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On 2/7/06, Lynn wrote:

>

> I went through some of the old messages on this and now have

> questions...

> do I have this right?

>

> -the best form of Ca is MCHC

> -take HCl withOUT betaine with calcium supplements unless eating some

> protien with it (then use a HCl with betaine)

>

> SO....does anyone know a source of MCHC without Mg?

> And what again is good source of HCl without betaine and one with

> betaine?

> How much HCl is usually taken?

>

> Thanks .....and sorry for asking some of you to repeat yourselves once

> again to me.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

I buy the NOW MCHC from www.vitaglo.com. If you spend $50 the shipping is

free.

http://www.vitaglo.com/1253.html

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Lynn-

>-the best form of Ca is MCHC

>-take HCl withOUT betaine with calcium supplements unless eating some

>protien with it (then use a HCl with betaine)

Not betaine, pepsin. The most common form of supplemental HCl is

betaine HCl. Most HCl supplements have pepsin added, which is

necessary if you're taking calcium with meals. If you have some

reason for taking calcium on an empty stomach, then go ahead and take

a pepsin-free HCl, but you need enough D in your

diet/system/supplements to absorb the calcium in either event, even

if you produce or supplement with enough HCl.

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> Not betaine, pepsin. The most common form of supplemental HCl is

> betaine HCl. Most HCl supplements have pepsin added, which is

> necessary if you're taking calcium with meals. If you have some

> reason for taking calcium on an empty stomach, then go ahead and take

> a pepsin-free HCl, but you need enough D in your

> diet/system/supplements to absorb the calcium in either event, even

> if you produce or supplement with enough HCl.

>

------> Oh you're right mine does have pepsin and betaine in it. So

it's not a problem as I take my Ca with meals.

On the vit D do you mean you need it with the Ca supplement or just

enough D in your system. I take all my CLO in the AM but split my Ca

am and pm.

Thank so much!

Lynn

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Hi, ,

Excuse my ignorance... but could you please tell me what " MCHC " is? And...

" HCl " ? And... " betaine " ?

Lynn-

>-the best form of Ca is MCHC

>-take HCl withOUT betaine with calcium supplements unless eating some

>protien with it (then use a HCl with betaine)

Not betaine, pepsin. The most common form of supplemental HCl is

betaine HCl. Most HCl supplements have pepsin added, which is

necessary if you're taking calcium with meals. If you have some

reason for taking calcium on an empty stomach, then go ahead and take

a pepsin-free HCl, but you need enough D in your

diet/system/supplements to absorb the calcium in either event, even

if you produce or supplement with enough HCl.

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Can anyone enlighten me as to why you take calcium supplements?

CLO (Cod Liver Oil) is something I take every morning. But, what is the

purpose of taking calcium supps?

Also... what is the best CLO I can get, and from what web site?

Thanks a mil,

Dean

> Not betaine, pepsin. The most common form of supplemental HCl is

> betaine HCl. Most HCl supplements have pepsin added, which is

> necessary if you're taking calcium with meals. If you have some

> reason for taking calcium on an empty stomach, then go ahead and take

> a pepsin-free HCl, but you need enough D in your

> diet/system/supplements to absorb the calcium in either event, even

> if you produce or supplement with enough HCl.

>

------> Oh you're right mine does have pepsin and betaine in it. So

it's not a problem as I take my Ca with meals.

On the vit D do you mean you need it with the Ca supplement or just

enough D in your system. I take all my CLO in the AM but split my Ca

am and pm.

Thank so much!

Lynn

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Lynn-

>On the vit D do you mean you need it with the Ca supplement or just

>enough D in your system. I take all my CLO in the AM but split my Ca

>am and pm.

That's a good question. My guess is that the answer is that you just

need enough D in your system, since the primary means of D

acquisition we've evolved is exposure to sunlight. Also, adequate D

actually causes intestinal cells to become capable of transporting

calcium, so there's at least one mechanism by which D affects calcium

absorption without being present for the absorption. OTOH, I have

read on occasion that D is required to be present with calcium for

proper absorption, but I don't recall any research citations, and

it's not something I've actually looked into in depth myself.

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