Re: Water Filter Questions...Can someone please help me out?

February 18, 2006

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http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_Filter_p/uct.\

htm

> ...Is this filter ok? I would hate to spend $225 for something that

> really isn't helping me out.

,

I thought flouride was so small a particle only reverse osmosis or

distillation could remove it. Huh. If it really works, I'll buy this

filter myself.

I buy RO water from " The Water Store " for 35-cents/gallon in

five-gallon glass bottles. Do you have little water stores like that

in strip malls around town?

B.

February 18, 2006

> I thought flouride was so small a particle only reverse osmosis or

> distillation could remove it. Huh. If it really works, I'll buy this

> filter myself.

,

It appears fluoride can be reduced to < 1ppm in water by use of an

activated alumina filter. I did not know that.

Freaks me out reducing fuoride by filtering through aluminum. ruuh?

B.

February 18, 2006

> > I thought flouride was so small a particle only reverse osmosis or

> > distillation could remove it. Huh. If it really works, I'll buy this

> > filter myself.

>

> ,

> It appears fluoride can be reduced to < 1ppm in water by use of an

> activated alumina filter. I did not know that.

>

> Freaks me out reducing fuoride by filtering through aluminum. ruuh?

> B.

>

I know that flouride is produced by the aluminum industry so that may

have something to do with it.

I also don't think there are any water stores around here that sell RO

water, let alone in glass bottles. I will keep my eye open

though...but I think this filter might be my best bet for now.

Arg...reading up on this stuff makes me feel like I am living in the

twilight zone...what a crazy world this is.

-

February 18, 2006

So the one you showed says it can come with a fluoride removal cartidge,

with “activated alumina.” Hmmm, aluminum?? I don’t know, my chemistry is

weak. In past reading it seemed that only distillation or near-distillation

(is that the reverse-osmosis?) would remove fluoride, and then all the good

minerals are removed as well. Fluoridatioin is coming to us soon so I try to

watch and keep up but am far from up on all of it. I’ve been figuring that

someone would come up with good alternatives. Hopefully what you are looking

at is one. You can ask for a free report of the contents of your local

water, and report of what’s in your bottled and these filtration people

should provide you with some kind of report as well. These are usually

charted compared to government standards, whatever they’re worth.That’s a

lot of work though.

I don’t know how much we depend nutritionally on all the tiny amounts of

micronutient minerals in water. I rather assume that they’d be in vegetables

grown in the water too --- the good again with the bad --- and they should

also be in blood/broth.

True spring water should smell a little algea-ish. It’s live water, not dead

water. The longer it sits in the bottles (before or after you get it) the

more it will grow and favor toward distasteful growths. Different bottled

water companies have different kinds of filtration processes. On the other

hand, in the lab where I work, we found mold growing in the cap of distilled

water we use for experiments. That was upsetting.

Are there no water companies that are using good plastics yet? I’m eager to

know what more you learn and what others know.

As an aside, I called Imagine foods a month back to see how much fluoride is

in their products like Rice Dream. Here’s their reply: “The water used in

Rice Dream or Soy Dream beverages is filtered by various methods that

include Reverse Osmosis and FDA approved filters.” I understand this to

mean no fluoride. linda

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My main aim is to remove flouride, but I want anything else

detrimental out as well...

bad #7 plastic and also they have been smelling very moldy on the

inside ...

I was thinking about this one

HYPERLINK

" http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_Filter_p

/uct.htm " http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_

Filter_p/uct.htm

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February 18, 2006

> How strong are those glass bottles? Would you recommend them for

someone who

> manages to break at least one blender jar a year?

,

The bottles are very strong (about 1 cm thick) but they are also very

heavy when filled with water and are awkward to maneuver--much more so

than any blender jar. Do you intend to carry yourself or is there an

able-bodied man around? I carry them myself but it tends to inspire

awe in onlookers. When I had a back spasm last fall, I couldn't carry

one for several weeks.

I've only ever broken a single five-gallon glass bottle--when I

tripped on the sidewalk due to stupid shoes--OTOH I've only ever

dropped a single one, hehe. One tends to become rather focused when

lugging it about. You could use a dolly--in the absence of a man--but

then you'd need to pick the bottle up off the ground, which is even

harder. No offense intended in reference to engaging AB men for heavy

chores.

B.

February 18, 2006

We have a reverse osmosis filter, serviced by Crystal Springs, which

I believe is also in Pittsburgh (I'm near Philly). REverse osmosis

is the only kind that gets fluoride out from what I hear. If you

use it alot you don't really need to get it serviced. Our last time

was about 4 years ago. It fits under the kitchen sink and has a

separate tap for filtered water. If you want to go super healthy

you can buy Concentrace to add minerals back in - it's desalinated

sea water that's been concentrated, tho it does have fluoride in it.

--- In , " gdawson6 " <gdawson6@...>

wrote:

>

> I need a water filter, asap.

>

> My main aim is to remove flouride, but I want anything else

> detrimental out as well. I live in the city of Pittsburgh and I

guess

> the water isn't that bad but I really need to get flouride free

water

> (I do have flourosis spots on my teeth).

>

> I have been buying big 5 gallon spring waters (Tyler Mountain

Brand)

> from my local coop for $4.50 a gallon to avoid flouride, but they

are

> the bad #7 plastic and also they have been smelling very moldy on

the

> inside (Most people wouldn't even smell this cause they just pop

it in

> a dispenser, but I pour it by hand into a 1 gallon jug and can

always

> smell when something is wierd).

>

> I was thinking about this one

>

http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_Fi

lter_p/uct.htm

>

> Its a 3 piece undercounter filter, I'm not entirely sure on

whether to

> get the ceramic or the nitrate removal filter.

>

> Is this filter ok? I would hate to spend $225 for something that

> really isn't helping me out.

>

> Those *@$****$ that decided to put silicoflourides in the water

system

> really need a swift kick in the crotch, and to fork over some cash

to

> compensate me for this.

>

> Any advice is greatly appreciated.

>

> -

>

February 18, 2006

Fluoride mixed with aluminum to make a compound that's pretty toxic

and implicated in Alzheimers, I don't know about that. Also, the

safe upper limit for fluoride is supposed to be only 1.2 ppm, so < 1

ppm may not be getting that much out.

>

> > I thought flouride was so small a particle only reverse osmosis

or

> > distillation could remove it. Huh. If it really works, I'll

buy this

> > filter myself.

>

> ,

> It appears fluoride can be reduced to < 1ppm in water by use of

an

> activated alumina filter. I did not know that.

>

> Freaks me out reducing fuoride by filtering through aluminum.

ruuh?

> B.

>

February 19, 2006

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> Fluoride mixed with aluminum to make a compound that's pretty toxic

> and implicated in Alzheimers, I don't know about that. Also, the

> safe upper limit for fluoride is supposed to be only 1.2 ppm, so < 1

> ppm may not be getting that much out.

Ya, looks like I'm going to have to invest in a reverse osmosis system

if I want clean water.

Thanks for your input everyone.

-

February 19, 2006

-

>Its a 3 piece undercounter filter, I'm not entirely sure on whether to

>get the ceramic or the nitrate removal filter.

Tough call all around. I have one of those three-piecers too. The

Doulton candle ceramic prefilter removes an *astonishing* amount of

crud which might otherwise clog up the later stages of the filter

much more rapidly. I also have GAC, KDF, and a fluoride removal

stage, though I'm worried about the aluminum in the fluoride

filter. What's best? Who knows.

-

February 19, 2006

Only problem with water fluoridation is that it causes cavities: HYPERLINK

" http://www.foodconsumer.org/777/8/Fluoride_linked_to_dental_cavities.shtml "

http://www.foodconsumer.org/777/8/Fluoride_linked_to_dental_cavities.shtml

(and please GET MY SARCASM and don’t write back about other fluoride dangers

or ...) linda

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February 19, 2006

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> We have a reverse osmosis filter...If you want to go super healthy

> you can buy Concentrace to add minerals back in - it's desalinated

> sea water that's been concentrated, tho it does have fluoride in it.

Couldn't you just add a little good-quality sea salt to the water to

get back the lost minerals?

- Ann

February 21, 2006

Here's the filter I bought.It'spricey but last along time and the water tastes

great and is healthy.---http://www.wellnessfilter.com

Phil

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From: gdawson6

Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:01 AM

Subject: Water Filter Questions...Can someone please help me out?

I need a water filter, asap.

My main aim is to remove flouride, but I want anything else

detrimental out as well. I live in the city of Pittsburgh and I guess

the water isn't that bad but I really need to get flouride free water

(I do have flourosis spots on my teeth).

I have been buying big 5 gallon spring waters (Tyler Mountain Brand)

from my local coop for $4.50 a gallon to avoid flouride, but they are

the bad #7 plastic and also they have been smelling very moldy on the

inside (Most people wouldn't even smell this cause they just pop it in

a dispenser, but I pour it by hand into a 1 gallon jug and can always

smell when something is wierd).

I was thinking about this one

http://www.crystalclearsupply.com/Custom_Triple_Undercounter_Water_Filter_p/uct.\

htm

Its a 3 piece undercounter filter, I'm not entirely sure on whether to

get the ceramic or the nitrate removal filter.

Is this filter ok? I would hate to spend $225 for something that

really isn't helping me out.

Those *@$****$ that decided to put silicoflourides in the water system

really need a swift kick in the crotch, and to fork over some cash to

compensate me for this.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

-

February 21, 2006

>

> Here's the filter I bought.It'spricey but last along time and the

water tastes great and is healthy.---http://www.wellnessfilter.com

>

> Phil

That is a nice looking filter, but doesn't seem to remove flouride

which is my main concern because my water is flouridated...and I show

signs of flourosis.

-

February 22, 2006

The website has changed saince I bought mine years ago but it used to mention

something about flouride;CaFl vs NaFl but I can't recall. I do remember the site

stating that Ca flouride is a naturally ouccrring compound but Na flouride is