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In a message dated 8/28/2006 9:36:37 AM Central Daylight Time,

illneverbecool@... writes:

> How are you juicing the grapes? Are you using a juicer? I've done

> grape juice in the green star twin-gear two or three times now and it

> is such a chore to get through a case of grapes! Have you any tips

> for me, Craiker?

>

> My idea this year was to buy fresh, unpasteurised pomegranate juice

> and make honey wine with that. But I'd love to do grape, too if it

> were less work.

> B.

>

I think the pomegranate juice will make excellent honey wine. Pomegranate has

some very healthful compounds. I have always believed that wines (ferments)

made of differing compositions, herbal included, could be used

therapeutically. I have no experience or positive proof of this, it just seems

natural to

believe so.

You asked about juicing the grapes. I have no shortcuts or machinery. I

picked five gallons of grapes today in the rain. I hiked up the highway just

less

than a quarter of a mile and finished my grape gathering for the season. The

grapes are now sitting overnite in the kitchen sink still in the plastic bucket,

soaking in a saline solution. In the morn. dw will thoroughly rinse and cull

the mass before putting them in a large enameled pot. They will be simmered

and stomped with a potato masher until the mass is all broken up. The juice will

then be strained thru a regular stainless wire mesh strainer into a

sterilized plastic food grade quality bucket that has a spigot installed near

the

bottom.

Some juice may be pulled off for jelly, etc but I will use about three or

three and half gallons of juice to pure water and sugar to equal five gallons +,

a bit over to compensate for losses from settlements and clearing. Pure

Mustang grape juice and sugar would be a bit of an eye opener. HTH. C R

PS: Never run whole grapes thru a juicer if they are not seedless, the seeds

will taint the taste of the Must. I have no experience with grape seed

extract, so the compost pile get them.

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.... I have always believed that wines (ferments)

> made of differing compositions, herbal included, could be used

> therapeutically. I have no experience or positive proof of this, it

just seems natural to

> believe so.

There's a long tradition--digestifs for one.

.... The

> grapes are now sitting overnite in the kitchen sink still in the

plastic bucket,

> soaking in a saline solution...

Why the saline?

B.

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There is this book, " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers: The Secrets of

Ancient Fermentation " by Harrod Buhner. I haven't read it but

am so intrigued by it that I keep looking at it. I don't know if he

covers wine, sounds like it's pretty much all fermented alcoholic

beverages, from the reviews.

> ... I have always believed that wines (ferments)

> > made of differing compositions, herbal included, could be used

> > therapeutically. I have no experience or positive proof of this, it

> just seems natural to

> > believe so.

>

> There's a long tradition--digestifs for one.

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In a message dated 8/28/2006 10:03:16 PM Central Daylight Time,

illneverbecool@... writes:

> The

> > grapes are now sitting overnite in the kitchen sink still in the

> plastic bucket,

> > soaking in a saline solution...

>

> Why the saline?

>

> B.

, only that I had company come just as I finished picking the grapes

and I could see that it might be 24 hours before I could attend to them. The

salt in the water was just to keep any bacteria down. No special procedure. C R

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--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> There is this book, " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers: The Secrets of

> Ancient Fermentation " by Harrod Buhner. I haven't read it but

> am so intrigued by it that I keep looking at it. I don't know if he

> covers wine, sounds like it's pretty much all fermented alcoholic

> beverages, from the reviews.

Haek,

I've got it out from the library right now; I love this book. I love

the way he writes and the things he says. Anyway, he writes a lot

about meads. You should get the book, I actually thought of you as I

read it.

B.

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OK I will. I swear, curiosity is getting the best of my credit

card! I think I'm one of Amazon's best customers!

> >

> > There is this book, " Sacred and Herbal Healing Beers: The

Secrets of

> > Ancient Fermentation " by Harrod Buhner. I haven't read

it but

> > am so intrigued by it that I keep looking at it. I don't know

if he

> > covers wine, sounds like it's pretty much all fermented

alcoholic

> > beverages, from the reviews.

>

> Haek,

> I've got it out from the library right now; I love this book. I

love

> the way he writes and the things he says. Anyway, he writes a lot

> about meads. You should get the book, I actually thought of you

as I

> read it.

> B.

>

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