you are not sick...do

you see

> where I am going with this?

>

> I answered him...yeah...the floor...get my husband in here now! I

was so

> angry and outraged at him I said that to him... I know that I was

out of line

> ...but I was just so enraged by his comments..I couldn't help

myself he then

> told the nurse that I am delusional and not to let me go until I

spoke with

> the " shrink " as he called him.

>

> Well..when my loving hubbie came into the cubical and I told him

what he had

> said to me....we had the head of the ER in there, the head of

nursing in

> there, and the patient advocate manager. My husband was told time

after time

> that he can go back in a few minutes, that I was having Xrays

done..when I was

> sitting back there waiting for him as this Dr was saying all this

to me!

>

> Of course he denied ever saying anything but I was yelling at him

and I was

> delusional for no reason....until one nurse had the guts to tell

> administration that she heard everything he had said and was

keeping a record of it to

> give to the chief of the ER. her sister has RSD...so she was

almost as

> enraged as my husband and I were.

>

> The radiologist tech at the first hospital had me in tears

screaming from

> the pain..she kept on twisting my arm to get the pictures she

needed. I

> thought that I was so sensitive from the existing RSD and the

agonizing pain from

> the break, that it was me....until I got to the better hosp..where

the man

> moved the machine and not me.....I begged them not to take any

more

> X-rays..since I just couldn't take the pain.....and he looked me

like are you kidding

> me...I am not touching that arm...he told me that he could see the

fracture and

> dislocation without even an X-ray...my wrist was deformed from

it. Now..if

> an X-ray tech can see this...why not an ER Dr!!!??

>

> Well..now that I have wrote the longest post in my life and

probably the

> record longest in any group...lol will let my fingers and wrists

get a break.

>

> Thanks again for the idea, sue...great topic!

>

> Welcome to our new members.....we are so happy to have you!!

>

> Gentle hugs to all,

>

> Kathy G.

>

>

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I'm horrified to hear of your experience!! That doctor should be shot. You went

for help and he feed you to the wolves. This is the problem,  we go for help and

we're told we're crazy. We are not crazy, we are people in pain desperate for

answers, seeking a solution.

You are in the right place. You are with people who know what you are going

through and know how you are feeling. I know how I felt when I kept being told 

that there wasn't anything wrong, it's in my head. I started to question it. 

But I knew my body and I knew me. The treatment you got was barbaric, but all

too common.

When you're not receiving help, the only solution is to go somewhere else, go to

a different dr. Keep going until you find one that is able to help.

Unfortunately it might not be possible to eliminate all your pain, but there has

to be someone who can help. It took over 4 years to find a dr that diagnosed my

RSD. Even now, if I go to a dr, that doesn't treat me the way I should be

treated, i go to another dr. Stand up for yourself, believe in yourself.

 

Sue C

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From: Bad Boy <candelariaorlando@...>

Subject: Re: Group Question

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 1:45 PM

After my first surgery on my cervical spine my pain had increased to

the point where I could not take it any more. I call my surgon office

and they did not give me much help. So I drove to there office and told

them thy needed to help me. I had a Panic attack while I was there, and

they did not expect me to walk in, over the phone they just forgot about

me and they did not know what to do when I was there in person. Then

after being there for an hour they sent me to the Hospital. I was

thinking I was going for some Pain control, but NO they sent me to the

Mental Ward! The dr tood the Hospita I was Crazy!!! When you are in

that much Pain and not reciveing help you will go Crazy.

>

> Hi All

>

> Hope everyone is well today. I have a question for the group. Has

anyone found that because they are a pain patient they are not being

taken seriously? Has anyone ever gone to the hospital for other than

your pain condition and were not taken seriously? This has happened to

me and thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss.

>

> Sue C

> Moderator

>

>

>

>

>

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> > Hi All

> >

> > Hope everyone is well today. I have a question for the group. Has

> anyone found that because they are a pain patient they are not being

> taken seriously? Has anyone ever gone to the hospital for other than

> your pain condition and were not taken seriously? This has happened to

> me and thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss.

> >

> > Sue C

> > Moderator

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You know I had issues with the first few doctors I met because of the

knowledge I had about my own condition. I'm not sure if it was because of

the fact I was female, I was a woman in general, I knew what I was talking

about or they felt the need to be superior over their patients. Needless to

say, The two doctors whom I dealt with at first did not last for very long

because of their attitude as they would not allow me to speak my own

thoughts and opinions on certain issues regarding my epilepsy. When that

happened, I went ballistic and literally went into defensive mode, I'm not

kidding either. I've been known to bring a doctor back from the clouds

because I have always believed they put their pants on one leg at a time

just like me. Just because they have the Dr and the MD in their name does

not give them the right to misjudge or belittle me as a person or as a

woman.

Truth be known, I have literally chewed a medical doctor out before because

of his arrogance and basically told him where to shove his diploma and his

education because he was not helping my health concerns. My current

neurologist was referred to me by a neurosurgeon and neurologist who I

worked with in another state. The neurologist I have now is wonderful. He

and I have very open communication and we discuss everything. He has been

very impressed with my own performance and the fact I keep up with my own

medical research. When there are things I find which I don't know, I ask

questions.

My pain management doctor was another person. He was good at what he did but

the problem which I did not like was every so often he had this cockiness

about him and it just rubbed me the wrong way. Many of you recall me

speaking of all the years I went through with this doctor. I had no other

choice because I did not know of any one else at the time. I recall the one

time I rose my voice to this doctor and asked him what he was going to do in

order to fix my back issue I was in total tears because my back hurt so

much. That's when he said he would send me to a neurosurgeon and we would be

looking at back surgery. I remember one of the nurses at the front desk

coming into the room and saying " good for you at standing up because even he

needs to be brought back down to earth every now and again " She grinned,

gave me a tissue and an ice pack then said he would be back with a doctor's

name and time.

That was that and from then on we got along. LOL! I suppose I have always

been one of those types where I can put up with a lot but when it comes to

my health that's where I draw the line of limitations. A doctor needs to

respect me for who I am and if they are unable to, I will go elsewhere,

period.

The pain management doctor I had recently seen is wonderful and gave me a

few things to review for therapy. I haven't had much issues lately with back

pain either. I know it still needs help so I have been doing basic mechanics

until I can start the heavier therapy suggested.

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Hello Candelariaorlando!!! ( I apologize I don't have your name)

I am SO SORRY you were abused by that doctor....the person who took an oath

to do NO HARM....and to be a healer. He should not only lose his license as

a physician, but his staff (who was involved in just sitting on their brains,

I say sitting on their brains, since that is where their brains must

be....since they were so STUPID!!) should be fired and blackballed from ever

working

for a healer again! The entire office should of been closed!

I am so glad that you are here with us.....we have such great folks here who

are not only willing to help you, listen to you and let you vent to them, as

we are all too familiar with each other's problems.

Please know that I am here for you...or anyone...just give me a hollar on my

email address @ _Kgavi@..._ (mailto:Kgavi@...) OR

_eyes4lenny@..._ (mailto:eyes4lenny@...)

I will talk to everyone on Saturday, if my dad is not downtown @

Jefferson...we will have to see...the dr thinks he is in congestive heart

failure from

the pneumonia.

I hope all is well with all you beautiful people.

Please know that I love you,

Kathy G.

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Good for you.....You are sooo right...doctors, lawyers, everyone and anyone

with a position of power, education, money or wealth....put their pant legs

on one at a time...you go, girl!!

This is not the same....but I have to share...

I was not her patient...but her secretary/receptionist...When I was 18, I

was a freshly graduate right out of High School..I graduated on Tuesday, the

10th and had my first day of work on Wednesday, the 11th.

My first " real " job was the position of receptionist for the department of

anesthesia at Jefferson University Hospital.

I had 82 doctors in this department...all of whom got messages daily...and

had 5 phone lines.

I loved this job..to date, it is still my most favorite posistion, due to

the people and the job...anyway...one of the docs came into the office and I

swear to you did the following:

She came in and THREW a chart on my desk and bellowed " GIRL " file this..then

get me my coffee...2 sugars no cream...get it right...i need the

caffeine.....when I looked at her in astonishment, she yelled " NOW! " .

This was my response...

I got up, picked up her coat that she just threw on the chair next to the

closet provided with hangers and I hung up her coat...all he way in the back

where you couldn't see it...I then handed her the chart and told her that if

she wanted me to file anything from now on, my name is Kathy. I do not answer

to anything else...but especially " Girl " . Oh..and if you want coffee..I am

not the waitress and getting coffee for the doctors is NOT in my job

description.

I then sat back down at my desk and after realizing what I just had done to

an attending physician.....I started to pack up my desk. My manager, who

was the biggest female dog, told me that I was fired. The SAME doctor that I

just had yelled at...told her no she isn't...she is now my secretary...I need

someone with her type of spunk. The next day, she came in and gave me the

most beautiful Lennox candy dish as an apology......and told me that I was

right and I was great. I then became her secretary and made the same amount of

money that my former boss did...she was in her late 40's...she quit a week

later!!!!!lol

thought that all would enjoy!!

kathy G.

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