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Sorry, I meant to add that a year ago I was treated for a corneal

ulcer, and have several scars on both corneas.

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>

> Hi,

> Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

> due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

> Retinal damage.

> I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

> nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

> photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

> year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

> episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

> also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

> Thanks,

> Carol

>

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Carol,

There isn't a strong association between optic neuritis or retinopathy with RA.

Use of the anti-TNF inhibitors is associated with optic neuritis, and

Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) treatment is associated with retinal

damage.

There may be a link between Sjogren's syndrome and ON.

So sorry that you are experiencing this. I hope you get some answers soon.

Not an MD

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM, mrsmaddog2005 <mrsmaddog2005@...> wrote:

> Hi,

> Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

> due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

> Retinal damage.

> I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

> nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

> photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

> year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

> episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

> also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

> Thanks,

> Carol

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Thanks, , I know that both autoimmune diseases and Eye problems

are complex. I just see a pattern developing, first the ulcers, now

the optic neuritis and retinal tearing. I also am curious about

vasculitis or temporal arteritis being the cause of one or all three.

I posted a while back about scalp pain and tenderness. Yes, I am 'too

young' for TA, 41. It just frustrates me that no MD can connect the

dots as it were. I wish that the ER would have ordered an optho

consult during the migraine attacks they 'treated' with anti-nausea

and pain meds. I would almost bet that I was having acute neuritis at

those times! As far as the retinopathy goes, that could be a separate

issue. I can foresee the merry-go-round I am about to go on, again!

>

> Carol,

>

> There isn't a strong association between optic neuritis or

retinopathy with RA.

>

> Use of the anti-TNF inhibitors is associated with optic neuritis, and

> Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) treatment is associated with retinal

> damage.

>

> There may be a link between Sjogren's syndrome and ON.

>

> So sorry that you are experiencing this. I hope you get some answers

soon.

>

>

>

> Not an MD

>

>

> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM, mrsmaddog2005 <mrsmaddog2005@...>

wrote:

> > Hi,

> > Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

> > due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

> > Retinal damage.

> > I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

> > nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

> > photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

> > year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

> > episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

> > also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

> > Thanks,

> > Carol

>

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Carol,

What does your ophthalmologist think your diagnosis might be?

Have any blood tests been abnormal?

Not an MD

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:24 PM, mrsmaddog2005 <mrsmaddog2005@...> wrote:

> Thanks, , I know that both autoimmune diseases and Eye problems

> are complex. I just see a pattern developing, first the ulcers, now

> the optic neuritis and retinal tearing. I also am curious about

> vasculitis or temporal arteritis being the cause of one or all three.

> I posted a while back about scalp pain and tenderness. Yes, I am 'too

> young' for TA, 41. It just frustrates me that no MD can connect the

> dots as it were. I wish that the ER would have ordered an optho

> consult during the migraine attacks they 'treated' with anti-nausea

> and pain meds. I would almost bet that I was having acute neuritis at

> those times! As far as the retinopathy goes, that could be a separate

> issue. I can foresee the merry-go-round I am about to go on, again!

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I have had dry eyes for years Carol. I think it goes with the territory.

So many medicines dry the eyes more too.

Did you see a doctor about the " migraine " . I have had several instances of

a rare eye disorder call Iritis flare up and it always hit the same

eye.....severe pain, inability to tolerate light, etc. They gave me steroid

drops until it went away each time. It can blind you though.

R

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Subject: [ ] RA and Eyes

Hi,

Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

Retinal damage.

I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

Thanks,

Carol

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Hi Carol, I'm new to this support group and was just checking some of

the msgs. One of the meds I am taking is Plaguenil. Anyway, my doctor

said I had to get an eye exam b/c it does cause damage. What kind and

syptoms, I'm not sure but have you looked into that already?

Paris

--- In , " mrsmaddog2005 " <mrsmaddog2005@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi,

> Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

> due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

> Retinal damage.

> I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

> nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

> photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

> year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

> episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

> also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

> Thanks,

> Carol

>

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Just to update a little, and thank you all,

I have an appt. with retina specialist 9/8 and neuro-optho 9/23. Don't

know what either will test for, last RF negative, ANA etc all negative

4+ years ago. I know, my current physician needs to redo all the blood

work NOW. The only reason anyone even suspects RA at all is that I had

sudden profound symptoms and have " flares " , not just typical everyday

OA symptoms. Some of my joints are always stiff/painful, others flare

up in pairs every so often. Usually it is my hands, elbows, and hips.

These episodes hurt differently than the OA type of pain. I mean worse

and overwhelming. Like something is inside the joint pressing outward.

OA pain, to me, is dull aching or sometimes burning. I was sent round

and round from Rheumatology to Neurology and have had no definite

answer. Possible this and possible that. Having a suspected brainstem

aneurysm/mass/lesion on MRI didn't help, it made the Drs a little

nervous, like they had missed something. Losing my insurance and

income didn't help. Now I am sure I will be sent around again.

I did find info about SLE and occular problems, but, again, that's

been ruled out before.

Sorry for the long post, and possibly off topic one, to boot!

Carol

> >

> > Hi,

> > Has anyone had any eye problems attributed to RA? Obviously, dry eyes,

> > due to Sjogren's is common, but I mean Optic Neuritis/Neuropathy or

> > Retinal damage.

> > I have a hole in my retina with increased floaters and bilateral optic

> > nerve pallor with color vision changes, decreased night vision,

> > photophobia. I have had two intractable 'migraine' attacks in the past

> > year, centered in or around one eye, and now wonder if they were

> > episodes of ON. I know MS is up there in the list of suspects, but

> > also read some info listing Lupus and RA. It is very frustrating!

> > Thanks,

> > Carol

> >

>

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