Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Brad, << You want to use a bread knife to cut down that oak tree, go for it. I'd prefer to use a chainsaw.>> That's the superior attitude I was talking about. My son and I are cutting down the oak tree with a DIFFERENT chain saw. No not at all superior. Tools. I was talking tools. The bread knife may not get the job done in this century. Eventually. Maybe. Lets get into the " my shoes are better than yours " because it will be a nice change of topic. LOL *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* One thing you can learn by watching the clock is that it passes. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , Tools. Fine. I assume in your analogy, the CI is the chainsaw. What was the butter knife? Brad ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Re: RE: Brad Brad, << You want to use a bread knife to cut down that oak tree, go for it. I'd prefer to use a chainsaw.>> That's the superior attitude I was talking about. My son and I are cutting down the oak tree with a DIFFERENT chain saw. No not at all superior. Tools. I was talking tools. The bread knife may not get the job done in this century. Eventually. Maybe. Lets get into the " my shoes are better than yours " because it will be a nice change of topic. LOL *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* One thing you can learn by watching the clock is that it passes. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Sorry Bread knife not butter knife. Brad Re: RE: Brad Brad, << You want to use a bread knife to cut down that oak tree, go for it. I'd prefer to use a chainsaw.>> That's the superior attitude I was talking about. My son and I are cutting down the oak tree with a DIFFERENT chain saw. No not at all superior. Tools. I was talking tools. The bread knife may not get the job done in this century. Eventually. Maybe. Lets get into the " my shoes are better than yours " because it will be a nice change of topic. LOL *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* One thing you can learn by watching the clock is that it passes. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Butter knife. Hearing aids. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* In 1911 The first art contest was held. Winners were selected by a drawing. -- Daryl Stout & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Thanks for the clarification. Not really applicable to us as my son doesn't use HA or ALD's Re: RE: Brad Butter knife. Hearing aids. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* In 1911 The first art contest was held. Winners were selected by a drawing. -- Daryl Stout & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , Only one comment (I'm doing better) <<What else is there in the medical arena that can transform lifestyles so radically?>> Heart Transplants and bypass surgery, Infertility treatments, joint replacements to restore mobility, corneal transplants, kidney transplants, chemo and radiation therapy to cure cancer, AIDS and HIV treatments that allow people with AIDS to be alive at all. ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , When you referred to in your last message, I take it you weren't talking about me? Just checking since I am deafblind but do not use a wheelchair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , Hmmmm, where did the wheelchair come from then? Oh boy, I think the grey matter is responsible. Someone help! (Gimlet shows no empathy, what a dawg) *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Chaos, panic and disorder ... my work here is done. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Brad, " Heart Transplants and bypass surgery, Infertility treatments, joint replacements to restore mobility, corneal transplants, kidney transplants, chemo and radiation therapy to cure cancer, AIDS and HIV treatments that allow people with AIDS to be alive at all. " Would you approve of any of these for your son if he had a need? *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me! & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , We'll keep the " gray matter " a secret between us. I promise...I won't tell. <grin> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , Yes, since they are really aren't effective alternatives except for the joint replacements. Nut with a CI, he dopes have an effective alternative. But even though all these are life altering treatments, I still wouldn't classify any of them as miracles. Scientific achievements, yes. Miracles, no. ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Re: RE: Brad Brad, " Heart Transplants and bypass surgery, Infertility treatments, joint replacements to restore mobility, corneal transplants, kidney transplants, chemo and radiation therapy to cure cancer, AIDS and HIV treatments that allow people with AIDS to be alive at all. " Would you approve of any of these for your son if he had a need? *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me! & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 In the deafblind community I know deafblind people who lost their hearing and vision in childhood or adulthood , and they have chosen to continue to use tactual sign language rather than get a CI because it is the lifestyle they are used to. For me I lived in the oral world and I needed a CI to continue to function in my environment. The deafblind community is such a small group that people are accepting of one another, CI or not. The National Federation of the Blind believes blindness is a physical trait like hair color or height, are proud of their white cane and strongly believe in independence. They may take a strong stance against future eye implants... Re: RE: Brad > , > > When you referred to in your last message, I take it you weren't > talking about me? Just checking since I am deafblind but do not use a > wheelchair. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 And I'll be looking for a typing finger replacement soon! Yikes that was my worst typo-filled post yet! Brad Re: RE: Brad Brad, " Heart Transplants and bypass surgery, Infertility treatments, joint replacements to restore mobility, corneal transplants, kidney transplants, chemo and radiation therapy to cure cancer, AIDS and HIV treatments that allow people with AIDS to be alive at all. " Would you approve of any of these for your son if he had a need? *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I work hard because millions on welfare depend on me! & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Brad, " Yes, since they are really aren't effective alternatives except for the joint replacements. Nut with a CI, he dopes have an effective alternative. " The orher choice is a lesser quaility of life. But manageable to some degree. " Scientific achievements, yes. Miracles, no. " A matter of perspective I dare say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I dont recall how old your son is but, and just musing here, since you say " ...he does have an effective alternative. " what he may think of this in 10 or 20 years. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 <<The orher choice is a lesser quaility of life. But manageable to some degree.>> Cancer, AIDS, Heart Failure... Yes a REALLY low quality of life. <<A matter of perspective I dare say. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.>> Agreed <<I dont recall how old your son is but, and just musing here, since you say " ...he does have an effective alternative. " what he may think of this in 10 or 20 years.>> He's 14. In 10 or 20 years, assuming he has recovered from the non-hearing-related reason's he's not a CI candidate (doubtful, but possible), then he can be like Joni and other pre-lingual folks and make his own choice. Right now even with the 100% access to information he gets in his ASL environment, he struggles like hell to make it through each day for reasons not related at all to how much he hears or doesn't hear. Rather, his struggles are directly related to events in his past (pre-adoption) when hearing, speech and oral communication went hand in hand with events that I hope no other human being ever as to endure or hear about. ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Oh thats right he is adopted, I remember now. Does he know about the CI? I can see why you are not pushing for it. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Salesman Welcome, Dog Food is Expensive. --sign on a fence & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 , Yes he knows about the CI, as do all the kids at his school. There are several kids there with CI's, but even before the first CI user enrolled, the kids there are all very aware of the full spectrum of communication and technology options are out there for them. ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Re: RE: Brad Oh thats right he is adopted, I remember now. Does he know about the CI? I can see why you are not pushing for it. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* Salesman Welcome, Dog Food is Expensive. --sign on a fence & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Thanks Jeff Brad Re: Brad > Also I'm so glad that > Brad is willing to share that part of his life with this group. To say nothing > of having adopted a child who may never have had a chance to be loved or > cherished without Brad in his life. Amen! CI or no CI a child (ANY child) doesn't have a chance of ever having any sort of life at all if there not in a family that loves and supports them. Our adopted daughter was badly neglected when we adopted her at age 4. Eight years later there's still signs of that neglect and I suspect she'll carry some of it the rest of her life. Hearing or deaf; signing or oral; implanted or non-implanted- Brad and his family have given his son the most important thing: a loving family. -Jeff Clarion 90K 12/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Bob, 1) Accusing someone of trolling is a serious charge. 2) You brought me directly into the conversation when you said, " Hopefully our moderator sees through you [sic] motives. " 3) I wrote you privately about this yesterday, but did not receive a response. So, you left me no choice. My silence could have been interpreted by Brad to be agreement with you. And I don't believe Brad is trolling. I don't want to " control " the group. I just want people to behave respectfully toward one another and learn about their diseases and/or conditions. Not an MD On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 3:58 PM, fullwave2 <w8nyy.1@...> wrote: > And I am sorry that you feel you need to apologize on my behalf. It > tells me a lot about how you wish to " control " this forum and what > types of posts you prefer to see. I suspect you won't have to put up > with my posts as much in the future. Too bad. > Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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