Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 A few years back, the coordinator/director for every farmers market in Massachusetts had an absolutely furious response at me for mentioning the words " raw milk. " It is so strange to see so many people get offended at the mention of raw milk. So basic and pure, how could it have such a negative connotation to so many?! Below are some listings for the word " raw " off the web. The majority of the listings could be interpreted as " raw " being a negative property. There are nice words in other languages for specifically, raw meat. Sashimi. Carpaccio. Beautiful! What if a beautiful word was coined for raw milk? Maybe there already is one? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Merriam-Webster Online Thesaurus Entry Word: raw Function: adjective Text: 1 not cooked <you should wash your hands after handling raw chicken> Synonyms uncooked Related Words unbaked, unheated; rare; underdone Near Antonyms well-done; overdone; baked, boiled, braised, broiled, fried, grilled, heated, roasted, sautéed Antonyms cooked 2 being such as found in nature and not altered by processing or refining <raw sugar is honey-colored because the crystals retain cane juices, minerals, and other impurities that haven't been refined out> -- see CRUDE 1 3 lacking in adult experience or maturity <recruiters like to say the military turns raw youths into responsible men and women> -- see CALLOW 4 marked by wet and windy conditions <the day of the funeral was one of those bleak, blustery, raw winter days that was as gloomy as our spirits> -- see FOUL 1 5 uncomfortably cool <evenings in those mountains, even during the summer, tend to be a little raw> -- see CHILLY 1 6 causing intense discomfort to one's skin <bundle up if you're going sailing, as there's a raw wind out there in the bay> -- see CUTTING 1 Merriam-Webster Online Thesaurus Entry Word: raw material Function: noun Text: the basic elements from which something can be developed <Canada now converts most of its raw materials into manufactured goods such as automobiles and auto parts> -- see MAKING from the University of Notre Dame Latin Dictionary and Grammar Aid raw = rabidus : raging, crazy. rabies : madness, fury, frenzy. rabiose : savagely, furiously. radicitus : by the roots, utterly. rapio rapui ratum : to seize, snatch, carry away. rare : thinly, rarely, uncommonly. rarus : rare, uncommon / far apart / thin, scanty. ratio : reckoning, account / reason, judgment, consideration. ratio : system, manner, method, procedure, manner. from hyperdictionary: Definition: 1.. [n] informal terms for nakedness; " in the raw " ; " in the altogether " ; " in his birthday suit " 2.. [adj] not processed or subjected to analysis; " raw data " ; " the raw cost of production " ; " only the crude vital statistics " 3.. [adj] (used informally) completely unclothed 4.. [adj] not treated with heat to prepare it for eating 5.. [adj] lacking training or experience; " the new men were eager to fight " ; " raw recruits " ; " he was still wet behind the ears when he shipped as a hand on a merchant vessel " 6.. [adj] brutally unfair or harsh; " received raw treatment from his friends " ; " a raw deal " 7.. [adj] inflamed and painful; " his throat was raw " ; " had a sore throat " 8.. [adj] unpleasantly cold and damp; " bleak winds of the North Atlantic " 9.. [adj] having the surface exposed and painful; " a raw wound " 10.. [adj] devoid of elaboration or diminution or concealment; bare and pure; " naked ambition " ; " raw fury " ; " you may kill someone someday with your raw power " 11.. [adj] untempered and unrefined; " raw talent " ; " raw beauty " 12.. [adj] not processed or refined; " raw sewage " * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (The definition we'd prefer for the adjective " organic " is only listed under the link for its " archaic " form: instrumental, fundamental.) (Even " unrefined " might take on a negative connotation by some.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * What power the dictionaries can have . . . Cyndy Gray justdairy@... www.justdairy.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 On 2/5/06, Just Dairy <justdairy@...> wrote: > > A few years back, the coordinator/director for every farmers market in Massachusetts had an absolutely furious response at me for mentioning the words " raw milk. " It is so strange to see so many people get offended at the mention of raw milk. So basic and pure, how could it have such a negative connotation to so many?! > > Below are some listings for the word " raw " off the web. The majority of the listings could be interpreted as " raw " being a negative property. > > There are nice words in other languages for specifically, raw meat. Sashimi. Carpaccio. Beautiful! > > What if a beautiful word was coined for raw milk? Maybe there already is one? [Mike] Well, this is a really interesting topic to me, and my basic answer is that " fresh milk " is just the term you're looking for. A variant is " fresh, unprocessed milk " . The great thing about the word " fresh " is that it's nontechnical (hence nonpretentious) and has very positive connotations. It's also a very accurate description of the milk we're talking about. Actually, on the Raw Dairy group a year or two ago there was a discussion of these terminological aesthetics and I remember making a similar conclusion as far as a nice way of talking about raw milk to uninformed audiences. There was a nice thread I think, so you could hit Onibasu on that. On the matter of how the word " raw " feels to people, well, there's clearly a dramatic range of variation from very positive (suggests " real " , " pure " , etc) to somewhat negative (suggests " deficient " , " unsafe " , etc). So that's really a crapshoot as far the effect on a given person. It's truly sad to hear of that extreme negative reaction you suffered. Comparing to the meat case, we can observe that meat is traditionally eaten both raw and cooked, so it makes sense to have special words for a specific way of preparing meat (e.g. sashimi, carpaccio--which, by the way, don't really mean " raw meat " as a general entity but rather a certain class of recipes for preparing raw meat), whereas in the case of milk there is no tradition for consuming cooked/pasteurized milk; it's a 20th century development, and even in traditional contexts where milk is cooked (Indian yogurt-making, various cheese-making traditions, supposedly traditional kefir and koumiss techniques, etc), milk is probably still conceived of as a basic food in its unprocessed state. In other words, the true term for " raw milk " is " milk " ! Mike SE Pennsylvania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 In other words, the true term for " raw milk " is " milk " ! Mike SE Pennsylvania -------------------------------------------------------------------- And the 'true term' for processed milk is " dead dairy " . Just a phrase I made up to describe this pathetic concoction of the 20th century! Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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