Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Carla, I should also explain, in the package with the capsules is a tiny red pill that is supposed to be taken if you're hemorrhaging. I have not taken it myself but I did talk to a woman in the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group that has taken it with no ill effects. My acupuncturist says Yunnan is also a good blood tonic. Carol Yunnan Paiyao > Interesting. I had not read much about this herbal formula before. > Thank you for sharing your experience with it Carol. As always...it > spurred a bit of online digging.... > > Everything online seems to indicate it's for emergency use in stopping > bleeding wounds and primarily for external use. I couldn't seem to find > a lot about long term use anywhere though or much at all about menstrual > use. Lots of references to indicate it's not safe for pregnant (as it > may cause birth defects) or breastfeeding women. It's certainly been > *around* a very, very long time and yet has little research done on it. > > Yunnan Paiyao (also: Yunnan Paiyo and Yun Nan Bai Yao) > > " This herbal formula is for those who have injury on muscles, bones, > ligaments or internal organs. In Vietnam War, this herbal formula was > sold so fast, some Chinese Soldiers were injured on battlefield and > needed this formula so bad and > rather used gold coin to trade this formula. Therefore it gains a > nickname, " Gold without trade. " > > Chinese miracle " drug " used by the PRC army to heal anything from > chronic gastritis and bleeding ulcers to gunshot wounds. It speeds > healing by normalizing circulation. > > Ingredients includes: > > Notoginseng root (Mandarin name: Tien Chi Ginseng) > Herb of e > Chinese Yam > Wild Yam > Geranium Plant Lesser > Galangal root > Ox Gall > > apparently, the key active ingredient here is the notoginseng root -- > according to webmd, clinical trials conducted in China indicated that > Notoginseng speeds the clotting process. I found 3 papers from China on > this in PubMed -- none included abstracts online for review as all 3 > papers are in Chinese. There was also a paper on allergic contact > dermititis related to this compound but it too was lacking an abstract. > > Notoginseng grows in the Yunnan province -- hence the name of this > formula. > > http://www.healthphone.com/consump_english/encyclopedia/chinese_herbal_files /notoginseng.htm > > Chemical breakdown > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinC hemId.html > > Other biological effects > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinO th.html > > (two items: serotonergic transmission or dopaminergic mechanisms have > been implicated in ginseng's effects on behavior; Panax notoginseng > extracts, injected iv at concentrations >0.5 g/kg, produced marked > hypotensive response with bradycardia in albino rats. The hypotensive > effect was blocked or reversed by pretreatment with atropine, > propanolol, and a combination of chlorpheniramine and cimetidine. > Similar results were also observed in rabbits. These results were > consistent with the use of Panax notoginseng as an antiangina and > antistasis agent in traditional Chinese medicine (Lei & Chiou, 1986). ) > > another website listed the formula by a percentage breakdown of > ingredients: > > San Qi Pseudoginseng 40% > Herb of e 17% > Shan Yao Dioscorea opposita 13% > Wild Yam Dioscorea nipponica 10% > Geranium thunbergii 7.2% > Lesser galangal root Alpinia officinarum 6% > Ox gall 5% > > Safety issues: Overdosage for a long period of time may produce a > feeling of distention of stomach or abdomen and loss of appetite. > > Comprehensive discussion of use of products with ginseng -- including > notoginseng root/panax -- and also including an interesting rebuttal > (directed to Weil) of potential for estrogenic effects: > > SAFETY ISSUES AFFECTING CHINESE HERBS: The Case of Ginseng > essay by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional > Medicine, Portland, Oregon > December 2000 > > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/ginseng.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Carla, I should also explain, in the package with the capsules is a tiny red pill that is supposed to be taken if you're hemorrhaging. I have not taken it myself but I did talk to a woman in the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group that has taken it with no ill effects. My acupuncturist says Yunnan is also a good blood tonic. Carol Yunnan Paiyao > Interesting. I had not read much about this herbal formula before. > Thank you for sharing your experience with it Carol. As always...it > spurred a bit of online digging.... > > Everything online seems to indicate it's for emergency use in stopping > bleeding wounds and primarily for external use. I couldn't seem to find > a lot about long term use anywhere though or much at all about menstrual > use. Lots of references to indicate it's not safe for pregnant (as it > may cause birth defects) or breastfeeding women. It's certainly been > *around* a very, very long time and yet has little research done on it. > > Yunnan Paiyao (also: Yunnan Paiyo and Yun Nan Bai Yao) > > " This herbal formula is for those who have injury on muscles, bones, > ligaments or internal organs. In Vietnam War, this herbal formula was > sold so fast, some Chinese Soldiers were injured on battlefield and > needed this formula so bad and > rather used gold coin to trade this formula. Therefore it gains a > nickname, " Gold without trade. " > > Chinese miracle " drug " used by the PRC army to heal anything from > chronic gastritis and bleeding ulcers to gunshot wounds. It speeds > healing by normalizing circulation. > > Ingredients includes: > > Notoginseng root (Mandarin name: Tien Chi Ginseng) > Herb of e > Chinese Yam > Wild Yam > Geranium Plant Lesser > Galangal root > Ox Gall > > apparently, the key active ingredient here is the notoginseng root -- > according to webmd, clinical trials conducted in China indicated that > Notoginseng speeds the clotting process. I found 3 papers from China on > this in PubMed -- none included abstracts online for review as all 3 > papers are in Chinese. There was also a paper on allergic contact > dermititis related to this compound but it too was lacking an abstract. > > Notoginseng grows in the Yunnan province -- hence the name of this > formula. > > http://www.healthphone.com/consump_english/encyclopedia/chinese_herbal_files /notoginseng.htm > > Chemical breakdown > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinC hemId.html > > Other biological effects > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinO th.html > > (two items: serotonergic transmission or dopaminergic mechanisms have > been implicated in ginseng's effects on behavior; Panax notoginseng > extracts, injected iv at concentrations >0.5 g/kg, produced marked > hypotensive response with bradycardia in albino rats. The hypotensive > effect was blocked or reversed by pretreatment with atropine, > propanolol, and a combination of chlorpheniramine and cimetidine. > Similar results were also observed in rabbits. These results were > consistent with the use of Panax notoginseng as an antiangina and > antistasis agent in traditional Chinese medicine (Lei & Chiou, 1986). ) > > another website listed the formula by a percentage breakdown of > ingredients: > > San Qi Pseudoginseng 40% > Herb of e 17% > Shan Yao Dioscorea opposita 13% > Wild Yam Dioscorea nipponica 10% > Geranium thunbergii 7.2% > Lesser galangal root Alpinia officinarum 6% > Ox gall 5% > > Safety issues: Overdosage for a long period of time may produce a > feeling of distention of stomach or abdomen and loss of appetite. > > Comprehensive discussion of use of products with ginseng -- including > notoginseng root/panax -- and also including an interesting rebuttal > (directed to Weil) of potential for estrogenic effects: > > SAFETY ISSUES AFFECTING CHINESE HERBS: The Case of Ginseng > essay by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional > Medicine, Portland, Oregon > December 2000 > > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/ginseng.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 Carla, I should also explain, in the package with the capsules is a tiny red pill that is supposed to be taken if you're hemorrhaging. I have not taken it myself but I did talk to a woman in the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group that has taken it with no ill effects. My acupuncturist says Yunnan is also a good blood tonic. Carol Yunnan Paiyao > Interesting. I had not read much about this herbal formula before. > Thank you for sharing your experience with it Carol. As always...it > spurred a bit of online digging.... > > Everything online seems to indicate it's for emergency use in stopping > bleeding wounds and primarily for external use. I couldn't seem to find > a lot about long term use anywhere though or much at all about menstrual > use. Lots of references to indicate it's not safe for pregnant (as it > may cause birth defects) or breastfeeding women. It's certainly been > *around* a very, very long time and yet has little research done on it. > > Yunnan Paiyao (also: Yunnan Paiyo and Yun Nan Bai Yao) > > " This herbal formula is for those who have injury on muscles, bones, > ligaments or internal organs. In Vietnam War, this herbal formula was > sold so fast, some Chinese Soldiers were injured on battlefield and > needed this formula so bad and > rather used gold coin to trade this formula. Therefore it gains a > nickname, " Gold without trade. " > > Chinese miracle " drug " used by the PRC army to heal anything from > chronic gastritis and bleeding ulcers to gunshot wounds. It speeds > healing by normalizing circulation. > > Ingredients includes: > > Notoginseng root (Mandarin name: Tien Chi Ginseng) > Herb of e > Chinese Yam > Wild Yam > Geranium Plant Lesser > Galangal root > Ox Gall > > apparently, the key active ingredient here is the notoginseng root -- > according to webmd, clinical trials conducted in China indicated that > Notoginseng speeds the clotting process. I found 3 papers from China on > this in PubMed -- none included abstracts online for review as all 3 > papers are in Chinese. There was also a paper on allergic contact > dermititis related to this compound but it too was lacking an abstract. > > Notoginseng grows in the Yunnan province -- hence the name of this > formula. > > http://www.healthphone.com/consump_english/encyclopedia/chinese_herbal_files /notoginseng.htm > > Chemical breakdown > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinC hemId.html > > Other biological effects > http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/Ginseng/GinO th.html > > (two items: serotonergic transmission or dopaminergic mechanisms have > been implicated in ginseng's effects on behavior; Panax notoginseng > extracts, injected iv at concentrations >0.5 g/kg, produced marked > hypotensive response with bradycardia in albino rats. The hypotensive > effect was blocked or reversed by pretreatment with atropine, > propanolol, and a combination of chlorpheniramine and cimetidine. > Similar results were also observed in rabbits. These results were > consistent with the use of Panax notoginseng as an antiangina and > antistasis agent in traditional Chinese medicine (Lei & Chiou, 1986). ) > > another website listed the formula by a percentage breakdown of > ingredients: > > San Qi Pseudoginseng 40% > Herb of e 17% > Shan Yao Dioscorea opposita 13% > Wild Yam Dioscorea nipponica 10% > Geranium thunbergii 7.2% > Lesser galangal root Alpinia officinarum 6% > Ox gall 5% > > Safety issues: Overdosage for a long period of time may produce a > feeling of distention of stomach or abdomen and loss of appetite. > > Comprehensive discussion of use of products with ginseng -- including > notoginseng root/panax -- and also including an interesting rebuttal > (directed to Weil) of potential for estrogenic effects: > > SAFETY ISSUES AFFECTING CHINESE HERBS: The Case of Ginseng > essay by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional > Medicine, Portland, Oregon > December 2000 > > http://www.itmonline.org/arts/ginseng.htm > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hi Carla and Carol- I have taken the little red pill- when I am flooding, changing a super plus every hour, I take it. Then I take 2 capsules, four times a day. My acupuncturist told me it is ok - although until she told me to- I had been cautious of the little red pill because of how every one else has referred to it as only necessary if you are practically dying from a gunshot wound. -Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hi Carla and Carol- I have taken the little red pill- when I am flooding, changing a super plus every hour, I take it. Then I take 2 capsules, four times a day. My acupuncturist told me it is ok - although until she told me to- I had been cautious of the little red pill because of how every one else has referred to it as only necessary if you are practically dying from a gunshot wound. -Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hi Carla and Carol- I have taken the little red pill- when I am flooding, changing a super plus every hour, I take it. Then I take 2 capsules, four times a day. My acupuncturist told me it is ok - although until she told me to- I had been cautious of the little red pill because of how every one else has referred to it as only necessary if you are practically dying from a gunshot wound. -Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Carol- where can I fine the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group? Is it online? Thanks- Ellen ===== Ellen Fullman 927 22 Ave. Seattle WA 98122 cell ellenfullman@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Carol- where can I fine the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group? Is it online? Thanks- Ellen ===== Ellen Fullman 927 22 Ave. Seattle WA 98122 cell ellenfullman@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2002 Report Share Posted March 24, 2002 Carol- where can I fine the HealingFromFibroidsNatuarlly group? Is it online? Thanks- Ellen ===== Ellen Fullman 927 22 Ave. Seattle WA 98122 cell ellenfullman@... __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Just picked this warning up and thought it critical to pass on, for those of you who may be routinely using Yunnan Paiyao for controlling bleeding -- as it's primary ingredient is indeed ginseng. carla ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some Herbs Boost Breast Cancer Risk Herbal Supplements to Fight Menopause Symptoms Can Be Dangerous By Liza Jane Maltin WebMD Medical News March 26, 2002 -- Alternative remedies are more popular than ever, and women are now seeking " natural " solutions for the unpleasant symptoms of menopause. But natural doesn't always mean safe. In fact, researchers have found that certain herbs may increase a woman's risk of breast cancer. Read the rest here: http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1825.50367?z=1728_00000_1000_ln_06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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