RE: Can you educate me please?: LARD

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With a slab of cheese....

At 01:04 PM 2/19/2006, you wrote:

>A slice of sourdough bread with butter and peanut butter . . .

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> Renata writes: But at 1:30 in the afternoon when I suddenly realize I

>haven't eaten lunch and I'm hungry, the fatty things seem to need more

>preparation than a slice of sourdough with marmalade and some carrot sticks.

> - Renate

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I don't think Italians or Middle Easterners or Northern Europeans are going

to " benefit " from eating bread and/or pasta, over lowering their carbs and

eating some animal fat and meat. Just as Asians eating rice will not be

" benefiting " from these agricultural foods. Cargill will be very happy they

are all eating this food. But, I don't think it is a reality that these

foods provide greater health benefits than the truly traditional foods of

animals and low carb veggies. Sorry. Just don't buy it. Don't buy the

blood type diet either. I don't think anyone is " digesting pasta just

fine " .

Dean

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Okay, I have to speak up, now that someone else has disagreed! :-) I'm

agreeing with the disagree-er.

I have read that we Northern Europeans have a harder time digesting grains

than Mediterraneans because grain was domesticated there about 6,000 years

ago (11,000 in the Nile valley and Mesopotamia). So the Mediterraneans

started eating a lot of carbs 4,000 years earlier than the peoples of

Northern Europe. That extra 4,000 years supposedly makes the Italians

digest pasta just fine, whereas a good German girl like me might have some

trouble with the Mediterranean diet. So that difference of only 4,000 years

has some effect on our digestive systems. That's a pretty short time in

terms of evolution. Yeah, I know, we like our bread, but we do eat a great

deal of meat to go with it.

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Then EVERYONE should be at their healthiest with the same diet. And which

one would that be? I have a friend who had years of serious health problems

and she is now reasonably healthy on a vegetarian diet with no milk. She

does eat butter and cheese in moderation, and that is the only fat she gets.

She lets her body tell her what works for her and what doesn't. I on the

other hand was a vegetarian for 15 years. My teeth fell apart, I was

anemic, I developed severe hypoglycemia, to name a few health problems. I

read the book Life Without Bread on a flight to London, got off the plane

and had bacon and eggs (no bread) and never looked back - and I'm healthy

now.

I have another friend who shudders when he looks at my diet (he is very

healthy as well) because I COOK vegetables! He makes green smoothies,

swears the oxalic acid thing is just so much hype, so I tried a glass of it.

If that is what it takes to give me a longer life, I'll pass - pun intended.

And I eat so much meat, he says! (He eats it, cooked, in moderation, no

beef.)

On to this couple I know who, for six months, ate raw meat a la Aajonus

Vanderplanitz. They still eat it at least once a day, but have added some

cooked food to their diet now. They are in their 60s, the picture of

health, and they said that they had many health problems that went away when

they started eating raw beef, chicken, fish, organ meat - you name it.

Every one of these people has " proof " that they have THE answer to good

health - statistics, studies, expert opinion and their own well-being. In

the end, if we listen, our bodies will tell us what to do. We ARE

different, and it does make a difference what our genetic heritage is. The

Hunzas are the longest lived people on the face of the earth. Maybe we

should all eat the way they do? It wouldn't be in line with ANY of the

diets I described above.

The better lesson to learn from the Hunzas is that they live in unpolluted

air, their lives are stress-free, they drink mineral rich glacial water, and

they get a lot of physical exercise. Methinks that those characteristics

have more to do with good health than diet.

Here is what my body is telling me - get off the computer, dust off my

exercise equipment, and put my butt in gear. ;-)

DEAN WRITES: I don't think Italians or Middle Easterners or Northern

Europeans are going

to " benefit " from eating bread and/or pasta, over lowering their carbs and

eating some animal fat and meat. Just as Asians eating rice will not be

" benefiting " from these agricultural foods. Cargill will be very happy they

are all eating this food. But, I don't think it is a reality that these

foods provide greater health benefits than the truly traditional foods of

animals and low carb veggies. Sorry. Just don't buy it. Don't buy the

blood type diet either. I don't think anyone is " digesting pasta just

fine " .

Dean

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I think some of us have a lot of trouble with fat because we eat too

much food period. In our carb days, we needed a ton of calories to get

the nutrition our cells craved. Now that we've switced, our stomachs

are saying, hey I'm not full yet - I'm used to a heck of a lot more.

In the old days you saw a lot of slim girls who ate all the fats. They

just didn't pile it on. Our digestive systems were not meant to push so

much food through either so we waist a lot of enzymes on digestion that

could be used in healing and gobbling up cancer etc.

I fail miserably at eating a lot less but I'm not giving up. I remember

in my anorexic days, feeling slightly hungry didn't bother me. I know

that once under a certain weight, you just don't crave so much food and

hunger is ok. I don't plan on being too thin again but I do want to eat

a lot less. Felt so much better.

On Feb 19, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Idol wrote:

> Renata-

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>> I tried the high fat diet but couldn't keep it up.

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I do agree with what you are saying. Thanks for saying it. I apologize if

my post came across as saying everyone is the same, and we all need the same

things for health. It IS highly individualized, and there are lots of

different answers with diet AND exercise. I don't think that we can

generalize and say " all Italians can eat pasta just fine " ... that is all I

was trying to get across. Sorry if it came off as something else, which it

probably did! Now, I need to go get on my treadmill!

Dean

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Here is what my body is telling me - get off the computer, dust off my

exercise equipment, and put my butt in gear. ;-)

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LOL - I did do a half hour of Pilates after writing that post.

And my apologies if my original post came off as saying " all Italians . . . "

It was simply a generalization, and of course there are Mediterraneans who

most definitely cannot eat the Mediterranean diet, my sister-in-law being a

prime example.

Hope the treadmill was a great deal of fun . ..

I do agree with what you are saying. Thanks for saying it. I apologize if

my post came across as saying everyone is the same, and we all need the same

things for health. It IS highly individualized, and there are lots of

different answers with diet AND exercise. I don't think that we can

generalize and say " all Italians can eat pasta just fine " ... that is all I

was trying to get across. Sorry if it came off as something else, which it

probably did! Now, I need to go get on my treadmill!

Dean

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There is a way to determine if one is deficient in iodine. Buy some iodine(not

the clear stuff) from a pharmacy. Place a small dab on your skin(aboit 1 inch

square) and see how many hours it lasts.Should stay visible for 24 hours.

Phil

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Yeah, I know that if you get enough calcium, magnesium, and iodine

it's not as risky as they protect against fluoride damage, but it's

hard to tell if you're getting enough iodine. Synthroid, a thyroid

replacement medication, is one of the top ten sellers in the US &

some say it's because of the damage to the thyroid from fluoride,

the thyroid takes in fluoride when iodine is lacking but can't use

it.

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“If that is what it takes to give me a longer life, I'll pass - pun

intended.” ---

LOL HEY, forgive my ignorance. What do Hunzas eat?? linda

“Hunzas are the longest lived people on the face of the earth.”

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> There is a way to determine if one is deficient in iodine. Buy some

iodine(not the clear stuff) from a pharmacy. Place a small dab on your

skin(aboit 1 inch square) and see how many hours it lasts.Should stay

visible for 24 hours.

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> Phil

> [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Can you educate me please?: LARD

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> Yeah, I know that if you get enough calcium, magnesium, and iodine

> it's not as risky as they protect against fluoride damage, but it's

> hard to tell if you're getting enough iodine. Synthroid, a thyroid

> replacement medication, is one of the top ten sellers in the US &

> some say it's because of the damage to the thyroid from fluoride,

> the thyroid takes in fluoride when iodine is lacking but can't use

> it.

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