Guest guest Posted December 27, 2000 Report Share Posted December 27, 2000 In a message dated 12/27/2000 2:10:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, pioneer@... writes: << B12 Deficiency in the U.S. According to a recent study, vitamin B12 deficiency may be more widespread in the U.S. population than previously thought. Statistics from the USDA Human Nutrition Center, nearly 40% of the U.S. population may be flirting with marginal vitamin B12 status (plasma levels in the " low normal " range of less than 258 picomoles per liter). While this level is well above the currently accepted deficiency level of 148 pmol/L, some people may still show mild neurological symptoms in the " low normal " range. B12 deficiency can cause a type of anemia marked by fewer but larger red blood cells. It can also cause walking and balance disturbances, a loss of vibration sensation, confusion, and, in advanced cases, dementia. The body requires B12 to make the protective coating surrounding the nerves, so inadequate B12 can expose nerves to damage. The good news is that B12 status is easily improved by eating more fortified cereals and dairy products or from consuming a standard multivitamin daily. Liz, Thanks for this article. I am checking this out because my balance problems are getting worse and it is noticeable that I stumble a little going round corners. My gp says it is because of my ear problems. I know my sinuses are a problem but it could be the B12 contributing too. I walk like an old lady measuring my steps. Bev >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 > causing them until I received some tests results back and one of them showed that he > is deficient in B12 again. Has anyone else had this to happen? We don't see > the doctor until next month and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to give > him B12 orally. I have used oral/sublingual mB12 for probably 3 years now, and it has been great for my kids. It does require folic acid and carnitine for proper absorption, and it does tend to increase yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I JUST STARTED GIVING MY SON MB-12, HOW MUCH OF THE CARNITINE AND FOLIC ACID DO I NEED TO GIVE HIM ALONG WITH THE MB-12? THANKS, SHARON From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: B12 deficiency Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 9:33 AM > causing them until I received some tests results back and one of them showed that he > is deficient in B12 again. Has anyone else had this to happen? We don't see > the doctor until next month and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to give > him B12 orally. I have used oral/sublingual mB12 for probably 3 years now, and it has been great for my kids. It does require folic acid and carnitine for proper absorption, and it does tend to increase yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sorry to bump in, but I've seen no improvement/no positive-negatives, nothing while giving the B12 shots, I have no idea of what to make of this. Had his 29th shot yesterday, these have been given at the right dose, every 3rd day, and at the right angle(have never seen B12 'blisters' or red urine). Am thinking maybe I should'nt give them at all, but after reading a recent post regarding not seeing improvements with their child until 6mths of shots, am now confused as to whether I should continue(ds has been on the shots for arounmd 4 mths.)Â Â Â WHY do parents give folic acid with B12 oral?..should I give folic acid with his shots..will the folic acid make the B12 work better. Thanks for answers in advance, hope ya'll can help. Donna. [ ] Re: B12 deficiency Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 9:33 AM > causing them until I received some tests results back and one of them showed that he > is deficient in B12 again. Has anyone else had this to happen? We don't see > the doctor until next month and I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to give > him B12 orally. I have used oral/sublingual mB12 for probably 3 years now, and it has been great for my kids. It does require folic acid and carnitine for proper absorption, and it does tend to increase yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 > > I JUST STARTED GIVING MY SON MB-12, HOW MUCH OF THE CARNITINE AND FOLIC ACID DO I NEED TO GIVE HIM ALONG WITH THE MB-12? It depends on the child. I have read that most kids do fine with 800-1600mcg folic and 1000mg carnitine [divide the doses per day]. However, as usual, my son needed much higher doses than normal. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 >>WHY do parents give folic acid with B12 oral?..should I give folic acid with his shots..will the folic acid make the B12 work better. At my house, folic acid and carnitine were required for proper absorption of the mB12. I used oral. If I did not give folic/carnitine, the B12 caused major problems. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 sorry to be asking so many questions but do i just divide the folic and carn.? and is that 2 doses a day or divide it more than half the amount twice a day? thanks for your help, sharon From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: B12 deficiency Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 9:19 AM > > I JUST STARTED GIVING MY SON MB-12, HOW MUCH OF THE CARNITINE AND FOLIC ACID DO I NEED TO GIVE HIM ALONG WITH THE MB-12? It depends on the child. I have read that most kids do fine with 800-1600mcg folic and 1000mg carnitine [divide the doses per day]. However, as usual, my son needed much higher doses than normal. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 We give the B12 shots per the Neubrander protocol. The gains increased slowly over time. Even though Neubrander does not recommend giving folic acid with the shots, we added in the activated form of folinic acid, Folapro by Metagenics,( 5MTHF), a half a tablet a day, 400mcg. Sometimes we think that this helps him almost as much as the shots themselves. We believe that the shots definitely work better with the Folapro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2008 Report Share Posted August 23, 2008 > sorry to be asking so many questions but do i just divide the folic and carn.? and is that 2 doses a day or divide it more than half the amount twice a day? I gave folic and carnitine with each dose of mB12. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi everyone! Does anyone here have a B12 deficiency? Turns out this was what was causing me facial numbness and tingling... If you do what were your symptoms, how do you treat it? Right now I am taking oral vitamins but may have to do the injections. I m little surprised my rheumy never tested for this, since I am always anemic, guess it was just assumed to be the anemia of chronic disease. (He's a great doc so I am not complaining...) Thanks as always! beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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