Re: Here's the Official Answer (was Canned Spam in 2006 WAPF Shopping Guide

[Guest guest]

Do you think eating canned sardines is high risk?

,

oops, you got me. I was thinking red--well pink--meat ie. land animals

and vienna sausages an such.

Sardines...well it depends upon in what they are packed. I have cans

set aside for hard times, but rarely eat them in times of plenty.

If you check your 2006 WAPF shopping guide, you will see the canned

seafood only makes the " good " classification. hehe.

B.

[Guest guest]

I think

> bones should basically be considered an independent food group, and

> for most people the difference between canned and fresh seafood can

> mean the difference between consuming significant quantities of bone

> and not doing so. So I suspect that many of the popular cases of

> canned are actually better than many of the popular cases of wild and

> fresh.

~~~At our local HFS, fresh wild salmon is over $10 a lb - making it far

above our budget. (And when there is extra money around I'd much

rather spend it on steak!) However, an approved can of salmon IS in

our budget so we (DH and I) eat a couple of cans a week. And yes, I

feel good about the inclusion of the bones in the canned.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Yeah! Let's petition to get bones added to the food pyramid!

Remember when they used to add ground bones to the hot dogs and

bologna and people were grossed out and got them removed? Not that

hot dogs and bologna were all that good for you, but there are some

butchers who don't use nitrates, etc. that make really good

hotdogs. With all those organs and the fat, that's gotta be a great

food for growing kids.

> > While I'm sure fresh-frozen sardines might be better than canned,

> > do you think that fresh is always better? I mean, the fact that

> > canned sardines and salmon are full of bones is a major benefit

> > that won't be found with most fresh seafood as most people

prepare

> > them. I think bones should basically be considered an

independent

> > food group, and for most people the difference between canned and

> > fresh seafood can mean the difference between consuming

significant

> > quantities of bone and not doing so. So I suspect that many of

the

> > popular cases of canned are actually better than many of the

> > popular cases of wild and fresh.

>

> I'm glad you say this, because canned sardines and kippers and

anchovies are

> one of my major snacks.

>

> Joan Cole

>

[Guest guest]

> While I'm sure fresh-frozen sardines might be better than canned, do

> you think that fresh is always better? I mean, the fact that canned

> sardines and salmon are full of bones is a major benefit that won't be

> found with most fresh seafood as most people prepare them. I think

> bones should basically be considered an independent food group, and

> for most people the difference between canned and fresh seafood can

> mean the difference between consuming significant quantities of bone

> and not doing so. So I suspect that many of the popular cases of

> canned are actually better than many of the popular cases of wild and

> fresh.

Young Master

I think that food prepared with my own hands is always better. I am

not denigrating in any way the nutritional value of bones in canned

fish when I say I myself prefer to eat other foods as long as I can

afford them. I would prefer to preserve my own sardines and eat them

later--bones and all--than commercially prepared canned seafood. It's

a neurosis, to be honest, that I can indulge in as a single woman with

no craving for sardines. If I had a family to provide for and a

budget of which to be mindful, there would be more canned sardines on

the table.

B.

[Guest guest]

>

> -

>

> >Perhaps you are unaware that Spam is a very popular food item with

> >certain populations;

>

> Well, so are Twinkies, if you get right down to it.

,

My comment was in response to someone seemingly not understanding why

*anyone* would prefer Spam over canned salmon, sardines, or whatnot.

I'm attempting to explain the inexplicable: that some people have a

real taste for the stuff and that is why WAPF took the effort to

categorize it in the shopping guide. *Some* people will be very

relieved to know that Spam has no MSG added.

FFS people like you and me and Deanna needn't reference a bloody

shopping guide but many people/members find it helpful to make better

choices when they are accustomed to eating SAD and shopping at regular

grocery stores. Further, sometimes people are

stuck--geographically--and their only option is a 7-11 or the equivalent.

Because Twinkies are a very popular food item in some populations

isn't enough to make them eligible, but you know that.

So maybe WAPF should be more specific but if you compare Spam with

other foods in the " good " category, you'll probably agree that they

all might better be labeled " acceptable in a pinch " . Since there are

only three categories, " best " , " good " , and " avoid " , I think that's

what it does mean.

My dad used to make us Spam when we were kids--he liked the stuff.

We would get a plate with slices of Spam, canned baked beans, canned

spinach (gag) and a slice of Roman Meal bread--dinner was served.

Better than buying a can, why not go see the musical?

http://www.montypythonsspamalot.com/HighBand/SpamOperaHome.html

B.

>

> Maybe there's some virtue -- or relative lack of danger -- to Spam

> that I'm missing, but I think that at most it should've gone into an

> additional category, " Acceptable in a Pinch " .

>

> That said, all this talk has gotten me curious enough that I might

> just buy a tin and eat a bite so I'll know what it actually tastes

> like. I can't even guess how many Spam jokes I've heard over the

> years, including the completely unaccountable routine a couple of my

> friends back in middle school came up with to mock another friend's

> choice in shorts: " Oh no! I've got SPAM on my Jams! " (said in a

> fakey Monty Python man-as-woman accent).

[Guest guest]

I can't even guess how many Spam jokes I've heard over the

> years, including the completely unaccountable routine a couple of my

> friends back in middle school came up with to mock another friend's

> choice in shorts: " Oh no! I've got SPAM on my Jams! " (said in a

> fakey Monty Python man-as-woman accent).

,

Gawd, it's about time someone injected some humor into this spamalot

thread.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

> But quality pork and Spam are two wildly different things.

Yes, your Listgodness. And now if I might have a bit of free reign I

might respond, " No shit, Sherlock. " Not at your highnessness, of

course. Just a general no brainer observation from a Jackie of all

trades kind a gal.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

> My comment was in response to someone seemingly not understanding

why *anyone* would prefer Spam over canned salmon, sardines, or whatnot.

Who would that someone be? Canned fish rocks, spam not! Nutrition

over political correctness!

Deanna

[Guest guest]

> Who would that someone be? Canned fish rocks, spam not! Nutrition

> over political correctness!

http://www.pitt.edu/~blair1/spam-haiku.html

Some Spam haiku to soften your edges like pork jelly.

B.

[Guest guest]

> Some Spam haiku to soften your edges like pork jelly.

> B.

Ah, thanks. But DH says it's salty gross now matter how you prepare

it. And that's the news from Lake Wobegone, where all the women are

strong, all the men are good looking, and all the children are above

average.

Deanna

[Guest guest]

> Some Spam haiku to soften your edges like pork jelly.

> B.

This sounds like Calvin <snort> (from your link of haikus):

Pink tender morsel

Glistening with salty gel

What the hell is it?

Ears, snouts, and innards,

A homogenous mass

Pass another slice

Cube of cold pinkness

Yellow specks of porcine fat

Give me a spork please

Old man seeks doctor

" I eat Spam daily " , he says.

Angioplasty

Highly unnatural

The tortured shape of this " food "

A small pink coffin

Yeehaaaah cowgirl!

Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee