Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Scoot your momma's fanny in for some proper thyroid testing.. we've been seeing some links between Alzheimer's symptoms and chronic low grade hypothyroid. Topper () On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:28:04 -0700 (PDT) writes: I love these 'tangential' threads. My mother isdiabetic and had (now untreated .....what adisgrace!)thyroid problems and has begun to developAlzeihmer's. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism andpossible other auto immune problems last December. Myson is Dyslexic and has Behcets Disease. I readsomewhere that all these problems are carried on thesame chromosone. If so, it seems to me, thelaterality of Dyslexic thinking might be common tovictims of all conditions.How many others out there find problems like ADHD,Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Aspergers, Autism etc in their families? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 Scoot your momma's fanny in for some proper thyroid testing.. we've been seeing some links between Alzheimer's symptoms and chronic low grade hypothyroid. Topper () On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:28:04 -0700 (PDT) writes: I love these 'tangential' threads. My mother isdiabetic and had (now untreated .....what adisgrace!)thyroid problems and has begun to developAlzeihmer's. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism andpossible other auto immune problems last December. Myson is Dyslexic and has Behcets Disease. I readsomewhere that all these problems are carried on thesame chromosone. If so, it seems to me, thelaterality of Dyslexic thinking might be common tovictims of all conditions.How many others out there find problems like ADHD,Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Aspergers, Autism etc in their families? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I think you're on to something too ! I want to add some info. too. Long story, but I will get to the insulin part eventually. My parents are paying for me to see their Naturopathic MD. (They were scared for me when I told them that I feel like I'm probably dying because I am so tired and depressed.) She spent an hour on the phone with me, asking questions about my health, events, and mental state from birth to now. I told her EVERYTHING, and unlike other doctors, she really wanted to know AND didn't think I was a hypocondriac AND didn't pass everything off as Thyroid related problems. She was looking for clues. When I told her that I had to eat every 2 hours (or I turn into a zombie) she asked if I have ovarian cysts, which I do but forgot. I have ovarian pains on and off all the time but no one seems to be concerned about it. Anyway, she told me I could have Polycyctic Ovarian Syndrom (PCOS), which could effect my insulin levels and my thyroid. I will get the PCOS tests and insulin tests and see what they show. She said our body systems work as a team, so when a team player is injured the other members pick up the slack and in doing so become taxed. I guess what I'm trying to share is what the rest of you have known for a long while already: We need to be treated as a whole and not just parts. Our body systems work together. Everything effects everything else. I don't know if I'm doing a good enough job sharing my thoughts. I think 's on the right track exploring all the possiblities. Like my 99 year old (AND hypothyroid!) grandpa tells me (mostly because he forgets he told me already about a hundred times) - " Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless it's open! " darringirl > Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from > folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts > from a new perspective. > > It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time > my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of > decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... > > Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view > points and considerations.... > > We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... > > Topper () > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:38 -0500 " " <marin@q...> writes: > There are very intricate mechanisms involved, from person to person, and > with different types of diabetes. I have read and seen, over and over, > that, with Type II Diabetes, insulin resistance is first and foremost, in > a > step fashion. Do I assume wrong that, from person to person, the > cellular > problems for absorption of insulin, is or becomes different with time, > depending on what that person's body is being put through, whether it be > from other disease, stress, lifestyle, etc.? I know that there are > definitely a lot of mysteries that are yet unlocked with Diabetes, yet > it's > so strange that now they've discovered yet another antibody in the mix, > which is probably going to bring ALL these autoimmune diseases together > with > a commonality, the likes of which the medical profession has not known so > far. I said a yr ago that I thought that this was what was going to be > found. Sorry to ramble here, but when I think of all the mysterious > things > about diabetes and thyroid in common, I go off on a tangent! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I think you're on to something too ! I want to add some info. too. Long story, but I will get to the insulin part eventually. My parents are paying for me to see their Naturopathic MD. (They were scared for me when I told them that I feel like I'm probably dying because I am so tired and depressed.) She spent an hour on the phone with me, asking questions about my health, events, and mental state from birth to now. I told her EVERYTHING, and unlike other doctors, she really wanted to know AND didn't think I was a hypocondriac AND didn't pass everything off as Thyroid related problems. She was looking for clues. When I told her that I had to eat every 2 hours (or I turn into a zombie) she asked if I have ovarian cysts, which I do but forgot. I have ovarian pains on and off all the time but no one seems to be concerned about it. Anyway, she told me I could have Polycyctic Ovarian Syndrom (PCOS), which could effect my insulin levels and my thyroid. I will get the PCOS tests and insulin tests and see what they show. She said our body systems work as a team, so when a team player is injured the other members pick up the slack and in doing so become taxed. I guess what I'm trying to share is what the rest of you have known for a long while already: We need to be treated as a whole and not just parts. Our body systems work together. Everything effects everything else. I don't know if I'm doing a good enough job sharing my thoughts. I think 's on the right track exploring all the possiblities. Like my 99 year old (AND hypothyroid!) grandpa tells me (mostly because he forgets he told me already about a hundred times) - " Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless it's open! " darringirl > Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from > folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts > from a new perspective. > > It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time > my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of > decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... > > Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view > points and considerations.... > > We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... > > Topper () > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:38 -0500 " " <marin@q...> writes: > There are very intricate mechanisms involved, from person to person, and > with different types of diabetes. I have read and seen, over and over, > that, with Type II Diabetes, insulin resistance is first and foremost, in > a > step fashion. Do I assume wrong that, from person to person, the > cellular > problems for absorption of insulin, is or becomes different with time, > depending on what that person's body is being put through, whether it be > from other disease, stress, lifestyle, etc.? I know that there are > definitely a lot of mysteries that are yet unlocked with Diabetes, yet > it's > so strange that now they've discovered yet another antibody in the mix, > which is probably going to bring ALL these autoimmune diseases together > with > a commonality, the likes of which the medical profession has not known so > far. I said a yr ago that I thought that this was what was going to be > found. Sorry to ramble here, but when I think of all the mysterious > things > about diabetes and thyroid in common, I go off on a tangent! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I think you're on to something too ! I want to add some info. too. Long story, but I will get to the insulin part eventually. My parents are paying for me to see their Naturopathic MD. (They were scared for me when I told them that I feel like I'm probably dying because I am so tired and depressed.) She spent an hour on the phone with me, asking questions about my health, events, and mental state from birth to now. I told her EVERYTHING, and unlike other doctors, she really wanted to know AND didn't think I was a hypocondriac AND didn't pass everything off as Thyroid related problems. She was looking for clues. When I told her that I had to eat every 2 hours (or I turn into a zombie) she asked if I have ovarian cysts, which I do but forgot. I have ovarian pains on and off all the time but no one seems to be concerned about it. Anyway, she told me I could have Polycyctic Ovarian Syndrom (PCOS), which could effect my insulin levels and my thyroid. I will get the PCOS tests and insulin tests and see what they show. She said our body systems work as a team, so when a team player is injured the other members pick up the slack and in doing so become taxed. I guess what I'm trying to share is what the rest of you have known for a long while already: We need to be treated as a whole and not just parts. Our body systems work together. Everything effects everything else. I don't know if I'm doing a good enough job sharing my thoughts. I think 's on the right track exploring all the possiblities. Like my 99 year old (AND hypothyroid!) grandpa tells me (mostly because he forgets he told me already about a hundred times) - " Your mind is like an umbrella. It doesn't work unless it's open! " darringirl > Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from > folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts > from a new perspective. > > It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time > my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of > decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... > > Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view > points and considerations.... > > We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... > > Topper () > > On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:06:38 -0500 " " <marin@q...> writes: > There are very intricate mechanisms involved, from person to person, and > with different types of diabetes. I have read and seen, over and over, > that, with Type II Diabetes, insulin resistance is first and foremost, in > a > step fashion. Do I assume wrong that, from person to person, the > cellular > problems for absorption of insulin, is or becomes different with time, > depending on what that person's body is being put through, whether it be > from other disease, stress, lifestyle, etc.? I know that there are > definitely a lot of mysteries that are yet unlocked with Diabetes, yet > it's > so strange that now they've discovered yet another antibody in the mix, > which is probably going to bring ALL these autoimmune diseases together > with > a commonality, the likes of which the medical profession has not known so > far. I said a yr ago that I thought that this was what was going to be > found. Sorry to ramble here, but when I think of all the mysterious > things > about diabetes and thyroid in common, I go off on a tangent! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Re: Insulin resistance Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts from a new perspective. It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view points and considerations.... We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Re: Insulin resistance Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts from a new perspective. It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view points and considerations.... We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Re: Insulin resistance Run with your tangent, ... so much of what we discover here is from folks throwing thoughts in the air and others examining those concepts from a new perspective. It was a comment made by one person, as a suggestion, that got me to time my doses so that I could take one at bed time... it was the end of decades of insomnia and a full nights sleep.... Something that totally profound came from an exchange of thoughts, view points and considerations.... We need to do that as much as we can, I think.... Topper () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 That's right, , to one degree or another, undiagnosed as such. Millions of people slip through the cracks. If NOone slipped through, immagine the discoveries that could be made from putting all these people together. And how many people are able to get genetic testing. Not many, compared to the population at large. Re: Insulin resistance > > I love these 'tangential' threads. My mother is > diabetic and had (now untreated .....what a > disgrace!)thyroid problems and has begun to develop > Alzeihmer's. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and > possible other auto immune problems last December. My > son is Dyslexic and has Behcets Disease. I read > somewhere that all these problems are carried on the > same chromosone. If so, it seems to me, the > laterality of Dyslexic thinking might be common to > victims of all conditions. > How many others out there find problems like ADHD, > Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Aspergers, > Autism etc in their families? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 That's right, , to one degree or another, undiagnosed as such. Millions of people slip through the cracks. If NOone slipped through, immagine the discoveries that could be made from putting all these people together. And how many people are able to get genetic testing. Not many, compared to the population at large. Re: Insulin resistance > > I love these 'tangential' threads. My mother is > diabetic and had (now untreated .....what a > disgrace!)thyroid problems and has begun to develop > Alzeihmer's. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and > possible other auto immune problems last December. My > son is Dyslexic and has Behcets Disease. I read > somewhere that all these problems are carried on the > same chromosone. If so, it seems to me, the > laterality of Dyslexic thinking might be common to > victims of all conditions. > How many others out there find problems like ADHD, > Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Aspergers, > Autism etc in their families? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 That's right, , to one degree or another, undiagnosed as such. Millions of people slip through the cracks. If NOone slipped through, immagine the discoveries that could be made from putting all these people together. And how many people are able to get genetic testing. Not many, compared to the population at large. Re: Insulin resistance > > I love these 'tangential' threads. My mother is > diabetic and had (now untreated .....what a > disgrace!)thyroid problems and has begun to develop > Alzeihmer's. I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and > possible other auto immune problems last December. My > son is Dyslexic and has Behcets Disease. I read > somewhere that all these problems are carried on the > same chromosone. If so, it seems to me, the > laterality of Dyslexic thinking might be common to > victims of all conditions. > How many others out there find problems like ADHD, > Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Dyscalculia, Aspergers, > Autism etc in their families? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I've been thinking the exact same thing... I wonder how soon that this discovery will be applied and be helping folks. Topper () On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:44:22 -0500 " " writes: Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I've been thinking the exact same thing... I wonder how soon that this discovery will be applied and be helping folks. Topper () On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:44:22 -0500 " " writes: Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 I've been thinking the exact same thing... I wonder how soon that this discovery will be applied and be helping folks. Topper () On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:44:22 -0500 " " writes: Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Ummm that would be " blithe " . Yeah, I know, brain fog... . blithe > Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Ummm that would be " blithe " . Yeah, I know, brain fog... . blithe > Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2004 Report Share Posted August 29, 2004 Ummm that would be " blithe " . Yeah, I know, brain fog... . blithe > Ever since Bea posted that article about the discovery of the new antibody, I've been excited. These doctors are going to look sooo funny with egg on their face because I have a strange feeling that something is going to connect these autoimmune diseases so strongly and so soon that the world will be unable to argue with it in any fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Ah... Similar to what tipped me off: frequent yeast infections. blithe > > I am the opposite, Blithe - my fasting was the one that was high, the > > post-prandial was always good. I think it is because at night, at > > rest, the glycogen kicks in big time and I don't use it, and during > > the day, I am on the move. > > > > But I really only believed I was diabetic when I saw the ants in the > > bathroom trash can... > > > > > > Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Ah... Similar to what tipped me off: frequent yeast infections. blithe > > I am the opposite, Blithe - my fasting was the one that was high, the > > post-prandial was always good. I think it is because at night, at > > rest, the glycogen kicks in big time and I don't use it, and during > > the day, I am on the move. > > > > But I really only believed I was diabetic when I saw the ants in the > > bathroom trash can... > > > > > > Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Ah... Similar to what tipped me off: frequent yeast infections. blithe > > I am the opposite, Blithe - my fasting was the one that was high, the > > post-prandial was always good. I think it is because at night, at > > rest, the glycogen kicks in big time and I don't use it, and during > > the day, I am on the move. > > > > But I really only believed I was diabetic when I saw the ants in the > > bathroom trash can... > > > > > > Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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